From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 1 06:09:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11869; Sat, 1 Jul 95 06:09:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18386; Sat, 1 Jul 95 06:04:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18380; Sat, 1 Jul 95 06:04:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sS2DT-00038OC; Sat, 1 Jul 95 06:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: afr@aifbalpha (Andreas Frick) Subject: netscape and pine mailcaps file Date: 1 Jul 1995 12:00:56 GMT Message-Id: <3t3ddo$k60@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: hello everyone! Just switched from elm to pine because of its mime capabilities I encountered a problem with netscape. I configured netscape to use the pine mailcaps file but netscape geves me the following error message: Ignoring unsupported format code in mailcap file: %{ and this five times. Has anyone a solution? Best regards Andreas -- Andreas Frick | University of Karlsruhe Research Assistant | AIFB E-mail: afr@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de | D-76128 Karlsruhe Phone: ++49-721-608-4751 | Germany From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 1 06:41:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12261; Sat, 1 Jul 95 06:41:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24553; Sat, 1 Jul 95 06:36:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24547; Sat, 1 Jul 95 06:36:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sS2YI-00038OC; Sat, 1 Jul 95 06:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 3srf@qlink.queensu.ca (Steve Frampton) Subject: Question in Pine. Date: Sat, 01 Jul 1995 04:54:49 GMT Message-Id: <3t2kfu$k72@knot.queensu.ca> Status: O X-Status: Hello: I am posting this message on behalf of a friend. Please reply directly to him at s832816@aix2.uottawa.ca (the default if you "reply" to this message). He was wondering if there was any way to request receipt notification and/or read notification when sending a mail message using Pine. I have looked on my Pine but wasn't able to figure out how to do so (it doesn't seem to be in the rich headers). Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. --< MAKE MONEY FAST!!! Contact Dave Rhodes for details. >-- Steve Frampton E-mail: <3srf@qlink.queensu.ca> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 1 09:10:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14615; Sat, 1 Jul 95 09:10:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20525; Sat, 1 Jul 95 09:05:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20519; Sat, 1 Jul 95 09:05:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sS4z0-00038TC; Sat, 1 Jul 95 09:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfg@nexus.interealm.com (Doug Johnson) Subject: Re: How to resume a stopped pine process? Date: 1 Jul 1995 15:56:21 GMT Message-Id: <3t3r75$mki@nexus.interealm.com> References: <3t0sqa$rmt@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Status: O X-Status: James Poulakos (poulj000@orville.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE) wrote: % I must have accidentally typed control Z or control S. My pine program is % "stopped," according to the output of the ps command in UNIX, but I was % in the middle of a huge letter! % When I restart pine, I get a new process that is readonly. How can I resume % or restart the old process and get my letter back on the screen? I can't % find this in the docs or the newsgroup.... Don't you hate when that happens? The first time that happened to me I had to kill the process. I have since figured out how to get back in. When you type ctrl-Z it prints a message telling you how to get back in. Stopped. Type 'fg' to restart PINE. Try it and see if it works for you Later, Doug sfg@nexus.interealm.com -- WHICH WAY DID THEY GO? WHAT WERE THEY DOING? HOW MANY OF THEM WERE THERE? I NEED TO FIND THEM, I'M THEIR LEADER! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 1 13:49:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19638; Sat, 1 Jul 95 13:49:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28709; Sat, 1 Jul 95 13:43:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28703; Sat, 1 Jul 95 13:43:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sS9ID-00038QC; Sat, 1 Jul 95 13:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: IMAP and Timeout Date: 1 Jul 1995 20:25:34 GMT Message-Id: <3t4avu$q7f@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Is there an Timeout interval set for IMAP? If you are trying to retrieve mail from another system via IMAP, and if the system is either down or network not responding then you are hosed. Pine will keep on trying to make an IMAP connection and goes into an endless loop. Shouldn't 1 min. or so be set as Timeout period for this? __ ||| ___MMM___ ||| (o o) (0-0) (o o) ---------oOO--\ /--OOo-----oOO--(_)--OOo-----ooO--\ /--Ooo-------- N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support. Mama always told me "Speak for yourself Son, the World will listen" =================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 1 18:56:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24020; Sat, 1 Jul 95 18:56:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01621; Sat, 1 Jul 95 18:51:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01615; Sat, 1 Jul 95 18:51:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSE6d-00038QC; Sat, 1 Jul 95 18:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cummings@stingray.net (Matthew Cummings) Subject: Re: Howto remove quotes from username Date: 29 Jun 1995 22:38:11 -0000 Message-Id: <3sva0j$9bf@stingray.net> References: <3sqd8q$s1@stingray.net> Status: O X-Status: H. Cheung (cheung@homer.u.washington.edu) wrote: : Well, seems like whenever you have a non-letter character, PINE will put : the whole thing in quotes, and that's why you got the quotes ... Yup, that's it all right, thanks for the advice!!! -- Internet: cummings@stingray.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 1 19:10:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24253; Sat, 1 Jul 95 19:10:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28001; Sat, 1 Jul 95 19:06:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27995; Sat, 1 Jul 95 19:06:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSEOE-00038QC; Sat, 1 Jul 95 19:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: job@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE (Jockel Both) Subject: automatic bouncing with pine? Date: 22 Jun 1995 09:50:15 GMT Message-Id: <3sbecn$dcv@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Status: O X-Status: Hello, is there anybody who knows about the possibility of automatic mail bouncing, may be triggered by a special dot-file. an example should explain what I mean: if someone is on vacation and leaves his machine running, the mailer should be able to send the mails back to the sender with a short reply why the mail was sent back. I know that this is possible on sgi's, but I don't know how to enable this behaviour. So while I'm writing, I am not very shure, if this question belongs realy into the pine group. But perhaps somebody of you know an answer. thanks btw: I'm working on a Linux box... -- Jockel Both email: Jockel.Both@linpc9.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 1 20:33:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25434; Sat, 1 Jul 95 20:33:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02551; Sat, 1 Jul 95 20:29:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02545; Sat, 1 Jul 95 20:29:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSFbg-00038UC; Sat, 1 Jul 95 20:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shade@neato.org (Shane DeRidder) Subject: Re: Anonymous/Name changes Date: 1 Jul 1995 22:21:55 -0500 Message-Id: References: <3ss90j$k4u@nntp.interaccess.com> Status: O X-Status: On 28 Jun 1995, movable articles wrote: # John Marken (jmarken@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca) wrote: # : How would you change your name that is shown in the newsgroups. Do you do # : it through Pine? # # I asked the same question of my server, InterAccess in Illinois, and was # told that they had to do it. It took them less than ten minutes and I # was up and running with a new name. Some Windows based programs have # their own profile files so you still have to make changes in them, if you # use any. You can do it in your .pinerc by changing the personal-name= field to whatever name you wish to use. Shane- btw, i'm a former Interaccess user, and have used it there as well...they don't have to do a thing. -- .---. . \___ |-. ,-. ,-. ,-. Shane DeRidder - shade@neato.org \ | | ,-| | | |-' Undernet IRC #TheCafe - http://neato.org/~connie/ `---' ' ' `-^ ' ' `-' Coming Soon! - NeatoMUSH - Mail me for details.. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 1 21:18:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26110; Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:18:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29510; Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:14:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29504; Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:14:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSGLg-00038UC; Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Anonymous/Name changes Date: 2 Jul 1995 04:05:45 GMT Message-Id: <3t55up$rt@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3ss90j$k4u@nntp.interaccess.com> Status: O X-Status: shade@neato.org (Shane DeRidder) writes: >You can do it in your .pinerc by changing the personal-name= field to >whatever name you wish to use. On many systems, you can change it by using the `chfn' command. This will change your full name in /etc/passwd, in your finger info, and in lots of apps, including Pine. -nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 1 21:29:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26308; Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:29:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03108; Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:25:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03102; Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:25:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSGUL-00038UC; Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Guy Schlosser Subject: pcpine for DOS Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 00:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I'm having a major problem. I'm trying to install PcPine version 3.91 for DOS and with a SLIP connection to an internet provider which is called Cris (concentric research information service). The problem exists when I go to specify my inbox path. Cris uses a pop3 mail server, so I specify my path like this: {pop3.cris.com}inbox. When I do this, the system comes back and says Host not found. I know the domain name server is specified and works properly, because I have no problem with any of my other slip programs. At the end of this post, I will include the text in my wattcp.cfg file so whoever reads this can confirm that I'm set up properly. Is there a difference between a pop3 and imap server? If so, what do I need to do to set up pine since I don't know the imap address or if we have one for that matter? Anyone's help would be welcome. Thanks in advance Guy P.S. Here's the text of my wattcp.cfg file. my_ip=192.0.2.1 gateway=199.3.12.1 netmask=255.255.255.0 nameserver=199.3.12.2 nameserver=199.3.12.3 domainslist="cris.com" Jackie's in the elevator Lingerie second floor, she said can I see you later, and love ya just a little more From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 2 07:47:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07014; Sun, 2 Jul 95 07:47:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07261; Sun, 2 Jul 95 07:42:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07255; Sun, 2 Jul 95 07:42:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSQ7W-00038ZC; Sun, 2 Jul 95 07:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: How to resume a stopped pine process? Date: 2 Jul 1995 09:35:15 -0500 Message-Id: <9507021445.AA07167@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Paul O Bartlett write: |> On 30 Jun 1995, James Poulakos wrote: |> > I must have accidentally typed control Z or control S. My pine program is |> > "stopped," according to the output of the ps command in UNIX, but I was |> > in the middle of a huge letter! |> > |> From the prompt, type "fg" (no quotation marks) to put the stopped |> process, in this case Pine, back in the "foreground." I actually use |> this feeature frequently and deliberately when I want to exit momentarily If you can't do the above (as it happens to me because I run pine in a separate window with no shell in it), or anyhow, you can do the following from another window : kill -CONT pinepid where you get pinepid from ps. This sends a "continue" signal and is equivalent to the "fg" command (also is not confused by other jobs running if any) -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 2 10:18:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09489; Sun, 2 Jul 95 10:18:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10341; Sun, 2 Jul 95 10:12:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10335; Sun, 2 Jul 95 10:12:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSSTe-00038aC; Sun, 2 Jul 95 10:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roger Dietz Subject: PGP with Pine? Date: 2 Jul 1995 17:01:41 GMT Message-Id: <3t6jdl$i04@hustle.rahul.net> Status: O X-Status: Does anyone know of a way to add PGP as a feature to Pine so you don't have to edit your email off line then reading them into Pine? I looked through the pinerc file and the on-line docs and didn't find any help. -- ******************************************************************** * Necessity is the excuse for every infringement of human freedom. * * It is the argument of the TYRANT, and the creed of the slave. * * * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 2 10:49:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09957; Sun, 2 Jul 95 10:49:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10687; Sun, 2 Jul 95 10:45:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rorqual.cc.metu.edu.tr by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10678; Sun, 2 Jul 95 10:45:36 -0700 Received: by rorqual.cc.metu.edu.tr (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA91145; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 20:45:09 +0400 Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 20:45:09 +0400 (MEDT) From: pinar@rorqual.cc.metu.edu.tr To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: rorqual.cc.metu.edu.tr.pinar@ Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: hello! I am a medical doctor from turkey and looking for someone who may help me to understand how to reach the medline (medical network) of Washington University or any other one via internet system From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 2 16:03:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14729; Sun, 2 Jul 95 16:03:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13141; Sun, 2 Jul 95 15:58:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13135; Sun, 2 Jul 95 15:58:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSXlG-00038WC; Sun, 2 Jul 95 15:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: E-mail client dos and don'ts Date: 2 Jul 1995 22:37:28 GMT Message-Id: <3t7738$jrj@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3suogl$mag@newstand.syr.edu> Status: O X-Status: jmwobus@spider.syr.edu (John M. Wobus) writes: >I've decided to try building a little matrix showing which of the >well-known e-mail packages support which Internet protocols. I think >posting such a matrix around the net every once and a while would be >fun. Any info would be appreciated. This is a great idea. I agree with the poster who suggested that you include other protocols such as IMSP, X.500, Kerberos, and NNTP. Here's some info about PC Pine for DOS, Windows, and Unix. I'm also sending this to comp.mail.pine so folks over there can add other Pine info. It would be great if you put this on the net somewhere (http or ftp) so I can add it to my Web pages. >----------------------------------------------------------------- >Matrix of Popular Mail Systems w/ Internet-oriented features > > > POP2 POP3 IMAP2 IMAP4 MIME >------------------------------------------------------------------ PC Pine for DOS no no yes not yet yes PC Pine for Windows no no yes not yet yes Unix Pine no no yes not yet yes Does anyone know if Pine has plans to support POP in the future? Thanks, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 2 16:12:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14877; Sun, 2 Jul 95 16:12:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13272; Sun, 2 Jul 95 16:07:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from quord.agric.NSW.GOV.AU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13262; Sun, 2 Jul 95 16:07:32 -0700 Received: from wagsun.agnet (wagsun.agric.NSW.GOV.AU) by quord.agric.nsw.gov.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11347; Mon, 3 Jul 95 09:08:35 EST Received: by wagsun.agnet (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25366; Mon, 3 Jul 95 09:06:55 EST Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 09:06:55 +1000 (EST) From: David Luckett X-Sender: lucketd@wagsun To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <9506280343.AA12624@shivams.cac.washington.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: subscribe pine-info David Luckett From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 2 16:34:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15296; Sun, 2 Jul 95 16:34:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13981; Sun, 2 Jul 95 16:30:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13975; Sun, 2 Jul 95 16:30:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSYPn-00038XC; Sun, 2 Jul 95 16:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: neutrino@annex.com (DANIEL PRINCE) Subject: How do I stop Pine from justifing ASCII uploads? Date: 2 Jul 1995 03:03:50 GMT Message-Id: <3t52am$jp0@news.annex.com> Status: O X-Status: I like to compose some messages ofline and then do an ASCII upload of them. When I do this in Pine (and Pico) it justifies all my paragraphs together. Is there any way I can stop it from doing this? It takes a lot of time to go in and separate my paragraphs and it shouldn't be necessary. Also is there a way to tell Pine that the delete key is not the same as the backspace key. In all my other programs the delete key deletes the character under the cursor. In Pine (and Pico) it does the same thing as the backspace key and I keep deleting the wrong character. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 2 18:47:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17283; Sun, 2 Jul 95 18:47:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15106; Sun, 2 Jul 95 18:41:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15100; Sun, 2 Jul 95 18:41:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSaNN-00038VC; Sun, 2 Jul 95 18:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Selcuk Ozturk Subject: Re: E-mail client dos and don'ts Date: Sun, 02 Jul 1995 21:26:29 EDT Message-Id: <27100@ftp.econ.pitt.edu> References: <3t7738$jrj@news1.wolfe.net> In-Reply-To: your message of Sun Jul 02 22:37:28 1995 Status: O X-Status: # > POP2 POP3 IMAP2 IMAP4 MIME # >------------------------------------------------------------------ # PC Pine for DOS no no yes not yet yes # PC Pine for Windows no no yes not yet yes # Unix Pine no no yes not yet yes # # Does anyone know if Pine has plans to support POP in the future? # I don't know the DOS/Windows versions, but, Unix version of pine already supports POP3 although 3.91 distribution has a bug there which renders it useless. I think, you have to take the last IMAP distribution from pine.cac.washington.edu and replace the one that comes with the pine distribution with it. Selcuk ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Selcuk Ozturk Economics Department e-mail: seost2+@pitt.edu University Of Pittsburgh http://ftp.econ.pitt.edu/selcuk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 2 22:56:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21644; Sun, 2 Jul 95 22:56:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17580; Sun, 2 Jul 95 22:42:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17574; Sun, 2 Jul 95 22:42:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSe8W-00038cC; Sun, 2 Jul 95 22:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tbe4050@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (David Pierce) Subject: NEED SEVERAL QUESTIONS ANSWERED Date: 2 Jul 1995 20:32:54 GMT Message-Id: <3t6vpm$jvv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Status: O X-Status: Hi everyone, my name is Dave first of all. Our server uses PINE as an email program, and I have a few questions about it. If anyone can answer any of these questions, email me directly. Please don't post the answers here! (unless you send them to me also) First, how does one attach files to email? How does one get an attached file to one's own computer? How do I download messages to my own computer? If anyone can help me out, I would appreciate it greatly! :) Dave :) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 2 23:21:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22044; Sun, 2 Jul 95 23:21:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18494; Sun, 2 Jul 95 23:15:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18488; Sun, 2 Jul 95 23:15:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSekM-00038fC; Sun, 2 Jul 95 23:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calfeld@math.utah.edu (Chris Alfeld) Subject: Re: Where can I get a manual? Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 19:32:01 GMT Message-Id: <6zvitl2cpa.fsf@ceslab01.math.utah.edu> References: <3snqpk$1ilf@admaix.sunydutchess.edu> In-Reply-To: derby@admaix.sunydutchess.edu's message of 27 Jun 1995 02: 35:32 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have written some guides to pine. Look at: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/creations or ftp://ftp.east-slc.edu/calfeld -- - Chris Alfeld - calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east-slc.edu - - Home Page: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld - - PGP Key available via finger: calfeld@east-slc.edu - From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 00:36:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23344; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:36:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18546; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:31:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18540; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:30:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSfuD-00038cC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josh@Wolfe.NET (Joshua_Putnam) Subject: Re: customized-hdrs, the real story! Date: 3 Jul 1995 07:19:58 GMT Message-Id: <3t85mv$t4@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3slbdg$l42@umbc7.umbc.edu> Status: O X-Status: In <3slbdg$l42@umbc7.umbc.edu> korenman@umbc.edu (Joan Korenman) writes: >In article , >Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq wrote: >> ... it really doesn't make much sense to have superflous >>'Reply-to:' identical to the 'From:' address... >need are 50 "please send me your file" messages). If in fact Pine doesn't >permit the Reply-to address to be the same as the From address, I think >that's an error that should be corrected in the next version. (This may Having Reply-To: be the same as From: is hardly superfluous or unusual, but I haven't had any problem doing it, either. Is the comparison case-sensitive? I capitalize my site name in my reply-to:, so maybe that confuses the checking routine and lets me put the header the way it belongs? Now if only I could get a Return-Receipt-To: header to show up in my default headers, with no value, so that I could add one when I wanted to see where some peice of mail is going astray! -- Josh@WOLFE.net is Joshua Putnam/P.O. Box 13220/Burton, WA 98013 "My other bike is a car." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 00:53:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23736; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:53:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18735; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:45:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18729; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:45:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSg8D-00038sC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josh@Wolfe.NET (Joshua_Putnam) Subject: Header editing problem? Adding occasional header? Date: 3 Jul 1995 07:39:34 GMT Message-Id: <3t86rm$14b@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: (Sorry if this is in the FAQ, but I didn't find an answer there.) Is there a good way to get pine to let me sometimes add a Return-Receipt-To: header to mail? I don't want it on there all the time, so I can't put it in as a customized header. If I put it on my standard headers list, with no value set, it doesn't show up to be edited. How can I simply edit the headers directly, like I can in elm or nn or most other apps I use? -- Josh@WOLFE.net is Joshua Putnam/P.O. Box 13220/Burton, WA 98013 "My other bike is a car." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 00:54:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23778; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:54:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19567; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:45:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19561; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:45:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSg5R-00038rC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josh@Wolfe.NET (Joshua_Putnam) Subject: Forward & .signature location? Date: 3 Jul 1995 07:34:14 GMT Message-Id: <3t86hn$140@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: I'm a long-time news and email user recently forced to use pine on one site instead of more traditional mailers like Mail and elm. Some of pine's idiosyncacracies are really getting on my nerves. Any help would be greatly appreciated. In every standard mail application I've ever used, forwarding a piece of mail gives me the original mail as included text, with my .signature on the bottom, where it belongs. News readers mostly work the same way, too. With pine, I can't figure out how to do this: it keeps wanting to put my .signature *before* the forwarded text, which is obviously wrong and can occasionally cause problems, e.g. when my sig-dashes trigger a long-.sig filter and most of the message is cut off as being an excessively-long .signature file. Is it possible to configure pine to forward mail normally? While I'm at it, is it possible to have pine insert my sig-dashes so I don't have to have one .sig file for pine and another one for the rest of the applications in the world? (Other apps have this as a configurable option, but the defualt is usually for the mailer/newsreader to insert the dashes above the contents of the .signature file. Now I have to have a .signature for normal apps and a .sig-with-dashes for pine.) -- Josh@WOLFE.net is Joshua Putnam/P.O. Box 13220/Burton, WA 98013 "My other bike is a car." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 01:04:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24036; Mon, 3 Jul 95 01:04:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19741; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:59:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19735; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:59:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSgM8-00038cC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dubois@uakari.primate.wisc.edu (Paul DuBois) Subject: Compiling 3.91 under Solaris 2.4 Date: 3 Jul 1995 02:46:06 -0500 Message-Id: <3t877uINNfrc@uakari.primate.wisc.edu> Status: O X-Status: There've been a couple of request about how to compile pine 3.91 under Solaris 2.4. I just tried it, since I'm upgrading a SPARC II from SunOS 4.1.1B (yes, you read that right). I didn't use gcc, I used Sun's compiler. Given that, only minor changes are necessary to make the distribution compile: In the pine directory, add -DANSI to CFLAGS in makefile.sol: *** makefile.sol.orig Wed Oct 5 01:14:50 1994 --- makefile.sol Mon Jul 3 02:17:06 1995 *************** *** 70,74 **** # Use these for the Solaris C compiler ! CFLAGS= -DSV4 $(OPTIMIZE) $(PROFILE) $(DEBUG) -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" # LDCC= /usr/bin/cc # If you don't have /usr/bin/cc (our Solaris 2.2 doesn't seem to have it, --- 70,74 ---- # Use these for the Solaris C compiler ! CFLAGS= -DSV4 $(OPTIMIZE) $(PROFILE) $(DEBUG) -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -DANSI # LDCC= /usr/bin/cc # If you don't have /usr/bin/cc (our Solaris 2.2 doesn't seem to have it, In pine/osdep, diddle a couple #defines in os-sv4.h: *** os-sv4.h.orig Mon Oct 10 17:30:01 1994 --- os-sv4.h Mon Jul 3 02:22:18 1995 *************** *** 186,192 **** /*----------------- Are we ANSI? ---------------------------------------*/ ! /* #define ANSI /* this is an ANSI compiler */ ! #define const /* compiler doesn't support const */ /*------ If our compiler doesn't understand type void ------------------*/ --- 186,192 ---- /*----------------- Are we ANSI? ---------------------------------------*/ ! #define ANSI /* this is an ANSI compiler */ ! /* #define const /* compiler doesn't support const */ /*------ If our compiler doesn't understand type void ------------------*/ I still got a zillion compiler warnings, but "build sol" at least generated runnable executables, and they seem to work. (pico and pine, at least, I didn't try anything else.) Hope this helps someone. -- Paul DuBois dubois@primate.wisc.edu http://www.primate.wisc.edu/homepage/dubois From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 03:34:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27231; Mon, 3 Jul 95 03:34:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20388; Mon, 3 Jul 95 03:29:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20382; Mon, 3 Jul 95 03:29:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSiYY-00038cC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 03:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hurtta@dionysos.fmi.fi (Kari E. Hurtta) Subject: Re: loooong address headers Date: 3 Jul 1995 09:53:34 GMT Message-Id: <3t8emu$a60@kronos.fmi.fi> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Article of Jackie Robbins Status: O X-Status: Jackie Robbins writes: »Had a student ask me a question on pine today. The secretary of a »student activity group sends meeting notices with Pine 3.91. She uses »the address book feature to define a group with the addresses »of 200+ members. What she would like to know is if there is anyway to »suppress the printing of all 200+ address in the header of the mail »message. A receiver of the message may have to scroll thru 200 lines of »mail addresses just to read a one line message, "meeting at 8". I'm »cross-posting to comp.mail.sendmail since this may be a sendmail issue. »(We are running sendmail version 5.64 which came with our RS/6000.) She can ask her Postmaster to add that list of 200+ address to sendmail's aliases database (to as on alias). Her Postmaster can put this alias to include addresses from file in her home directory. In that way she don't need Postmaster's help when that address list changes. (I'm assuming that her Postmaster knows hwat to do.) [ Comment cc'ed to questioner. ] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 10:03:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08729; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:03:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25476; Mon, 3 Jul 95 09:52:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [204.171.110.3] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25470; Mon, 3 Jul 95 09:52:56 -0700 Received: from der003.pader.gov by gatekeeper.pader.gov; (5.65/1.1.8.2/14Sep94-0947PM) id AA20052; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:53:08 -0400 Received: from DEP.STATE.PA.US by DEP.STATE.PA.US (PMDF V5.0-3 #8726) id <01HSFN3A3XZ48ZF760@DEP.STATE.PA.US> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 03 Jul 1995 12:53:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 03 Jul 1995 12:53:41 -0500 (EST) From: AVERBUKH@dep.state.pa.us Subject: subscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <01HSFN3A5THU8ZF760@DEP.STATE.PA.US> X-Vms-To: IN%"pine-info@cac.washington.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: subscribe help From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 10:34:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09958; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:34:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28712; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:26:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28706; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:26:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSp67-00038gC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josh@Wolfe.NET (Joshua_Putnam) Subject: Re: Forward & .signature location? Date: 3 Jul 1995 17:10:06 GMT Message-Id: <3t989e$9k1@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3t86hn$140@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: In Paul O Bartlett writes: > My remarks apply to Pine 3.91. >> In every standard mail application I've ever used, forwarding a >> piece of mail gives me the original mail as included text, with >> my .signature on the bottom, where it belongs. [...] >> >> Is it possible to configure pine to forward mail normally? > In this case, what is "normal" is a matter of interpretation, as Pine >allows you to do it both ways. From the Main Menu, go into Setup and >then Config. Scroll down some, and check the box "signature-at-bottom." I'm using 3.91, and checking the signature-at-bottom option does not put my .signature below forwarded mail. The .signature still appears before the forwarded mail. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Does anyone know why pine defaults to this odd configuration in the first place, instead of putting my .signature at the bottom of my mail? -- Josh@WOLFE.net is Joshua Putnam/P.O. Box 13220/Burton, WA 98013 "My other bike is a car." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 10:49:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10659; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:49:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26498; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:42:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26492; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:42:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSpM4-00038iC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josh@Wolfe.NET (Joshua_Putnam) Subject: Re: Forward & .signature location? Date: 3 Jul 1995 17:27:23 GMT Message-Id: <3t999r$9vu@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3t86hn$140@news1.wolfe.net> <3t989e$9k1@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: In <3t989e$9k1@news1.wolfe.net> josh@Wolfe.NET (Joshua_Putnam) writes: >In Paul O Bartlett writes: >> My remarks apply to Pine 3.91. >>> In every standard mail application I've ever used, forwarding a >>> piece of mail gives me the original mail as included text, with >>> my .signature on the bottom, where it belongs. [...] >> In this case, what is "normal" is a matter of interpretation, as Pine >>allows you to do it both ways. From the Main Menu, go into Setup and >>then Config. Scroll down some, and check the box "signature-at-bottom." >I'm using 3.91, and checking the signature-at-bottom option does >not put my .signature below forwarded mail. The .signature still >appears before the forwarded mail. An emailed response gives me one workaround: pine will format the forwarded mail properly if I use Reply then change the To: header after I'm done editing the message. Not elegant, but at least it works. Still hoping this is a configurable option..... -- Josh@WOLFE.net is Joshua Putnam/P.O. Box 13220/Burton, WA 98013 "My other bike is a car." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 10:51:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10713; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:51:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29106; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:42:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29100; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:42:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSpOl-00038gC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Forward & .signature location? Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:36:55 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3t86hn$140@news1.wolfe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3t86hn$140@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: My remarks apply to Pine 3.91. On 3 Jul 1995, Joshua_Putnam wrote (excerpted): > In every standard mail application I've ever used, forwarding a > piece of mail gives me the original mail as included text, with > my .signature on the bottom, where it belongs. [...] > > Is it possible to configure pine to forward mail normally? In this case, what is "normal" is a matter of interpretation, as Pine allows you to do it both ways. From the Main Menu, go into Setup and then Config. Scroll down some, and check the box "signature-at-bottom." > While I'm at it, is it possible to have pine insert my sig-dashes > so I don't have to have one .sig file for pine and another one > for the rest of the applications in the world? [...] This I doubt. I, for one, would not want it. As a general remark, I doubt that Pine is all things to all people, or even intended to be. It suits my needs just fine, particularly because it does have a fairly generous selection of "power user" features (such as using a different editor) which one may turn on or off at will. I've been using Pine 3.91 under Unix daily for about six months now, and every now and then I still discover a new capability. When I first started using it, I thought it was kind of boneheaded, but I have found I can do a lot more with it than I originally thought, epsecially because there are some interfaces one can exploit, particularly under Unix. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 10:59:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10940; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:59:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26711; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:53:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26705; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:53:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSpXG-00038gC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: customized-hdrs, the real story! Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:27:41 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3slbdg$l42@umbc7.umbc.edu> <3t85mv$t4@news1.wolfe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3t85mv$t4@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: On 3 Jul 1995, Joshua_Putnam wrote (excerpted): > Now if only I could get a Return-Receipt-To: header to show up in > my default headers, with no value, so that I could add one when I > wanted to see where some peice of mail is going astray! Have you tried actually putting in a customized header (Return-Receipt-To:) with no value? I haven't needed to do so myself, but I would think it should work, at least in Pine 3.91. Normally, if there is no value assigned to the header, Pine would ignore it for outgoing mail and news. When you want to include it, just go into the header, press Ctrl-R for Rich Headers, and put in the address before you send. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 13:02:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15500; Mon, 3 Jul 95 13:02:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01764; Mon, 3 Jul 95 12:57:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01758; Mon, 3 Jul 95 12:57:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSrXv-00038gC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 12:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: customized-hdrs, the real story! Date: 3 Jul 1995 19:32:50 GMT Message-Id: <3t9gl2$co6@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3slbdg$l42@umbc7.umbc.edu> <3t85mv$t4@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: josh@Wolfe.NET (Joshua_Putnam) writes: >Now if only I could get a Return-Receipt-To: header to show up in >my default headers, with no value, so that I could add one when I >wanted to see where some peice of mail is going astray! Try editing your default-composer-hdrs variable. -Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 13:23:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16797; Mon, 3 Jul 95 13:23:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02454; Mon, 3 Jul 95 13:17:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02442; Mon, 3 Jul 95 13:17:51 -0700 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA20227; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 21:31:30 +0500 Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 21:31:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip Old X-Sender: fold@mail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do I stop Pine from justifing ASCII uploads? In-Reply-To: <3t52am$jp0@news.annex.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 0 Status: O X-Status: On 2 Jul 1995, DANIEL PRINCE wrote: > I like to compose some messages ofline and then do an ASCII upload of > them. When I do this in Pine (and Pico) it justifies all my paragraphs > together. Is there any way I can stop it from doing this? It takes a > lot of time to go in and separate my paragraphs and it shouldn't be > necessary. It would help to know what platform Pine is running on (UNIX? DOS?) and how you're accessing it (dial-up?), but I'll guess it's on a UNIX box and you're accessing it by dialing into a shell account. I do ASCII uploads into Pine fairly often and don't have that problem. I suspect it is your telecomm software, not Pine, that is to blame. Some telecomm software ignores lines containing only a CR during an ASCII dump. In some telecomm software this is configurable, so check that first. If that doesn't work, the trick is to make your "blank" lines actually non-blank. Put a space character or two on each blank line. This will still appear to be a blank line to the reader, but your computer will treat it as a non-blank line. Most telecomm software will send such lines unmodified. If that doesn't work, then put an unobtrusive character (like a period) on each "blank" line. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 17:09:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24964; Mon, 3 Jul 95 17:09:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03413; Mon, 3 Jul 95 16:57:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03407; Mon, 3 Jul 95 16:57:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSvLr-00038hC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 16:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: E-mail client dos and don'ts Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 15:24:56 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3suogl$mag@newstand.syr.edu> <3t7738$jrj@news1.wolfe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3t7738$jrj@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: On 2 Jul 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > >Matrix of Popular Mail Systems w/ Internet-oriented features > > > > > > POP2 POP3 IMAP2 IMAP4 MIME > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > PC Pine for DOS no no yes not yet yes > PC Pine for Windows no no yes not yet yes > Unix Pine no no yes not yet yes > > > Does anyone know if Pine has plans to support POP in the future? POP3 support (using it as if it was IMAP) is in 3.91, but has known bugs which make it less than completely useful. This bug is fixed in the IMAP 3.6 toolkit which is used in 3.92. This POP3 support is not turned on for DOS. For 3.92 (not yet released), and for 3.91 if you substitute the IMAP 3.6 toolkit, the matrix is: POP2 POP3 IMAP2 IMAP4 MIME ------------------------------------------------------------------ PC Pine for DOS no not yet yes not yet yes PC Pine for Windows no not yet yes not yet yes Unix Pine no yes yes not yet yes Versions after 3.92 are expected to use the IMAP 4.0 toolkit, which has POP3 code that works on DOS. For these versions, the matrix will be: POP2 POP3 IMAP2 IMAP4 MIME ------------------------------------------------------------------ PC Pine for DOS no yes yes yes yes PC Pine for Windows no yes yes yes yes Unix Pine no yes yes yes yes I can not speculate at the present time when we will have "native" POP3 support (that is, using POP3 as an offline client rather than as a dysfunctional IMAP), but this is expected to be sooner rather than later. It would be fairly simple to add POP2 support, but nobody has asked for it and the concensus in the POP community is that POP2 is dead. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 22:05:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01473; Mon, 3 Jul 95 22:05:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11305; Mon, 3 Jul 95 22:01:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11299; Mon, 3 Jul 95 22:01:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sT02C-00038hC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 21:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccasuzi@techunix.technion.ac.il (Susan Feingold) Subject: Is there a 'kill' command in pine's netnews ? Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 04:27:20 GMT Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ Susan Feingold D.Sc. ccasuzi@techunix.technion.ac.il Taub Computer Center phone 972-4-294997 Technion, Israel Institute of Technology fax 972-4-236212 Haifa, Israel 32000 - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 00:43:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04433; Tue, 4 Jul 95 00:43:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08698; Tue, 4 Jul 95 00:36:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08692; Tue, 4 Jul 95 00:36:33 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id KAA29649; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 10:16:36 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA08791; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 10:08:00 GMT Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 10:07:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Mark Crispin Subject: A mysterious problem with PINE 3.91 !!!! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have this mysterious problem with PINE 3.91, I am the system administrator at my company, and some times when I am checking the system processes I find some running with no NAME, I go to the owner of the process to check it up I find out he is running PINE !! What should I do about that ? Thanks Al Khamis Galtronics LTD. Israel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 04:34:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09584; Tue, 4 Jul 95 04:34:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16217; Tue, 4 Jul 95 04:27:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16211; Tue, 4 Jul 95 04:27:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sT64V-00038mC; Tue, 4 Jul 95 04:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simone@crash.cts.com (Simone Shoemaker) Subject: signature problems - please help Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 05:29:51 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I finally got myself a signature file edited, and when I send mail to someone, it also appends correctly. But it never shows up when I post something in a newsgroup. What would I have to do, to have the signature appended when I post articles? Please e-mail, if you can help. Also, please explain in very simple terms. I'm not particularily computer literate. Thanks!! Simone From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 05:45:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11036; Tue, 4 Jul 95 05:45:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11761; Tue, 4 Jul 95 05:29:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11755; Tue, 4 Jul 95 05:29:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sT750-00038lC; Tue, 4 Jul 95 05:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alberto Torraca Subject: Pine access error Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 08:19:24 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: While attempting to delete old messages from inbox...an access mailbox violation error is flashed accross the screen. After I exit pine and execute the program again, I find that the amount of messages I intended to delete duplicate themselve...so of like critters...has anybody encounter this problem. This has been an intermittent problem, hard to trace. We have two servers running linux. Our mail server takes care of all inbox/incomming mail...our second server allows users to log in and access their nfs'ed mailbox...any ideas...Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 10:58:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16409; Tue, 4 Jul 95 10:58:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20839; Tue, 4 Jul 95 10:48:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20833; Tue, 4 Jul 95 10:48:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTBwv-00038oC; Tue, 4 Jul 95 10:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: miotto@ues7.cern.ch (Alessandro Miotto) Subject: Any known problems with pico and AIX 3.2? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 15:59:34 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have been reported a couple of problems by pine users on AIX 3.2 (we are using several different architectures at this site and this looks specific to the AIX version). I have no core or pine-debug information yet so I would like to understand whether similar behaviours are already known before investigating further. Both problems seem to be related with pico, as they happened when composing a message: - A pine with no terminal attached (!) was found consuming all available CPU. The stack trace was inside pico. - In another session pico kept pasting the same buffer over and over until it was killed by hand. The text was saved into the postponed messages folder, and when restarted pine asked whether the user wanted to resume composition. After typing "yes" the program crashed. Alessandro --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alessandro Miotto - CN/DCI/UES | Tel: +41 22 767 9576 CERN - European Laboratory | Fax: +41 22 767 7155 for Particle Physics | E-mail: miotto@mail.cern.ch CH-1211 Geneve 23 | -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alessandro Miotto - CN/DCI/UES | Tel: +41 22 767 9576 CERN - European Laboratory | Fax: +41 22 767 7155 for Particle Physics | E-mail: miotto@mail.cern.ch From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 12:24:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18053; Tue, 4 Jul 95 12:24:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15918; Tue, 4 Jul 95 12:14:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15912; Tue, 4 Jul 95 12:14:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTDPl-00038IC; Tue, 4 Jul 95 12:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chivas@sfu.ca (Jim Chivas) Subject: fax software and Pine Date: 4 Jul 1995 16:13:58 GMT Message-Id: <3tbpc6$obk@seymour.sfu.ca> Status: O X-Status: Greetings: Has any one any experience with using fax software like 'visifax' and Pine. I would like to hear from anyone who uses fax software and if they somehow integrate it with pine or just run the fax software standalone. Thanks Jim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 14:08:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20562; Tue, 4 Jul 95 14:08:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23570; Tue, 4 Jul 95 14:00:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23564; Tue, 4 Jul 95 14:00:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTF3K-00038LC; Tue, 4 Jul 95 13:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nstn1421@fox.nstn.ca (nstn1421) Subject: French version of pine? Date: 4 Jul 1995 17:49:30 -0300 Message-Id: <3tc9gq$rmj@Owl.nstn.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: Does anyone know if there is a French version of pine? And if so where would one get its source? Rick Berger From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 15:07:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21485; Tue, 4 Jul 95 15:07:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17723; Tue, 4 Jul 95 14:57:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17717; Tue, 4 Jul 95 14:57:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTFvc-00038LC; Tue, 4 Jul 95 14:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dhollis@clark.net (Miracle Man) Subject: Mouse in PC-Pine 3.91 Date: 4 Jul 1995 17:32:28 GMT Message-Id: <3tbtvc$ag9@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Anyone ever notice that in PCPine for Windows, you can select messages from the index listing with the mouse, but you can't select folders from the folder list? Also, is there anyway to keep addressbooks and signatures on the UNIX host? Everything else seems to be able to, but not those (this causes some headaches for users migrating to PCPine). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 15:38:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22023; Tue, 4 Jul 95 15:38:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24707; Tue, 4 Jul 95 15:30:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24701; Tue, 4 Jul 95 15:30:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTGTF-00038EC; Tue, 4 Jul 95 15:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Dowman Subject: how do I change the user name? Date: 4 Jul 1995 22:27:32 GMT Message-Id: <3tcf8k$2s2@nic.wat.hookup.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I mail from have several accounts, but I want all the replies to come to the same account. I can change the domain name, but I can't figure out how to change the username. Thanks, Paul. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 18:44:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25237; Tue, 4 Jul 95 18:44:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20026; Tue, 4 Jul 95 18:35:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20020; Tue, 4 Jul 95 18:35:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTJMp-00038EC; Tue, 4 Jul 95 18:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Dowman Subject: POP & pine?? Date: 4 Jul 1995 22:19:48 GMT Message-Id: <3tceq4$2s2@nic.wat.hookup.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I heard that pine 3.91 works with POP? Is that true? If so, how do I set it up? Thanks, Paul Dowman. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 19:06:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25715; Tue, 4 Jul 95 19:06:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27366; Tue, 4 Jul 95 18:58:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27360; Tue, 4 Jul 95 18:58:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTJdJ-00038CC; Tue, 4 Jul 95 18:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Owlman Subject: Blinking Subject Line Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 21:41:05 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Has anyone ever noticed that some email has a blinking Subject line. What I want to know is can this be done using pine? I've used pico to edit several files that have blinking subject lines and as of yet can't understand how they do it. Thanks for any help or replies in advance. WC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 21:23:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27897; Tue, 4 Jul 95 21:23:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21536; Tue, 4 Jul 95 21:13:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21530; Tue, 4 Jul 95 21:13:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTLlh-00038EC; Tue, 4 Jul 95 21:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lpat@unixg.ubc.ca (Lois Patterson) Subject: Directing Incoming Mail and Stripping Headers Date: 4 Jul 1995 21:02:23 -0700 Message-Id: <3td2sf$j0c@interchg.ubc.ca> Status: O X-Status: I have a feeling that my questions are probably fairly elementary, but I would really appreciate any help. 1) Is it possible to direct mail from a single address (a list, say from abc@host) into its own folder without it getting into my inbox? 2) Is there a way I can make a batch file to strip all the headers from the messages that are in this folder? Thank you for your help. Lois Patterson lpat@unixg.ubc.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 00:15:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01534; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:15:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01394; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:06:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01388; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:06:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTOUF-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Blinking Subject Line Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 21:56:03 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 4 Jul 1995, Owlman wrote: > Has anyone ever noticed that some email has a blinking Subject line. > What I want to know is can this be done using pine? I've used pico to > edit several files that have blinking subject lines and as of yet can't > understand how they do it. However it's done -- and I am not sure myself -- I would recommend against it. This much I am aware of, "control" bytes are embedded in the text of the subject line which are not part of the printable 7-bit US-ASCII character set. On some users' terminals/PCs/whatever, these bytes cause the blinking effect. For other users, they can just cause trouble. Were I one of the latter users, I would be upset. It may look cute -- unless you are one of the recipients whose display goes cuckoo. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 00:19:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01618; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:19:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23336; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:11:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23330; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:11:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTOY3-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: clm1948@oeonline.com (Christine Mackley) Subject: Can I forward my newsgroups from one acct to another? Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 23:23:31 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hi I have a new slip account and I want to know if I can forward a few newsgroups that I can't get in my new account? I all ready made a forward file and it forwards my email bot now the newsgroup mail. HELP! Thanks in idvance, Christine {*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*} {*} I am 'Kristyne" on Undernet IRC channels #41plus and #big-folks {*} {*} E-mail me at: clm1948@oeonline.com {*} {*} (Yes! I am a 46 year old VBBW [super-size]) {*} {*} You can learn more about me from my homepage: {*} {*} http://oeonline.com/~clm1948/kristyne.html {*} {*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*} From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 01:07:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02782; Wed, 5 Jul 95 01:07:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02058; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:57:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02052; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:57:28 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 5 Jul 1995 08:53:29 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id IAA01781; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 08:58:59 +0100 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 08:58:59 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Owlman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Blinking Subject Line In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Inflicting blinking text on unsuspecting recipients is a cruel and unusual punishment. It is not a practice that should be encouraged. Also, the method of doing it is fairly terminal type specific, and what works on one can cause problems on another. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 4 Jul 1995, Owlman wrote: > Has anyone ever noticed that some email has a blinking Subject line. > What I want to know is can this be done using pine? I've used pico to > edit several files that have blinking subject lines and as of yet can't > understand how they do it. > > Thanks for any help or replies in advance. > > WC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 01:26:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03127; Wed, 5 Jul 95 01:26:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24012; Wed, 5 Jul 95 01:16:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24006; Wed, 5 Jul 95 01:16:22 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 5 Jul 1995 09:12:54 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA03288; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 09:18:25 +0100 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 09:18:25 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Christine Mackley Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can I forward my newsgroups from one acct to another? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Whilst Pine allows you to read and send e-mail and Usenet News messages in very similar ways, the underlying delivery mechanisms are quite different. E-mail arrives at your machine, and gets delivered into a file owned by you, and for only you. Once messages have arrived they remain sitting in this file on disk waiting for you to read them and deal with them. Usenet News is quite a different kettle of fish. Here articles are delivered to a special machine running "news server" software. They are held in a *shared* directory area -- the same area is available to all the users, rather then having separate personal copies for each user. When somebody wants to read news Pine (or whatever other news reader you are using) connects to the server and requests a copy of the article to display. This doesn't get saved to a file of your own on disk unless you explicitly give a command to do so. After a time the news server software "expires" old articles, deleting them from its shared directory to make room for new material. So whereas e-mail "comes to you", Usenet News is more of a "you go out and get the article you want to read". This means that whilst e-mail can be redirected -- delivered to a different machine/username -- Usenet News cannot. You *might* be able to get around your problem by connecting to your "old" news server computer (assuming you are still allowed access after your move) to read News from. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 4 Jul 1995, Christine Mackley wrote: > Hi > > I have a new slip account and I want to know if I can forward a few > newsgroups that I can't get in my new account? I all ready made a > forward file and it forwards my email bot now the newsgroup mail. > > HELP! > > Thanks in idvance, > Christine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 02:41:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04755; Wed, 5 Jul 95 02:41:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03329; Wed, 5 Jul 95 02:30:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03323; Wed, 5 Jul 95 02:30:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTQfU-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 02:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lars Scheffmann Subject: Re: how do I change the user name? Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:18:47 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3tcf8k$2s2@nic.wat.hookup.net> Status: O X-Status: On 4 Jul 1995, Paul Dowman wrote: > I mail from have several accounts, but I want all the replies to come to the > same account. > > I can change the domain name, but I can't figure out how to change the > username. > Use the header field Reply-to: it is designed for this purpose. Most mail clients take this field instead of the From:, when you issue a reply. ............................................................................... . Lars Scheffmann | DOU | Mail: scheffmann@dou.ou.dk . . Netadministrator | Niels Bohrs Alle 11 | Phone: +45 66130827 ext.247 . . Postmaster | 5230 Odense M | Direct: +45 65914700 + 247 . . University of Odense | Denmark | Fax: +45 66123366 . ............................................................................... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 03:40:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06008; Wed, 5 Jul 95 03:40:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25414; Wed, 5 Jul 95 03:29:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25408; Wed, 5 Jul 95 03:29:49 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:26:22 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id LAA11993; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:31:54 +0100 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:31:53 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: how do I change the user name? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: "Reply-to:" is not one of the "standard" headers in Pine (the four yet normally see when composing a message. Some additional ones can be seen and used by using the Ctrl/R (Rich Header) command with the cursor on any of the header lines. However, again "Reply-to:" is not amongst these. So what you need to do is add it as a "customised header". You do this (in Pine 3.91) by going to the Main Menu then typing S and C to get to the Setup Configuration screen. Next move down to the "customized-hdrs" variable (quite a way down) and then type A (Add Value). Now enter: Reply-to: username@blah.blah.blah and press Return to accept it. (Obviously "username@blah.blah.blah" should really be the e-mail address you want replies to come back to!) Now leave the Setup Configuration screen by typing E, which will return you to the Main Menu. Now try sending a message. With the cursor up on a header line type Ctrl/R to see all the headers and there should now be an extra one shown as "Reply To:" with a default value of your e-mail address already filled in (because you included it in the Setup Configuration screen). Now send the message and try it out! Note that this header gets added and set up even without having to do a Ctrl/R. You can just Compose a message and send it *without* having to do the Ctrl/R -- all this does is *show* you the extra headers (and let you change them if you wish). Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 5 Jul 1995, Lars Scheffmann wrote: > On 4 Jul 1995, Paul Dowman wrote: > > > I mail from have several accounts, but I want all the replies to come to the > > same account. > > > > I can change the domain name, but I can't figure out how to change the > > username. > > > Use the header field Reply-to: it is designed for this purpose. > Most mail clients take this field instead of the From:, when you issue a > reply. > > ............................................................................... > . Lars Scheffmann | DOU | Mail: scheffmann@dou.ou.dk . > . Netadministrator | Niels Bohrs Alle 11 | Phone: +45 66130827 ext.247 . > . Postmaster | 5230 Odense M | Direct: +45 65914700 + 247 . > . University of Odense | Denmark | Fax: +45 66123366 . > ............................................................................... > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 03:46:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06157; Wed, 5 Jul 95 03:46:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25509; Wed, 5 Jul 95 03:37:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25503; Wed, 5 Jul 95 03:37:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTRfs-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 03:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tknab@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Terry Knab) Subject: Re: Mail forwarding in pine [on VMS system]. Date: 27 Jun 1995 02:54:05 -0600 Message-Id: <3sogvd$2se@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <3p36fl$11p@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> <3sk9j6$it4@news3.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: Blue Falcon (jlbrown@universe.digex.net) wrote: : Larry Miller [DT] (lmiller@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx) wrote: : : ESPINOZA JAIME C (e0f8et4k@tuzo.erin) wrote: : : > Quick question.. I just want to know the precise format : : > to use in the .forward file for forwarding messages to another : : > location. I know it is simply one line, but like most things.. : : make it the full email address of where you want your mail forwarded VMS is screwey in its forwarding protocals. Pine .forward doesn't work on VMS...sorry...you gotta use VMS mail for that. >From the VMS mail prompt, type: set forward " Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09417; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:46:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05769; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:36:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05763; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:36:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTTbb-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Owlman Subject: Re: Blinking Subject Line Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 08:28:57 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 4 Jul 1995, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jul 1995, Owlman wrote: > > > Has anyone ever noticed that some email has a blinking Subject line. > > What I want to know is can this be done using pine? I've used pico to > > edit several files that have blinking subject lines and as of yet can't > > understand how they do it. > > However it's done -- and I am not sure myself -- I would recommend > against it. This much I am aware of, "control" bytes are embedded in > the text of the subject line which are not part of the printable 7-bit > US-ASCII character set. On some users' terminals/PCs/whatever, these > bytes cause the blinking effect. For other users, they can just cause > trouble. Were I one of the latter users, I would be upset. It may look > cute -- unless you are one of the recipients whose display goes cuckoo. > > Paul Thanks for the info Paul. Now I know why it's not often you see these post with blinking subjects. I myself would be upset also if it locked up my system everytime a post of that nature was sent. Just as I've always said it pays to ask questions first before you venture out on you own. Thanks again. Wm. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 05:50:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09559; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:50:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26954; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:41:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26948; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:41:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTTfq-00038HC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fxars@aurora.alaska.edu (Al Sparks) Subject: Re: Will Pine 3.92 ever be created? Date: 03 Jul 1995 18:33:41 GMT Message-Id: References: <2ff1caab51c0002@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com> In-Reply-To: Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com's message of 27 Jun 1995 22:39:56 -0700 Status: O X-Status: >>>>> "E" == Edward M Greshko writes: E> However, if you'd like to hurry up the development I'm sure E> that the PineTeam would gladly accept a generous (read *large*) E> tax deductible donation to hire the necessary staff to make E> your wishes come true. The Free Software Foundation not only accepts tax deductable contributions (cash), but contributions of time. In other words, you can join the team. What about UW? === Al From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 05:52:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09601; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:52:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05843; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:41:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05837; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:41:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTTg0-00038IC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fxars@aurora.alaska.edu (Al Sparks) Subject: Re: Pine on DEC ALPHA machine Date: 03 Jul 1995 18:35:18 GMT Message-Id: References: <3sk99m$it4@news3.digex.net> In-Reply-To: jlbrown@universe.digex.net's message of 25 Jun 1995 18:18:30 GMT Status: O X-Status: >>>>> "B" == Blue Falcon writes: B> I need help installing Pine on a DEC ALPHA machine. It's a B> pretty ancient system that can't really do much of anything. B> Would appreciate any help on this. DEC Alpha ancient? Anyway, you didn't give any details. Is it running OpenVMS, or Digital Unix? We have pine running on our system just fine (Digital Unix). === Al From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 06:25:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10602; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:25:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06318; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:16:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06312; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:16:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTUAX-00038EC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fxars@aurora.alaska.edu (Al Sparks) Subject: Global Address Book File Date: 03 Jul 1995 18:49:17 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: We've added a (large) global addressbook to our system. The result is that pine creates a large (~ 1Mb) file in the /tmp directory (sample name a3000559) for each user of pine. Is there a way to have one such file for all users, instead of each individtual user? We're wasting lots of space. The file doesn't disappear either if a pine is exited abnormally wasting even more space. === Al From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 06:27:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10705; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:27:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27348; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:16:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27342; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:16:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTUAO-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fxars@aurora.alaska.edu (Al Sparks) Subject: Re: Anonymous/Name changes Date: 03 Jul 1995 18:39:27 GMT Message-Id: References: <3ss4ss$ueo@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> In-Reply-To: jmarken@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca's message of 28 Jun 1995 17:52:28 GMT Status: O X-Status: >>>>> "J" == John Marken writes: J> How would you change your name that is shown in the J> newsgroups. Do you do it through Pine? If you go into setup (from the main menu) and then choose "C" for configuration, you'll find an entry for personal name. I don't know if pine allows you to change your account name. === Al From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 07:01:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11680; Wed, 5 Jul 95 07:01:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27820; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:52:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27814; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:52:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTUrJ-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: system@ax1503.chemie.uni-marburg.de (Klaus Harms) Subject: Re: Pine on DEC ALPHA machine Date: 5 Jul 1995 13:09:06 GMT Message-Id: <3te2ti$ino@surz03.HRZ.Uni-Marburg.DE> References: <3sk99m$it4@news3.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: In article , fxars@aurora.alaska.edu (Al Sparks) writes: |>>>>>> "B" == Blue Falcon writes: |> |> B> I need help installing Pine on a DEC ALPHA machine. It's a |> B> pretty ancient system that can't really do much of anything. |> B> Would appreciate any help on this. |> |>DEC Alpha ancient? Anyway, you didn't give any details. Is it |>running OpenVMS, or Digital Unix? We have pine running on our system |>just fine (Digital Unix). |> === Al |> We have pine running on our Alpha/VMS system. A group in Israel is working on the vms version. I've forgotten the ftp address. Klaus -- ========================= Dr. Klaus Harms Fachbereich Chemie der Philipps-Universitaet Hans-Meerwein-Str. D-35032 Marburg E-mail: harms@mailer.uni-marburg.de Phone : +49-6421-287029 Fax : +49-6421-288917 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 07:07:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11908; Wed, 5 Jul 95 07:07:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27846; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:53:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27840; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:53:28 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:49:50 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id OAA24962; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:55:16 +0100 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:55:16 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Al Sparks Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Global Address Book File In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I think this is because although you have created the "address book" file you either haven't created or updated the "lookup" support file. This lives in the same directory as the address book file, and has the same name but with ".lu" appended. (Try looking for .address* in your login directory and you'll see what I mean.) The look up file provides a sort of index into the address book file for quick access. Pine checks the modification times of address book and associated look up files as it starts (or soon after, possibly when you start sending a message). If the look up file doesn't exist or is out of date it then tries to create/update it automatically. However if you don't have write access to the directory/file, as is usually the case for a global address book, it runs into problems. So instead it makes a temporary version in the /tmp directory which it then uses for that session. The solution is for the maintainer of the global address book to update the look up file after any change. You can do this by logging into a username with write access to the directory and file, and then: cd to the directory with the address book pine -create_lu addrbookname sort-order chmod go+r addrbookname.lu where "sort-order" is one of "dont-sort", "nickname", "fullname", "nickname-with-lists-last" or "fullname-with-lists-last" (the same sort orders available in the Setup Configuration screen for your personal address book). REMEMBER to reset the protection of the new/modified look up file (the "chmod" command above). I *always* get caught by this; Pine always (re)creates it with no access to "group" or "others", so people can't read it, so you *still* get the temporary versions being created in /tmp. [I'll e-mail the Pine Team separately asking if they can reuse the protection of any existing look up file when updating it in some future version of Pine.] Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 3 Jul 1995, Al Sparks wrote: > We've added a (large) global addressbook to our system. The result is > that pine creates a large (~ 1Mb) file in the /tmp directory (sample > name a3000559) for each user of pine. > > Is there a way to have one such file for all users, instead of each > individtual user? We're wasting lots of space. The file doesn't > disappear either if a pine is exited abnormally wasting even more > space. > === Al > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 08:38:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14896; Wed, 5 Jul 95 08:38:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08526; Wed, 5 Jul 95 08:27:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08520; Wed, 5 Jul 95 08:27:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTWIC-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 08:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Directing Incoming Mail and Stripping Headers Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 10:41:52 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3td2sf$j0c@interchg.ubc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3td2sf$j0c@interchg.ubc.ca> Status: O X-Status: On 4 Jul 1995, Lois Patterson wrote: | I have a feeling that my questions are probably fairly elementary, but I | would really appreciate any help. No way to find out but ask. :-) | 1) Is it possible to direct mail from a single address (a list, say from | abc@host) into its own folder without it getting into my inbox? Pine by itself does not do this. You need mail filtering software which preprocesses the mail before Pine gets hold of it. On Un*x systems, a common software package to do this is procmail. Rather than take up space here, email me if you are on a Un*x system, and I can point you to some instructions about procmail. It's pretty easy to do. I am very glad the capability exists. | 2) Is there a way I can make a batch file to strip all the headers from | the messages that are in this folder? Maybe somebody will already have this one worked out and will be willing to share. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 09:53:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19290; Wed, 5 Jul 95 09:53:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01266; Wed, 5 Jul 95 09:43:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01260; Wed, 5 Jul 95 09:43:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTXTx-00038IC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 09:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kurt.risser@shivasys.com (Kurt) Subject: Re: fax software and Pine Date: Wed, 05 Jul 1995 15:51:26 GMT Message-Id: <3tec7l$cs4@news.paonline.com> References: <3tbpc6$obk@seymour.sfu.ca> Status: O X-Status: chivas@sfu.ca (Jim Chivas) wrote: >Greetings: Has any one any experience with using fax software like >'visifax' and Pine. I would like to hear from anyone who uses fax >software and if they somehow integrate it with pine or just run the fax >software standalone. >Thanks >Jim Yeah, we use PINE & VSIFAX together.... I have had numerous problems making Pine work, although most of the problems so far have been system problems, and have mostly been corrected. What kind of problems are you having? We are using an IBM RS/6000 with AIX UNIX 3.2.0. Kurt Risser MIS, Snider Bolt, Louisviolle, KY 502 968-2250 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 10:32:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20701; Wed, 5 Jul 95 10:32:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11794; Wed, 5 Jul 95 10:27:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11788; Wed, 5 Jul 95 10:27:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTYCL-00038HC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 10:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: glenn Subject: [Q] quick start newsgroup posting from command line Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 03:54:10 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello, I know that I can compose a letter from the command line using pine then the address directly following it, but is there a way that I can use the same quick compose method to post to a newsgroup? My newsgroup header is considered part of the customized-headers field and has to be invoked using ^R everytime I want to post. Is there a quicker way? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Glenn J Escudero - San Jose State University - Mechanical Engineering -- -- E-Mail: glenn@pobox.com - URL: http://www.crl.com/~escudero/home.html -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 10:48:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21428; Wed, 5 Jul 95 10:48:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02530; Wed, 5 Jul 95 10:42:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02524; Wed, 5 Jul 95 10:42:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTYOT-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 10:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marc Andersen SFE Subject: Re: Building PINE 3.91 on Solaris 2.4? Date: 27 Jun 1995 09:42:37 GMT Message-Id: <3sojqd$eo1@balder.adm.ku.dk> References: <3sbefo$le@news.uni-c.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: jhenselm@inter.NL.net (Johan Henselmans) wrote: >I don't seem to get it to work with sol2.4. Understandable, sorry I forgot to mention a change in another file. Here it goes, hopefully more succesfull. Note that I am using gcc, 2.3.3, and may have different organisation of include files that you have. Here is what I did: 0) This works only for pine, a similar problem exist for imapd. 1) Used the build script build CC=gcc sol 2) Edited the file pine/makefile.sol around line 80, by adding -DANSI, so it looks like this: # Use these for the gcc compiler # Yep, marc CC= gcc CFLAGS= -DSV4 $(OPTIMIZE) $(PROFILE) $(DEBUG) -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -DANSI 3) Changed around line 194 from BAD: /*----------------- Are we ANSI?----------------------------------*/ BAD: /* #define ANSI /* this is an ANSI compiler */ BAD: #define const /* compiler doesn't support const */ to /*----------------- Are we ANSI? ---------------------------------------*/ /* Changed ma, using gcc which is ansi and understand const */ /* #define ANSI /* this is an ANSI compiler */ #ifndef ANSI #define const /* compiler doesn't support const */ #endif 4) In pine subdirectory make -f makefile.sol If you want to track the error down, then try in the pine directory: gcc -E -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -c addrbook.c | grep "rename(" This is the command issued from makefile.sol. The -E option sends the preprocessor output to stdout, and grep rename searches for defintions of rename. Output is: extern int rename(const char *, const char *); extern int rename( char *, char *); Explaining > /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/unistd.h:225: > conflicting types for `rename' > /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/stdio.h:153: > previous declaration of `rename' Marc Andersen Department of Biostatistics, University of Copenhagen, Denmark e-mail ma@kubism.ku.dk, phone +45 35 32 79 04, fax +45 35 32 79 07 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 11:53:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24188; Wed, 5 Jul 95 11:53:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13737; Wed, 5 Jul 95 11:47:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13729; Wed, 5 Jul 95 11:47:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTZTX-00038EC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 11:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kurt.risser@shivasys.com (Kurt) Subject: Re: Any known problems with pico and AIX 3.2? Date: Wed, 05 Jul 1995 15:48:04 GMT Message-Id: <3tec1b$cs4@news.paonline.com> References: Status: O X-Status: miotto@ues7.cern.ch (Alessandro Miotto) wrote: >I have no core or pine-debug information yet so I would like to understand >whether similar behaviours are already known before investigating further. >- In another session pico kept pasting the same buffer over and over until > it was killed by hand. The text was saved into the postponed messages > folder, and when restarted pine asked whether the user wanted to resume > composition. After typing "yes" the program crashed. > Alessandro I have had pine crash under AIX 3.2.0 when choosing C to compose a new message, and also when choosing C to continue composing an interrupted message. When it crashes, it squirts reversed question marks and other bizzarre characters onto the terminal, then hangs. I have to kill pine from another terminal... Kurt Risser Snider Bolt, Louisville, KY USA 502 968-2250 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 13:36:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29168; Wed, 5 Jul 95 13:36:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16243; Wed, 5 Jul 95 13:27:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16237; Wed, 5 Jul 95 13:27:35 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18536; Wed, 5 Jul 95 13:27:16 -0700 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 13:27:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Al Sparks Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Will Pine 3.92 ever be created? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: On 3 Jul 1995, Al Sparks wrote: > The Free Software Foundation not only accepts tax deductable > contributions (cash), but contributions of time. In other words, you > can join the team. > > What about UW? Al, At the first hint of anyone sending us any cash, I'll be happy to inquire about tax exemptions! As for contributing time, there is obviously plenty still to do, but it can get awkard to manage a software project with too many fingers in the pie. The key is to find tasks that can be done relatively independently. For example, quite a few people have suggested having a mailbox driver that compresses/uncompresses the folders. This would be a completely new and separate c-client driver, so it could be developed without any coordination with/by the UW team... but so far there have only been suggestors, no volunteers to implement. Even if there were volunteers, there are quality control and completeness issues as well. Suppose, for example, someone contributed a compressing folder driver. But it only worked on Ultrix. What should we do? Include it in the distribution, even though many people would be disappointed and/or complain that it didn't work on their platform? Or spend the time to generalize it? Or include it as contributed/unsupported? Probably the latter, until it became something that the folks who pay our bills cared about, but my point is that even though there's lots of work to be done, and *maybe* lots of willing hands, it's not always easy to put the two together in a way that actually reduces the work for the core team. Still, on the relatively rare occasions we have received bug fixes or minor enhancements from folks, we've been very grateful to get them. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 14:18:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00593; Wed, 5 Jul 95 14:18:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07025; Wed, 5 Jul 95 14:10:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07019; Wed, 5 Jul 95 14:10:13 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28075; Wed, 5 Jul 95 14:10:09 -0700 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:10:00 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Alberto Torraca Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine access error In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 4 Jul 1995, Alberto Torraca wrote: > Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 08:19:24 -0400 > From: Alberto Torraca > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Pine access error > > > While attempting to delete old messages from inbox...an access mailbox > violation error is flashed accross the screen. After I exit pine and > execute the program again, I find that the amount of messages I intended > to delete duplicate themselve...so of like critters...has anybody > encounter this problem. This has been an intermittent problem, hard to > trace. We have two servers running linux. Our mail server takes care > of all inbox/incomming mail...our second server allows users to log in > and access their nfs'ed mailbox...any ideas...Thanks. ^^^ That's a likely cause of problems. I'm not sure about this specific one offhand, but I would strongly suggest using IMAP rather that NFS to access remote mailboxes, especially INBOX! |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL/r/rt/IU4uTDdHNAQGZVAIAm+w6u2lCQ660TBFrwF3Q5MZeIH9zxrVM 8vo7JwEOFXuY42qevJza+JQgZfu4UfriltcoeAwvCuQ+lstpU6MpNQ== =ZBCU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 17:11:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09530; Wed, 5 Jul 95 17:11:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11408; Wed, 5 Jul 95 17:08:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11402; Wed, 5 Jul 95 17:08:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTeTK-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 17:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: clib@ub.d.umn.edu (UMD Library Lab) Subject: a CS prof thinks elm is better than pine!! Date: 5 Jul 1995 18:06:46 -0500 Message-Id: <3tf5u6$kkg@ub.d.umn.edu> Status: O X-Status: Please email dcrouch and tell him why you like pine, but dont include this email address. >From dcrouch@ub.d.umn.edu Wed Jul 5 17:59:11 1995 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 13:23:53 -0500 (CDT) From: donald crouch To: UMD Library Lab Cc: hgehring@ub.d.umn.edu Subject: Re: elm vs pine Thank you for the information. We prefer elm in the CS Department. d crouch > > > Hello > > Concerning CS1010... > > As consultants, we have found that pine is easier to use than elm. In > addition, Pine is the officially supported IS email package. > > -- > Library Computer Lab > 165 Library, 726-6549 > -- Library Computer Lab 165 Library, 726-6549 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 20:01:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14120; Wed, 5 Jul 95 20:01:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24702; Wed, 5 Jul 95 19:58:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24696; Wed, 5 Jul 95 19:58:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTh8H-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 19:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: an255297@anon.penet.fi Message-Id: <020519Z06071995@anon.penet.fi> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 01:59:28 UTC Subject: Pine hack needed Status: O X-Status: How can one forward mail using Pine if one does not have a shell account, just menu access. There is no way to do it through the menu options. Can one hack into the Pine configuration to do this. is there a way to get a .dot forward file into my account? Would appreciate any suggestions anyone might have. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi. If you reply to this message, your message WILL be *automatically* anonymized and you are allocated an anon id. Read the help file to prevent this. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin@anon.penet.fi. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 20:42:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15419; Wed, 5 Jul 95 20:42:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14205; Wed, 5 Jul 95 20:38:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14199; Wed, 5 Jul 95 20:38:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sThi1-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 20:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmlodoch@grape.epix.net (Rich Mlodoch) Subject: Intergraph Date: 6 Jul 1995 03:24:54 GMT Message-Id: <3tfl26$pdp@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: Has anybody out there ever compiled pine on an Intergraph workstation or server? -- *************************** Rich Mlodoch rwmlodoc@ingr.com <-- Work rmlodoch@epix.net <-- Play [ Insert clever tagline here ] *************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 21:21:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16173; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:21:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25856; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:18:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25850; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:18:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTiNT-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: Re: Getting pine integrated with pgp Date: 5 Jul 1995 22:18:49 GMT Message-Id: <3tf349$6d9@mippet.ci.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: pickerin@phoenix.sas.muohio.edu (Robert A. Pickering Jr.) writes: >The best thing I've found for integrating PGP with Pine is mkpgp. > >It's available on the cyberpunks ftp site at berkeley. > >-Rob > >J.M. Ivler (ivler@crl.com) wrote: >: Is there a FAQ, or a URL, that explains how to integrate pine with pgp? > >: Thanks. > >: jmi >: ivler@crl.com > >-- Could you please, tell me how to reach this cyberpunks ftp site at berkeley. I also need help about compiling pine in SCO UNIX 3.2v4.2, regarding libcrypt.a Our system doesn't have libcrypt.a. How could we get one ? Thanks & regards Ferry Winarta From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 21:21:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16214; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:21:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14658; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:18:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14652; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:18:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTiNX-00038EC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: Pine & PGP on SCO 3.2v4.2 Date: 5 Jul 1995 22:23:08 GMT Message-Id: <3tf3cc$6d9@mippet.ci.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 21:55:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17492; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:55:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26580; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:53:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26574; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:53:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTitV-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: possible to compartmentalized .pinerc info Date: 6 Jul 1995 04:35:04 GMT Message-Id: <3tfp5o$jp6@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: I use pine with different .pinerc files using `pine -p pinerc.special' and I'd like to be able to have some settings that I always use that I set in one file, e.g., pinerc.generic, and other files where I set different things differently depending on what I want to do, e.g., pinerc.special1, pinerc.special2, etc. Is there a way to do this? Thanks, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 22:41:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18538; Wed, 5 Jul 95 22:41:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15907; Wed, 5 Jul 95 22:38:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15901; Wed, 5 Jul 95 22:38:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTjZX-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 22:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: owner and group of pine folders Date: 6 Jul 1995 03:18:17 GMT Message-Id: <3tfklp$i79@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: I have a couple accounts on one system and I'd like to be able to access the mail folders in both these accounts using pine running on one of the accounts. When the folder is owned by the userid that's running the pine process, there's no problem. But if the folder is owned by another userid, pine is not able to open the folder, even if it has the same group as the userid running the process and has 660 permission, e.g.: -rw-rw---- 1 nancym mcgough blah blah blah folder1 -rw-rw---- 1 ii mcgough blah blah blah folder2 I'm able to look at both folder1 and folder2 using less or more but if I'm logged in as nancym and try to open folder2 using pine I get this message: [Not a folder: folder2] It would be great if the next release of pine would let me open a folder like this, but if you don't allow that it would be good to give a more informative error message, e.g. "Not owned by you." Thanks, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 00:55:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21252; Thu, 6 Jul 95 00:55:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29008; Thu, 6 Jul 95 00:49:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29002; Thu, 6 Jul 95 00:49:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTlfh-00038EC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 00:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mcdaniel@u.washington.edu (Henry McDaniel) Subject: Re: How do I stop Pine from justifing ASCII uploads? Date: 6 Jul 1995 07:33:54 GMT Message-Id: <3tg3l2$7hb@nntp5.u.washington.edu> References: <3t52am$jp0@news.annex.com> Status: O X-Status: neutrino@annex.com (DANIEL PRINCE) writes: >I like to compose some messages ofline and then do an ASCII upload of >them. When I do this in Pine (and Pico) it justifies all my paragraphs >together. Is there any way I can stop it from doing this? It takes a >lot of time to go in and separate my paragraphs and it shouldn't be >necessary. >Also is there a way to tell Pine that the delete key is not the same as >the backspace key. In all my other programs the delete key deletes the >character under the cursor. In Pine (and Pico) it does the same thing as >the backspace key and I keep deleting the wrong character. Hmm not sure. But I would almost bet you that if you use SHIFT-backspace it will delete. As to the justify problem: This may not work depending on your setup.. but if we're talking about UNIX, Upload your file to your directory (outside of pine) Startup pine, When in the header's area hit ctrl-r, go to the attachment's field. Enter the filename and path you uploaded. Bingo. -McDaniel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 01:48:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22847; Thu, 6 Jul 95 01:48:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18106; Thu, 6 Jul 95 01:44:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18100; Thu, 6 Jul 95 01:44:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTmUw-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 01:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chen@cis.pku.edu.cn (Dr. Ke CHEN) Subject: Urgent: wanted help. Date: 6 Jul 1995 09:41:58 GMT Message-Id: <3tgb56$v04@linuxguy.pku.edu.cn> Status: O X-Status: Hello: I have just installed the Popclient. Unfortunately, I cannot use it. As a result, I wonder if there is FAQ about the pop. If the answer is negative, would you please answer the following urgent questions: Q1: How to read an email in spool from the remote server using popclient? Q2: How to read an email in a file(e.g. mbox) from the remote server using popclient? Q3: How to use popclient to send an mail from the local machine but using the email account in the server? (E.g. I'm using the popclient in machine X and the server is machine Y. Whether or not do I use the popclient to send a mail with myname@Y.pku.edu.cn?) Thanks in advance. Best Regards, Ke Chen chen@cis.pku.edu.cn ~ P.S. Email response is prefered. ~ ~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 04:13:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26403; Thu, 6 Jul 95 04:13:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01922; Thu, 6 Jul 95 04:09:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01916; Thu, 6 Jul 95 04:09:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTomK-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 04:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: mail and news Web page Date: 6 Jul 1995 10:49:42 GMT Message-Id: <3tgf46$gb8@news1.halcyon.com> Status: O X-Status: I'm in the process of updating my Mail and News Web page and would appreciate feedback. I've got links to Pine's Web page, ftp directory, history page, and FAQ. It's at: http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/mail+news.html Please send me suggestions for improving it! Thanks, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 05:09:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27698; Thu, 6 Jul 95 05:09:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02560; Thu, 6 Jul 95 05:03:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [192.122.237.1] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02554; Thu, 6 Jul 95 05:03:27 -0700 Received: from NKU.EDU by NKU.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #2474) id <01HSJJTCKMX2CCI6IH@NKU.EDU>; Thu, 06 Jul 1995 08:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 06 Jul 1995 08:02:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Steffen Subject: Problem retaining SUBJECT on SENTMAIL To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: World-Wide Pine-Info, I have been experiencing a problem with losing the SUBJECT info in my SENTMAIL folder list and subsequent SAVES to other folders. Any ideas/suggestions how I can retain the SUBJECT description in SENTMAIL or is this a bug in Pine? ================================================================================ Jim Steffen, Network Manager Northern Kentucky University STEFFEN@NKU.EDU ================================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 07:48:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01199; Thu, 6 Jul 95 07:48:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22056; Thu, 6 Jul 95 07:45:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22050; Thu, 6 Jul 95 07:45:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTs9W-00038EC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 07:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wendy@babbage.cs.murdoch.edu.au (wendy Monk) Subject: PINE on AIX 1.3.1 Date: 6 Jul 95 13:44:05 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I am running AIX 1.3.1 on a PS/2 and would like to use pine. Is there any way to set up pine for this system? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 08:07:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01710; Thu, 6 Jul 95 08:07:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22321; Thu, 6 Jul 95 08:02:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from stallion.jsums.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22315; Thu, 6 Jul 95 08:02:58 -0700 Received: by stallion.jsums.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA09133; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 10:03:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 10:03:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Premnath Tirumalasetty To: UMD Library Lab Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: a CS prof thinks elm is better than pine!! In-Reply-To: <3tf5u6$kkg@ub.d.umn.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi folks: I think Pine has lot many features than ELM. I use both PINE 3.91 and ELM. PINE is more user-friendly compared to ELM. One can view all the commands on the menu in PINE. In ELM one needs to take help from a help list. But one good feature of ELM is that it works on VI editor. So, most of the VI commands can be used. Thanks. Premnath, T. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 08:50:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03052; Thu, 6 Jul 95 08:50:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23139; Thu, 6 Jul 95 08:46:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23133; Thu, 6 Jul 95 08:46:13 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 6 Jul 1995 16:42:25 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id QAA18219; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 16:47:59 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 16:47:59 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Premnath Tirumalasetty Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using "vi" within Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: In Pine 3.91 you can set up an "alternate editor" (such as "vi") which you can flip to (by typing Ctrl/_) whilst editing the message body. In fact you can even set a feature variable so that your alternate editor is invoked automatically as soon as you move the cursor down into the message text area. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Premnath Tirumalasetty wrote: > Hi folks: > > I think Pine has lot many features than ELM. I use both PINE 3.91 > and ELM. PINE is more user-friendly compared to ELM. One can view > all the commands on the menu in PINE. In ELM one needs to take help > from a help list. > > But one good feature of ELM is that it works on VI editor. So, most > of the VI commands can be used. > > Thanks. > > Premnath, T. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 09:00:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03496; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:00:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06013; Thu, 6 Jul 95 08:51:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06007; Thu, 6 Jul 95 08:51:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTt86-00038HC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 08:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: neutrino@annex.com (DANIEL PRINCE) Subject: Re: How do I stop Pine from justifing ASCII uploads? Date: 5 Jul 1995 19:24:49 GMT Message-Id: <3teou1$rma@news.annex.com> References: <3t52am$jp0@news.annex.com> Status: O X-Status: Chip Old (fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us) wrote: : On 2 Jul 1995, DANIEL PRINCE wrote: : > I like to compose some messages ofline and then do an ASCII upload of : > them. When I do this in Pine (and Pico) it justifies all my paragraphs : > together. Is there any way I can stop it from doing this? It takes a : > lot of time to go in and separate my paragraphs and it shouldn't be : > necessary. : : It would help to know what platform Pine is running on (UNIX? DOS?) and : how you're accessing it (dial-up?), but I'll guess it's on a UNIX box and : you're accessing it by dialing into a shell account. : : I do ASCII uploads into Pine fairly often and don't have that problem. : I suspect it is your telecomm software, not Pine, that is to blame. Some : telecomm software ignores lines containing only a CR during an ASCII : dump. In some telecomm software this is configurable, so check that : first. : : If that doesn't work, the trick is to make your "blank" lines actually : non-blank. Put a space character or two on each blank line. This will : still appear to be a blank line to the reader, but your computer will : treat it as a non-blank line. Most telecomm software will send such : lines unmodified. If that doesn't work, then put an unobtrusive character : (like a period) on each "blank" line. I use Telix to call a BBS that has Pine on a Unix box. I have Telix configured to expand blank lines (it adds a space). I have also tried it without expanding blank lines with the same results. I have even tried using THREE blank lines between each paragraph but it still justified them all together. The next thing I will try is changing the blank lines to 65 spaces. : : -------------------------------------------------------------------- : Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us : Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 : Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 : 320 York Road : Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 09:07:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04204; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:07:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06361; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:03:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dante.phs.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06353; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:03:43 -0700 Received: by dante.phs.com; id JAA24844; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 09:04:18 -0700 Received: from dcv31b.phs.com(149.111.1.5) by dante.phs.com via smap (g3.0.1) id sma024840; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:04:13 -0700 Received: from raven.phs.com by DCV31B.PHS.COM (PMDF V4.3-7 #4056) id <01HSJM30IL4G000RZJ@DCV31B.PHS.COM>; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 09:07:10 PDT Received: by raven.phs.com; (5.65/1.1.8.2/26Jun95-1111PM) id AA00443; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 09:03:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 06 Jul 1995 09:03:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hatz Subject: Copying messages BACK into [INBOX] To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: X-Envelope-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: I didn't see a meta-key for moving read messages back into the [INBOX]. Is there an easy way to do this? Thanks, Mike ===== "If I hear one more *&^%%$!!! journalist use the term 'Information Super Highway' I am going to throw up!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 09:25:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04939; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:25:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24124; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:21:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24110; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:21:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTtct-00038HC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josh@Wolfe.NET (Joshua_Putnam) Subject: Re: a CS prof thinks elm is better than pine!! Date: 6 Jul 1995 14:37:12 GMT Message-Id: <3tgsep$svp@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3tf5u6$kkg@ub.d.umn.edu> Status: O X-Status: In <3tf5u6$kkg@ub.d.umn.edu> clib@ub.d.umn.edu (UMD Library Lab) writes: >Please email dcrouch and tell him why you like pine, but dont include this >email address. I only wish I could use elm instead of pine! From a user's point of view elm is vastly superior, but it's such a pain in the ass to get it to compile that on this site I'm stuck with pine. I've gotten used to it by now, but it still does enough irritating things that I'd switch to elm instantly if given the choice. (My leading gripes: even setting the signature at end variable won't put my .signature after, rather than before, the text of forwarded mail, and pine won't insert signature dashes so I have to have a different .sig for pine than for the rest of the world. Plus I hate the number of menus and the counterintuitive key bindings: 'm' has meant compose mail in every mailer I've used since Mail, but now every time I hit m I end up staring at the main menu.) Not to dog on pine too much -- it's better than mush, at least. -- Josh@WOLFE.net is Joshua Putnam/P.O. Box 13220/Burton, WA 98013 "My other bike is a car." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 09:28:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05086; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:28:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07001; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:23:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06995; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:23:20 -0700 Received: (from michael@localhost) by linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA23074; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 09:22:17 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 09:22:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Schuyler To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using "vi" within Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > In Pine 3.91 you can set up an "alternate editor" (such as "vi") which you > can flip to (by typing Ctrl/_) whilst editing the message body. > > In fact you can even set a feature variable so that your alternate editor > is invoked automatically as soon as you move the cursor down into the > message text area. Not only that, there is no way to stop invoking alternate editor implicitly with pine.conf.fixed, and you can make a shell you editor, thus gaining access to a shell from a restricted menu! o o o o o o o . . . _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~LinkNet~~~~~~\_ o _____ | Kitsap Regional | | Support | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | Library | |'least we try! | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Support: (360) 405-9131 Fax:(360) 405-9128 support@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us Michael Schuyler: Voice:(360) 405-9139 michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 09:53:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06117; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:53:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07667; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:49:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from stallion.jsums.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07661; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:49:37 -0700 Received: by stallion.jsums.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA22433; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 11:50:09 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 11:50:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Premnath Tirumalasetty To: Mike Hatz Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Copying messages BACK into [INBOX] In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Its simple and tricky to do. Forward the mail to your own address. Premnath, T. On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Mike Hatz wrote: > I didn't see a meta-key for moving read messages back into the [INBOX]. > Is there an easy way to do this? > > Thanks, > > Mike > ===== > "If I hear one more *&^%%$!!! journalist use the term > 'Information Super Highway' I am going to throw up!" > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 09:56:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06223; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:56:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07756; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:53:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07750; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:53:27 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:49:52 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id RAA22668; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:55:03 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:55:03 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Michael Schuyler Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using "vi" within Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I don't think I agree with you on this... I've just tried adding the following to our "fixed" configuration file: feature-list=no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly, ...any other features you want to fix... The "no-" prefix indicates these feature-list values are to be forced "off" (omitting the "no-" forces a value on). Any feature-list values not listed in the "fixed" configuration file can be altered by the user; ones listed cannot. Doesn't this happen for you? (We're using Pine 3.91) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Michael Schuyler wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > In Pine 3.91 you can set up an "alternate editor" (such as "vi") which you > > can flip to (by typing Ctrl/_) whilst editing the message body. > > > > In fact you can even set a feature variable so that your alternate editor > > is invoked automatically as soon as you move the cursor down into the > > message text area. > > > Not only that, there is no way to stop invoking alternate editor > implicitly with pine.conf.fixed, and you can make a shell you editor, > thus gaining access to a shell from a restricted menu! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 09:58:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06279; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:58:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07798; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:55:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07792; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:55:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTuC7-00038HC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dek-leang-kwai Subject: Re: Using "vi" within Pine Date: 6 Jul 1995 15:58:08 GMT Message-Id: <3th16g$dgp@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi, Could you please solve word wrap problem? When cut text from other xterm and paste in pine then it wrap at col 75 and 75-80 col become junk on the other line. THANKS, zxc pmb1@mailer.york.ac.uk (Mike Brudenell) wrote: >In Pine 3.91 you can set up an "alternate editor" (such as "vi") which you >can flip to (by typing Ctrl/_) whilst editing the message body. > >In fact you can even set a feature variable so that your alternate editor >is invoked automatically as soon as you move the cursor down into the >message text area. > >Mike Brudenell >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK >Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > >On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Premnath Tirumalasetty wrote: > >> Hi folks: >> >> I think Pine has lot many features than ELM. I use both PINE 3.91 >> and ELM. PINE is more user-friendly compared to ELM. One can view >> all the commands on the menu in PINE. In ELM one needs to take help >> from a help list. >> >> But one good feature of ELM is that it works on VI editor. So, most >> of the VI commands can be used. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Premnath, T. -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 11:20:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10029; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:20:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26575; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:15:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26569; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:15:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTvRz-00038EC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dcoleman@shark.ece.utexas.edu () Subject: Re: a CS prof thinks elm is better than pine!! Date: 6 Jul 1995 15:21:12 GMT Message-Id: <3tgv18$mr0@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <3tf5u6$kkg@ub.d.umn.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article , Premnath Tirumalasetty wrote: >Hi folks: > >I think Pine has lot many features than ELM. I use both PINE 3.91 >and ELM. PINE is more user-friendly compared to ELM. One can view >all the commands on the menu in PINE. In ELM one needs to take help >from a help list. > >But one good feature of ELM is that it works on VI editor. So, most >of the VI commands can be used. Splunge. Here's what I like about pine: 1) Supports remote mailboxes via IMAP. 2) My wife can use it; doesn't have to learn cryptic VI commands. Here's what I like about elm: 1) Smaller, less code bloat (makes a difference on some old Sparcs we have with only 8M of RAM. :( 2) Doesn't include a newsreader (trn IMHO is the best NR out there, the one builtin to pine is slow and I never use it.) 3) OS/2 port available. So, for me, if elm directly supported POP or IMAP, I would prefer it, but it doesn't, so it's basically a tossup. Dan -- Daniel Matthew Coleman | Internet: dcoleman@mail.utexas.edu -----------------------------------+ coleman@uts.cc.utexas.edu The University of Texas at Austin | Electrical/Computer Engineering | http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~coleman/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 11:27:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10331; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:27:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10080; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:23:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10074; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:23:38 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27746; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:23:33 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 11:23:24 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: possible to compartmentalized .pinerc info In-Reply-To: <3tfp5o$jp6@news1.wolfe.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 6 Jul 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: > I use pine with different .pinerc files using `pine -p pinerc.special' > and I'd like to be able to have some settings that I always use that > I set in one file, e.g., pinerc.generic, and other files where I > set different things differently depending on what I want to do, > e.g., pinerc.special1, pinerc.special2, etc. Is there a way to > do this? > If you can do without the systemwide pine.conf file, use pine -P pinerc.generic -p pinerc.special |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL/wqIt/IU4uTDdHNAQGSRwH+OJEiRxHdbn6L3XRnolzdHxyLGUGGcG58 3tbibLvwI9U5TAT3gXleej7SvytG0Vpym6rbPehgdiyFLrLTRX2ASA== =tGHb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 11:35:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10794; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:35:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10250; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:32:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10244; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:32:01 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27926; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:31:48 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 11:31:40 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Premnath Tirumalasetty Cc: Mike Hatz , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Copying messages BACK into [INBOX] In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Even easier, Save the message to INBOX... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Premnath Tirumalasetty wrote: > Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 11:50:09 -0500 (CDT) > From: Premnath Tirumalasetty > To: Mike Hatz > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Copying messages BACK into [INBOX] > > Its simple and tricky to do. Forward the mail to your own address. > > Premnath, T. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Mike Hatz wrote: > > > I didn't see a meta-key for moving read messages back into the [INBOX]. > > Is there an easy way to do this? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mike > > ===== > > "If I hear one more *&^%%$!!! journalist use the term > > 'Information Super Highway' I am going to throw up!" > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL/wsEd/IU4uTDdHNAQHRhgH/RhAeZfKZ+hWWTuAXi9foSE2jarZe9vRt qw7+DG1/FtydnO4vhviUijwKnocW3jwaiIeIewtVhVa+Iwlb/KJxfA== =jmf6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 12:06:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12419; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:06:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10949; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:00:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10943; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:00:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTw95-00038EC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: csmith@cldc.howard.edu (Carl A. Smith) Subject: Pine source code? Date: 6 Jul 1995 17:48:49 GMT Message-Id: <3th7m1$g00@sulu.cldc.howard.edu> Status: O X-Status: -Where can I find the complete pine source code for version 3.91?? I would like to design a GUI for it. Or for 3.92 if it is to be released soon. Thank in advance. csmith ****************************************************************************** * * * If Jesus was the son of God.....and we are ALL God's children... * * then that makes Jesus a BROTHER. * * * * * * csmith@cldc.howard.edu * ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 12:10:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12643; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:10:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27792; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:07:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pluto.njcc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27786; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:07:34 -0700 Received: (from reichart@localhost) by pluto.njcc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA08012; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 15:07:33 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 15:07:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Reichart To: Pine Info Subject: Addressbook Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there any way to import a set of email addresses into my addressbook without retyping each and every one of them? ... Dick Reichart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 12:13:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12740; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:13:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11151; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:08:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11145; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:08:49 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id PAA07584 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 15:08:47 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA16531 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 15:08:10 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA00187; Thu, 6 Jul 95 15:04:10 EDT Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 15:04:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine 3.2 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, David L Miller wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hey, Piners. Please note that it isn't what Dave Miller wrote but what his header says. He's using Pine 3.92! It must be close. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 12:15:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12833; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:15:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27850; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:10:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27838; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:10:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTwGA-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dek-leang-kwai Subject: Re: Using "vi" within Pine Date: 6 Jul 1995 18:18:44 GMT Message-Id: <3th9e4$dgp@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <3th16g$dgp@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <3th7ce$3lt@news1.wolfe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: josh@Wolfe.NET (Joshua_Putnam) wrote: Thanks. I don't means any editor not vi and not pico. I means simple cut text from another xterm and put into pine. I have no problem when set automatic vi as editor. But this will slow down the process because I have to quit vi before sending mail by pine. BTW: where should I set :se wm=0 It doesn't exist in .pinerc THANKS, zxc >If you're referring to wrapping when using vi, that is controlled >by the vi configuration, not the pine configuration. Most >systems will set up vi with a polite right margin, wide enough >that quoted text won't start wrapping onto the next line. > >In any case, the vi variable involved is the wrapmargin, or wm. >It's the margin from the right, so the command > >:se wm=1 > >on an 80-column terminal will wrap lines after column 79. If you > >:se wm=0 > >then vi will stop auto-wrapping entirely. > >You can permanently configure vi by editing your .exrc to include >a line like > >set wrapmargin=X > >where X is whatever margin you prefer. > > >-- > >Josh@WOLFE.net is Joshua Putnam/P.O. Box 13220/Burton, WA 98013 > "My other bike is a car." -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 12:16:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12904; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:16:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11227; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:10:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11221; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:10:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTwI1-00038EC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: swald@cde2s.ssc.wisc.edu (Sandra Wald) Subject: Pine on VMS system Date: 6 Jul 1995 17:56:56 GMT Message-Id: <3th858$1ja8@news.doit.wisc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Does Pine compress automatically on the VMS? In regular MAIL on VMS you must delete and compress to free up the disk space. I was hoping that PINE was doing this automatically on VMS. sincerely, Sandra -- Sandra J. Wald swald@ssc.wisc.edu (608) 265-4922 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 13:07:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15881; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:07:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08351; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:00:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08345; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:00:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTx4k-00038EC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrea@pX1.stfx.ca (John Andrea) Subject: qi/cso links ? Date: 6 Jul 1995 12:49:15 -0300 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: When will we see hooks in pine to do address lookup via qi/cso servers ? I can think of one way to do it, like an address book item which contains the address of the cso server. I must admit that in pegasis mail that lookup feature, though tied to the novell username list, is quite handy -- __________________________________________________________________ John Andrea St. Francis Xavier Univ. University Computer Services Antigonish, NS, CANADA B2G 2W5 http://www.stfx.ca/people/jandrea/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 13:25:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16423; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:25:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12967; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:20:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12961; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:20:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTxNv-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean-Marc Wislez Subject: Reading archives on another computer Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:55:19 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: At the university, I use pine 3.91. When looking at my mail archives (containing both sent and received mail) there, the messages I received are labeled with the name of the sender in the index, while the messages I sent are indicated with "To: ...". While reading the archives at home (pine 3.91 on Linux), the messages I sent are indicated with my name, instead of "To: ...", as on that system, jmwislez@eduserv.rug.ac.be (my university address) is a stranger. How can I tell pine that I am both and , to be able to see the recipient in the index instead of my own name ? Please send any reply to , as I do not regularly check this newsgroup. Jean-Marc Wislez From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 13:43:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17281; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:43:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09403; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:40:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09395; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:40:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTxfK-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nandanwa@ta9.cs.uiuc.edu (Ajay Sudhanwa Nandanwar) Subject: Where to download pine from: for sparc m/cs. Date: 6 Jul 1995 20:27:45 GMT Message-Id: <3thh01$jos@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Some idea where to download pine from for sun sparcs!! Please send me mail directory as I don't read this newsgroup very often. thanks, -ajay -- Ajay S. Nandanwar, (E-mail: nandanwa@cs.uiuc.edu) Currently at Pittsburgh: Ph: (412)-338-2041 (O), 681-3382 (R). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 14:33:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19941; Thu, 6 Jul 95 14:33:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14512; Thu, 6 Jul 95 14:30:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14506; Thu, 6 Jul 95 14:30:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTyTu-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 14:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: glenn@dcs.uga.edu (Glenn Leavell) Subject: monthly moving of default-fcc stopped Date: 6 Jul 1995 19:42:45 GMT Message-Id: <3thebl$t7h@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> Status: O X-Status: I've been using Pine3.91 on an AIX 3.2.5 system for some time now. We've recently upgraded to AIX 4.1, and I'm not sure if that's causing the following problem or not. In the past, I've been automatically prompted on a monthly basis as to whether or not I'd like to move my default-fcc file to a file-mmm-yyy archive file. For the past two months, I've not received this prompt. I've searched the Pine FAQ and the Pine configuration screen, but I can't find anything that controls this (perhaps I'm missing something obvious). Does anyone know what might be causing this problem? Thanks! -- Glenn Leavell, glenn@uga.edu University of Georgia, University Computing and Networking Services From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 15:10:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21397; Thu, 6 Jul 95 15:10:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11209; Thu, 6 Jul 95 15:05:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11203; Thu, 6 Jul 95 15:05:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTyzU-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 15:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josh@Wolfe.NET (Joshua_Putnam) Subject: Re: Using "vi" within Pine Date: 6 Jul 1995 17:43:41 GMT Message-Id: <3th7ce$3lt@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3th16g$dgp@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Status: O X-Status: In <3th16g$dgp@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> dek-leang-kwai writes: >pmb1@mailer.york.ac.uk (Mike Brudenell) wrote: >>In Pine 3.91 you can set up an "alternate editor" (such as "vi") which you >>can flip to (by typing Ctrl/_) whilst editing the message body. >> >>In fact you can even set a feature variable so that your alternate editor >>is invoked automatically as soon as you move the cursor down into the >>message text area. >Could you please solve word wrap problem? >When cut text from other xterm and paste in pine >then it wrap at col 75 and 75-80 col become junk on the other line. If you're referring to wrapping when using vi, that is controlled by the vi configuration, not the pine configuration. Most systems will set up vi with a polite right margin, wide enough that quoted text won't start wrapping onto the next line. In any case, the vi variable involved is the wrapmargin, or wm. It's the margin from the right, so the command :se wm=1 on an 80-column terminal will wrap lines after column 79. If you :se wm=0 then vi will stop auto-wrapping entirely. You can permanently configure vi by editing your .exrc to include a line like set wrapmargin=X where X is whatever margin you prefer. -- Josh@WOLFE.net is Joshua Putnam/P.O. Box 13220/Burton, WA 98013 "My other bike is a car." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 15:28:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22214; Thu, 6 Jul 95 15:28:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15690; Thu, 6 Jul 95 15:25:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15684; Thu, 6 Jul 95 15:25:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTzJm-00038EC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 15:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mpapakhi@ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu (Mary Papakhian) Subject: /Mail/sent-lock Date: 6 Jul 1995 22:08:11 GMT Message-Id: <3thmsb$6uk@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Status: O X-Status: We have a user on our system who gets the error message error creating /Mail/sent-lock.mail no such folder or directory when he tries to send a mail message. The message does get sent, though. Shouldn't pine be trying to write to his Mail subdirectory rather than /Mail? Is there something I can change in his .pinerc to fix this? The workaround for now is to create /Mail--this prevents the displaying of the error message. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 16:09:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23958; Thu, 6 Jul 95 16:09:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12390; Thu, 6 Jul 95 16:05:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12384; Thu, 6 Jul 95 16:05:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTzvK-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 16:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: weave@hopi.dtcc.edu (Ken Weaverling) Subject: Re: ***address-loop-or-duplicate*** Date: 6 Jul 1995 18:57:23 -0400 Message-Id: <3thpoj$97t@hopi.dtcc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Don Hayward wrote: > >I have an address list made up entirely of people in the local domain. It >is my understanding that I need use only the userid of each party in the >list. This works, mostly. When I mail to the list, three of the >addresses in it fail and the MAILER_DAEMON mail failed message lists the >failed addresses in this form: > > ... illegal character in hostname > >How can this be corrected? case matters. If the addressbook is all lower case, and you enter the id in upper or mixed case, this happens. I corrected this by just putting the fully qualified address into the addressbooks. -- Ken Weaverling |*| Computer Services, Delaware Tech College weave@dtcc.edu |*| (My opinions are mine alone, I don't speak for the college) ================|*| http://www.dtcc.edu/~weave/ (Finger weave@hopi.dtcc.edu for PGP key, weave@ssnet.com for fingerprint) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 16:27:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24520; Thu, 6 Jul 95 16:27:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17247; Thu, 6 Jul 95 16:26:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17241; Thu, 6 Jul 95 16:25:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sU0HL-00038EC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 16:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: natkin@clark.net (Todd Natkin) Subject: Re: Using "vi" within Pine Date: 6 Jul 1995 20:52:53 GMT Message-Id: <3thif5$jd0@clarknet.clark.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: After setting the wrapmargin to 8 or so, you will probably want to reformat a paragraph since wrapmargin works only when the cursor moves past the selected column. The following mapping in your .exrc file will allow you to automatically reformat a paragraph: map ^O {!}fmt^M}j Give it a try. Remember the ^M must be entered as ^V^M to get a real ^M into the .exrc file. /Todd Natkin natkin@clark.net Mike Brudenell (pmb1@mailer.york.ac.uk) wrote: : In Pine 3.91 you can set up an "alternate editor" (such as "vi") which you : can flip to (by typing Ctrl/_) whilst editing the message body. : In fact you can even set a feature variable so that your alternate editor : is invoked automatically as soon as you move the cursor down into the : message text area. : Mike Brudenell : ------------------------------------------------------------------------ : The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK : Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ : On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Premnath Tirumalasetty wrote: : > Hi folks: : > : > I think Pine has lot many features than ELM. I use both PINE 3.91 : > and ELM. PINE is more user-friendly compared to ELM. One can view : > all the commands on the menu in PINE. In ELM one needs to take help : > from a help list. : > : > But one good feature of ELM is that it works on VI editor. So, most : > of the VI commands can be used. : > : > Thanks. : > : > Premnath, T. -- ======================================================================== Please "finger -l natkin@clark.net" for PGP public key & WWW home page ======================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 19:59:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01326; Thu, 6 Jul 95 19:59:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16551; Thu, 6 Jul 95 19:55:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tyrell.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16545; Thu, 6 Jul 95 19:55:55 -0700 Received: by tyrell.net id AA29923 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 6 Jul 1995 21:51:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 21:51:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Winders/Topeka-KS To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Windows Pine problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am using PC-Pine in Windows. After logging in with my internet service provider with Trumpet Winsock, I bring up PC-Pine. When I try to open "INBOX" pine asks for my login and password. Firstly, I don't think it should, since I am already logged in. Secondly, If I do type them in, Pine keeps telling me that they are in-correct. The newsgroups and the "update server" seem to work fine. Apparently I am doing something wrong (or not doing something right)... Help, and thanks in advance. Paul... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 20:59:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02750; Thu, 6 Jul 95 20:59:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22171; Thu, 6 Jul 95 20:56:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22165; Thu, 6 Jul 95 20:56:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sU4Sh-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 20:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu (Jim LeBay) Subject: Re: How do I stop Pine from justifing ASCII uploads? Date: 7 Jul 1995 02:08:05 GMT Message-Id: <3ti4u5$13iv@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <3t52am$jp0@news.annex.com> Status: O X-Status: DANIEL PRINCE (neutrino@annex.com) wrote: > I like to compose some messages ofline and then do an ASCII upload of > them. When I do this in Pine (and Pico) it justifies all my paragraphs > together. Is there any way I can stop it from doing this? It takes a > lot of time to go in and separate my paragraphs and it shouldn't be > necessary. Pine does the same thing to me, in a most impresive way. I usually run Pine 3.91 in a Terminal window on my NeXTstation, running NextStep 3.1. If I copy & paste text into the window running Pine (or Pico), the pasted text is automatically justified into a single large paragraph, regardless of any blank lines. The wierdest part happens if any following paragraphs are "too close". The pasted text "gobbles up" the existing text, and lines of each get mixed together, and then the whole thing gets justified. What a mess! This doesn't make any sense to me. Pasting text into a window should have the exact same results as typing it in, right? I've also found another way to reproduce this bug, for those of you who aren't lucky enough to use NextStep. Use any(?) IBM-PC vt100 terminal emulation program, login to your UNIX box, run Pine or Pico, and do an ASCII upload of a UNIX-format text file. I.e. text lines separated only by a single line-feed (0x0a), rather than DOS's normal CR-LF. ------ Jim LeBay (517) 353-1800 x143 353-5364 (FAX) Computing Information Center lebay@msu.edu Michigan State University lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu (NeXTmail) ---------- When I was a boy I was told that anybody could become President. Now I'm beginning to believe it. -- Clarence Darrow From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 21:44:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03785; Thu, 6 Jul 95 21:44:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17965; Thu, 6 Jul 95 21:41:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17959; Thu, 6 Jul 95 21:41:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sU5DZ-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 21:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: serpent@ssnet.com (Eric Lanier) Subject: TZ env variable in PINE Message-Id: <1995Jul7.022925.5702@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 02:29:25 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi, what is the env variable for TZ in pine? Please reply in email as I don't subscribe to this group, thanks. Eric -- |"I've heard that some people complain about the large||Still looking for;| |eyes and small noses and mouths in Japanese manga.But||BGC B-Club Special| |I don't see a whole lot of difference when I look at ||BGC #3-4-6 CDs | |Disney characters." -- Shirow MASAMUNE ||GunBuster LD set | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | http://http://www.art.net/Studios/Visual/Bianchi/gallery.html | | http://ssnet.com/~serpent/home.html Eric Lanier serpent@ssnet.com | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 22:51:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05362; Thu, 6 Jul 95 22:51:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23680; Thu, 6 Jul 95 22:46:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23674; Thu, 6 Jul 95 22:46:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sU6BK-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 22:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Farid Hamjavar Subject: Re: Will Pine 3.92 ever be created? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 22:52:35 -0600 Message-Id: References: <3sqeh4$t4j@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3sqeh4$t4j@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 28 Jun 1995, Thomas F. Steck wrote: > for a new version of pine? Especially one that includes a > true window (either X11, MS-Win, or Apple) interface. If a ^^^ Sometime ago there was a talk about a mail reader called Spruce to-be-built on top of PINE which would offer a true X11 GUI ... I don't see much talk about Spruce anymore! Farid hamjavar@unm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 02:23:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09979; Fri, 7 Jul 95 02:23:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26578; Fri, 7 Jul 95 02:20:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26572; Fri, 7 Jul 95 02:19:59 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 7 Jul 1995 10:15:02 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id KAA04962; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 10:20:33 +0100 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 10:20:33 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Don Sugarman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.2 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Doesn't necessarily follow... This has been commented on with previous not-yet-released version of Pine in the same circumstances. Just because they haven't *released* the next version to us lot doesn't mean they can't use it themselves to test it out. (I think the phrase "Alpha Testing" springs to mind? ;-) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Don Sugarman wrote: > > > On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > Hey, Piners. > > Please note that it isn't what Dave Miller wrote but what his header > says. He's using Pine 3.92! > > It must be close. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 05:32:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14545; Fri, 7 Jul 95 05:32:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29089; Fri, 7 Jul 95 05:28:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29083; Fri, 7 Jul 95 05:28:02 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id IAA07685; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 08:27:52 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA01306; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 08:27:48 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA02958; Fri, 7 Jul 95 08:26:26 EDT Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 08:26:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.2 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Doesn't necessarily follow... This has been commented on with previous > not-yet-released version of Pine in the same circumstances. Just because > they haven't *released* the next version to us lot doesn't mean they > can't use it themselves to test it out. (I think the phrase "Alpha > Testing" springs to mind? ;-) > That's what I figured, which is why I said it must be getting close. So, any idea how one becomes a Beta Tester? I'd be willing to ring it out. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 08:41:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18811; Fri, 7 Jul 95 08:41:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02061; Fri, 7 Jul 95 08:37:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02055; Fri, 7 Jul 95 08:37:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUFTM-00038CC; Fri, 7 Jul 95 08:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: neutrino@annex.com (DANIEL PRINCE) Subject: ASCII upload problem Date: 6 Jul 1995 20:12:08 GMT Message-Id: <3thg2o$7ek@news.annex.com> Status: O X-Status: I finally figured out why Pico was justifying everything I ASCII uploaded. It was because Telix was sending a CR LF at the end of each line. LF is the same as control J which is the command Pico uses for justify. One I told Telix to strip linefeeds everything worked correctly. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 09:18:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20534; Fri, 7 Jul 95 09:18:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03042; Fri, 7 Jul 95 09:15:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03036; Fri, 7 Jul 95 09:15:03 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29854; Fri, 7 Jul 95 09:12:18 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 09:11:59 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Don Sugarman Cc: Mike Brudenell , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.2 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Don Sugarman wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > Doesn't necessarily follow... This has been commented on with previous > > not-yet-released version of Pine in the same circumstances. Just because > > they haven't *released* the next version to us lot doesn't mean they > > can't use it themselves to test it out. (I think the phrase "Alpha > > Testing" springs to mind? ;-) > > That is basically correct. By this definition, Pine 3.92 went into Alpha a day or so after 3.91 was released. > That's what I figured, which is why I said it must be getting close. > > So, any idea how one becomes a Beta Tester? I'd be willing to ring it out. > Don Sugarman > sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com > If you support an architecture that we don't have here at UW and have the resources to make the necessary changes and send us patches fairly quickly, let me know. I'm not saying we are any where near ready to send anything out, but it would be nice to have a list when we need it... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL/1c39/IU4uTDdHNAQHsSQH+IsGdmAifXzob+s5Hi/O8+EfyqNGT+Wty 6uhaiYVAn8055oVxil8Dlpr/DOsMiEJlgJ/HrkjsNmu9U+c3SKaIfw== =tc75 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 09:19:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20615; Fri, 7 Jul 95 09:19:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03027; Fri, 7 Jul 95 09:14:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03019; Fri, 7 Jul 95 09:14:33 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29881; Fri, 7 Jul 95 09:14:31 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 09:14:24 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Farid Hamjavar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Will Pine 3.92 ever be created? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Last info I heard on this was that the author of SPRUCE had given up on the possibility of having time to continue the project... :( |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Farid Hamjavar wrote: > Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 22:52:35 -0600 > From: Farid Hamjavar > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Will Pine 3.92 ever be created? > > > > On 28 Jun 1995, Thomas F. Steck wrote: > > > for a new version of pine? Especially one that includes a > > true window (either X11, MS-Win, or Apple) interface. If a > ^^^ > > Sometime ago there was a talk about a mail reader > called Spruce to-be-built on top of PINE which would > offer a true X11 GUI ... I don't see much talk about > Spruce anymore! > > Farid > hamjavar@unm.edu > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL/1dZN/IU4uTDdHNAQEa2gH/Z2FIGobfen35rGwFU5ek4fwPhNdFLUlF zCSEHh1p9t5hVECyrPlLqDGgiEiEarENBLL7R1uaB66j2rorA/q+kg== =gWeo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 12:12:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28009; Fri, 7 Jul 95 12:12:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00121; Fri, 7 Jul 95 12:08:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00115; Fri, 7 Jul 95 12:08:36 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05947; Fri, 7 Jul 95 12:08:28 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 12:08:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Global Address Book File In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 5 Jul 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > [deleted] > > The solution is for the maintainer of the global address book to update > the look up file after any change. You can do this by logging into a > username with write access to the directory and file, and then: > > cd to the directory with the address book > pine -create_lu addrbookname sort-order > chmod go+r addrbookname.lu > > where "sort-order" is one of "dont-sort", "nickname", "fullname", > "nickname-with-lists-last" or "fullname-with-lists-last" (the same sort > orders available in the Setup Configuration screen for your personal > address book). > > REMEMBER to reset the protection of the new/modified look up file (the > "chmod" command above). I *always* get caught by this; Pine always > (re)creates it with no access to "group" or "others", so people can't > read it, so you *still* get the temporary versions being created in /tmp. I don't know if it will help you or not, but it actually uses the umask of the creator to decide what mode to make the new file. So, you could replace the chmod above by something which caused the umask to be 22 instead of 77. > [I'll e-mail the Pine Team separately asking if they can reuse the > protection of any existing look up file when updating it in some future > version of Pine.] Good idea. I'll add it in the next version. Thanks. > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 14:01:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02792; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:01:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09900; Fri, 7 Jul 95 13:56:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09894; Fri, 7 Jul 95 13:56:08 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06640; Fri, 7 Jul 95 13:56:06 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 13:55:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Kurt Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Dual Edged Sword In-Reply-To: <3spd17$mlo@news.paonline.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: You haven't given us much to go on... more details symptoms plus info on your installation, versions, OS flavor, comm software, and usage patterns would perhaps provide a starting point. -teg On Tue, 27 Jun 1995, Kurt wrote: > It sure is frustrating to have a fine program like PINE and PICO, with > no installation instructions- at least no *complete* installation > instructions. Sometimes PINE works, sometimes it doesn't... but MAIL > always works. Some of my PINE users get their mail, others only get > it sometimes... The screen often fills up with garbage when choosing > C to compose. > > Can anyone shed any light on this situation? I really want to use > PINE, it's much nicer than MAIL.... except it doesn't work reliably. > I have checked all the documentation at the FTP site, the web site, > and here on the USENET, to no avail.... > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 14:16:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03183; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:16:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02706; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:13:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02692; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:13:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUKgQ-00038EC; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Garry Petrie Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <1995Jul7.184045.22905@scic.intel.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 18:40:45 GMT Status: O X-Status: I get the following error compiling PINE on AIX3.2. Where is osdep.h? Please respond to me at gp@ssd.intel.com Thanks >build a32 make args are "CC=cc" Making c-client library, mtest and imapd make build SYSTYPE=ANSI OS=a32 echo a32 > OSTYPE rm -rf systype ln -s ANSI systype cd ANSI/c-client; make a32 ANSI/c-client: No such file or directory The error code from the last failed command is 1. Make Quitting. The error code from the last failed command is 2. Make Quitting. Making Pico Making Pine. Make: Do not know how to make ../c-client/osdep.h. Check that the target is defined in the description file and that the dependency files exist. Quitting. Links to executables are in bin directory: size: 0654-304 Cannot open bin/pine. size: 0654-304 Cannot open bin/mtest. size: 0654-304 Cannot open bin/imapd. bin/pico: 492 + 143724 + 148 + 20356 + 1536 + 124 + 9065 + 225317 = 400762 Done From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 14:26:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03589; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:26:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10569; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:23:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pluto.njcc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10562; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:23:51 -0700 Received: (from reichart@localhost) by pluto.njcc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA16143; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 17:23:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 17:23:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Reichart To: Pine Info Subject: Usenet List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I keep on getting references to usenet discussion groups which are not listed in my News-Collection list. What file is this list supposed to be reading? And how can I get it updated or corrected? Thanks for any help. ... Dick Reichart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 14:30:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03765; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:30:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10656; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:28:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10650; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:28:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUKtC-00038EC; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Randy Holder Subject: Re: Vacation! Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 15:40:46 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Simone, Sorry I took so long to respond - busy schedule. Start at the Unix Comp Prompt: 1) Type vacation 2) If it's your first time to use vacation, the program will display an editing screen (using the default editor - in most cases vi). 3) Make any changes that you want in your auto message text. 4) If you are using vi, type :Q 5) You will see the following prompt. You have a message file in /export/home2/shortcrs/short1/.vacation.msg Would You like to see it? 6) Answer Y if you would like to review the current message. 7) You will see the contents of the message followed by: Would you like to edit it? 8) Answer N if the message is ok. 9) You will see the following prompt: To enable the vacation feature a .forward file is created. Would you like to enable the vaction feature? 10)Answer y The vacation message is now enabled. Each person sending you mail gets a message back stating the contents of the message file that you created. To Disable the Vacation Message Remove or rename the .forward file. rm .forward or mv .forward .oldforward The vaction message is deactivated. Hope this helps. Randy Holder Electronic Mail Specialist University of Arkansas On Mon, 3 Jul 1995, Simone Shoemaker wrote: > In article you wrote: > : Vacation is a unix command that is normally issued from the unix prompt. > : It makes use of the forwarding function to send an automatic reply. > : (I suspect you are on a unix type system.) > > : Hope this helps, > > : Randy Holder > : E-Mail Support Specialist > : University of Arkansas > > > Hi Randy, > you wrote this in response to someone asking about vacation mailers - > would you be so kind to send me some more detailed info on how to set > that kind of automatic response up? I'd really appreciate it! > > I'm not particularily compurer-literate, so please explain in the > simplest terms possible. (I know what an Unix promt is, but that's about > the end of my working knowledge of Unix!) > > -- Simone Shoemaker > *************************************************************************** > Bronco Video >>> Producer of the FAMOUS ;-) cat lover's video > P.O.Box 343 "It's a Cat's Life!" > San Marcos, CA 92079 ...and some more serious stuff.<<< > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 16:01:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08224; Fri, 7 Jul 95 16:01:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04838; Fri, 7 Jul 95 15:58:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04832; Fri, 7 Jul 95 15:58:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUMI6-00038EC; Fri, 7 Jul 95 15:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: natkin@clark.net (Todd Natkin) Subject: Re: Using "vi" within Pine Date: 7 Jul 1995 16:14:31 GMT Message-Id: <3tjmh7$2ns@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: To anyone working on the next version of pine, perhaps it could be "fixed" so that if vi is selected as the default editor, then vi keystrokes are used =throughout= pine, including in the header/subject areas. It just seems rather awkward to keep mentally shifting from one set of editing keystrokes to another if one wishes to use vi in pine. Perhaps it is just a minor point, but after editing with vi for a while, I =always= first press x to delete instead of d. Thanks. /tn ======================================================================== Please "finger -l natkin@clark.net" for PGP public key & WWW home page ======================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 16:11:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08881; Fri, 7 Jul 95 16:11:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13016; Fri, 7 Jul 95 16:08:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13010; Fri, 7 Jul 95 16:08:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUMU8-00038CC; Fri, 7 Jul 95 16:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jmeddaug@cris.com (JOM) Subject: mailing list help Date: 7 Jul 1995 18:11:45 GMT Message-Id: <3tjtd1$70b@warp.cris.com> Status: O X-Status: I run a mailing list with Pine and the addressbook. Is there a way to make each message I say start with From: Commo Mailing List or similar? Thanks. -- Write for info about the Commo Mailing J.J. Meddaugh, Email: jmeddaug@cris.com list and Commo Music Player. Join alt.comp.blind-users today! Got any game shows on video? Write me. Check out the fun at Michi-Web: Author of the TC BBS List for Mid-Mich. http://www.cris.com/~jmeddaug From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 17:40:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13642; Fri, 7 Jul 95 17:40:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06997; Fri, 7 Jul 95 17:38:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06991; Fri, 7 Jul 95 17:38:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUNtA-00038EC; Fri, 7 Jul 95 17:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin Krause Subject: Pine and EWAN Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 12:30:34 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I want to use PINE with the windows' EWAN terminal emulator, but of EWAN's 3 configuration options (VT100, VT52, and ANSI) PINE recognizes none. Is there a way to make these two programs run together. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ . Kevin Krause /<------ Krause.4@nd.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 20:47:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17670; Fri, 7 Jul 95 20:47:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17977; Fri, 7 Jul 95 20:44:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17971; Fri, 7 Jul 95 20:44:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUQnk-00038CC; Fri, 7 Jul 95 20:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: (no subject) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 20:35:25 -0700 Message-Id: References: <1995Jul7.184045.22905@scic.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1995Jul7.184045.22905@scic.intel.com> Status: O X-Status: osdep.h is make as part of the build process. It looks like you do not have all of the Pine sources. Please get a new copy from ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Garry Petrie wrote: > I get the following error compiling PINE on AIX3.2. Where is osdep.h? > Please respond to me at gp@ssd.intel.com > > Thanks > > >build a32 > make args are "CC=cc" > > Making c-client library, mtest and imapd > make build SYSTYPE=ANSI OS=a32 > echo a32 > OSTYPE > rm -rf systype > ln -s ANSI systype > cd ANSI/c-client; make a32 > ANSI/c-client: No such file or directory > The error code from the last failed command is 1. > > Make Quitting. > The error code from the last failed command is 2. > > Make Quitting. > > Making Pico > > Making Pine. > Make: Do not know how to make ../c-client/osdep.h. > Check that the target is defined in the description file > and that the dependency files exist. > Quitting. > > Links to executables are in bin directory: > size: 0654-304 Cannot open bin/pine. > size: 0654-304 Cannot open bin/mtest. > size: 0654-304 Cannot open bin/imapd. > bin/pico: 492 + 143724 + 148 + 20356 + 1536 + 124 + 9065 + 225317 = 400762 > Done > > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 22:32:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20122; Fri, 7 Jul 95 22:32:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10400; Fri, 7 Jul 95 22:29:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10394; Fri, 7 Jul 95 22:29:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUSQl-00038EC; Fri, 7 Jul 95 22:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Srihari Gopal Subject: (no subject given) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 21:56:50 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello: I've just switched over to PINE from my previous mailer, which was ELM. Does anyone have any hints on how to convert my lengthy ELM e-mail aliases file into a PINE addressbook??? Thanks. -- Srihari Gopal, MD PGY-I Univ. of Illinois College of Medicine Department of Surgery gopal@uic.edu http://rwja.umdnj.edu/~gopal/sri.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 02:31:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24894; Sat, 8 Jul 95 02:31:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22472; Sat, 8 Jul 95 02:29:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22466; Sat, 8 Jul 95 02:29:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUVRo-00038kC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 01:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jude@omni.voicenet.com (Jude DaShiell) Subject: decoding mime attachments with pine Date: 8 Jul 1995 04:17:10 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: First is it possible inside of pine or do you have to export the message and then find a mime decoder somewhere else on the system? If it's possible to decode within pine what's the command to run on the message? -- jude From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 02:32:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24928; Sat, 8 Jul 95 02:32:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12945; Sat, 8 Jul 95 02:29:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12939; Sat, 8 Jul 95 02:29:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUVRu-00038lC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 01:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jude@omni.voicenet.com (Jude DaShiell) Subject: kill or twit files and pine Date: 8 Jul 1995 04:17:14 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Are these kind of files supported in pine for permanently erasing flame throwers from your in-bound usenet newsgroup articles? If not, it's something that imho should be considered for a new feature. -- jude From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 03:32:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26018; Sat, 8 Jul 95 03:32:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23178; Sat, 8 Jul 95 03:29:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23172; Sat, 8 Jul 95 03:29:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUWR6-00038jC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 02:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Addressbook Date: 8 Jul 1995 03:33:51 GMT Message-Id: <3tkuav$k3a@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Richard Reichart (reichart@pluto.njcc.com) wrote: : Is there any way to import a set of email addresses into my addressbook : without retyping each and every one of them? : ... Dick Reichart with the message on-screen type T which means something like 'take address' or whatever, then follow on-screen prompts (give it a 'nickname', whatever). Hope this helps. G'Day. /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ m j From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 08:48:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01551; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:48:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26870; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:40:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26862; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:40:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUbzV-00038WC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Clark Subject: Selecting News Groups Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 10:15:56 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi Is there a way in Pine to have the ^T option used to select newsgroups return to the list of groups after subscribing to a group? Right now, it puts me back in the folder list each time I subscribe to a group and then must retrieve the newsgroup list again. Thanks Jim **************************************************************************** James M. Clark (204) 786-9313 Department of Psychology (204) 786-1824 Fax University of Winnipeg clark@uwinnipeg.ca Winnipeg, Manitoba R3B 2E9 4L02A CANADA **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 08:50:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01624; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:50:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26917; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:45:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26911; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:45:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUc1i-00038jC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: serpent@ssnet.com (Eric Lanier) Subject: >>>>TIMESTAMP IN PINE<<<< Message-Id: <1995Jul8.150938.4501@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu> Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 15:09:38 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi, what is the correct TZ variable in PINE? Please reply in email as I don't subscribe to this group, thanks. Eric -- |"I've heard that some people complain about the large||Still looking for;| |eyes and small noses and mouths in Japanese manga.But||BGC B-Club Special| |I don't see a whole lot of difference when I look at ||BGC #3-4-6 CDs | |Disney characters." -- Shirow MASAMUNE ||GunBuster LD set | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | http://http://www.art.net/Studios/Visual/Bianchi/gallery.html | | http://ssnet.com/~serpent/home.html Eric Lanier serpent@ssnet.com | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 08:54:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01709; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:54:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16468; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:45:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16462; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:45:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUc1a-00038iC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: serpent@ssnet.com (Eric Lanier) Subject: >>>>TIMESTAMP IN PINE<<<< Message-Id: <1995Jul8.150933.4443@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu> Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 15:09:33 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi, what is the correct TZ variable in PINE? Please reply in email as I don't subscribe to this group, thanks. Eric -- |"I've heard that some people complain about the large||Still looking for;| |eyes and small noses and mouths in Japanese manga.But||BGC B-Club Special| |I don't see a whole lot of difference when I look at ||BGC #3-4-6 CDs | |Disney characters." -- Shirow MASAMUNE ||GunBuster LD set | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | http://http://www.art.net/Studios/Visual/Bianchi/gallery.html | | http://ssnet.com/~serpent/home.html Eric Lanier serpent@ssnet.com | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 09:03:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01864; Sat, 8 Jul 95 09:03:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27080; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:59:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27074; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:59:26 -0700 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA22012; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 08:59:21 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 08:59:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" To: Pine Mailing List Subject: Multiple "me's" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Someone brought this up quite a while back, but I don't recall seeing an answer on it from the good folks on the PINE team: I would like to be able to define myself as: joe@xxx.yyy joe1@yyyy.xxz etc, so that mail addressed to these addresses gets "+", as well as not being prompted for "reply to all recipients?" when one of them was me, and the other the sender. This shouldn't be too had for some coder out there to supply to the pine folks (I suppose I could, if my boss lets me have a little free time now and then) B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 09:15:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02181; Sat, 8 Jul 95 09:15:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16740; Sat, 8 Jul 95 09:10:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16734; Sat, 8 Jul 95 09:10:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUcOh-00038WC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 09:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: afr@aifbalpha (Andreas Frick) Subject: media types Date: 8 Jul 1995 15:29:57 GMT Message-Id: <3tm89l$dsf@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Hello pine users! Working for few weeks with pine some questions about pine's mime support are still unanswered. First of all, where gets pine its information about media types? Mosaic and netscape use mime.types files to determine the content type. But i couldn't find out how pine does this. I created my personal .maicaps and .mimetypes file and configured netscape to use it. So now a macintosh binhex file is indentified by netscape and proper decoded by mcvert. But pine still refuses to mark a macbinary file as application/applefile when attaching a macbinary (.bin) file to a mail in pine. Second, is there any possibility to force pine to use a special encoding dependent on the type of attachment? Many thanks and best regards Andreas -- Andreas Frick | University of Karlsruhe Research Assistant | AIFB E-mail: afr@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de | D-76128 Karlsruhe Phone: ++49-721-608-4751 | Germany From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 09:39:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02573; Sat, 8 Jul 95 09:39:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27535; Sat, 8 Jul 95 09:35:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27529; Sat, 8 Jul 95 09:35:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUcq0-00038WC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 09:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Richard Reichart Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: Addressbook Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 11:35:17 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199507080336.XAA21477@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > Richard Reichart (reichart@pluto.njcc.com) wrote: > : Is there any way to import a set of email addresses into my addressbook > : without retyping each and every one of them? > : ... Dick Reichart > > with the message on-screen type T which means something like 'take > address' or whatever, then follow on-screen prompts (give it a > 'nickname', whatever). Hope this helps. G'Day. > Dear Jonathan & DearOldDad [how old? - I'm 64.5]: Thanks for the response. However, I already knew about this feature of PINE. The real answer to my question (thanks to another helpful PINE-ist) is: figure out a way to download the _list_ of names/addresses [for example, one which was included in the BODY of an email message, or one which was set up on another system] into a file which you can edit so that the form of each line is: nicknamerealnameemailaddress and then append this file to your .addressbook file. I did this fairly quickly with a list of 20 or so, altho it took a bit of workaround using my favorite DOS editor plus PICO. The real trick when using computers is to figure out how to get the system to do as much of the work as possible. Retyping email addressses is guaranteed to generate new errors. ... Dick Reichart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 11:49:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05123; Sat, 8 Jul 95 11:49:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18377; Sat, 8 Jul 95 11:46:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18371; Sat, 8 Jul 95 11:46:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUeqo-00038WC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 11:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pbarney@norden1.com (Peter Barney) Subject: Digesting mail? Date: 8 Jul 1995 18:24:10 GMT Message-Id: <3tmiga$ltf@news1.channel1.com> Status: O X-Status: I can't seem to get Pine to digest a mail bundle. When I press |, it says that this key is not defined on this screen, or something to that effect. I've tried it from both the message index and when reading the actual message. Is there something that I'm missing. Please help! I don't want to have to go back to Elm! Btw, please mail your replies. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Peter Barney | pbarney@norden1.com | Voice (419) 478-9845 | Do or do not ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 11:59:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05314; Sat, 8 Jul 95 11:59:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29264; Sat, 8 Jul 95 11:55:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29258; Sat, 8 Jul 95 11:55:55 -0700 Received: (from kneustad@localhost) by PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.11) id OAA06025; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 14:55:19 -0400 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 14:55:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kathleen D. Neustadt" Reply-To: "Kathleen D. Neustadt" Subject: Re: >>>>TIMESTAMP IN PINE<<<< To: Eric Lanier Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <1995Jul8.150938.4501@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Try this: Packet Drivers Pine needs to be made aware of the PC's net- work configuration file. Simply edit the file WATTCP.CFG included in the Pine distri- bution. The file includes 5 configuration settings--IP-address, gateway, netmask, nameserver(s) and domainslist. If you have a network configuration file for NCSA Telnet then WATTCP.CFG is just a pared down version of the CONFIG.TEL file you already made. Take a look at CONFIG.TEL to find the correct settings for WATTCP.CFG. Once the configura- tion file is made, the DOS environment vari- able WATTCP.CFG needs to point at it. For example: set WATTCP.CFG=C:\PINE In addition to networking software issues, you might need to worry about setting the time zone. PC-Pine includes the time zone as part of outgoing email. There is a generic way for PC applications to get the time zone, but, because PC-Pine is one of a very few applications which requires this information, time zone might not be previously configured. The trick is to add an environment variable, TZ, to your PC's AUTOEXEC.BAT file. The format for the TZ environment variable is as follows: ZZZ[+H]H[:MM:SSTTT] First is the 3-letter code for your standard time, then a "+" or a "-" for direction of offset from GMT, then the amount of offset (hours, minutes, seconds) and finally the 3-letter code for your summer- or daylight savings time. Everything in [] brackets is optional. The default time zone is "PST-8PDT" (U.S. Pacific Time). Coincidentally, Microsoft is headquartered in that time zone. As an example, people in the Eastern part of the US should add this line to their AUTOEXEC.BAT files: TZ=EST-5EDT Kathy Neustadt kneustadt@pigseye.kennesaq.edu On Sat, 8 Jul 1995, Eric Lanier wrote: > > Hi, what is the correct TZ variable in PINE? Please reply in email as I don't > subscribe to this group, thanks. > > Eric > > -- > |"I've heard that some people complain about the large||Still looking for;| > |eyes and small noses and mouths in Japanese manga.But||BGC B-Club Special| > |I don't see a whole lot of difference when I look at ||BGC #3-4-6 CDs | > |Disney characters." -- Shirow MASAMUNE ||GunBuster LD set | > |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| > | http://http://www.art.net/Studios/Visual/Bianchi/gallery.html | > | http://ssnet.com/~serpent/home.html Eric Lanier serpent@ssnet.com | > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 12:05:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05532; Sat, 8 Jul 95 12:05:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29369; Sat, 8 Jul 95 12:03:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29363; Sat, 8 Jul 95 12:03:02 -0700 Received: (from kneustad@localhost) by PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.11) id PAA06143; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 15:02:51 -0400 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 15:02:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kathleen D. Neustadt" Subject: Re: Multiple "me's" To: "Brian P. Hampson" Cc: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You can pass parameters to Pine when starting it. An example is: pine -p file Uses the named file as the personal configuration file instaed of ~/pinerc. pine -P file will override the system configuration. pine -option=value assign value to the confg option option. Look and/or do a more or a man on .profile The first line say MAIL=user/mail$ Then check out the .pirnerc file and the variable personal-name. That should do it for you. Kathy Neustadt kneustadt@pigseye.kennesaq.edu On Sat, 8 Jul 1995, Brian P. Hampson wrote: > > Someone brought this up quite a while back, but I don't recall seeing an > answer on it from the good folks on the PINE team: > > I would like to be able to define myself as: > > joe@xxx.yyy > joe1@yyyy.xxz > > etc, so that mail addressed to these addresses gets "+", as well as not > being prompted for "reply to all recipients?" when one of them was me, > and the other the sender. > > This shouldn't be too had for some coder out there to supply to the pine > folks (I suppose I could, if my boss lets me have a little free time now > and then) > > B. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | > |System Administrator, | > |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | > |Vancouver, BC | > |+604-253-4188 | > | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | > | | > ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 13:03:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06736; Sat, 8 Jul 95 13:03:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00123; Sat, 8 Jul 95 12:56:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00117; Sat, 8 Jul 95 12:56:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUfvo-00038WC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 12:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Pollak Subject: Taking Addresses for Distribution Lists Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 15:45:22 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there any way to do it automatically? That is, to add new addresses to existing lists without having to type them in again? __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 13:39:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07459; Sat, 8 Jul 95 13:39:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00611; Sat, 8 Jul 95 13:34:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from chase.times.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00605; Sat, 8 Jul 95 13:34:26 -0700 Received: by chase.times.net (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0sUgWL-0002mSC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:30 EDT Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 16:30:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Fonger To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: "Message shrank" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I sometimes get this message when trying to save mail to a specific folder other than my inbox. How can I avoid this? Rick Fonger rfonger@times.net Systems Administration 1-905-775-4471 (Voice) Times.net 1-905-775-4489 (Fax) 32 Holland St.E., Bradford, Ontario, Canada L3Z 2B8 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 16:24:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10458; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:24:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02771; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:21:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02765; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:21:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUjAC-00038ZC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Digesting mail? Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 19:18:22 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3tmiga$ltf@news1.channel1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3tmiga$ltf@news1.channel1.com> Status: O X-Status: On 8 Jul 1995, Peter Barney wrote: | I can't seem to get Pine to digest a mail bundle. When I press |, it says | that this key is not defined on this screen, or something to that effect. | I've tried it from both the message index and when reading the actual | message. Is there something that I'm missing. | | Please help! I don't want to have to go back to Elm! From the Main Menu (provided you are using version 3.91), go into Setup / Configuration and enable-unix-pipe-command (or however it is exactly worded). This should allow you to pipe a message. I don't know about a whole folder at once (although a folder is a file in itself). Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 16:25:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10493; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:25:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21223; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:21:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21217; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:21:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUj9r-00038WC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Taking Addresses for Distribution Lists Date: 8 Jul 1995 23:19:27 GMT Message-Id: <3tn3pv$gqs@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Michael Pollak (mpollak@panix.com) wrote: : Is there any way to do it automatically? That is, to add new addresses to : existing lists without having to type them in again? : Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com With the message on-screen type T to 'take address' then follow on-screen prompts like give it a nickname, etc. It will add it to your addressbook. G'Day. /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ m j From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 16:33:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10634; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:33:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21321; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:31:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21315; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:31:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUjLW-00038WC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: cmsg cancel <3tn3pv$gqs@grape.epix.net> Control: cancel <3tn3pv$gqs@grape.epix.net> Date: 8 Jul 1995 23:23:24 GMT Message-Id: <3tn41c$gqs@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 17:24:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11580; Sat, 8 Jul 95 17:24:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03466; Sat, 8 Jul 95 17:21:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03460; Sat, 8 Jul 95 17:21:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUk5i-00038WC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 17:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Tompkins Subject: Re: How do I stop Pine from justifing ASCII uploads? Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 19:52:46 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3t52am$jp0@news.annex.com> <3teou1$rma@news.annex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3teou1$rma@news.annex.com> Status: O X-Status: On 2 Jul 1995, DANIEL PRINCE wrote: > I like to compose some messages ofline and then do an ASCII upload of > them. When I do this in Pine (and Pico) it justifies all my paragraphs > together. Is there any way I can stop it from doing this? It takes a > lot of time to go in and separate my paragraphs and it shouldn't be > necessary. It's your communications software that's doing this to you. I have had the problem with Telix, but not with Hayes SmartCom. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 20:15:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13847; Sat, 8 Jul 95 20:15:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23298; Sat, 8 Jul 95 20:12:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23292; Sat, 8 Jul 95 20:12:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUmm6-00038WC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 20:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ted@itsa.ucsf.edu (Ted Eytan) Subject: IMAP Client for Mac - {Eudora?} Date: Sat, 08 Jul 1995 14:01:29 -0700 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: To anyone knowledgeable about IMAP/POP servers: I have been using Mac Eudora successfully on POP-equipped machines for a few years now at various instututions. I have just moved to Seattle, and find that the U of Washington does not seem to support POP and uses IMAP instead. I had thought that POP was standard. I am seeking advice on a good IMAP client (ideally, a Eudora-esque, or even an IMAP-Eudora) and any information about IMAP vs. POP. I have investigated Mailstrom which seems pretty antiquated (the U distributes v. 1.05), and pine causes me to use up too much time over dialup lines. Any advice is greatly appreciated, feel free to email me personally. Ted Eytan Group Health Cooperative of Puget Sound Seattle, WA ted1@u.washington.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 22:45:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16387; Sat, 8 Jul 95 22:45:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07064; Sat, 8 Jul 95 22:42:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07058; Sat, 8 Jul 95 22:42:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUp4I-00038WC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 22:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: The Law Source Subject: listserv/pine problem Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 01:19:18 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: When I send messages to a mailing list I subscribe to, my name doesn't appear in the index like everybody else's. Instead it says "To multiple recipients" etc. How can I fix this? Please mail any responses to the address below. Art Johnson afn19689@freenet.ufl.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 01:17:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19098; Sun, 9 Jul 95 01:17:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26170; Sun, 9 Jul 95 01:14:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26164; Sun, 9 Jul 95 01:14:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUqYu-00039qC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 00:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Pollak Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: Taking Addresses for Distribution Lists Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 03:07:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: <199507082314.TAA01233@peach.epix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199507082314.TAA01233@peach.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ On Sat, 8 Jul 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > > Michael Pollak (mpollak@panix.com) wrote: > > : Is there any way to do it automatically? That is, to add new addresses to > : existing lists without having to type them in again? > : Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com > > With the message on-screen type T to 'take address' then follow on-screen > prompts like give it a nickname, etc. It will add it to your addressbook. > G'Day. That part I know. I don't want to add them to my addressbook. I want to add them to distribution lists that are already in my addressbook. I want to be able to invoke the "Z" command inside the "T" command. __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 09:36:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27814; Sun, 9 Jul 95 09:36:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00967; Sun, 9 Jul 95 09:31:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00961; Sun, 9 Jul 95 09:31:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUxqp-00039SC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 08:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: susanmay@netaxs.com (Hole Mailing List) Subject: How to forward mail? Date: 9 Jul 1995 14:38:47 GMT Message-Id: <3topln$qjf@netaxs.com> Status: O X-Status: How do I configure pine to forward mail to a different email address?? ...................................... HoLe LoTTa LoVe- the Hole Mailing List Susan May- maintainer susanmay@netaxs.com ...................................... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 13:24:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02442; Sun, 9 Jul 95 13:24:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17419; Sun, 9 Jul 95 13:21:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17413; Sun, 9 Jul 95 13:21:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV1MT-00039LC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 11:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chafallo Subject: Signature at bottom... Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 12:21:21 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have tried...God have I tried!! to put a signature at the bottom of all my messages; you know, those cute little drawings and such that appear automatically at the bottom of messages. Well... I've typed S (for set up) the C (for configuration), got to "signature at bottom" I have read and *follow* the instructions obtained by pressing help(?)...Used Pico, wrote a coouple of lines and an inspiring quote from "Don Quijote" and saved to the file "signature", checked (again) the signature at bottom feature and... nothing, nothing, nothing!... Could anubody please help me before I destroy my computer and modem? Thank you very much! Simply signed Chafallo From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 14:10:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03090; Sun, 9 Jul 95 14:10:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03776; Sun, 9 Jul 95 14:08:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03770; Sun, 9 Jul 95 14:08:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV1zS-00039TC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 12:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rivaud@rain.org Subject: Re: How to forward mail? Date: 9 Jul 1995 19:04:45 GMT Message-Id: <3tp98d$34o@news.rain.org> References: <3topln$qjf@netaxs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: In your home directory create a file named .forward and it it put the line username@site.name Where username is your login ID for your new site and where site.name is the name of the site where your login ID is. This can be used for many mail programs. At my site the above would be accomplished by doing the following at the unix command line, while in my home directory: touch .forward edit .forward username@site.name [then save and close the file.] There are more complicated ways to do this, such as using procmail. For information regarding this type man forward from the unix prompt. Or for info on procmail type man procmail From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 14:37:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03555; Sun, 9 Jul 95 14:37:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18300; Sun, 9 Jul 95 14:34:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18294; Sun, 9 Jul 95 14:33:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV2UC-00039MC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 12:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Signature at bottom... Date: 9 Jul 1995 19:46:56 GMT Message-Id: <3tpbng$i9v@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Chafallo (hruiz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu) wrote: : I have tried...God have I tried!! to put a signature at the bottom of : all my messages; you know, those cute little drawings and such that appear : automatically at the bottom of messages. Well... I've typed S (for set : up) the C (for configuration), got to "signature at bottom" I have read and : *follow* the instructions obtained by pressing help(?)...Used Pico, wrote a : coouple of lines and an inspiring quote from "Don Quijote" and saved to the : file "signature", checked (again) the signature at bottom feature and... : nothing, nothing, nothing!... : Could anubody please help me before I destroy my computer and modem? : Thank you very much! : Simply signed : Chafallo Yup, simple ... the filename should be .signature (not signature); The . is important. G'Day. /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ m j From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 14:44:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03708; Sun, 9 Jul 95 14:44:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04147; Sun, 9 Jul 95 14:43:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04141; Sun, 9 Jul 95 14:43:22 -0700 Received: (from kneustad@localhost) by PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.11) id RAA26133; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 17:43:17 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 17:43:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kathleen D. Neustadt" Subject: Offline reading To: Chafallo Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: If anyone has an idea, I would love it. I have read and read an just seem to get deeper. I dial in from a DOS machine to a unix server (home to school). I then use pine (version 3.89) to read and write. I want to be able to dial in, collect my mail, get off and read/reply without tying up my phone line or the school's. I have read about PPP and SLP but don't know how to tell if we even have that. I have printed the Unix manual pages for mail, mailx, write, sendmail, environ and still can't find it. I have also heard the term SOUP. I do this on other BBS's using .QWK packs. It has allowed me to writed scripts to dial in at 2am and pick up/deliver mail all over. Thanks K. Neustadt kneustadt@pigseye.kennesaq.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 15:17:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04292; Sun, 9 Jul 95 15:17:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04463; Sun, 9 Jul 95 15:15:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04457; Sun, 9 Jul 95 15:15:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV2x5-00039hC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 13:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: swartz@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Solo) Subject: Help! Why the debugs? Date: 9 Jul 1995 19:52:28 GMT Message-Id: <3tpc1s$h9q@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Status: O X-Status: Anybody know how to suppress the .pine-debug# that pine keeps creating in my home directory? It makes debugs numbered 1-4, then stops. Why does it do this, and is there a way to turn it off? Thanks Mark Swartz swartz@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 16:10:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05153; Sun, 9 Jul 95 16:10:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04945; Sun, 9 Jul 95 16:07:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04939; Sun, 9 Jul 95 16:07:19 -0700 Received: (from kneustad@localhost) by PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.11) id TAA27301; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 19:07:15 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 19:07:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kathleen D. Neustadt" Subject: Re: Help! Why the debugs? To: Solo Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <3tpc1s$h9q@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: According the to the Pine Documentation, there should be these four files. kneustadt@pigseye.kennesaq.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 17:41:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06781; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:41:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20572; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:39:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20566; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:39:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV5Kh-00039dC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 16:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tknab@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Terry Knab) Subject: Re: French version of pine? Date: 9 Jul 1995 16:02:07 -0600 Message-Id: <3tpjkv$mtk@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <3tc9gq$rmj@Owl.nstn.ca> Status: O X-Status: nstn1421 (nstn1421@fox.nstn.ca) wrote: : Does anyone know if there is a French version of pine? And if so where : would one get its source? : Rick Berger Well, if it comes down to it, it wouldn't be all *that* hard to convert pine into another language. With a little help, a version could easily be made. If anyone wants a french or spanish version, I will write one. Terry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 17:41:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06808; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:41:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05891; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:39:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05885; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:39:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV5K6-00039aC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 15:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tknab@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Terry Knab) Subject: Re: mailing list help Date: 9 Jul 1995 16:07:46 -0600 Message-Id: <3tpjvi$ocv@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <3tjtd1$70b@warp.cris.com> Status: O X-Status: JOM (Jmeddaug@cris.com) wrote: : I run a mailing list with Pine and the addressbook. Is there a way to : make each message I say start with : : From: Commo Mailing List : or similar? Thanks. There is a simple way to do this. Just set your personal name using Pine's config feature. just set it to Commo Mailing list. Terry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 17:41:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06842; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:41:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20556; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:39:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20550; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:39:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV5Hj-00039PC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 15:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Signature at bottom... Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 18:45:14 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 9 Jul 1995, Chafallo wrote: | Used Pico, wrote a | coouple of lines and an inspiring quote from "Don Quijote" and saved to the | file "signature", checked (again) the signature at bottom feature and... | nothing, nothing, nothing!... If you are on a Un*x system, your signature file should be named precisely ".signature", not "signature". Note the leading period. This is the default in the Un*x world. Also, it usually resides in your home directory. However, with Pine, you may go into the configuration and give your signature file another name. Check to make sure everything is in synch. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 17:48:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06964; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:48:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20639; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:47:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20633; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:47:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV5Ti-00039nC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 16:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joshua Hosseinoff Subject: Re: Any known problems with pico and AIX 3.2? Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 15:08:44 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3tec1b$cs4@news.paonline.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3tec1b$cs4@news.paonline.com> Status: O X-Status: This is the typical linking with curses problem on AIX, just link it with termcap instead of curses and find yourself a decent termcap file and you're all set. On Wed, 5 Jul 1995, Kurt wrote: > miotto@ues7.cern.ch (Alessandro Miotto) wrote: > >I have no core or pine-debug information yet so I would like to understand > >whether similar behaviours are already known before investigating further. > > >- In another session pico kept pasting the same buffer over and over until > > it was killed by hand. The text was saved into the postponed messages > > folder, and when restarted pine asked whether the user wanted to resume > > composition. After typing "yes" the program crashed. > > > Alessandro > > I have had pine crash under AIX 3.2.0 when choosing C to compose a new > message, and also when choosing C to continue composing an interrupted > message. When it crashes, it squirts reversed question marks and > other bizzarre characters onto the terminal, then hangs. I have to > kill pine from another terminal... > > Kurt Risser > Snider Bolt, Louisville, KY USA 502 968-2250 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 17:49:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07017; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:49:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05972; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:47:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05966; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:47:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV5Qg-00039hC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 16:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dcherson@world.std.com (David Cherson) Subject: "empty" print buffer Message-Id: Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 22:21:45 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have a periodic problem in connection to printing. After I issue the (Y) print attached message command, sometimes my printer will form feed a 'blank', i.e., what seems to be an empty print buffer. Any clues? Thanks, d.c. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 18:32:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07721; Sun, 9 Jul 95 18:32:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06384; Sun, 9 Jul 95 18:29:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06378; Sun, 9 Jul 95 18:29:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV5y7-00039TC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 16:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: summer@sojourn1.sojourn.com (Alan Summer) Subject: Signature Help Needed Date: 9 Jul 1995 23:05:26 GMT Message-Id: <3tpnbm$q4e@tkhut.sojourn.com> Status: O X-Status: I have a copy of the Pine user-guide, but it does not answer my question of how, to establish a signature for my e-mail. Can someone help? Is there other documentation available at the U of W that will help? Thanks Skip Summer summer@sojourn.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 20:01:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09241; Sun, 9 Jul 95 20:01:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22235; Sun, 9 Jul 95 19:59:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22229; Sun, 9 Jul 95 19:59:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV7Nx-00039YC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 18:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmeddaug Subject: Re: mailing list help Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 20:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: References: <199507091437.KAA13690@unix2.netaxs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199507091437.KAA13690@unix2.netaxs.com> Status: O X-Status: Hmmm. That'll work but mail to the list isn't addressed separately and I get normal mail in the same session. Write for info about the Commo Mailing J.J. Meddaugh, Email: jmeddaug@cris.com list and Commo Music Player. Join alt.comp.blind-users today! Got any game shows on video? Write me. Check out the fun at Michi-Web: Author of the TC BBS List for Mid-Mich. http://www.cris.com/~jmeddaug From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 20:40:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10087; Sun, 9 Jul 95 20:40:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07578; Sun, 9 Jul 95 20:38:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07572; Sun, 9 Jul 95 20:38:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV9Qh-00039IC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 20:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Srihari Gopal Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 14:25:48 +0000 Subject: [Q] How to set up mail aliases? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello, I posted a message the other day regarding converting ELM aliases to PINE addressbook. I was also wondering how to format multiple addresses into one alias on PINE. For example, I maintain a list of about 30 people whom I mail to reguarly, all located on my old ELM alias called "list1", how do I format this list into my PINE addressbook?? In ELM, I would simple do the following: list1 = list1 Srihari Gopal, MD PGY-I Univ. of Illinois College of Medicine Department of Surgery gopal@uic.edu http://rwja.umdnj.edu/~gopal/sri.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 21:09:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10630; Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:09:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23002; Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:06:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22996; Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:06:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVA1A-00038CC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pbarney@norden1.com (Peter Barney) Subject: Digesting mail. Date: 10 Jul 1995 03:33:56 GMT Message-Id: <3tq734$pna@news1.channel1.com> Status: O X-Status: Thanks to everyone who answered my question about making the pipe command work. Now another question: When I pipe to "digest", like I was doing with Elm, imagine my surprise when the Pine view screen came back with a message that looked like _Elm's_ message index! Well, I dropped to the shell and typed "digest", and it said that I should only run it from Elm. Apparently, there are different programs for digesting with different mail readers. Could you point me to a digester for Pine? Thanks in advance! Also, please mail your replies. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Peter Barney | pbarney@norden1.com | Voice (419) 478-9845 | Do or do not ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 21:56:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11469; Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:56:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08337; Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:55:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08331; Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:55:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVAou-00038CC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "John Waters - @ring.com" Subject: {Q} Can pine be set to forward mail? Date: 10 Jul 1995 04:41:20 GMT Message-Id: <3tqb1g$pg6@unix.tpe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: How can we set pine to forward mail to a different address? Can't find anything in the online docs. ..... unless we are really just missing it! Thanks ... -- ********************************************************************** Michigan's Electronic Magazine(c) http://www.ring.com/michigan.html telnet://ring.com Local access 810-698-9441 ftp://ftp.ring.com Bed & Breakfast Writer's Contest! Information in the Travel Section! *********************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 22:17:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11899; Sun, 9 Jul 95 22:17:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23846; Sun, 9 Jul 95 22:15:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23840; Sun, 9 Jul 95 22:15:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVB7k-00038CC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 22:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: swartz@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Solo) Subject: Re: Help! Why the debugs? Date: 10 Jul 1995 04:30:31 GMT Message-Id: <3tqad7$gue@news.ccit.arizona.edu> References: <3tpc1s$h9q@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Status: O X-Status: For some reason Solo wrote: ? Anybody know how to suppress the .pine-debug# that pine keeps creating in ? my home directory? It makes debugs numbered 1-4, then stops. Why does ? it do this, and is there a way to turn it off? Thanks Thanks for all the reply's. I got it to stop making the debugs by using the -d0 switch. Thanks for the help. Mark Swartz swartz@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 23:03:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12737; Sun, 9 Jul 95 23:03:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08971; Sun, 9 Jul 95 23:00:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08965; Sun, 9 Jul 95 23:00:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVBoy-00038CC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 22:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gerald G Darby Subject: PINE 3.92 WEB SITES Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 21:14:11 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: DOes anyone know where I can get some Documentation on PINE 3.92 other than it's own help files? I'm putting together some documentation on it, and was wondering if I could save myself some time. Please email me personally with any results. Thanks to anyone that responds! Gerald __^__ __^__ ( ___ )------------------------------------------------------------( ___ ) | / | Gerald G. Darby Email: fxggd@aurora.alaska.edu | \ | | / | Training Assistant geraldd@muskox.alaska.edu | \ | | / | Division of Computing SnailMail: PO BOX 756800 | \ | | / | and Communications UAF, Alaska 99775 | \ | | / | University of Alaska Voice: 907-474-6564 Work | \ | | / | FAIRBANKS FAX: 907-474-6841 Work | \ | | / | | \ | |___| |___| (_____)------------------------------------------------------------(_____) ^ ^ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 07:48:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23289; Mon, 10 Jul 95 07:48:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01386; Mon, 10 Jul 95 07:41:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01380; Mon, 10 Jul 95 07:41:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVJpZ-00038HC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 07:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 3srf@qlink.queensu.ca (Steve Frampton) Subject: Question in Pine. Date: Sat, 01 Jul 1995 04:54:49 GMT Message-Id: <3t2kfu$k72@knot.queensu.ca> Status: O X-Status: Hello: I am posting this message on behalf of a friend. Please reply directly to him at s832816@aix2.uottawa.ca (the default if you "reply" to this message). He was wondering if there was any way to request receipt notification and/or read notification when sending a mail message using Pine. I have looked on my Pine but wasn't able to figure out how to do so (it doesn't seem to be in the rich headers). Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. --< MAKE MONEY FAST!!! Contact Dave Rhodes for details. >-- Steve Frampton E-mail: <3srf@qlink.queensu.ca> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 08:09:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23938; Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:09:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15122; Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:06:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15116; Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:06:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVKGe-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 07:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: PINE 3.92 WEB SITES Date: 10 Jul 1995 14:41:40 GMT Message-Id: <3tre74$aqo@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Gerald G Darby (fxggd@aurora.alaska.edu) wrote: : DOes anyone know where I can get some Documentation on PINE 3.92 other : than it's own help files? I'm putting together some documentation on it, : and was wondering if I could save myself some time. Please email me : personally with any results. Thanks to anyone that responds! : Gerald I assume you mean 3.91, unless you know something I don't. The best site is http://www.cac.washington.edu:1180/pine/ Lottsa good stuff there. /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ m j From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 08:12:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24046; Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:12:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15192; Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:09:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pinky.ac.duke.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15186; Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:09:09 -0700 Received: from [152.3.202.140] (mac40.ac.duke.edu [152.3.202.140]) by mail.duke.edu (8.6.10/Duke-2.0) with SMTP id LAA05351; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 11:09:08 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 11:09:12 -0500 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mbell@mail.duke.edu (Mark R. Bell) Subject: Return Address Spoofing Status: O X-Status: To be able to use Pine 3.91 (LAN Workplace version) in a public cluster, I need to completely disable the ability of a user to enter a fake return address or name. I have been able to hack a solution on the Mac side by removing the text fields for a return name and address, the result being that a user's e-mail has only his or her true e-mail address in the From field in the header. Is this possible in Pine? I have looked at the release notes, FAQ, and Web site, but with no luck. Thanks in advance for any advice on this problem. --Mark Mark R. Bell Voice: 919/660-6919 Information Services Specialist, Fax: 919/684-8615 Technical Consulting Group, Email: mbell@mail.duke.edu Office of Information Technology URL: phonebk.duke.edu:8001 Duke University /markbell.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 08:17:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24231; Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:17:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01944; Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:13:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01938; Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:13:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVKTh-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "S. Shawns S." Subject: dictionary help Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 08:49:05 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I want to know how to add words to the file that pine uses to spell check. Plus on my home PC I have Linux, it came w/ pine but it doesn't have the spell check file since it says it did a spell check but it did not find the misspelled words. Thanks, S. Shawn S. http://www.eden.com/~sshawns *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Men are so necessarily foolish that not to be a fool is merely a varied freak of the folly. --PASCAL. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 10:17:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00815; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:17:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17934; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:13:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17928; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:13:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVMHS-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: URGENT HELP NEEDED: problems with MIME! Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 15:14:47 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi all! I use PINE 3.91 for mail and news. Many users asked me if i can deactivate the MIME-support, because their news-reader have problems with MIME. They always have '=20'-sequences in my messages. I don't want to take another newsreader, but then i must deactivate MIME. Who can i do that?? Help per PMail wanted! (Or Cc of your posting). ^^^^^ THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR HELPING ME! +-----------------------+-------------+-----------------------------------+ | Ralf Wenzel | ? | n06600@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de | | Kavallerieweg 18 | \|/ + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | 33104 Paderborn (GER) | @ @ | PHONE: 0049 - 5254 - 87293 | +-----------------------+-oOO-(_)-OOo-+-----------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 10:18:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00848; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:18:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05003; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:13:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04997; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:13:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVMHj-00038HC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: Re: Signature Help Needed Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 15:21:21 +0100 Message-Id: References: <3tpnbm$q4e@tkhut.sojourn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3tpnbm$q4e@tkhut.sojourn.com> Status: O X-Status: On 9 Jul 1995, Alan Summer wrote: > I have a copy of the Pine user-guide, but it does > not answer my question of how, to establish a > signature for my e-mail. Can someone help? First: I'm sorry, but my english ist very bad!!!! I don't know if i really understand your question, because it seems a very simple problem (->online help). You have to save a file (name: .signature) in your home-directory. Or you choose another name and configure to the setup. Or use control+R (Read File). +-----------------------+-------------+-----------------------------------+ | Ralf Wenzel | ? | n06600@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de | | Kavallerieweg 18 | \|/ + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | 33104 Paderborn (GER) | @ @ | PHONE: 0049 - 5254 - 87293 | +-----------------------+-oOO-(_)-OOo-+-----------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 10:18:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00877; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:18:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17926; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:13:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17920; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:13:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVMEH-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mbell@mail.duke.edu (Mark R. Bell) Subject: Return Address Spoofing Date: 10 Jul 1995 14:37:00 GMT Message-Id: <3trduc$4ud@news.duke.edu> Status: O X-Status: To be able to use Pine 3.91 (LAN Workplace version) in a public cluster, I need to completely disable the ability of a user to enter a fake return address or name. I have been able to hack a solution on the Mac side by removing the text fields for a return name and address in Mail Drop, the result being that a user's e-mail has only his or her true e-mail address in the From field in the header. Is this possible in Pine? I have looked at the release notes, FAQ, and Web site, but with no luck. Thanks in advance for any advice on this problem. --Mark Mark R. Bell Voice: 919/660-6919 Information Services Specialist, Fax: 919/684-8615 Technical Consulting Group, Email: mbell@mail.duke.edu Office of Information Technology URL: phonebk.duke.edu:8001 Duke University /markbell.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 10:20:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01011; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:20:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17991; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:15:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17985; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:15:56 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28780; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:15:51 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:15:40 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Kevin Krause Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and EWAN In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Kevin Krause wrote: > I want to use PINE with the windows' EWAN terminal emulator, > but of EWAN's 3 configuration options (VT100, VT52, and ANSI) PINE > recognizes none. Is there a way to make these two programs run together. > It is not Pine that needs to know about the terminal you are emulating, but the Unix system you are running Pine on. Check the value of your TERM environment variable. Either ANSI or VT100 emulation should work with Pine... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMAFgQ9/IU4uTDdHNAQG68gH9ELYxOQ6ubIaLkCLMC6eX8sYNSDC0vbc8 K2zAAlWD+twen2+k9hseexTarrRt69AV/7YM5pxjyFYwqfpOK/EYYA== =K0bj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 10:28:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01380; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:28:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05235; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:23:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05229; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:23:40 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29201; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:23:37 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:23:29 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jude DaShiell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: kill or twit files and pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 8 Jul 1995, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Are these kind of files supported in pine for permanently > erasing flame throwers from your in-bound > usenet newsgroup articles? > If not, it's something that imho should be > considered for a new feature. It's not there yet, but is on the list for a future release... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMAFiFt/IU4uTDdHNAQEKEwIAlTtYfYdgE7eUfn0vLucC7BIa/j0bcxo+ yu5y5fTsQ/E7StdgyrZJ/9FqfcTlsFo7EYJa8XR/PtgDMIy+MJn+yg== =DDvC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 10:30:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01507; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:30:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18169; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:22:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18163; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:22:26 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29135; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:22:22 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:22:15 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jude DaShiell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: decoding mime attachments with pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 8 Jul 1995, Jude DaShiell wrote: > First is it possible inside of pine or do you have > to export the message and then find a mime decoder somewhere > else on the system? If it's possible to decode within pine > what's the command to run on the message? Pine encodes and decodes MIME attachments transparently. If a message arrives with a MIME atachment, you should be able to just go to the ViewAttch screen and view/save/pipe/print the attachment(s)... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMAFhy9/IU4uTDdHNAQG1pgH/TMh2x1jGKmFgAwlJMjG3Ur6Ecxu7cjyH u2nq48KLMvaYjixmb3o2IhcfOOxEpnXgKT6beSMIWp68mvzW5zabbA== =HknU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 10:33:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01624; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:33:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05373; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:29:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05367; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:29:11 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29294; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:27:59 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:27:52 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Brian P. Hampson" Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: Multiple "me's" In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sat, 8 Jul 1995, Brian P. Hampson wrote: > Someone brought this up quite a while back, but I don't recall seeing an > answer on it from the good folks on the PINE team: > > I would like to be able to define myself as: > > joe@xxx.yyy > joe1@yyyy.xxz > > etc, so that mail addressed to these addresses gets "+", as well as not > being prompted for "reply to all recipients?" when one of them was me, > and the other the sender. > This will be available in Pine 3.92 (no, we don't have a release date yet). |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMAFjHN/IU4uTDdHNAQEqIQH+Ll1QEdOYv1RvyNzAutqcQOEt84OV1Ygj r8gTDPQ1ubJYclhIJ9qOAOHpjhle5expoKKrMh6qCE8ql1ZZRWTWaw== =Gop5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 10:44:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02203; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:44:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05706; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:40:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from homer.spry.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05700; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:40:14 -0700 Received: from gort.spry.com (gort [198.185.1.40]) by homer.spry.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA04053 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:40:36 -0700 Received: by gort.spry.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05385; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:40:10 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:40:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Peterson X-Sender: pete@gort To: Pine Information Subject: Configuring pine to view MIME attachments Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: How can I configure pine to view a MIME attachment with the following headers: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=XXCGW-1064791400XX Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary ... Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="HEXEDIT.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="HEXEDIT.TXT" When I try to view the attached file, I get the following message: Don't know how to display attachment format Application/OCTET-STREAM I assume I need to configure my .mailcap file, but I'm not sure what should be added. I also assume I'll need a "base64" decoding program, where can I find one for UNIX? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Peterson Internet: pete@spry.com Senior UNIX Engineer Phone: (206) 447-0300 CompuServe Internet Division FAX: (206) 447-9004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 10:49:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02372; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:49:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05796; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:43:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05790; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:43:55 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29697; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:43:39 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:43:31 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Andreas Frick Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: media types In-Reply-To: <3tm89l$dsf@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 8 Jul 1995, Andreas Frick wrote: > First of all, where gets pine its information about media types? > Mosaic and netscape use mime.types files to determine the content type. > But i couldn't find out how pine does this. I created my personal > .maicaps and .mimetypes file and configured netscape to use it. So now a macintosh > binhex file is indentified by netscape and proper decoded by mcvert. > But pine still refuses to mark a macbinary file as application/applefile when > attaching a macbinary (.bin) file to a mail in pine. > Pine currently looks at the first few bytes of an attachment to identify a few common types that it knows about. The next release of Pine will also support the .mime-types file... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBUAwUBMAFmx9/IU4uTDdHNAQHNigH3ZHSxtdhDZgduY5Q3U4zvkxbnqSL0zFac AcGs9MOJQNtau8HHm3MfenhnFqE+HCetaK3oDUQcYoC0/OsITMoo =F3/h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 11:15:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03607; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:15:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06485; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:08:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06479; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:08:26 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00713; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:08:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 11:08:15 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Dan Peterson Cc: Pine Information Subject: Re: Configuring pine to view MIME attachments In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 10 Jul 1995, Dan Peterson wrote: > How can I configure pine to view a MIME attachment with the following > headers: > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=XXCGW-1064791400XX > Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary > ... > Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="HEXEDIT.TXT" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="HEXEDIT.TXT" > > When I try to view the attached file, I get the following message: > > Don't know how to display attachment format Application/OCTET-STREAM > > I assume I need to configure my .mailcap file, but I'm not sure what > should be added. I also assume I'll need a "base64" decoding program, > where can I find one for UNIX? > Pine takes care of the BASE64 decoding. The problem is that whatever program encoded the attachment apparently couldn't figure out what type of file it was, so it used the catch-all of Application/OCTET-STREAM. This means you will need to save it to a file and view it from outside of Pine. I suppose you could make a .mailcap entry to do something with Application/OCTET-STREAM, but be careful that whatever you invoke can deal with binary data... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMAFslN/IU4uTDdHNAQF/HQIAkPOid1ktXtmy1nvF6dyy7pqpne0Du5vA JEEjentYaFTwr7AGZDwNTnXeY0PJpiI3e5+0oLWncWMPlCV3MdRz2g== =jws1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 11:20:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03912; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:20:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06792; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:18:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06786; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:18:48 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09670; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:18:45 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 11:18:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Michael Pollak Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: Taking Addresses for Distribution Lists In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > That part I know. I don't want to add them to my addressbook. I want to > add them to distribution lists that are already in my addressbook. I > want to be able to invoke the "Z" command inside the "T" command. > > __________________________________________________________________________ > Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com Pine is trying to save you a keystroke and got it wrong. If there is only one address it assumes you want to create a new simple addressbook entry instead of adding to a list. That will be fixed in 3.92. Here's a workaround. First Select the message, then instead of Taking the address try Apply Take. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 11:31:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04509; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:31:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07103; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:28:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07097; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:28:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVNPV-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfg@nexus.interealm.com (Doug Johnson) Subject: Re: How to resume a stopped pine process? Date: 1 Jul 1995 15:56:21 GMT Message-Id: <3t3r75$mki@nexus.interealm.com> References: <3t0sqa$rmt@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Status: O X-Status: James Poulakos (poulj000@orville.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE) wrote: % I must have accidentally typed control Z or control S. My pine program is % "stopped," according to the output of the ps command in UNIX, but I was % in the middle of a huge letter! % When I restart pine, I get a new process that is readonly. How can I resume % or restart the old process and get my letter back on the screen? I can't % find this in the docs or the newsgroup.... Don't you hate when that happens? The first time that happened to me I had to kill the process. I have since figured out how to get back in. When you type ctrl-Z it prints a message telling you how to get back in. Stopped. Type 'fg' to restart PINE. Try it and see if it works for you Later, Doug sfg@nexus.interealm.com -- WHICH WAY DID THEY GO? WHAT WERE THEY DOING? HOW MANY OF THEM WERE THERE? I NEED TO FIND THEM, I'M THEIR LEADER! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 12:26:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07175; Mon, 10 Jul 95 12:26:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21023; Mon, 10 Jul 95 12:22:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21015; Mon, 10 Jul 95 12:22:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVOOO-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 12:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rick Bill Subject: imap shell Date: Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:16:53 PDT Message-Id: <3trdcg$k8b@news.laser.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am looking for a shell to use when users login to the mail server. I remember reading a post where someone mentioned imapsh. Can anyone direct me to this shell? Rick Bill rmbill@laser.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 12:36:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07734; Mon, 10 Jul 95 12:36:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08638; Mon, 10 Jul 95 12:32:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08632; Mon, 10 Jul 95 12:32:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVOQV-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 12:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: PINE 3.92 WEB SITES Date: 10 Jul 1995 19:01:38 GMT Message-Id: <3trtei$nuj@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3tre74$aqo@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: jgvd@news.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) writes: >I assume you mean 3.91, unless you know something I don't. The best site >is http://www.cac.washington.edu:1180/pine/ Lottsa good stuff there. I have links to lots of Pine info, including the URL above, at: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/mail+news.html Suggestions are welcome! Thanks, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 13:09:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09496; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:09:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22270; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:05:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pluto.njcc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22264; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:05:52 -0700 Received: (from reichart@localhost) by pluto.njcc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA17216; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 16:05:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 16:05:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Reichart To: Pine Info Subject: Grrr-rr (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: As pine-bugs's automatic response to this message (forwarded below) suggests, I'm posting this in case anyone has a thought. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 15:08:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Reichart To: Pine Bugs Subject: Grrr-rr (fwd) My sysop responded to the following that it's obviously a bug in PINE and recommending that I create long messages offline and upload them. I can and of course will do this, but would be interested in whether you are working to make the "postponed messages" (or perhaps some other facility) grab anything that's active when the host is about to go down. (I'm spoiled -- APL used to do this 25 years ago!) ... Dick Reichart ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 19:04:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Reichart To: [sysop] Subject: Grrr-rr I doubt if there's anything you can do about it now, but I just lost an hour's careful work on a message which I had in fact "postponed" in PINE a couple of times, when the system locked up and then dropped the carrier. When I logged back on, PINE first asked whether I wanted to continue the postponed message, than said there were no messages actually postponed. That's smoke coming out of my ears. ... Dick ======================================================================== Obviously, I can and will write lengthy messages offline henceforward -- but it's cumbersome. For one thing, altho it's not a PINE issue, when I tried downloading mail and using OLX to read/respond, I discovered that everying had also been wiped out of my PINE Inbox in the process. Does anyone know of a "canned" method for downloading/uploading messages? What I do now is very labor-intensive: Export a copy from PINE to my UNIX directory, use sz... to download it to my PC, use DOS EDIT to get it into a DOS format, then edit it with a more friendly editor (which however does not automatically add "quote" marks to quoted passages), then use rz... to upload it to UNIX and finally import it into the PINE Compose function to send if by email. Now you see why I avoided it (to my regret) in the instance reported. ... Dick Reichart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 13:43:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11436; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:43:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10520; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:37:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10514; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:37:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVPZI-00038HC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: Updating the INBOX Date: 10 Jul 1995 16:23:19 GMT Message-Id: <3trk5n$9dp@tadpole.fc.hp.com> Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to make Pine update its INBOX more frequently -- or to do so immediately in response to the push of a button?? Currently, I have to quit Pine and start it again to force new mail into the Index. -- ++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++ + DAVID MULLANEY Email: mullaney@fc.hp.com (970) 229-7629 + + Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + ++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 13:45:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11663; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:45:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23128; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:41:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23122; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:41:24 -0700 Received: (from kneustad@localhost) by PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.11) id QAA22474; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 16:41:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 16:41:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kathleen D. Neustadt" Subject: Re: PINE 3.92 WEB SITES To: Gerald G Darby Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Ok, this should help all, I think. You can get pine via anonymous ftp fron the pine directory of: ftp.cac.washington.edu DOCO http:/www/cac.washington.edu/pine http:/www/cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/pine-faq/faq.html ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs ftp://rtfm.mit/edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/pine-faq fttp:/ww/www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/creations/PineIntroduction same as previous except /PineIntromediate same as previous except /ca_pine_guide kneustadt@pigseye.kennesaq.edu On Sun, 9 Jul 1995, Gerald G Darby wrote: > DOes anyone know where I can get some Documentation on PINE 3.92 other > than it's own help files? I'm putting together some documentation on it, > and was wondering if I could save myself some time. Please email me > personally with any results. Thanks to anyone that responds! > Gerald > > > __^__ __^__ > ( ___ )------------------------------------------------------------( ___ ) > | / | Gerald G. Darby Email: fxggd@aurora.alaska.edu | \ | > | / | Training Assistant geraldd@muskox.alaska.edu | \ | > | / | Division of Computing SnailMail: PO BOX 756800 | \ | > | / | and Communications UAF, Alaska 99775 | \ | > | / | University of Alaska Voice: 907-474-6564 Work | \ | > | / | FAIRBANKS FAX: 907-474-6841 Work | \ | > | / | | \ | > |___| |___| > (_____)------------------------------------------------------------(_____) > ^ ^ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 13:45:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11665; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:45:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23042; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:37:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23036; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:37:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVPVt-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: datkins@spam.unm.edu (Drexel Atkinson CIRT) Subject: Pine on AIX4.1 Date: 10 Jul 1995 16:09:22 GMT Message-Id: <3trjbi$ajd@lynx.unm.edu> Status: O X-Status: Has anyone compiled pine on aix4.1 yet. Are there any problems? How about smail on aix4.1? thanks, drex --------------- datkins@unm.edu "Into the Backing" CIRT-ACS University of New Mexico ---------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 14:01:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12536; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:01:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23446; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:58:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23440; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:58:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVPr9-00038HC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: michele@midget.towson.edu (Michele Decker) Subject: Re: monthly moving of default-fcc stopped Date: 10 Jul 1995 19:15:31 GMT Message-Id: <3tru8j$nh2@news.umbc.edu> References: <3thebl$t7h@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> Status: O X-Status: Glenn Leavell (glenn@dcs.uga.edu) wrote: : In the past, I've been automatically prompted on a monthly basis as to : whether or not I'd like to move my default-fcc file to a file-mmm-yyy : archive file. For the past two months, I've not received this prompt. : I've searched the Pine FAQ and the Pine configuration screen, but I can't : find anything that controls this (perhaps I'm missing something obvious). : Does anyone know what might be causing this problem? Thanks! Well, I am looking for the answer to what you are experiencing now. We would like to 'turn OFF' the monthly folder moving option - Is this possible? We are running Version 3.90 Pine on our 4.3a Ultrix machine. Michele *********************************************************************** Michele D'Anna-Decker Internet Coordinator michele@midget.towson.edu Academic Computing Department http://www.towson.edu/~michele/ Towson State University (410)830-4256 Towson, Maryland ^ ^ . . >.< O From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 14:07:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12838; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:07:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11127; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:02:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11121; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:02:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVPvk-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Using Pine with Sendmail's userdb option Date: 10 Jul 1995 11:13:06 -0400 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to successfully use pine with unix sendmail's userdb option? Specifically, I'm using sendmail 8.6.12.1 compiled with Berkeley's USERDB option. The following is a brief desciption from the sendmail FAQ: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * How do I rewrite my From: lines to read ``First_Last@My.Domain''? There are a couple of ways of doing this. This describes using the "user database" code. This is still experimental, and was intended for a different purpose -- however, it does work with a bit of care. It does require that you have the Berkeley "db" package installed (it won't work with DBM). First, create your input file. This should have lines like: loginname:mailname First_Last First_Last:maildrop loginname Install it in (say) /etc/userdb. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I can use this feature successfully using ELM, Mail 5.5, and by using sendmail directly. By that I mean my "From:" address is changed in all my outgoing mail based on the above rule from "loginname" to "First_Last". Yet when I use pine, this does not happen. Does anyone know what I need to do to get this to work. Thanks. Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 14:27:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13658; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:27:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23971; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:24:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23964; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:24:07 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08887; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:22:50 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 14:22:36 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Drexel Atkinson CIRT Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine on AIX4.1 In-Reply-To: <3trjbi$ajd@lynx.unm.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- For Pine on AIX 4.1, use the "a32" port and delete the "include(srandom.dum)" line from pine/osdep/os-a32.ic. I haven't tested it extensively, but it seems to work... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 10 Jul 1995, Drexel Atkinson CIRT wrote: > Date: 10 Jul 1995 16:09:22 GMT > From: Drexel Atkinson CIRT > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Pine on AIX4.1 > > Has anyone compiled pine on aix4.1 yet. Are there any problems? How about > smail on aix4.1? > > thanks, > drex > > > > --------------- > datkins@unm.edu "Into the Backing" > CIRT-ACS University of New Mexico > ---------------------------------- > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMAGaJt/IU4uTDdHNAQGenQH+J6A1SGylfAbnJh/qsN3/Y9j8gCcO/TKy ECgYvE0OnFao5yNzj2LtUBtjSvUpZJxKKhL/+6Cn2qsOP/OYa0WmNA== =AZrR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 14:35:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14214; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:35:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24175; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:33:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24169; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:33:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVQQl-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: think1st@netcom.com (THINKfirst!) Subject: How do I auto bounce/forward? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 16:56:04 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi. I'm getting annoying e-mail from someone, and I'd like to set Pine to automatically send any e-mail sent to me from that address right back to that address. How can I accomplish this? A reply via e-mail would be preferred. THANKS!!! -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- T H I N K f i r s t ! What is is. Perceive it. Integrate it honestly. Act on it. Idealize it. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 14:52:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15066; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:52:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12395; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:47:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12389; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:47:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVQdQ-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: leehen@netcom.com (Lee Henrikson) Subject: pine for hp-ux 9.x? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 20:37:17 GMT Status: O X-Status: I want to install pine on an HP 755 workstation running hp-ux 9.03. The hpp makefile is for 8.0. Needless to say, it doesn't compile. Any help would be appreciated. You can respond directly to me or to the list. Thanks, Lee leehen@netcom.com -- Lee From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 15:13:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16175; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:13:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25097; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:08:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25091; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:08:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVQy5-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: PINE 3.92 WEB SITES Date: 10 Jul 1995 21:26:18 GMT Message-Id: <3ts5tq$r4d@news1.wolfe.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Gerald G Darby writes: >DOes anyone know where I can get some Documentation on PINE 3.92 other >than it's own help files? I have links to lots of Pine info, including the URL above, at: http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/mail+news.html Suggestions are welcome! Thanks, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 15:16:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16333; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:16:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25089; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:08:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25083; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:08:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVQuT-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nancy@Wolfe.NET (Nancy McGough) Subject: cmsg cancel <3trtei$nuj@news1.wolfe.net> Control: cancel <3trtei$nuj@news1.wolfe.net> Date: 10 Jul 1995 21:24:19 GMT Message-Id: <3ts5q3$r4b@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: cancel <3trtei$nuj@news1.wolfe.net> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine This article was cancelled from within NN version 6.5.0 #5 (NOV) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 15:17:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16380; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:17:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12924; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:08:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12917; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:08:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVQvi-00038HC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kurt.risser@shivasys.com (Kurt) Subject: Re: Dual Edged Sword Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 19:44:46 GMT Message-Id: <3trvnr$l6b@news.paonline.com> References: <3spd17$mlo@news.paonline.com> Status: O X-Status: gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray) wrote: >You haven't given us much to go on... more details symptoms plus info on >your installation, versions, OS flavor, comm software, and usage patterns >would perhaps provide a starting point. You are right... most of my problems regarding folders, files, permissions, etc. have been solved, and they aren't PINE's fault. They were MY fault. However, PINE does ocassionally crash, squirting all manner of characters onto the terminal on its way down... But I have a more important question I would like to pose to you. It's not anything wrong with PINE, either. Is there some way to have the system notify users who are in application programs that they have received mail? Like the "write" command? Can SENDMAIL be configured to do this? Or am I out of luck altogether? aTdHvAaNnKcSe Kurt Risser From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 15:57:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18146; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:57:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13994; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:53:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13988; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:53:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVRZc-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jmeddaug@cris.com (JOM) Subject: Re: mailing list help Date: 10 Jul 1995 21:38:31 GMT Message-Id: <3ts6kn$39@warp.cris.com> References: <3tjtd1$70b@warp.cris.com> <3tpjvi$ocv@nyx10.cs.du.edu> Status: O X-Status: tknab@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Terry Knab) writes: >JOM (Jmeddaug@cris.com) wrote: >: I run a mailing list with Pine and the addressbook. Is there a way to >: make each message I say start with >: >: From: Commo Mailing List >: or similar? Thanks. >There is a simple way to do this. Just set your personal name using >Pine's config feature. just set it to Commo Mailing list. Making this more clear, regular mail goes through this mailbox too and I don't want to be changing it back and forth all the time. -- Write for info about the Commo Mailing J.J. Meddaugh, Email: jmeddaug@cris.com list and Commo Music Player. Join alt.comp.blind-users today! Got any game shows on video? Write me. Check out the fun at Michi-Web: Author of the TC BBS List for Mid-Mich. http://www.cris.com/~jmeddaug From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 16:10:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18791; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:10:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26171; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:03:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26165; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:03:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVRhR-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mbell@mail.duke.edu (Mark R. Bell) Subject: cmsg cancel <3trduc$4ud@news.duke.edu> Control: cancel <3trduc$4ud@news.duke.edu> Date: 10 Jul 1995 16:59:57 GMT Message-Id: <3trmad$7vg@news.duke.edu> Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 16:19:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19330; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:19:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14512; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:13:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14506; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:13:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVRwY-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: michele@midget.towson.edu (Michele Decker) Subject: Stop Monthly Folder Moving? Date: 10 Jul 1995 19:19:06 GMT Message-Id: <3trufa$nh2@news.umbc.edu> Status: O X-Status: We are using Pine 3.90 on our Ultrix 4.3a machine. Is there a way to turn OFF the monthly folder moving feature? Any information would be greatly appreciated, as this feature is quite annoying for many of our Pine users! Regards, Michele *********************************************************************** Michele D'Anna-Decker Internet Coordinator michele@midget.towson.edu Academic Computing Department http://www.towson.edu/~michele/ Towson State University (410)830-4256 Towson, Maryland ^ ^ . . >.< O From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 16:28:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19789; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:28:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26635; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:23:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26629; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:23:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVS9m-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jkcohen@uci.edu (Jonathan K. Cohen) Subject: Re: IMAP Client for Mac - {Eudora?} Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:01:30 -0700 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: In article , ted@itsa.ucsf.edu (Ted Eytan) wrote: > I am seeking advice on a good IMAP client (ideally, a Eudora-esque, or > even an IMAP-Eudora) and any information about IMAP vs. POP. I have > investigated Mailstrom which seems pretty antiquated (the U distributes v. > 1.05), and pine causes me to use up too much time over dialup lines. > MailDrop 1.1 from Baylor University is really the leading contender right now, although there's a commercial package called Simeon that I'd like to know more about. Mail Drop info: http://ackmo.baylor.edu/files/Mail_Drop/info.html ftp://ackmo.baylor.edu/pub/bell/Mail_Drop MailDrop-Comments@baylor.edu Simeon info: The ESYS Corporation - sales@esys.ca 402 424-4922 voice What I'd really like to see is Eudora for IMAP. No mail package for a similar context has Eudora's feature set, and any move away from Eudora seems like a step backwards -- far backwards. Are you listening, Qualcomm? (Info courtesy of Terry Gray's IMAP software resource listing at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.software ) Jonathan -- Jonathan K. Cohen, Internet Projects, UCI Bookstore, Irvine, CA 92717 email: jkcohen@uci.edu; book orders: books@uci.edu; tel:(714)824-3164 UCI Bookstore World Wide Web site: http://bookweb.cwis.uci.edu:8042/ PGP Public Key: send email to key@four11.com with email address as body From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 17:03:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21847; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:03:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15610; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:58:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15604; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:58:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVSak-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jaya Sreedharan Subject: Size of address list Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 19:59:19 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is there an upper limit to the number of addresses we can have in a list. One of our users is getting Bus Error. It used to work with 60 addresses, but it does not work now. No changes were made to pine. The OS was upgraded to Irix 5.3. Thanks for any help, suggestions Jaya Sreedharan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 17:10:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22552; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:10:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27460; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:03:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27453; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:03:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVSii-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Moshe Segal Subject: Re: How do I stop Pine from justifing ASCII uploads? Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 19:22:57 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3t52am$jp0@news.annex.com> <3teou1$rma@news.annex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3teou1$rma@news.annex.com> Status: O X-Status: With my Unix account, rather than use an ASCII upload, which can sometimes be unpredictable, I usually upload my file to the account, then, once I am in the composer, use the command to read the file into the message. Of course, there may still be a problem if the message was written in DOS, so a conversion utility might be needed. You're not the only one who's made mistakes Moshe E. SEgal But they're the only things 1336 Cory Drive That you can truly call your own Dayton, Oh 45406 Some people hope for a miracle cure, s010mes@discover.wright.edu Some people just accept the world as it is. (513) 279-0438 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 17:52:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23903; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:52:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28224; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:44:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28218; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:44:51 -0700 Received: from linda.teleport.com (bsherman@linda.teleport.com [192.108.254.12]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA12008 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:44:49 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:44:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian E. Sherman" To: Michele Decker Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Stop Monthly Folder Moving? In-Reply-To: <3trufa$nh2@news.umbc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 10 Jul 1995, Michele Decker wrote: > We are using Pine 3.90 on our Ultrix 4.3a machine. Is there a way to > turn OFF the monthly folder moving feature? One way to do this would be to edit the .pinerc file of each user and modify the following line: # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=95.7 ^^^^ Change this to 99.12 and Pine won't ask the monthly question until Jan. 2000. I have done this for several of my users and it works with Pine 3.91. -- Not everything that can be counted counts; and not everything counts that can be counted. -- A. Einstein []=====================================================================[] [] Newport/Layton Home Fashions,Inc. - MIS/EDI Manager [] [] E-Mail: Brian E. Sherman bsherman@teleport.com [] [] snailMail: 1420 NW Lovejoy St. Portland, Oregon USA 97209 [] [] Voice: 503-222-3847 Ext. 234 Fax: 503-222-7465 [] []=====================================================================[] Opinions Expressed Here Are Mine. No-One Else Wants To Claim Them. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 18:01:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24118; Mon, 10 Jul 95 18:01:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28389; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:59:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28383; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:59:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVTdv-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: Re: How to forward mail? Date: 11 Jul 1995 00:18:53 GMT Message-Id: <3tsg1d$41l@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hole Mailing List writes in comp.mail.pine: + How do I configure pine to forward mail to a different email address?? At the % prompt in your unix account, type the following: % echo "your@other.email.address" > .forward Replace in the above the actual address you want the mail be forwarded to. -- |~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/|\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~| | N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu | | Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support | | 'course my views don't reflect my Employers, neither mine at times. | |_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\|/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 18:10:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24577; Mon, 10 Jul 95 18:10:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16865; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:59:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16859; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:59:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVTc5-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: Re: Return Address Spoofing Date: 11 Jul 1995 00:12:58 GMT Message-Id: <3tsfma$41l@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Mark R. Bell writes in comp.mail.pine: + To be able to use Pine 3.91 (LAN Workplace version) in a public cluster, I + need to completely disable the ability of a user to enter a fake return + address or name. I have been able to hack a solution on the Mac side by + removing the text fields for a return name and address, the result being + that a user's e-mail has only his or her true e-mail address in the From + field in the header. Is this possible in Pine? I have looked at the + release notes, FAQ, and Web site, but with no luck. How come you have configured Pine3.91 in such a way to allow editing of the From: header in the first place ? Comment out that option in the "osdep/os-xxx.h" file in the pine src kit, and recompile. Then the option to edit the From: header will be disabled. -- |~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/|\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~| | N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu | | Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support | | 'course my views don't reflect my Employers, neither mine at times. | |_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\|/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 18:11:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24603; Mon, 10 Jul 95 18:11:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16888; Mon, 10 Jul 95 18:00:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from panix3.panix.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16882; Mon, 10 Jul 95 18:00:26 -0700 Received: (from mpollak@localhost) by panix3.panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12+PanixU1.1) id VAA06394; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 21:00:01 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 21:00:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Pollak To: Steve Hubert Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: Taking Addresses for Distribution Lists In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Steve, I can't thank you enough. Problem thoroughly solved. Michael On Mon, 10 Jul 1995, Steve Hubert wrote: > > That part I know. I don't want to add them to my addressbook. I want to > > add them to distribution lists that are already in my addressbook. I > > want to be able to invoke the "Z" command inside the "T" command. > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com > > Pine is trying to save you a keystroke and got it wrong. If there is only > one address it assumes you want to create a new simple addressbook entry > instead of adding to a list. That will be fixed in 3.92. Here's a > workaround. First Select the message, then instead of Taking the address > try Apply Take. > > Steve Hubert > Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle > > > __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 19:02:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25759; Mon, 10 Jul 95 19:02:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29144; Mon, 10 Jul 95 18:57:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from darwin.cc.nd.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29138; Mon, 10 Jul 95 18:57:32 -0700 Received: (from kkrause@localhost) by darwin.cc.nd.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA13239; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 20:57:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 20:57:18 -0500 (EST) From: Kevin Krause To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and EWAN In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: thanks for the help. it works ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ . Kevin Krause /<------ Krause.4@nd.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 19:57:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26931; Mon, 10 Jul 95 19:57:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18600; Mon, 10 Jul 95 19:54:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18594; Mon, 10 Jul 95 19:54:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVVL7-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 19:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jorge Garcia Subject: Who are you? problem Date: 10 Jul 1995 23:58:57 GMT Message-Id: <3tses1$q6k@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I'm trying to run pine from an NFS client (where the password file contains a "+" and gets the names from YP. Well, anytime I try to start pine from there, I get a message: Who are you? (Unable to look up login name) It works fine from the YP server. I tried looking through the FAC and didn't see anything related, although I was sure that this would be a FAC. So, now I'm resorting to the newsgroup. Has anybody seen this message before? How can I let pine know who I am? Please e-mail to jgarcia@cse.ucsc.edu, since I don't read this newsgroup regularly. Thanks! Jorge From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 21:58:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00140; Mon, 10 Jul 95 21:58:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01216; Mon, 10 Jul 95 21:49:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01210; Mon, 10 Jul 95 21:49:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVXEC-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 21:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kieran@interport.net (Aaron Dickey) Subject: Re: How do I auto bounce/forward? Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 00:11:29 -0500 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: In article , think1st@netcom.com (THINKfirst!) wrote: > How can I accomplish this? > > A reply via e-mail would be preferred. THANKS!!! I would like a PUBLIC reply to this, please! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 22:37:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01135; Mon, 10 Jul 95 22:37:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21114; Mon, 10 Jul 95 22:34:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21108; Mon, 10 Jul 95 22:34:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVXtN-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 22:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: Re: {Q} Can pine be set to forward mail? Date: 11 Jul 1995 00:07:02 GMT Message-Id: <3tsfb6$41l@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: John Waters - @ring.com writes in comp.mail.pine: + How can we set pine to forward mail to a different address? Can't find + anything in the online docs. ..... unless we are really just missing it! Yes. Just create a ".forward" file in your account and include in it the address to which you want to forward your mail. __ ||| ___MMM___ ||| (o o) (0-0) (o o) ---------oOO--\ /--OOo-----oOO--(_)--OOo-----ooO--\ /--Ooo-------- N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support. Mama always told me "Speak for yourself Son, the World will listen" =================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 00:27:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03710; Tue, 11 Jul 95 00:27:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02754; Tue, 11 Jul 95 00:20:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02748; Tue, 11 Jul 95 00:20:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVZQ2-00038XC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 00:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Tompkins Subject: Re: Offline reading Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 21:09:48 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 9 Jul 1995, Kathleen D. Neustadt wrote: > I dial in from a DOS machine to a unix server (home to school). I then > use pine (version 3.89) to read and write. > > I want to be able to dial in, collect my mail, get off and read/reply > without tying up my phone line or the school's. Here's what I've done to automate downloading mail to my PC for offline reading. It's a bit of a Rube Goldberg patchwork, but, hey, it works. I dial into a Unix machine (local Internet access provider) from my IBM-like PC. My communications program (Hayes Smartcom for Windows) has a script language, also it had a capture to disk function. On the Unix machine I use Pine 9.1, which has a select command plus an aggregate command function (apply the same Pine command to a set of selected messages). Since I subscribe to several listservs, I have set up a script to select and flag mail from each one and export them from my Pine Inbox to separate files in my Unix directory. I then go to the Unix shell and run a script to open my PC disk capture files and execute the Unix cat file command; as the exported mail files fly by on the screen I capture them to my hard disk. To go in reverse, I compose replys offline using the DOS edit. When I want to send them, I use the autotype function of Pine, which copies in my reply files as if I am typing them into Pine (but much faster, of course). All this may or may not apply to your situation, and you may or may not want to duplicate it. If you do and want more info, I would be glad to assist. Regards, Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 00:46:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04195; Tue, 11 Jul 95 00:46:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02990; Tue, 11 Jul 95 00:43:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02984; Tue, 11 Jul 95 00:43:05 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA06533; Tue, 11 Jul 95 09:40:12 +0200 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 09:40:12 +0200 (METDST) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?=)" To: JOM Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mailing list help In-Reply-To: <3ts6kn$39@warp.cris.com> Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: On 10 Jul 1995, JOM wrote: > >: I run a mailing list with Pine and the addressbook. Is there a way to= =20 > >: make each message I say start with=20 > >: =20 > >: From: Commo Mailing List >=20 > >: or similar? Thanks. >=20 > >There is a simple way to do this. Just set your personal name using=20 > >Pine's config feature. just set it to Commo Mailing list. >=20 > Making this more clear, regular mail goes through this mailbox too and I= =20 > don't want to be changing it back and forth all the time. So have two configuration files (.pinerc and for instance .mail-list and for mailing list, start the pine with `-p $HOME/.mail-list' option. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-{en|cz|ce}.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 01:06:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04772; Tue, 11 Jul 95 01:06:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23008; Tue, 11 Jul 95 00:59:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23002; Tue, 11 Jul 95 00:59:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVa6N-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 00:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: szoltek@turtle.gmu.edu (S. M. Zoltek) Subject: Printing using PROCOMM for Windows 2.1 or later Date: 9 Jul 1995 09:49:05 GMT Message-Id: <3to8mh$cpr@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: A freind has asked me to enquire if anyone has encountered problems printing when logging in over a modem and using pine to read mail. Specifically, they have successfully useed PROCOMM for DOS to use pine to read and print mail, but have not been able to do the same with PROCOMM for windows, version 2.1 or higher -- I think I Have the version number correct. Of course they have selected "attached-to-ainsi." -- -- smz +==================================================================+ | Dr. S. M. Zoltek, PAGE Associate Director | | US MAIL: Department of Mathematical Sciences | | George Mason University, Fairfax, VA 22030 | | PHONE: 703-993-1468 OFFICE: S&T I, Rm 226A FAX: 703-993-1491 | | EMAIL: (INTERNET) szoltek@gmu.edu (COMPUSERVE) 76044,2230 | +==================================================================+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 02:39:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06752; Tue, 11 Jul 95 02:39:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04249; Tue, 11 Jul 95 02:30:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04243; Tue, 11 Jul 95 02:30:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVbTD-00038EC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 02:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: neutrino@annex.com (DANIEL PRINCE) Subject: Re: How do I stop Pine from justifing ASCII uploads? Date: 10 Jul 1995 19:34:08 GMT Message-Id: <3trvbg$gl7@news.annex.com> References: <3t52am$jp0@news.annex.com> <3ti4u5$13iv@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Jim LeBay (lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu) wrote: : I've also found another way to reproduce this bug, for those of you who : aren't lucky enough to use NextStep. Use any(?) IBM-PC vt100 terminal : emulation program, login to your UNIX box, run Pine or Pico, and do an : ASCII upload of a UNIX-format text file. I.e. text lines separated only : by a single line-feed (0x0a), rather than DOS's normal CR-LF. I discovered that it is the line feeds that are the problem. Pico uses control "J" for justify and control "J" is (0x0a) the same as a line feed. If you don't want Pico to justify what you upload you have to not send any line feeds. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 03:13:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07485; Tue, 11 Jul 95 03:13:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24678; Tue, 11 Jul 95 03:05:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24672; Tue, 11 Jul 95 03:05:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVc6d-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 02:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Guido Bunsen Subject: help needed with imapd 3.6BETA on Solaris 2.4 Date: 11 Jul 1995 09:33:17 GMT Message-Id: <3ttggt$9db@news.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hello, we compiled imapd 3.6 BETA on a sun with solaris 2.4. It is possible to read the mailbox. But when the mailbox (/var/mail/user) on the server has to be written to disk after usage the mailbox content gets garbled. We believe that the Problem is in the routine bezerk_write_message in the file c-client/bezerk.c. We believe that the writev systemcall causes the problem. We get the following messages: Jul 11 10:24:23 harry imapd[17064]: Retrying after disk error user=testuser host=arielle.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE mbx=/var/mail/testuser: Invalid argument Is this a known problem? Are there bug-fixes, workarounds or patches? Sincerely, Guido Bunsen -- Guido Bunsen, Rechnerbetrieb Informatik, RWTH Aachen, 52056 Aachen Tel: +49/241/80-21031 / FAX: +49/241/8888-216 WWW:http://www-users.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~guido/ Email: guido@informatik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 03:46:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08105; Tue, 11 Jul 95 03:46:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04818; Tue, 11 Jul 95 03:30:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04812; Tue, 11 Jul 95 03:30:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVcYY-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 03:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pjh@tecoma.mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg) Subject: Address Book Zero'd Out ???? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 00:59:40 GMT Status: O X-Status: I was doing some sysadm chores as root today and executed a "rm *" while I was in /var/mail. :-( However I was surprised to find that the .addressbook files for all users were zeroed out! Is that a function of pine or ??? Pete From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 04:38:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09673; Tue, 11 Jul 95 04:38:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25974; Tue, 11 Jul 95 04:30:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25968; Tue, 11 Jul 95 04:30:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVdTw-00038EC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 04:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kirsten Richards Subject: pine on vax problem Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:55:06 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have accounts on two systems which offer pine. On my unix system, pine works beautifully and always has. However, pine was recently installed on my vax system and I'm having problems with the newsreader (same remote newserver I use from the unix system). Specifically, it won't let me purge out the messages I've read with the 'D' key. I've noticed some other differences between pines on each system (such as fcc), and I'm wondering if 'deleting' unwanted posts just isn't an option on the vax, if I have something set up wrong, or if something is set up wrong system-wide (a co-worker has the same problem). My system administrators will not deal with newsgroup related questions, only mail. Any ideas? Thanks, K. Richards From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 05:48:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11326; Tue, 11 Jul 95 05:48:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06181; Tue, 11 Jul 95 05:35:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06175; Tue, 11 Jul 95 05:35:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVeV7-00038IC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 05:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cd102@phy.cam.ac.uk (Cyrus Daboo) Subject: Re: IMAP Client for Mac - Here's a new one! Date: 11 Jul 1995 12:15:57 GMT Message-Id: <3ttq1t$ekt@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: Status: O X-Status: Hi, I've been developing an IMAP client for the Macintosh called Mulberry. Its currently very close to completion. Its being beta tested by a number of people in the UK, but I'd quite like to have a few international beta testers as well, so if you'd like to test it please email me: Cyrus Daboo Features include: -Full drag & drop support for messages - you can drag messages between mailboxes to copy them etc., or drag to the Finder to create a clipping file. -Can open multiple mailbox windows. -Mailbox windows are fully configurable - you can choose which information to have displayed (e.g. message size, message sender, subject etc). -Outgoing mail can be automatically recorded in any mailbox. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 06:36:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12542; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:36:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27505; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:30:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27499; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:30:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVfLB-00038LC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Moshe Segal Subject: Re: ASCII upload problem Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 20:45:35 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3thg2o$7ek@news.annex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3thg2o$7ek@news.annex.com> Status: O X-Status: On 6 Jul 1995, DANIEL PRINCE wrote: > I finally figured out why Pico was justifying everything I ASCII > uploaded. It was because Telix was sending a CR LF at the end of each > line. LF is the same as control J which is the command Pico uses for > justify. One I told Telix to strip linefeeds everything worked correctly. > > Makes sense. obviously Telix is a DOS program, and left to itself, it would conform to DOS conventions and put a CR and LF at the end of each line. I have had similar problems when uploading mail with Commo, the com program I use. I still say uploading and reading into the message is much easier, but I guess each one has its merits. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 06:37:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12619; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:37:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27396; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:27:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27390; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:27:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVfFi-00038EC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kimc@w8hd.org (Kim Culhan) Subject: Build problems on Solaris 2.4 Date: 11 Jul 1995 09:07:03 -0400 Message-Id: <3ttt1n$ali@w8hd2.w8hd.org> Status: O X-Status: Has anyone built Pine3.91 on Solaris 2.4 ? There are some problems with the makefile.sol, if anyone has worked around these I would be very interested in hearing from you. The origonal makefile.sol was for solaris 2.2 which, in the comments, mentions it has /usr/ucb/cc which Solaris 2.4 does not appear to have. Any help here is greatly appreciated. kim -- - kimc@w8hd.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 06:39:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12679; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:39:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06754; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:30:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06748; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:30:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVfJs-00038IC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roy@mchip00.med.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) Subject: Re: IMAP Client for Mac - {Eudora?} Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 14:15:54 -0400 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: ted@itsa.ucsf.edu (Ted Eytan) wrote: > I am seeking advice on a good IMAP client (ideally, a Eudora-esque, or > even an IMAP-Eudora) and any information about IMAP vs. POP. I have > investigated Mailstrom which seems pretty antiquated (the U distributes v. > 1.05), and pine causes me to use up too much time over dialup lines. Check out http://andrew2.andrew.cmu.edu/cyrus/email/clients-IMAP.html for a list of IMAP clients. I've been a big fan of Eudora, but have started using MailDrop, and while it's not as "featureful" as Eurodra, it seems to work well enough. A new entry in the field seems to be a commercial program called Simeon, which I have no experience with. They have their own WWW site (pointed to from the page cited above), but it's pretty useless as far as information content goes, and is pretty high on my list of "most badly designed WWW pages I've ever seen" :-) -- Roy Smith Hippocrates Project, Department of Microbiology, Coles 202 NYU School of Medicine, 550 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016 "This never happened to Bart Simpson." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 07:12:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13516; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:12:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07154; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:01:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07148; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:01:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVflx-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: Re: monthly moving of default-fcc stopped Date: 10 Jul 1995 23:59:48 GMT Message-Id: <3tsetl$41l@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Michele Decker writes in comp.mail.pine: + Well, I am looking for the answer to what you are experiencing now. We + would like to 'turn OFF' the monthly folder moving option - Is this + possible? We are running Version 3.90 Pine on our 4.3a Ultrix machine. Look in your $HOME/.pinerc for the line below. Make the 95.7 to 99.9 and then you won't be prompted till October 1999. What happens in 2000 AD if you must ask, well 3.92 will be out by then. :))))) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=95.7 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ __ ||| ___MMM___ ||| (o o) (0-0) (o o) ---------oOO--\ /--OOo-----oOO--(_)--OOo-----ooO--\ /--Ooo-------- N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support. Mama always told me "Speak for yourself Son, the World will listen" =================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 07:26:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13801; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:26:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28249; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:15:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28243; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:15:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVg4d-00038EC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: Re: "Message shrank" Date: 11 Jul 1995 00:41:59 GMT Message-Id: <3tshcn$41l@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Rick Fonger writes in comp.mail.pine: + I sometimes get this message when trying to save mail to a specific + folder other than my inbox. How can I avoid this? Are you using a POP mailclient (Eudora?) as well as Pine at the same time? When you are using Pine to read mail from your inbox, if there's a POP connection to your mailbox from your POP client, then it will extract mail from your INBOX prompting Pine to notify you about "Message Shrank" -- |~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/|\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~| | N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu | | Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support | | 'course my views don't reflect my Employers, neither mine at times. | |_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\|/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 08:04:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14919; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:04:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07812; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:50:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07806; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:50:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVgZi-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: Re: owner and group of pine folders Date: 11 Jul 1995 01:05:32 GMT Message-Id: <3tsios$41l@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Haven't you tried using the superkewl 'imap' for this? Comments ? Nancy McGough writes in comp.mail.pine: + I have a couple accounts on one system and I'd like to be able + to access the mail folders in both these accounts using pine + running on one of the accounts. When the folder is owned + by the userid that's running the pine process, there's no problem. + But if the folder is owned by another userid, pine is not able + to open the folder, even if it has the same group as the userid + running the process and has 660 permission, e.g.: + -rw-rw---- 1 nancym mcgough blah blah blah folder1 + -rw-rw---- 1 ii mcgough blah blah blah folder2 + I'm able to look at both folder1 and folder2 using less or more + but if I'm logged in as nancym and try to open folder2 using pine + I get this message: + [Not a folder: folder2] + It would be great if the next release of pine would let me open + a folder like this, but if you don't allow that it would be good + to give a more informative error message, e.g. "Not owned by you." + Thanks, + Nancy -- -- |~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/|\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~| | N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu | | Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support | | 'course my views don't reflect my Employers, neither mine at times. | |_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\|/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 08:35:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16146; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:35:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29456; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:21:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bob.Wittenberg.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29448; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:21:40 -0700 Received: (from wcox@localhost) by bob.Wittenberg.EDU (8.6.11/bob-950321) id PAA15545; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 15:33:45 GMT Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:33:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Wayne Cox To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Assistance w. Pine prob on AIX Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-1903590565-805059108=:5733" Content-Id: Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-1903590565-805059108=:5733 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi All! I'm new to setting up Pine (3.91), and have run into a problem getting it to work on my RS/6000 AIX 3 system. If the INBOX folder is empty when Pine is started, and Compose is selected from the main menu or the folder list, then Pine hangs in the compose screen with the cursor positioned on the "To:" field. The hang does not occur if the user views any folder index before attempting to Compose a message, or if the INBOX has at least one message. This same problem occurs in the executable I built, and in the pre-compiled one from U.W. (pine-bin.a32). One hitch here is I'm still on an older 3.0 something AIX. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Please reply directly, I'm not on this list yet. -Wayne Cox wcox@bob.wittenberg.edu ---559023410-1903590565-805059108=:5733-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 09:01:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17343; Tue, 11 Jul 95 09:01:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00238; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:51:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00232; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:51:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVhXk-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steved@panix.com (Steve Dambrowski) Subject: Please help! MIME attachment & Postpone problem Date: 10 Jul 1995 22:26:21 -0400 Message-Id: <3tsngd$apk@panix3.panix.com> Status: O X-Status: I have two problems. First the easy one. Postpone does not seem to be working, and it's a pain when I have cancel the message if I can't finish it for some reason. Do I need to set a flag in the config area or something to turn this on? Second problem.. I use two internet accounts, and for a while, I would email a file via Pine's attachment feature from one account to the other and then d/l from the other site. Well, what happened was I uqwk'ed my mailbox before I separated the attachment. So what I have is a plain ascii text file of the message w/ the attachment. Is there anyway I can recover the file? I tried just importing the msg, but that didn't work. Although it's not anything vital, it would be nice to have it. :) STEve -- "I could be mistaken. Maybe it was another bald-headed jigsaw puzzle tattooed naked guy I saw." - Agent Fox Mulder, The X-Files. steved@panix.com S.DAMBROWSKI@genie.geis.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 09:02:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17442; Tue, 11 Jul 95 09:02:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09021; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:56:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09015; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:56:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVhdm-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wkearney@access1.digex.net (Bill Kearney) Subject: pico termcap problems? Date: 11 Jul 1995 15:48:31 GMT Message-Id: <3tu6gf$4k7@news3.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: This is a strange one. I've got this Northern Telecom DisplayPhone terminal I've been using as a console on a Sun 3/60. It works fine except for pico and rarely pine. The terminal seems to be getting sent some bogus ESC commands and it's flipping into a memory dump mode. This causes the terminal to start spewing quite a bit of info to the Sun. Of course, pico starts seeing this and responds with MORE garbage. Eventually, the Sun gets sick of this crap and hangs the terminal. Since this is the console, pandemonium ensues. Needless to say, I don't run pico on the console. I want to make this work. I think it has something to do with the termcap entry for the terminal. I think pine behaves itself becauses it accepts the xon-xoff stuff via the config settings. pico doesn't seem to follow this. Perhaps that's the problem? It's very likely this is some sort of terminal over-run issue. Any and all suggestions are welcome, e-mail reponses preferred. Thanks! Bill -- | Bill Kearney | wkearney@access.digex.net | copyright 1995 | Butler, MD | http://access.digex.net/~wkearney/ | W.G.Kearney | 410-239-0060 | ftp://ftp.digex.net/pub/access/wkearney | This random quote brought to you by the fortune program: Yes, but every time I try to see things your way, I get a headache. All I ask of life is a constant and exaggerated sense of my own importance. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 09:50:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20334; Tue, 11 Jul 95 09:50:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10266; Tue, 11 Jul 95 09:46:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from opus.csd.uwm.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10260; Tue, 11 Jul 95 09:46:04 -0700 Received: (dave@localhost) by opus.csd.uwm.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id LAA01488; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:45:58 -0500 From: Dave Rasmussen Message-Id: <199507111645.LAA01488@opus.csd.uwm.edu> Subject: Re: pico termcap problems? To: wkearney@access1.digex.net (Bill Kearney) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:45:57 -0500 (CDT) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <3tu6gf$4k7@news3.digex.net> from "Bill Kearney" at Jul 11, 95 03:48:31 pm Word-Of-The-Day: devotee X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23beta2] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3800 Status: O X-Status: >From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 11:33:54 1995 > >This is a strange one. I've got this Northern Telecom DisplayPhone >terminal I've been using as a console on a Sun 3/60. It works fine >except for pico and rarely pine. > >The terminal seems to be getting sent some bogus ESC commands and it's >flipping into a memory dump mode. This causes the terminal to start >spewing quite a bit of info to the Sun. Of course, pico starts seeing >this and responds with MORE garbage. Eventually, the Sun gets sick of >this crap and hangs the terminal. Since this is the console, pandemonium >ensues. Needless to say, I don't run pico on the console. > >I want to make this work. I think it has something to do with the >termcap entry for the terminal. > >I think pine behaves itself becauses it accepts the xon-xoff stuff via >the config settings. pico doesn't seem to follow this. Perhaps that's >the problem? > >It's very likely this is some sort of terminal over-run issue. > >Any and all suggestions are welcome, e-mail reponses preferred. > We had a problem with some wyze-30 terminals that use magic cookies to emulate stuff like reverse video I think. Anyways, pico tried to do this on a per character basis instead of per field, and extra spaces wound up in the strings, causing line wraps and what not. here are the diffs: *** display.c.orig Wed Jun 21 14:10:06 1995 --- display.c Wed Jun 21 14:10:35 1995 *************** *** 2142,2154 **** buf++; (*term.t_rev)(1); pputc(*buf, 1); - (*term.t_rev)(0); } else{ pputc(*buf, 0); } } while(*++buf != '\0'); peeol(); (*term.t_flush)(); } --- 2142,2155 ---- buf++; (*term.t_rev)(1); pputc(*buf, 1); } else{ + (*term.t_rev)(0); pputc(*buf, 0); } } while(*++buf != '\0'); + (*term.t_rev)(0); peeol(); (*term.t_flush)(); } *************** *** 2166,2171 **** --- 2167,2173 ---- { char *obufp, *p, fkey[4], linebuf[NLINE]; int row, slot, tspace, nspace[6], index, n; + extern int SG; /* * Calculate amount of space for the names column by column... *************** *** 2214,2219 **** --- 2216,2222 ---- *obufp++ = *p++; } + n -= SG; while(n-- > 0) *obufp++ = ' '; *************** *** 2222,2227 **** --- 2225,2231 ---- while(p && *p && n-- > 0) *obufp++ = *p++; + n -= SG; while(n-- > 0) *obufp++ = ' '; } *** tcap.c.orig Wed Jun 21 14:09:52 1995 --- tcap.c Wed Jun 21 14:10:35 1995 *************** *** 79,84 **** --- 79,85 ---- #define TCAPSLEN 315 char tcapbuf[TCAPSLEN]; char *UP, PC, *CM, *CE, *CL, *SO, *SE; + int SG; /* * PICO extentions */ *************** *** 166,171 **** --- 167,174 ---- CE = tgetstr("ce", &p); UP = tgetstr("up", &p); SE = tgetstr("se", &p); + SG = tgetnum("sg"); + if (SG < 0) SG = 0; SO = tgetstr("so", &p); DL = tgetstr("dl", &p); AL = tgetstr("al", &p); *** tinfo.c.orig Wed Jun 21 14:09:59 1995 --- tinfo.c Wed Jun 21 14:10:35 1995 *************** *** 82,87 **** --- 82,88 ---- static int putpad(); static char *UP, PC, *CM, *CE, *CL, *SO, *SE; + static int SG; /* * PICO extentions */ *************** *** 162,167 **** --- 163,170 ---- CE = tigetstr("el"); UP = tigetstr("cuu1"); SE = tigetstr("rmso"); + SG = tigetnum("xmc"); + if (SG < 0) SG = 0; SO = tigetstr("smso"); DL = tigetstr("dl1"); AL = tigetstr("il1"); -- Dave Rasmussen - Information & Media Technologies (ex-CSD) Client Services Internet: dave@csd.uwm.edu Phone: 414-229-5133 2m HAM Radio: N9REJ USmail: Box 413 Bol213, Milwaukee, WI 53201 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 10:54:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22661; Tue, 11 Jul 95 10:54:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02973; Tue, 11 Jul 95 10:46:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02966; Tue, 11 Jul 95 10:46:10 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07992; Tue, 11 Jul 95 10:45:57 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 10:45:46 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jaya Sreedharan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Size of address list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 10 Jul 1995, Jaya Sreedharan wrote: > Is there an upper limit to the number of addresses we can have in a > list. One of our users is getting Bus Error. It used to work with 60 > addresses, but it does not work now. No changes were made to pine. > The OS was upgraded to Irix 5.3. > The "Bus Error" is probably coming from sendmail rather than Pine. You might try setting "smtp-server" in the Setup/Config screen. Sometimes sendmail will work better when invoked that way, or you can use a different server entirely... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMAK4z9/IU4uTDdHNAQEg9AH+NSD8jEdv7v1RnttaiThjCzghtv2CtLRD c6VjeLePMELL/Y8fY3M0HNudaAwzQ9WKi4fCc5Kje7FV7RfdEQoa0w== =HTs9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 12:16:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26393; Tue, 11 Jul 95 12:16:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12903; Tue, 11 Jul 95 12:06:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12897; Tue, 11 Jul 95 12:06:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVkZC-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 12:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kadokev@msg.net Subject: ELM patches: IMAP, RELM Date: 11 Jul 1995 15:29:27 GMT Message-Id: <3tu5cn$ha3@newdelph.cig.mot.com> References: <3trs71$90d@newdelph.cig.mot.com> Status: O X-Status: Wolfgang Friebel sent me mail about an available IMAP patch for Elm. It links against the C-Client code in the PINE distribution, and is available as: patch only ftp.ifh.de:/pub/ftp/unix/mail/elm_imap.patch.tar.gz ELM with patch applied ftp.ifh.de:/pub/ftp/unix/mail/elm_imap-2.4.24.tar.gz Perhaps this can be incorporated into Elm 2.5? On a related subject, I have hacked on Elm 2.4pl23 to provide reasonably secure behavior when run as "relm" instead of "elm". If there's a chance that these changes could be incorporated into 2.5 (they're really pretty minor, just adds a global 'restricted' variable and wraps several blocks with if(!restricted) { ... }) then I'll take the time to make a patch file and post/mail it.] When run as "relm" it has the following slightly unconventional behavior: * reads global configuration from relmrc instead of elmrc * Does NOT create/use a personal elmrc or .elm directory, and thus users running "relm" can't change/save the configuration. * Does allow users to save messages to files, most administrators would probably want to disable this- make it a config. option? * Change folder is disabled since the command allows shell escapes * all pipe/shell and external viewer commands are disabled I'm sorry, but I don't have the time to clean it up and make patches for a few people, but I'm willing to put in the time for changes that can be incorporated in the next release. -- Kevin Kadow From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 12:19:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26606; Tue, 11 Jul 95 12:19:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13076; Tue, 11 Jul 95 12:14:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from deathstar.cris.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13070; Tue, 11 Jul 95 12:14:18 -0700 Received: from voyager.cris.com by deathstar.cris.com [1-800-745-CRIS (voice)] Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 15:08:01 -0400 (EDT) From: jmeddaug To: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?=)" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mailing list help In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: That might work. I'll do it. Thanks. Write for info about the Commo Mailing J.J. Meddaugh, Email: jmeddaug@cris.com list and Commo Music Player. Join alt.comp.blind-users today! Got any game shows on video? Write me. Check out the fun at Michi-Web: Author of the TC BBS List for Mid-Mich. http://www.cris.com/~jmeddaug From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 15:01:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04468; Tue, 11 Jul 95 15:01:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08813; Tue, 11 Jul 95 14:56:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08807; Tue, 11 Jul 95 14:56:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVnBG-00038EC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 14:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: {Q} Can pine be set to forward mail? Message-Id: <173D899BES86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <3tsfb6$41l@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 09:55:57 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <3tsfb6$41l@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> shrim@bubba.temple.edu (The Shriminator) writes: >John Waters - @ring.com writes in comp.mail.pine: > + How can we set pine to forward mail to a different address? Can't find > + anything in the online docs. ..... unless we are really just missing it! > >Yes. Just create a ".forward" file in your account and include in it the >address to which you want to forward your mail. Half right. PINE itself does not handle automatic mail forwarding. PINE is only the program that you, as a user, run in order to get access to mail (it's a "user agent" in the jargon). The .forward file is handled by your computer's mail system (typically "sendmail"), not by PINE. That's why you won't find much about it in PINE's documentation. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 17:51:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12712; Tue, 11 Jul 95 17:51:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20301; Tue, 11 Jul 95 17:47:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20295; Tue, 11 Jul 95 17:47:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVps1-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 17:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Charles Bennett Subject: Listserve messages w. pine Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 19:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to get a list of all the messages a listserve gets in a given day? Or better yet, all the messages it gets from a particular person in one given day? Please CC to my e-mail address, as I don't have the opportunity to read this newsgroup as much as I should. Thanks in advance for your help. Charlie Bennett char@grfn.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 19:11:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14548; Tue, 11 Jul 95 19:11:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14062; Tue, 11 Jul 95 19:07:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14056; Tue, 11 Jul 95 19:07:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVr9G-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 19:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: Re: Assistance w. Pine prob on AIX Date: 12 Jul 1995 01:31:51 GMT Message-Id: <3tv8m7$q4@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: Wayne Cox writes in comp.mail.pine: + If the INBOX folder is empty when Pine is started, and Compose is selected + from the main menu or the folder list, then Pine hangs in the compose + screen with the cursor positioned on the "To:" field. What if you do type in an address at the To: field ? + The hang does not occur if the user views any folder index before + attempting to Compose a message, or if the INBOX has at least one message. + This same problem occurs in the executable I built, and in the + pre-compiled one from U.W. (pine-bin.a32). One hitch here is I'm still on + an older 3.0 something AIX. 3.0 is buggy..... upgrade! -- |~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/|\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~| | N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu | | Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support | | 'course my views don't reflect my Employers, neither mine at times. | |_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\|/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 19:25:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14898; Tue, 11 Jul 95 19:25:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21455; Tue, 11 Jul 95 19:22:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21449; Tue, 11 Jul 95 19:22:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVrLQ-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 19:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: Re: Please help! MIME attachment & Postpone problem Date: 12 Jul 1995 01:45:16 GMT Message-Id: <3tv9fc$q4@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Steve Dambrowski writes in comp.mail.pine: + I have two problems. First the easy one. Postpone does not seem to be + working, and it's a pain when I have cancel the message if I can't finish + it for some reason. Do I need to set a flag in the config area or + something to turn this on? Check in the default folder for postponed messages (postponed-msgs) to see if you really have your postponed messages listed in there. If not you might want to see if you have a file called ".pine-interrupted*" file in your home dir. If you do find them, then delete them. Things should get back to normal after that. + Second problem.. I use two internet accounts, and for a while, I would + email a file via Pine's attachment feature from one account to the other + and then d/l from the other site. Well, what happened was I uqwk'ed my + mailbox before I separated the attachment. So what I have is a plain + ascii text file of the message w/ the attachment. Is there anyway I can + recover the file? I tried just importing the msg, but that didn't work. + Although it's not anything vital, it would be nice to have it. :) Check in to see if you still have a copy of the original mail in your sent-mail folder within the account you sent the mail from. -- |~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/|\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~| | N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu | | Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support | | 'course my views don't reflect my Employers, neither mine at times. | |_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\|/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 20:40:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16950; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:40:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15568; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:37:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15562; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:37:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVsad-00038HC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: starrd@cinenet.net (David W Starr) Subject: Re: Procmail Date: 12 Jul 1995 03:24:14 GMT Message-Id: <3tvf8u$blt@marina.cinenet.net> Status: O X-Status: Aladdin Khamis (khamis@aviion.galtronics.co.il) wrote: Can somebody send me a sample copy for .procmailrc, that I can use under pine to do mail filtering ? Thankx > |\/\/\/| > | | > | | > | (o)(o) > C. __) > | \___| > | / > /____\ > / \ > / \ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 20:40:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16985; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:40:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15576; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:37:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15570; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:37:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVsaW-00038EC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: starrd@cinenet.net (David W Starr) Subject: Re: Change return address ("From:") in Pine Date: 12 Jul 1995 03:21:28 GMT Message-Id: <3tvf3o$blt@marina.cinenet.net> Status: O X-Status: Paul Robinson (tdarcos@access5.digex.net) wrote: : Mark Swearingen (mark@ephesus.com) wrote: : : harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) writes: : : I understand your concern re: deceptive e-mail and the problems it presents you : : as a system administrator. It was certainly not my intent to encourage : : forgery. However, for people who have more than one address at which they can : : receive e-mail, it would be convenient to set the return address at one : : location to the other address, so that all return mail came to one location. : : Thus, there is a "legitimate" use for such a feature. In this case, there is a customizable header line in your Pine config area, put "Reply-To: " and the desired email address, that'll do it for you. : : To get back to my original question, it would appear from your response that : : Pine does not have a configuration option for setting the username on the : : return address. Thank you for that information. : You can, you just have to recompile the source to allow the From: and : Sender: headers to change. Default is to not allow those to be changed. How do you do this? I am also interested... : Then you have to add them to the set of optional headers. -- ||||||||||||email address: starrd@iia2.org or starrd@cinenet.net||||||||||| | Creator of the original | Get paid to upload | | Patriot's Archives \ shareware to BBSes and | | ftp: iia.org /pub/users/patriot \_____ the Internet! | | ftp: wuarchive.wustl.edu /pub/msdos_uploads/patriot\ Get file: | | For index of available files: descript.ion \ uploader.zip | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 20:41:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17017; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:41:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22523; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:37:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22517; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:37:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVsal-00038IC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: starrd@cinenet.net (David W Starr) Subject: Re: how to define username ??? Date: 12 Jul 1995 03:32:35 GMT Message-Id: <3tvfoj$blt@marina.cinenet.net> References: <3p8at2$n0c@news3.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: Paul Robinson (tdarcos@access5.digex.net) wrote: : ecramer (root@luna.nl) wrote: : : I recently started using pine on Linux 1.2.1. Altough I like it, : : there is one thing I can't figure out. : : How to change the left-hand side from my header. : : It's possible to set another domainname, so why isn't it possible : : to set another username. : : The only solution I could find is to add a user with the desired : : username to my system and start pine beeing that user. : : Can anybody help me :-( : See if you can add 'From: ecramer@luna.nl' as one of the headers, in either : of the parameters of default-composer-hdrs or customized-hdrs : If you can't, then you have to recompile the source to Pine: : 1. add the following : #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM : in file ./pine/osdep/os-xxx.h : where xxx is the 3-letter code for your machine : 2. make pine : 3. bring it up, and add the 'From: ecramer@luna.nl' field to the : two items What if you are just a user w/o root or priv access? -- ||||||||||||email address: starrd@iia2.org or starrd@cinenet.net||||||||||| | Creator of the original | Get paid to upload | | Patriot's Archives \ shareware to BBSes and | | ftp: iia.org /pub/users/patriot \_____ the Internet! | | ftp: wuarchive.wustl.edu /pub/msdos_uploads/patriot\ Get file: | | For index of available files: descript.ion \ uploader.zip | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 20:45:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17136; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:45:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22593; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:42:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22587; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:42:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVsed-00038EC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: think1st@netcom.com (THINKfirst!) Subject: Re: How do I auto bounce/forward? Message-Id: References: Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 19:58:30 GMT Status: O X-Status: Yes, indeed! I would like a PUBLIC reply to it as well, but I would prefer an e-mail reply (both would be ideal). Thanks! Aaron Dickey (kieran@interport.net) wrote: : In article , think1st@netcom.com : (THINKfirst!) wrote: : > How can I accomplish this? : > : > A reply via e-mail would be preferred. THANKS!!! : I would like a PUBLIC reply to this, please! -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- T H I N K f i r s t ! What is is. Perceive it. Integrate it honestly. Act on it. Idealize it. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 21:03:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17509; Tue, 11 Jul 95 21:03:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15820; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:57:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15814; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:57:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVssb-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Spivak Subject: attaching a file Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 22:52:56 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This may seem like a stupid question but: how to you attach a file to a message? Please send all replies to my mailbox. Thank you. spivak@yu1.yu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 22:21:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19405; Tue, 11 Jul 95 22:21:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23767; Tue, 11 Jul 95 22:18:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23761; Tue, 11 Jul 95 22:18:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVu86-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 22:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu (Supak Lailert) Subject: Re: Pine and EWAN Date: Wed, 12 Jul 95 03:45:15 GMT Message-Id: <3tvggb$k54_001@news.cris.com> References: Status: O X-Status: >On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Kevin Krause wrote: > >> I want to use PINE with the windows' EWAN terminal emulator, >> but of EWAN's 3 configuration options (VT100, VT52, and ANSI) PINE >> recognizes none. Is there a way to make these two programs run together. Go to Edit Configuration dialog box. Click on Emul. Options and change the value "Emulation name" from "DEC-VT100" to "vt100". Some UNIX system won't recognize the "DEC-VT100" terminal type. Supak Lailert From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 23:01:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20225; Tue, 11 Jul 95 23:01:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17635; Tue, 11 Jul 95 22:57:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17629; Tue, 11 Jul 95 22:57:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVuhT-00038EC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 22:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Address Book Zero'd Out ???? Date: 12 Jul 1995 05:39:02 GMT Message-Id: <3tvn5m$sr8@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Pete Holsberg (pjh@tecoma.mccc.edu) wrote: : I was doing some sysadm chores as root today and executed a : "rm *" while I was in /var/mail. :-( : However I was surprised to find that the .addressbook files : for all users were zeroed out! Is that a function of pine : or ??? Hhmmmm ... My guess is you were not in PINE you were in unix, and rm filename means remove that filename and rm * means remove all files in the directory. There's one possible hope for recovery; The rm command does not actually delete the file, it removes the link to the file. Removing a link (or in your case a whole bunch of links) is not really the same thing as deleting a file (as in DOS). Bad news: Now DOS has an undelete command, but unix doesna have an unremove command. Good news: Removing a link is not really the same as deleting, there may be more than one link to the file(s), and unix will not delete the actual file until the last link is removed. Bad news: In most cases (and probably in yours) there is only one link to a file, so removing this link deletes the file. I'm gonna cross-post this to a unix comp group, and maybe someone else can help you out, 'cause that's the extent of my knowledge, and maybe someone else can take this further. Hope this helps. G'Day. /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ m j x From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 23:06:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20379; Tue, 11 Jul 95 23:06:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24220; Tue, 11 Jul 95 23:02:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24212; Tue, 11 Jul 95 23:02:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVuo3-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 22:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: Re: {Q} Can pine be set to forward mail? Date: 12 Jul 1995 01:14:35 GMT Message-Id: <3tv7lr$q4@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Half Right ? Err....Ummm.... where did I say Pine does the forwarding ? I just didn't elaborate on the differences between MTA and MUA as all that is explained very clearly in the FAQ's posted here frequently. Alan J Flavell writes in comp.mail.pine: + >Yes. Just create a ".forward" file in your account and include in it the + >address to which you want to forward your mail. + + Half right. PINE itself does not handle automatic mail forwarding. + PINE is only the program that you, as a user, run in order to get + access to mail (it's a "user agent" in the jargon). + + The .forward file is handled by your computer's mail system + (typically "sendmail"), not by PINE. That's why you won't find + much about it in PINE's documentation. -- |~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/|\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~| | N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu | | Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support | | 'course my views don't reflect my Employers, neither mine at times. | |_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\|/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 01:08:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23428; Wed, 12 Jul 95 01:08:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19392; Wed, 12 Jul 95 01:03:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19386; Wed, 12 Jul 95 01:03:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVwUH-00038RC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 00:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tsio0001@gold.tc.umn.edu Subject: Pine for windows..where? Date: 11 Jul 1995 12:21:28 -0500 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hi. I haven't been able to locate an ftp site for pine/windows using archie, looking at this newsgroup or using the search facility at cac.washington. ANy kind person knows where it is? Thanks in advance!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 02:55:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25762; Wed, 12 Jul 95 02:55:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26641; Wed, 12 Jul 95 02:41:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26635; Wed, 12 Jul 95 02:41:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVy5a-00038CC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 02:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "M. Crane" Subject: setting the REgion in Usenet Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 19:41:36 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: How can I set the distribution of messages in Usenet when I'm within Pine? I have some want ads that I don't want tto end up in Australia. Can the Pine wizards respond to my address as well as here? (picky..huh?) Thank you, virtual lumberjacks. mark crane From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 04:15:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28188; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:15:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22074; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:08:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22068; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:08:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVzcI-00038CC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Icewolf Subject: PINE and AIX/386 1.2? Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:06:15 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello friends, I know, AIX 1.2 is really old, but it is running here (maybe for years ...sniff!). So, is it possible to get Pine running on this old 386 IBM PS/2? Thanks in advance Ciao Holger From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 04:34:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28683; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:34:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27905; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:28:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27899; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:28:22 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:24:37 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id MAA29882; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:30:13 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:30:10 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: "M. Crane" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: setting the REgion in Usenet In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Usenet News articles can be restricted to particular collections of news servers by including and setting a header line in your article of the form: Distribution: identifier Note that you can't just pick any old thing for "identifier". Basically it must be something that your (and other, if appropriate) news servers understand. For example most news servers understand not to pass "local" articles beyond your own site. Similarly "world" (the default if the header is omitted) go everywhere. However whether a news server decides to pass on your article depends upon it recognising the identifier, and being configured appropriately. So you need to persuade Pine to allow you to include an additional "Distribution:" header when you compose a message/article. This is achieved in the same way as for other headers such as "Reply-to:". Specifically: * In Pine 3.91 go to the Setup Configuration screen (S then C from the Main Menu). * Move down to the "customized-hdrs" variable. * Add a new header by typing "A". As the value enter: Distribution: and press Return. (You can actually set up a default value that will always be used -- unless you change it within the message -- by including it after the ":". For example, Distribution: local ) * Leave the Setup Configuration screen by typing "E". * Now when you compose a message you can see this additional header (along with some extra standard ones) by placing the cursor on any of the usual header fields and type Ctrl/R (Rich Headers). You can then give or modify the value for the "Distribution:" field value. Note that if you set up a default value for the field you do NOT need to type Ctrl/R for the header to be used. Ctrl/R merely *shows* you the headers and allows you to change them. I would suggest NOT giving "Distribution:" a default value -- leave it blank. This is because it doesn't make much sense for any e-mail messages you send, and it would be better to add a value only for appropriate Usenet News articles you're posting. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 11 Jul 1995, M. Crane wrote: > How can I set the distribution of messages in Usenet when I'm within Pine? > I have some want ads that I don't want tto end up in Australia. > Can the Pine wizards respond to my address as well as here? > (picky..huh?) > > Thank you, virtual lumberjacks. > > mark crane > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 05:05:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29551; Wed, 12 Jul 95 05:05:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28214; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:59:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28208; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:59:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sW0Jz-00038CC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: llgoff@vms.ucc.okstate.edu (Lorraine L. Goff) Subject: PINE or POP for VMS?? Date: 11 Jul 1995 21:58:32 GMT Message-Id: <3tus68$2h3p@bubba.ucc.okstate.edu> Status: O X-Status: Does anyone know of a PINE or POP mailer for OpenVMS (not alpha)?? Thanks Lorraine L. Goff, CDRP VMS System Manager LLGOFF@okway.okstate.edu 113 Math Sciences phone: 405/744-6301 fax: 405/744-7562 Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, OK 74078-0606 *** Life in the fast lane is difficult for turtles. *** Lorraine L. Goff, CDRP VMS System Manager LLGOFF@okway.okstate.edu phone: 405/744-6301 fax: 405/744-7562 113 Math Sciences, Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, OK 74078-0606 *** Life in the fast lane is difficult for turtles. *** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 05:05:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29577; Wed, 12 Jul 95 05:05:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22713; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:59:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22707; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:59:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sW0OY-00038HC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: PINE or POP for VMS?? Message-Id: <173D9BD32S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <3tus68$2h3p@bubba.ucc.okstate.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:27:08 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <3tus68$2h3p@bubba.ucc.okstate.edu> llgoff@vms.ucc.okstate.edu (Lorraine L. Goff) writes: >Does anyone know of a PINE or POP mailer for OpenVMS (not alpha)?? I don't know about that specific combination, but there is a commercial port of PINE included in the PMDF package, or there is a free port of PINE by Yehavi Bourvine in Israel, and you can read my experiences with it and pointers to the package itself and further information : http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7Eflavell/vms-pine.html I've no reason to suppose it wouldn't build with your particular platform. You don't say which TCP/IP you are using: if it isn't Multinet then you'll also need a free network library package called NETLIB. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 09:43:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09957; Wed, 12 Jul 95 09:43:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02903; Wed, 12 Jul 95 09:40:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02897; Wed, 12 Jul 95 09:40:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sW4iz-00038CC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 09:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dkirk@cypress.mcsr.olemiss.edu (David Kirk) Subject: Viewing the Headers... Date: 12 Jul 1995 16:19:39 GMT Message-Id: <3u0smr$85r@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu> Status: O X-Status: Sorry to ask such a silly question... But how does one view the full headers on incoming messages? Thanks in advance. -- dkirk@cypress.mcsr.olemiss.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 10:34:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13067; Wed, 12 Jul 95 10:34:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29630; Wed, 12 Jul 95 10:30:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29624; Wed, 12 Jul 95 10:30:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sW5Rz-00038IC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 10:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Haephrati Subject: Garbled text Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 01:45:24 +0300 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Subject: Garbled text Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Summary: Keywords: X-Newsreader: TIN İversion 1.2 PL2¨ Subject: Garbled text Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Summary: Keywords: X-Newsreader: TIN İversion 1.2 PL2¨ Whenever I send message that include text imported from an ASCII file (edited by 'pico'), I see it ok on screen but most of the people who receive such message, get it garbled with '=20' at the end of lines. Another problem: Sometimes after running the 'spell' process, attempting to 'perform take address' on more than 50 addresses, Pine terminates stating there is a bug. Why does this happen and how can I get back without loosing what I was working on. Please reply directly to my account. .................................................... . Michael Haephrati . . 69 Jabotinsky st. Givatayim 53319 ISRAEL . . Phone/Fax: + 972 3 315 967 . . Email: harmony@ccsg.tau.ac.il . .................................................... .................................................... . Michael Haephrati . . 69 Jabotinsky st. Givatayim 53319 ISRAEL . . Phone/Fax: + 972 3 315 967 . . Email: harmony@ccsg.tau.ac.il . .................................................... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 11:43:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16583; Wed, 12 Jul 95 11:43:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05417; Wed, 12 Jul 95 11:32:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05411; Wed, 12 Jul 95 11:32:26 -0700 Received: (from kneustad@localhost) by PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.11) id OAA23354; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:32:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:32:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kathleen D. Neustadt" Subject: Re: Printing using PROCOMM for Windows 2.1 or later To: "S. M. Zoltek" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <3to8mh$cpr@portal.gmu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I use QuickLink II and the only problem I have is if I get to fast with the fingers. i.e. I don't wait for it to finish printing to my local printer. Then it doesn't seem to turn the print off. I have to quit out of Pine and go back in. Also the screen scrolls off into never never land. Kathy kneustadt@pigseye.kennesaq.edu On 9 Jul 1995, S. M. Zoltek wrote: > A freind has asked me to enquire if anyone has encountered problems > printing when logging in over a modem and using pine to read mail. > Specifically, they have successfully useed PROCOMM for DOS to use > pine to read and print mail, but have not been able to do the same > with PROCOMM for windows, version 2.1 or higher -- I think I Have the > version number correct. > > Of course they have selected "attached-to-ainsi." > > -- > -- > smz > +==================================================================+ > | Dr. S. M. Zoltek, PAGE Associate Director | > | US MAIL: Department of Mathematical Sciences | > | George Mason University, Fairfax, VA 22030 | > | PHONE: 703-993-1468 OFFICE: S&T I, Rm 226A FAX: 703-993-1491 | > | EMAIL: (INTERNET) szoltek@gmu.edu (COMPUSERVE) 76044,2230 | > +==================================================================+ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 12:14:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18236; Wed, 12 Jul 95 12:14:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06081; Wed, 12 Jul 95 11:59:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06075; Wed, 12 Jul 95 11:59:55 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19921; Wed, 12 Jul 95 11:59:52 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:59:37 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: tsio0001@gold.tc.umn.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine for windows..where? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- It is at ftp.cac.washington.edu in the /pine/pcpine directory... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 11 Jul 1995 tsio0001@gold.tc.umn.edu wrote: > Date: 11 Jul 1995 12:21:28 -0500 > From: tsio0001@gold.tc.umn.edu > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Pine for windows..where? > > Hi. > > I haven't been able to locate an ftp site for pine/windows using archie, > looking at this newsgroup or using the search facility at cac.washington. > ANy kind person knows where it is? > > Thanks in advance!! > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMAQbo9/IU4uTDdHNAQHDTQIAyXcQx+n1yy1PrpZN+JcfjCVGmJAR3Zyy pWIcb216glnvaCCuiyTH1I8itoIxGHfjZOZgzqAJvlJNFV4y9dYjhw== =d3Wg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 12:27:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18627; Wed, 12 Jul 95 12:27:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02473; Wed, 12 Jul 95 12:15:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02467; Wed, 12 Jul 95 12:15:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sW74a-00038CC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 12:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: c23mkb@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Mahesh Kumar Bagade) Subject: I need a nice public domain mail tool for PC Date: 12 Jul 1995 14:25:02 GMT Message-Id: <3u0lvu$eut@kocrsv08.delcoelect.com> Status: O X-Status: Hello All, I am looking for a nice public domain mail tool for my PC. The current tool "Eudora" is OK but it has it's own limitations. I want to be able to do the following things with it on a my PC: * Should be able to send mail out without any problems. * Should have aliasing capability including alias for aliases. * Should be able to insert files in the message area from any of my directories on my PC and be able to edit it while I am composing messages. * Should have the ability to beep me when the mail arrives. * Should have folders capability. * Should have multiple signatures appending capability * Any other fancy features are welcome. Any help in this regards is much appreciated. Also, a direct mail will be greatly appreciated. ---- Mahesh Bagade c23mkb@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 13:50:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22349; Wed, 12 Jul 95 13:50:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08281; Wed, 12 Jul 95 13:45:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08275; Wed, 12 Jul 95 13:45:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sW8co-00038CC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 13:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cubasm@hartwick.edu (Help Desk Technical Assistant) Subject: PINE and an e-mail anamoly Message-Id: <1995Jul11.163634.4326@hartwick.edu> Date: 11 Jul 95 16:36:34 -0500 Status: O X-Status: Tuesday, 11 July 1995 Since yesterday I am experienceing an anamoly with Linux-based PINE. I sent e-mail from my VAX VMS account at school to my Linux account. I login sucessfully into my Linux account, and it reports that I have new mail. However, I go into PINE to view the new mail, and I get messages similar to "Message 0 of 0" within PINE. My mail is on my Linux account, but PINE will not show it to me. I know it is on my Linux account-- somewhere. I just do not know where else to look. It should be in the /var/spool/mail/xxxxx directory (xxxxx = username), but bash (Bourne-again shell) tell me that xxxxx is not a directory. How can I get PINE back to normal so that it recognizes my incoming mail? I would greatly appreciate whatever help you can provide me, and I thank you in advance for that help. Very respectfully, Martin Cubas (cubasm@hartwick.edu) <=- VAX (ronin@witten.hartwick.edu) <=- Linux From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 14:59:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25357; Wed, 12 Jul 95 14:59:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09691; Wed, 12 Jul 95 14:56:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09685; Wed, 12 Jul 95 14:56:05 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25325; Wed, 12 Jul 95 14:55:57 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:55:43 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Help Desk Technical Assistant Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE and an e-mail anamoly In-Reply-To: <1995Jul11.163634.4326@hartwick.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- /var/spool/mail/xxxxx is usually a file rather than a directory, so you might double-check that. Also check the "inbox-path" in the Setup/Config screen. If there is a value there, try deleting it... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 11 Jul 1995, Help Desk Technical Assistant wrote: > Date: 11 Jul 95 16:36:34 -0500 > From: Help Desk Technical Assistant > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: PINE and an e-mail anamoly > > Tuesday, 11 July 1995 > > Since yesterday I am experienceing an anamoly with Linux-based PINE. I sent > e-mail from my VAX VMS account at school to my Linux account. I login > sucessfully into my Linux account, and it reports that I have new mail. > However, I go into PINE to view the new mail, and I get messages similar to > "Message 0 of 0" within PINE. > > My mail is on my Linux account, but PINE will not show it to me. I know it is > on my Linux account-- somewhere. I just do not know where else to look. It > should be in the /var/spool/mail/xxxxx directory (xxxxx = username), but bash > (Bourne-again shell) tell me that xxxxx is not a directory. > > How can I get PINE back to normal so that it recognizes my incoming mail? I > would greatly appreciate whatever help you can provide me, and I thank you in > advance for that help. > > Very respectfully, > > Martin Cubas (cubasm@hartwick.edu) <=- VAX > (ronin@witten.hartwick.edu) <=- Linux > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMARE6N/IU4uTDdHNAQFZNQH/fl5FEFkdUCIvPNi2NNxIewSCngoq3Yo9 Sv/0YqyyUpCxd9bV4VsRGPDFq/eZr90LvkDqx4igV1IVSdDwkQMocQ== =eWwt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 15:39:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27284; Wed, 12 Jul 95 15:39:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07403; Wed, 12 Jul 95 15:35:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07397; Wed, 12 Jul 95 15:35:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWAId-00038CC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 15:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Michael Henderson, Ruler Of All!" Subject: slocal and pine? Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 18:14:15 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: is it possible to use slocal in conjunction with pine to sort mail into different incoming folders? any help would be appreciated. much obliged, michael From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 16:04:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28683; Wed, 12 Jul 95 16:04:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11117; Wed, 12 Jul 95 16:02:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11111; Wed, 12 Jul 95 16:02:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWAiT-00038CC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 15:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: attaching a file Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 15:54:02 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 11 Jul 1995, Michael Spivak wrote: > This may seem like a stupid question but: how to you attach a file to a > message? > Please send all replies to my mailbox. > Thank you. > spivak@yu1.yu.edu If you want to attach it as text so that it appears as part of your message then you can simply hit ^R for Read File when the cursor is in the "Message Text" field of your outgoing message. Pine will paste the contents of the file into your message. It will appear as text, as if you had typed it in. If you want the file to appear as a MIME encoded attachment, (a coded file which is held separately from the text -- appropriate for GIFs, binaries, LARGE text files, etc.) then move the cursor up into the header area of the message and enter the file name into the Attchmnt: line. It's that simple! Ian From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 16:28:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29528; Wed, 12 Jul 95 16:28:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08535; Wed, 12 Jul 95 16:25:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08529; Wed, 12 Jul 95 16:25:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWB23-00038IC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 16:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cheney@ucla.edu (Michael Cheney) Subject: alias conversion Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 16:18:04 -0700 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hi, Is there a way to convert pine aliases to the .mailrc format? My real goal is to move my aliases from pine on my unix account to Eudora on my mac. I would appreciate a CC by email. Thanks, -mike -- Michael Cheney cheney@ucla.edu http://www.seas.ucla.edu/~cheney From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 18:54:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04997; Wed, 12 Jul 95 18:54:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13843; Wed, 12 Jul 95 18:51:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13837; Wed, 12 Jul 95 18:51:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWDFH-00038HC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 18:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mghens@rain.org (Michael Ghens) Subject: Mail alias to Pine .address Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 01:02:31 GMT Message-Id: <3u1ri2$d1b@news.rain.org> Status: O X-Status: Is there a utility to convert Mail style aliases to a pine .address? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 19:14:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05440; Wed, 12 Jul 95 19:14:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11792; Wed, 12 Jul 95 19:12:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11786; Wed, 12 Jul 95 19:12:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWDbX-00038CC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 19:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Dowman Subject: how do I change the user name? Date: 4 Jul 1995 22:27:32 GMT Message-Id: <3tcf8k$2s2@nic.wat.hookup.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I mail from have several accounts, but I want all the replies to come to the same account. I can change the domain name, but I can't figure out how to change the username. Thanks, Paul. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 00:48:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12283; Thu, 13 Jul 95 00:48:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17804; Thu, 13 Jul 95 00:46:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17798; Thu, 13 Jul 95 00:46:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWIvl-00038CC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 00:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Neta Weinryb Subject: how to get rid of RMAIL file Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:06:11 +0300 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: when someone who is using the emacs mail tool, RMAIL, wants to switch to pine, how can he stop the mail from going into the RMAIL file? (right now the mail goes to both the pine files and the RMAIL files. When the RMAIL file is read the pine files are closed and emptied...) ========================================== Neta Weinryb RADVision Ltd., ISRAEL neta@radvision.rad.co.il From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 01:24:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13288; Thu, 13 Jul 95 01:24:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16905; Thu, 13 Jul 95 01:22:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16899; Thu, 13 Jul 95 01:22:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWJOK-00038IC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 01:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Schmitz Subject: How to post articles via e-mail? Date: 12 Jul 1995 18:02:03 GMT Message-Id: <3u12mr$cj0@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> References: <3u11il$cgi@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Is there anyway of posting articles with an e-mail program? What is the ordinary way of posting articles? Thanx. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 01:59:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14156; Thu, 13 Jul 95 01:59:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17380; Thu, 13 Jul 95 01:52:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17374; Thu, 13 Jul 95 01:52:44 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:49:16 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA16157; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:54:54 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:54:54 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Michael Schmitz Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to post articles via e-mail? In-Reply-To: <3u12mr$cj0@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Forgetting about Pine for a moment... The usual way of reading and sending e-mail messages is to use a mailer program. This lets you read messages that have been delivered to your mail file on your computer, and to send messages out (usually directly or indirectly using the SMTP protocol). Usenet News is slightly different in that articles don't get delivered to a personal file "just for you". Instead they are held in a central, shared directory. They then can be accessed directly by a news reading program as part of the normal filestore, or by the special news protocol "NNTP". Now for Pine... Pine is an integrated mailer and news reader program. It attempts to provide a consistent, coherent interface so that whether you are reading, sending or replying to e-mail or news articles it "feels" the same. And overall it does a pretty good job; we have many users here who probably wouldn't have got into Usenet News if they'd had the hurdle of learning yet another program whilst also battling the newsgroups themselves. So, if you're asking "can I send Usenet News articles using a mail program" then the answer is "Yes". Pine will let you read and post articles using the NNTP protocol, assuming you have access to a news server that allows you to both read and post articles. However in some cases people only have access to news servers that allow them to _read_ news (not post their own articles). For example, it may be a limited service available to people not working at a particular establishment. If this is your case, then the question becomes "can I send an e-mail message somewhere to get it magically converted into an article in a newsgroup?" The answer is again yes... you will need to send the message to a Mail-to-News gateway computer. Typically a newsgroup with name comp.sys.blah could be reached as comp-sys-blah@news.gateway.machine Note the change of the "."s to "-"s. The nitty gritty is where such machines are. I know there are some publiclly useable ones.... but their addresses elude my memory at present. Perhaps someone else can remember? (Wasn't one run by DEC?) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 12 Jul 1995, Michael Schmitz wrote: > Is there anyway of posting articles with an e-mail program? What is the > ordinary > way of posting articles? > Thanx. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 01:59:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14182; Thu, 13 Jul 95 01:59:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18691; Thu, 13 Jul 95 01:56:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18685; Thu, 13 Jul 95 01:56:12 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:52:42 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA16515; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:58:19 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:58:18 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: David Kirk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Viewing the Headers... In-Reply-To: <3u0smr$85r@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: It's a two-stage process... First (using Pine 3.91) you need to enable an extra command for diaplying the full headers. You do this by going into the Setup Configuration screen (S then C from the Main Menu). Now move down to "enable-full-header-cmd" and make sure it is crossed. Leave the Setup Configuration Screen by typing E (Exit). Now when you're reading a message an extra command is available to you. The "H" command will now display the message with full headers. Another "H" hides them again. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 12 Jul 1995, David Kirk wrote: > Sorry to ask such a silly question... > > But how does one view the full headers on incoming > messages? > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > > dkirk@cypress.mcsr.olemiss.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 02:08:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14378; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:08:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18776; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:04:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18770; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:04:22 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:00:50 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id KAA17146; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:06:20 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:06:20 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Michael Haephrati Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Garbled text In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 12 Jul 1995, Michael Haephrati wrote: > Whenever I send message that include text imported from an ASCII file > (edited by 'pico'), I see it ok on screen but most of the people who > receive such message, get it garbled with '=20' at the end of lines. This is because your message text includes one or both of these: * At least one character with an ASCII code out of the "usual" range (32 through 126). * At least one Very Long (several hundred?) characters long. When either of these is true the message text is encoded using "Quoted Printable" encoding, a part of the MIME specification. When triggered Quoted Printable protects certain characters. For example, * "Funny" characters are sent as "=XX", where "XX" is their ASCII character code expressed in hexadecimal. * Spaces at ends of lines or wrapped lines get protected ("=20"). * Certain control characters normally accepted (eg, Tab) get protected (Tab becomes "=09"). If the recipient is using a MIME-aware mailer then the Quoted Printable encoding is automagically undone before the message text is displayed in its original glory. However if the recipient isn't using a MIME-aware mailer they get to see all the "=XX" stuff. One solution is for the sender to make sure they don't trigger Quoted Printable encoding when they send the message. Another solution is for the recipient to move to a modern MIME-aware mailer. :-) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 02:35:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14828; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:35:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19035; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:32:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19029; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:32:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWKWF-00038HC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: C.P.Stoddart@open.ac.uk (Chris Stoddart) Subject: Pine on several DEC Alphas? Date: 13 Jul 1995 09:06:03 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hi, I've just been trying to install Pine 3.91 on a cluster of DEC Alphas running OSF/1, and I can't quite get it to work right. Here is the situation: Several workstations are connected to a serverto which incoming mail is delivered. Users $HOME directories are NFS-mounted from the server, but the incoming mailbox /var/spool/mail/$USER is local to each machine. Now when Pine starts up on any machine I want it to look in the INBOX on the server for that person. This means using imapd. I've tried installing imapd on the server and even on the client, but when you start Pine connection from one of the client machines I get the message 'connection refused'. Anybody got any idea about this? The server definitely knows about the client because they are NFS-sharing disks :-) The Pine technical notes say something about using rimap, but I can't follow this at all. I am using a pine.conf.fixed file on each machine to tell it where to look for the INBOX. Could the syntax of this be causing problems? (if I use a clients pine.conf.fixed on the server, then the server refuses connection to it's own INBOX!) In short has anyone set up a Unix cluster in this way? How have you done it?!! I'd be very (very) grateful for your ideas. Chris Stoddart Dept. of Physics The Open University Milton Keynes U.K. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 02:48:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15011; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:48:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17957; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:43:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17951; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:43:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWKiQ-00038CC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: I need a nice public domain mail tool for PC Date: 13 Jul 1995 09:13:10 GMT Message-Id: <3u2o36$ped@fu-berlin.de> References: <3u0lvu$eut@kocrsv08.delcoelect.com> Status: O X-Status: First off: Let "mailer" mean "mail user agent". c23mkb@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Mahesh Kumar Bagade) writes: >I am looking for a nice public domain mail tool for my PC. >I want to be able to do the following things with it on a my PC: > * Should be able to send mail out without any problems. If it's a mailer then it should not have any problems with mails, right? > * Should have aliasing capability including alias for aliases. "alias" and "group alias". Most mailers do that now. > * Should be able to insert files in the message area from any of my > directories on my PC and be able to edit it while I am composing messages. That's an "editor" issue. Granted, a mailer might have an "internal editor", but why reinvent the wheel? > * Should have the ability to beep me when the mail arrives. This depends on how mail arrives on your PC. It should thus be bound to the program which receives the mail (MTA). The mailer should not be used for that. Otherwise you'd have to keep the mailer running all the time - not good as the mailer probably does a lot more than just check the mailbox and thus requires a lot more RAM than a simply utility. > * Should have folders capability. You mean "save a mail to a file"? Have you ever seen a mailer who doesn't have this? > * Should have multiple signatures appending capability Now, this isn't something a mailer is for. Use a script to do that! Better yet - don't use a signature at all. I think this is a general request about a mailer so I have set "Followup-To: comp.mail.misc". I'm sure both ELM and PINE will have all the capabilities you want. Just install a UNIXish system (eg LINUX) on your PC and you can install both and select the better one. I also left out "zmail" from the newsgroups list as I dunno whether it applies. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 02:54:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15119; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:54:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19205; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:52:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19199; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:52:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWKmQ-00038HC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mkyan@cs.cuhk.hk (Forrest Gump) Subject: Re: Signature Help Needed Date: 13 Jul 1995 09:39:13 GMT Message-Id: <3u2pk1$9q3@eng_ser1.erg.cuhk.hk> References: <3tpnbm$q4e@tkhut.sojourn.com> Status: O X-Status: Ralf Wenzel (n06600@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de) wrote: > On 9 Jul 1995, Alan Summer wrote: > > I have a copy of the Pine user-guide, but it does > > not answer my question of how, to establish a > > signature for my e-mail. Can someone help? > First: I'm sorry, but my english ist very bad!!!! > I don't know if i really understand your question, because it seems a > very simple problem (->online help). You have to save a file (name: > .signature) in your home-directory. Or you choose another name and configure > to the setup. Or use control+R (Read File). Also you may need to configue you .pinerc file in you home directory as below: localsignature=~/.signature remotesignature = ~/.signature Martin > +-----------------------+-------------+-----------------------------------+ > | Ralf Wenzel | ? | n06600@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de | > | Kavallerieweg 18 | \|/ + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + > | 33104 Paderborn (GER) | @ @ | PHONE: 0049 - 5254 - 87293 | > +-----------------------+-oOO-(_)-OOo-+-----------------------------------+ -- ________________________________ /| /| | Name:Martin Yan Age:20 | ||__|| | Home page : | / O O\__ http://www.cs.cuhk.hk/~mkyan | / \ Talk to me, i am bored!!!! | / \ \ | / _ \ \ ---------------------------- / |\____\ \ || / | | | |\____/ || / \|_|_|/ | __|| / / \ |____| || / | | /| | --| | | |// |____ --| * _ | |_|_|_| | \-/ *-- _--\ _ \ // | / _ \\ _ // | / * / \_ /- | - | | * ___ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________ _________ _____________ ______________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 03:09:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15577; Thu, 13 Jul 95 03:09:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19245; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:57:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19239; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:57:14 -0700 Received: from apus.cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.2] (ident = root) by bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.0 #36) id m0sWL0z-000BzOC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 10:57 BST Received: by apus.cus.cam.ac.uk (Smail-3.1.29.0 #36) id m0sWL0y-00034FC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 10:57 BST Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:57:04 +0100 (BST) From: Barry Landy Reply-To: bl10@cam.ac.uk To: Tom Unger , Michael Seibel , Pine Info List Subject: Winpine Bug Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1900025479-1110064587-805629201=:3826" Content-Id: Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1900025479-1110064587-805629201=:3826 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: My usual favorite user reports that he has problems eXpunging a largish folder using Winpine. I have attached his brief report, and a message from him including the pinedebg.txt. ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 --1900025479-1110064587-805629201=:3826 Content-Type: MULTIPART/DIGEST; BOUNDARY="1900025479-976763494-805629201=:3826" Content-ID: Content-Description: Digest of 2 messages This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1900025479-976763494-805629201=:3826 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-ID: Content-Description: winpine (fwd) Return-Path: Received: from ppsw3.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.38] (ident = pp) by bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Smail-3.1.29.0 #36) id m0sW4vg-000C03C; Wed, 12 Jul 95 17:46 BST Received: from black.csi.cam.ac.uk by mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk with SMTP-CAM (XTPP8.1) as ppsw.cam.ac.uk; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 17:45:49 +0100 Received: from cjc-pc.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.10.155] by black.csi.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.0 #36) id m0sW4vV-000CBiC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 17:46 BST Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 17:46:17 -0100 (BST) From: Chris Cheney Reply-To: C.J.Cheney@ucs.cam.ac.uk To: bl10@cam.ac.uk Subject: winpine X-Sender: cjc1@imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I get 'abnormal program termination' on tidying a folder with a large number of deleted (say 60) and undeleted (say over 100) messages. --1900025479-976763494-805629201=:3826 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-ID: Content-Description: Re: winpine (fwd) Return-Path: Received: from ppsw3.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.38] (ident = pp) by bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Smail-3.1.29.0 #36) id m0sWKSp-000BzoC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 10:21 BST Received: from black.csi.cam.ac.uk by mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk with SMTP-CAM (XTPP8.1) as ppsw.cam.ac.uk; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:21:05 +0100 Received: from cjc-pc.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.10.155] by black.csi.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.0 #36) id m0sWKSe-000CBhC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 10:21 BST Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:21:29 -0100 (BST) From: Chris Cheney Reply-To: C.J.Cheney@ucs.cam.ac.uk To: bl10@cam.ac.uk Subject: Re: winpine X-Sender: cjc1@imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > I presume it is repeatable? I am sure that if so they will want the debug > info (pinedebg.txt) Looks as tho' it may be faulty conversion from Phx! ===================== Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 2). Version 3.91 Thu Jul 13 10:11:26 1995 reading_pinerc "C:\pine\pinerc" Read 6521 characters: ======= Current_val options set ======= user-domain : hermes.cam.ac.uk smtp-server : smtp.hermes.cam.ac.uk nntp-server : nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk inbox-path : {imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk}INBOX folder-collections : pc c:\pine\mail\[] : staff-server f:\pine\mail\[] : hermes {imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk}mail/[] default-fcc : savemail postponed-folder : postpond mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : savemail signature-file : pine.sig address-book : addrbook feature-list : expanded-view-of-folders : quit-without-confirm : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : include-header-in-reply : include-text-in-reply : enable-aggregate-command-set default-composer-hdr : To : Cc : Subject customized-hdrs : Reply-to: C.J.Cheney@ucs.cam.ac.uk saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last editor : notepad use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 95.7 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no newsrc-path : C:\pine\NEWSRC folder-extension : MTX normal-foreground-co : black normal-background-co : cyan reverse-foreground-c : black reverse-background-c : white font-name : Courier New font-size : 11 font-style : "" window-position : 85x28+18+52 ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (C:\pine\pinerc) ======= personal-name : Chris Cheney user-id : cjc1 user-domain : hermes.cam.ac.uk smtp-server : smtp.hermes.cam.ac.uk nntp-server : nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk inbox-path : {imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk}INBOX folder-collections : pc c:\pine\mail\[] : staff-server f:\pine\mail\[] : hermes {imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk}mail/[] default-fcc : savemail read-message-folder : savemail feature-list : expanded-view-of-folders : quit-without-confirm : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : include-header-in-reply : include-text-in-reply : enable-aggregate-command-set default-composer-hdr : To : Cc : Subject customized-hdrs : Reply-to: C.J.Cheney@ucs.cam.ac.uk editor : notepad last-time-prune-ques : 95.7 last-version-used : 3.91 normal-foreground-co : black normal-background-co : cyan reverse-foreground-c : black reverse-background-c : white font-name : Courier New font-size : 11 font-style : "" window-position : 85x28+18+52 ======= Global_val options set (pinerc) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sentmail postponed-folder : postpond mail-directory : mail signature-file : pine.sig address-book : addrbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no newsrc-path : C:\pine\NEWSRC folder-extension : MTX ======= Fixed_val options set (NO FIXED) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply include-header-in-reply include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys Userid: cjc1 Fullname: "Chris Cheney" User domain name being used "hermes.cam.ac.uk" Local Domain name being used "csi.cam.ac.uk" Host name being used "cjc-pc.csi.cam.ac.uk" Mail Domain name being used (by c-client too)"hermes.cam.ac.uk" Context c:\pine\mail\[] type: LOCAL Context c:\pine\mail\[] type: LOCAL Context f:\pine\mail\[] type: LOCAL Context {imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk}mail/[] type: REMOTE Context *{nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk/nntp}[] type: REMOTE BBOARD OLDTECH About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" IMAP mm_notify NIL : {imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk}INBOX : black.csi.cam.ac.uk IMAP2bis Service 7.4(70) at Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:11:35 +0100 (BST) Opened folder "{imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk}INBOX" with 50 messages Sorting by Arrival IMAP 10:11 7/13 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: C:\intruptd - mailcap_free - ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- === folder_screen called ==== - mailcap_free - ---- FOLDER SCREEN ---- IMAP 10:11 7/13 mm_log babble: lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk InterNetNews NNRP server INN 1.4 22-Dec-93 ready (posting ok). About to open folder "DEFAULT" inbox: "INBOX" Close - saved inbox state: max 50 Opened folder "C:\PINE\MAIL\DEFAULT" with 576 messages Sorting by Arrival ---- MAIL INDEX ---- ---- INDEX MANAGER ---- IMAP 10:11 7/13 mm_log parse: Junk at end of group: @phx.cam.ac.uk IMAP 10:11 7/13 mm_log parse: Junk at end of address: @phx.cam.ac.uk ----- MAIL VIEW ----- done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. IMAP 10:13 7/13 mm_log parse: Junk at end of group: @phx.cam.ac.uk IMAP 10:13 7/13 mm_log parse: Junk at end of address: @phx.cam.ac.uk IMAP 10:13 7/13 mm_log parse: Junk at end of group: @phx.cam.ac.uk IMAP 10:13 7/13 mm_log parse: Junk at end of address: @phx.cam.ac.uk done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. IMAP 10:16 7/13 mm_log babble: Check completed done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. ---- MAIL INDEX ---- ---- INDEX MANAGER ---- - expunge - Want_to read: y (121) IMAP 10:18 7/13 mm_log babble: Expunged 80 messages expunge complete cur:61 max:496 Sorting by Arrival about to end_tty_driver Pine Panic: Bad msgno in mail_fetchstructure --1900025479-976763494-805629201=:3826-- --1900025479-1110064587-805629201=:3826-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 03:28:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16053; Thu, 13 Jul 95 03:28:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18418; Thu, 13 Jul 95 03:22:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from post.tau.ac.il by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18408; Thu, 13 Jul 95 03:21:44 -0700 Received: from ccsg.tau.ac.il (harmony@ccsg.tau.ac.il [132.66.16.2]) by post.tau.ac.il (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA25006; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 13:23:50 +0300 Received: (harmony@localhost) by ccsg.tau.ac.il (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA04479; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:21:37 GMT Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 13:21:36 +0300 (IDT) From: Michael Haephrati To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Garbled text In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2076045310-2114421122-805630896=:899" Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2076045310-2114421122-805630896=:899 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am attaching the document. Please let me know how can I change it so I will be able to include it in email messages sent by Pine. -Michael. On Thu, 13 Jul 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > On Wed, 12 Jul 1995, Michael Haephrati wrote: > > > Whenever I send message that include text imported from an ASCII file > > (edited by 'pico'), I see it ok on screen but most of the people who > > receive such message, get it garbled with '=20' at the end of lines. > > This is because your message text includes one or both of these: > > * At least one character with an ASCII code out of the "usual" > range (32 through 126). > * At least one Very Long (several hundred?) characters long. > > When either of these is true the message text is encoded using "Quoted > Printable" encoding, a part of the MIME specification. > > When triggered Quoted Printable protects certain characters. For example, > * "Funny" characters are sent as "=XX", where "XX" is their ASCII > character code expressed in hexadecimal. > * Spaces at ends of lines or wrapped lines get protected ("=20"). > * Certain control characters normally accepted (eg, Tab) get > protected (Tab becomes "=09"). > > If the recipient is using a MIME-aware mailer then the Quoted Printable > encoding is automagically undone before the message text is displayed in > its original glory. However if the recipient isn't using a MIME-aware > mailer they get to see all the "=XX" stuff. > > One solution is for the sender to make sure they don't trigger Quoted > Printable encoding when they send the message. Another solution is for > the recipient to move to a modern MIME-aware mailer. :-) > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > .................................................... . Michael Haephrati . . 69 Jabotinsky st. Givatayim 53319 ISRAEL . . Phone/Fax: + 972 3 315 967 . . 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X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fDQpBbWF6aW5nIEFtaWdhCVVTQQkwNSw5NAlNdWx0aS1saW5n dWFsIFdvcmQgUHJvY2Vzc2luZwlSYXNodW1vbg0KX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18NClByb2R1Y3QgR3VpZGUJVVNBCS0JUmFzaHVt b24JCQlSYXNodW1vbg0KX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X18NCkFtaWdhIFVzZXIgSW50bC5FbmdsYW5kCTA5Lzk0CVJhc2h1bW9uIC0g dHJ5IGFuZCBidXkJCVJhc2h1bW9uDQpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fXw0KDQoNCg== ---2076045310-2114421122-805630896=:899-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 04:32:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17766; Thu, 13 Jul 95 04:32:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20344; Thu, 13 Jul 95 04:28:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20338; Thu, 13 Jul 95 04:28:25 -0700 Received: from [162.24.48.36] by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17801; Thu, 13 Jul 95 04:28:22 -0700 Message-Id: <9507131128.AA17801@shivafs.cac.washington.edu> From: mnibeck@aftas01.hq.af.mil Date: Thu, 13 Jul 95 07:28 EDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Content-Type: Content-Length: Status: O X-Status: Subject: Pine on UNISYS To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 07:28:27 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 212 Has anyone installed Pine on a UNISYS box. Could you provide me with some compiler falgs, etc hat might help. PICO compiles fine, but Pine blows up. Thanks for the info, Mike Nibeck mnibeck@aftas01.hq.af.mil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 06:32:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20179; Thu, 13 Jul 95 06:32:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21530; Thu, 13 Jul 95 06:26:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21518; Thu, 13 Jul 95 06:25:40 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 13 Jul 1995 13:59:44 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id OAA00645; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 14:05:16 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 14:05:15 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Forrest Gump Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Signature Help Needed In-Reply-To: <3u2pk1$9q3@eng_ser1.erg.cuhk.hk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Ummm...... Pine doesn't have "localsignature" and "remotesignature" variables to configure, at least not in a standard release of Pine 3.91. Are you thinking of Elm? For Pine, there is one variable, called "signature-file", which specifies the name of the file to be used as a signature. On UNIX this defaults to a file called ".signature" in your home directory. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 13 Jul 1995, Forrest Gump wrote: > Ralf Wenzel (n06600@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de) wrote: > > On 9 Jul 1995, Alan Summer wrote: > > > > I have a copy of the Pine user-guide, but it does > > > not answer my question of how, to establish a > > > signature for my e-mail. Can someone help? > > > First: I'm sorry, but my english ist very bad!!!! > > I don't know if i really understand your question, because it seems a > > very simple problem (->online help). You have to save a file (name: > > .signature) in your home-directory. Or you choose another name and configure > > to the setup. Or use control+R (Read File). > > Also you may need to configue you .pinerc file in you home directory as below: > localsignature=~/.signature > remotesignature = ~/.signature > > Martin > > > +-----------------------+-------------+-----------------------------------+ > > | Ralf Wenzel | ? | n06600@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de | > > | Kavallerieweg 18 | \|/ + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + > > | 33104 Paderborn (GER) | @ @ | PHONE: 0049 - 5254 - 87293 | > > +-----------------------+-oOO-(_)-OOo-+-----------------------------------+ > > > -- > ________________________________ > /| /| | Name:Martin Yan Age:20 | > ||__|| | Home page : | > / O O\__ http://www.cs.cuhk.hk/~mkyan | > / \ Talk to me, i am bored!!!! | > / \ \ | > / _ \ \ ---------------------------- > / |\____\ \ || > / | | | |\____/ || > / \|_|_|/ | __|| > / / \ |____| || > / | | /| | --| > | | |// |____ --| > * _ | |_|_|_| | \-/ > *-- _--\ _ \ // | > / _ \\ _ // | / > * / \_ /- | - | | > * ___ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________ _________ > _____________ ______________ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 07:16:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21020; Thu, 13 Jul 95 07:16:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21373; Thu, 13 Jul 95 07:06:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21367; Thu, 13 Jul 95 07:06:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWOhS-00038HC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 06:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hd-fxsts@pine.liii.com (Bruce Schuck) Subject: Pine on Unixware - Standalone Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 13:10:31 GMT Status: O X-Status: Howdy folks, I someone could give me some direction, I would greatly appreciate it. I am presently setting up a Unixware machine that for now is a standalone machine. However, since I dislike mail and mailx, I want to have pine running. I found that I had to link /usr/ucblib/sendmail to /usr/lib/sendmail and set the domainname. However the mail never gets sent. Typing in a user name in the "to:" field expands to user@machinename.domainname. But upon attempting to a message to another user on the machine, it is returned because it cannot find the host. Does anybody out there have this done? Perhaps I need to set a few things in the sendmail.cf file. Thanks for all your help in advance. -- Bruce P. Schuck President/CEO Asgard Systems, Inc. bruce@aps.org hd-fxsts@liii.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 07:34:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21479; Thu, 13 Jul 95 07:34:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22268; Thu, 13 Jul 95 07:29:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22262; Thu, 13 Jul 95 07:29:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWP0D-00038QC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 07:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tom Guptill) Subject: Re: PINE or POP for VMS?? Message-Id: <1995Jul12.222527.26582@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> References: <3tus68$2h3p@bubba.ucc.okstate.edu> <173D9BD32S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 95 22:25:27 GMT Status: O X-Status: >I've no reason to suppose it wouldn't build with your >particular platform. You don't say which TCP/IP you are >using: if it isn't Multinet then you'll also need a free >network library package called NETLIB. Has support for VMSMail transport been removed from the latest (free) version of Pine? I'm still running v3.89 (if it ain't broke...), and I didn't even bother with Netlib--you can tell Pine to call VMS Mail to send outbound messages. There are a few drawbacks -- you can't use IMAP or POP servers, you can't read news, and you can't speak properly to LISTPROC due to a problem with headers, but it lets me read and send mail without any trouble at all. I've heard that it's a bit slower this way, but I haven't noticed any problems. If all you need is inbound-outbound mail, just set it up to run with VMS mail and avoid the headaches. For reference, I'm running Pine VMS Pine 3.89beta under VMS 5.5 on a 7-node cluster with UCX on 6 nodes and a third-party TCPIP package on the seventh. We're also running PMDF, but the PMDF version of Pine is not installed. Tom -- -- |Tom Guptill I don't speak for UCC from this account. | |tgpt_ltd@DB1.CC.ROCHESTER.EDU Nobody speaks for WRUR. | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 08:52:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24355; Thu, 13 Jul 95 08:52:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23795; Thu, 13 Jul 95 08:48:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23783; Thu, 13 Jul 95 08:48:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWQNp-00038HC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 08:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: usaworld@aol.com (USAWORLD) Subject: PINE folder conversion to dbase? Date: 13 Jul 1995 11:07:26 -0400 Message-Id: <3u3cre$1j7@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: I use PINE on a UNIX system (world.std.com). I would like to download a selected PINE mail folder (e.g. to-reply-later) to my DOS pc and then convert the folder to a dbase file. Presently I must use Delrina's "Internet Messenger" to direct dial (rather than telnet) world.std.com, then "Internet Messenger" downloads the messages to my pc and stores them in dbase III compatible files. Hence the conversion of mail folders to dbase files is technically possible. How can I convert a PINE mail folder to a dbase file without using "Internet Messenger" ? Thanks in advance for your help. James Reese From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 08:52:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24420; Thu, 13 Jul 95 08:52:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23406; Thu, 13 Jul 95 08:48:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23400; Thu, 13 Jul 95 08:48:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWQJI-00038YC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 08:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: uzdc0020@sable.ox.ac.uk (Karl Harrison) Subject: Re: IMAP Client for Mac - {Eudora?} Date: 13 Jul 1995 15:04:07 GMT Message-Id: <3u3cl7$9ao@news.ox.ac.uk> References: Status: O X-Status: Roy Smith (roy@popmail.med.nyu.edu) wrote: : ted@itsa.ucsf.edu (Ted Eytan) wrote: : > I am seeking advice on a good IMAP client (ideally, a Eudora-esque, or : > even an IMAP-Eudora) and any information about IMAP vs. POP. I have : > investigated Mailstrom which seems pretty antiquated (the U distributes v. : > 1.05), and pine causes me to use up too much time over dialup lines. : A new entry in the field seems to be a commercial program called Simeon, : which I have no experience with. They have their own WWW site (pointed to : from the page cited above), but it's pretty useless as far as information : content goes, and is pretty high on my list of "most badly designed WWW : pages I've ever seen" :-) If thought that was bad, then you should have seen their most un-"Macintosh" like program Mac ECSMail which is the fore-runner to this Simeon. I tested for my old University the Mac Beta 2.x version of ESCMail and it was a very sad copy of the MS Windows based IMAP client program. I have not tried testing Simeon though I do still hope for the best...... However, my current University denies a Macintosh version exists, so I'll have to wait and see. I currently use Mail Drop, which is very good though still lacks the multiple mailbox feature. Karl -- _____________________________________________________________ | | | Dr. Karl Harrison IT Coordinator and Training Officer | | Inorganic Chemistry Laboratory, University of Oxford | | South Park's Road, Oxford, OX1 3QR, UK. | | Telephone: +44 (0)1865 270834 Fax: 01865 272690 | |____________ e-mail: karl.harrison@icl.ox.ac.uk _____________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 09:23:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26252; Thu, 13 Jul 95 09:23:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24314; Thu, 13 Jul 95 09:18:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24308; Thu, 13 Jul 95 09:18:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWQtp-00038HC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 09:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu (Supak Lailert) Subject: Re: Pine and EWAN Date: Thu, 13 Jul 95 14:20:04 GMT Message-Id: <3u3a2k$f6o_002@news.cris.com> References: <3tvggb$k54_001@news.cris.com> <3u20nu$413@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: In article <3u20nu$413@news1.wolfe.net>, Nancy McGough wrote: >lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu (Supak Lailert) writes: >>Go to Edit Configuration dialog box. Click on Emul. Options and change >>the value "Emulation name" from "DEC-VT100" to "vt100". Some UNIX >>system won't recognize the "DEC-VT100" terminal type. >I've also had problems with dec-vt100. On my version of Ewan (1.052) >the Options:Configuration:Emulation choices are: > DEC-VT100 > DEC-VT52 > ANSI Just select DEC-VT100 and do the followings.. You can change the emulation name in Options:Configuration:Emul. Options:Emulation Name. For example, you can rename DEC-VT100 to "vt100" or whatever. By doing this, when EWAN connect to remote machine, it'll tell remote machine that it is using "vt100" emulation instead of the default name "DEC-VT100". It works fine for me now. Regards, Supak Lailert From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 09:54:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27610; Thu, 13 Jul 95 09:54:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25271; Thu, 13 Jul 95 09:48:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from stallion.jsums.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25265; Thu, 13 Jul 95 09:48:26 -0700 Received: by stallion.jsums.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA18748; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 11:49:14 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 11:49:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Premnath Tirumalasetty To: internet-discussions-on-Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Unsubscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 11:18:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01335; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:18:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27257; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:13:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27249; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:13:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWSau-00038HC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown) Subject: Pine and file locking over NFS? Date: 13 Jul 1995 17:45:52 +0100 Message-Id: <3u3ik0$7m@marr.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: Hi, I've compiled up Pine on an SGI Indy under Irix 5.3, and also under SunOS4.1.3 OK. I'm working on pine 3.91. However, our mail spool is on the Sun, and when exported to the SGI machine the Indy pine hangs on opening the spool, presumably a problem with locking the file. Is this a known problem with Pine, or just generic with Sun/SGI mounts? Comments/fixes (maybe some option on the SGI fstab entry for the mail spool mount?) welcome. I guess the answer is I should be using IMAP :) Cheers, Tim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 11:20:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01470; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:20:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27297; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:14:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27291; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:14:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWSfb-00038QC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roseman@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Mark Roseman) Subject: Re: IMAP Client for Mac - {Eudora?} Date: 13 Jul 1995 17:08:09 GMT Message-Id: <3u3jtp$bea@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> References: <3u3cl7$9ao@news.ox.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: Roy Smith (roy@popmail.med.nyu.edu) wrote: >: A new entry in the field seems to be a commercial program called Simeon, >: which I have no experience with. They have their own WWW site (pointed to >: from the page cited above), but it's pretty useless as far as information >: content goes, and is pretty high on my list of "most badly designed WWW >: pages I've ever seen" :-) and then Karl Harrison wrote: >If thought that was bad, then you should have seen their most un-"Macintosh" >like program Mac ECSMail which is the fore-runner to this Simeon. I tested >for my old University the Mac Beta 2.x version of ESCMail and it was a very >sad copy of the MS Windows based IMAP client program. I have not tried >testing Simeon though I do still hope for the best...... However, my >current University denies a Macintosh version exists, so I'll have to >wait and see. the mac 2.x was as you say, a rotten (and never working) cheap port of a windows interface, and i'm glad it was never really released.. it was so far from "the right thing" its not funny. the new simeon interface is much better; in fact the entire metaphor was borrowed straight from the mac finder (the hierarchical list view). it is a much nicer system and much more consistent. there were a few complaints early on from some windows folk who thought it looked too much like a mac interface mind you. :-) mark caveat: i designed the interface -- Mark Roseman, Research Associate phone: (403) 220-3532 / 220-6087 Dept. of Computer Science fax: (403) 284-4707 University of Calgary email: roseman@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Calgary, Alta CANADA T2N 1N4 http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~roseman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 11:33:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02013; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:33:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27527; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:24:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27521; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:24:43 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24718; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:24:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 11:24:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Kurt Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Dual Edged Sword In-Reply-To: <3trvnr$l6b@news.paonline.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > But I have a more important question I would like to pose to you. > It's not anything wrong with PINE, either. > > Is there some way to have the system notify users who are in > application programs that they have received mail? Like the "write" > command? Can SENDMAIL be configured to do this? Or am I out of luck > altogether? > > aTdHvAaNnKcSe > > Kurt Risser Try looking at the "biff" command. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 11:38:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02373; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:38:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27535; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:27:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27529; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:27:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWSpF-00038IC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Pine and EWAN Date: 13 Jul 1995 02:34:38 GMT Message-Id: <3u20nu$413@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3tvggb$k54_001@news.cris.com> Status: O X-Status: lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu (Supak Lailert) writes: >Go to Edit Configuration dialog box. Click on Emul. Options and change >the value "Emulation name" from "DEC-VT100" to "vt100". Some UNIX >system won't recognize the "DEC-VT100" terminal type. I've also had problems with dec-vt100. On my version of Ewan (1.052) the Options:Configuration:Emulation choices are: DEC-VT100 DEC-VT52 ANSI Does anyone know how to deal with this or have suggestions for a better MS Windows telnet? Thanks, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 11:47:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02654; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:47:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27874; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:41:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27868; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:41:22 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25284; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:40:59 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 11:40:43 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Chris Stoddart Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine on several DEC Alphas? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 13 Jul 1995, Chris Stoddart wrote: > Hi, > > I've just been trying to install Pine 3.91 on a cluster of DEC Alphas running > OSF/1, and I can't quite get it to work right. Here is the situation: Several > workstations are connected to a serverto which incoming mail is delivered. > Users $HOME directories are NFS-mounted from the server, but the incoming > mailbox /var/spool/mail/$USER is local to each machine. > > Now when Pine starts up on any machine I want it to look in the INBOX on the > server for that person. This means using imapd. I've tried installing imapd > on the server and even on the client, but when you start Pine connection from > one of the client machines I get the message 'connection refused'. > Did you add imap to /etc/services and /etc/inetd.conf then restart inetd on the server? A very basic test to see if imapd is properly configured is to telnet to the IMAP port (143) on the server. If you get a one-line banner, it is working... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMAVott/IU4uTDdHNAQG98gH/QpvOM9czQygMSrBe2JVFNlqHzyRZIaFG 9ONdleHZT6F4kI8vKAbH1YsRqQKYAlFJ9cSlrcuBNHKxlHb+24pT1A== =3X5V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 12:03:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03364; Thu, 13 Jul 95 12:03:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28251; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:53:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28245; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:53:44 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25613; Thu, 13 Jul 95 11:50:10 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 11:50:00 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Michael Haephrati Cc: Mike Brudenell , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Garbled text In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The following excerpt includes several 8-bit characters (pointed to by '^' on the next line): Hardware/Operating System: PC: I.B.M.:=A0 Dos=AC=A0OS2=AC=A0Windows 3.11 ^ ^ Macintosh: System 7.1=AC ^ =A0 Amiga: WorkBench 2 / 3=AE ^ Other: Digital VAX=BA Unix=AC=A0Silicon Graphics=BA=A0Motif=AC=A0X-Wind= ows, ^ ^ ^ ^ VMS =AE ^ There are also other occurances, but I didn't look exhaustively... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 13 Jul 1995, Michael Haephrati wrote: > Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 13:21:36 +0300 (IDT) > From: Michael Haephrati > To: Mike Brudenell > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Garbled text > > I am attaching the document. Please let me know how can I change it so I > will be able to include it in email messages sent by Pine. > > -Michael. > On Thu, 13 Jul 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > On Wed, 12 Jul 1995, Michael Haephrati wrote: > > > > > Whenever I send message that include text imported from an ASCII file > > > (edited by 'pico'), I see it ok on screen but most of the people who > > > receive such message, get it garbled with '=3D20' at the end of lines= . > > > > This is because your message text includes one or both of these: > > > > =09* At least one character with an ASCII code out of the "usual" > > =09 range (32 through 126). > > =09* At least one Very Long (several hundred?) characters long. > > > > When either of these is true the message text is encoded using "Quoted > > Printable" encoding, a part of the MIME specification. > > > > When triggered Quoted Printable protects certain characters. For examp= le, > > =09* "Funny" characters are sent as "=3DXX", where "XX" is their ASCII > > =09 character code expressed in hexadecimal. > > =09* Spaces at ends of lines or wrapped lines get protected ("=3D20"). > > =09* Certain control characters normally accepted (eg, Tab) get > > =09 protected (Tab becomes "=3D09"). > > > > If the recipient is using a MIME-aware mailer then the Quoted Printable > > encoding is automagically undone before the message text is displayed i= n > > its original glory. However if the recipient isn't using a MIME-aware > > mailer they get to see all the "=3DXX" stuff. > > > > One solution is for the sender to make sure they don't trigger Quoted > > Printable encoding when they send the message. Another solution is for > > the recipient to move to a modern MIME-aware mailer. :-) > > > > Mike Brudenell > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, U= K > > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1= / > > > > .................................................... > . Michael Haephrati . > . 69 Jabotinsky st. Givatayim 53319 ISRAEL . > . Phone/Fax: + 972 3 315 967 . > . Email: harmony@ccsg.tau.ac.il . > .................................................... > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMAVq3t/IU4uTDdHNAQGUBQH9FyVw/kzPQR5t8Z4bhkRpD6nrLLOoRga+ doc9vk1iF1MVtgRFx+YXEAzj1ovL/9Mrub6gR9S8Ufb/vL+cWAyH2g=3D=3D =3D3UEU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 13:09:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06760; Thu, 13 Jul 95 13:09:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29572; Thu, 13 Jul 95 12:53:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29566; Thu, 13 Jul 95 12:53:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWUFH-00038HC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 12:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jmeddaug@cris.com (JOM) Subject: Re: mailing list help Date: 13 Jul 1995 04:06:06 GMT Message-Id: <3u263f$gc@warp.cris.com> References: <3ts6kn$39@warp.cris.com> Status: O X-Status: vs@utia.cas.cz ("Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?=)") writes: >On 10 Jul 1995, JOM wrote: >> >: I run a mailing list with Pine and the addressbook. Is there a way to= >=20 >> >: make each message I say start with=20 >> >: =20 >> >: From: Commo Mailing List >>=20 >> >: or similar? Thanks. >>=20 >> >There is a simple way to do this. Just set your personal name using=20 >> >Pine's config feature. just set it to Commo Mailing list. >>=20 >> Making this more clear, regular mail goes through this mailbox too and I= >=20 >> don't want to be changing it back and forth all the time. >So have two configuration files (.pinerc and for instance .mail-list and >for mailing list, start the pine with `-p $HOME/.mail-list' option. Well I moved the list to Majordomo and don't worry about it now. -- Write for info about the Commo Mailing J.J. Meddaugh, Email: jmeddaug@cris.com list and Commo Music Player. Join alt.comp.blind-users today! Got any game shows on video? Write me. Check out the fun at Michi-Web: Author of the TC BBS List for Mid-Mich. http://www.cris.com/~jmeddaug From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 13:39:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07818; Thu, 13 Jul 95 13:39:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00326; Thu, 13 Jul 95 13:28:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00320; Thu, 13 Jul 95 13:28:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWUog-00038HC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 13:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike MacKenzie Subject: Re: Garbled text Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 15:10:03 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 13 Jul 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > On Wed, 12 Jul 1995, Michael Haephrati wrote: > > > Whenever I send message that include text imported from an ASCII file > > (edited by 'pico'), I see it ok on screen but most of the people who > > receive such message, get it garbled with '=20' at the end of lines. > > This is because your message text includes one or both of these: > > * At least one character with an ASCII code out of the "usual" > range (32 through 126). > * At least one Very Long (several hundred?) characters long. [snip] > > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > I'vbe been struggling with the same problem, and I have a couple of questions about what you say here. First, in the second cireteria for triggering the MIME translation routine It seems you left our a word... "at least one Very Long..." what? I think you mean a very long *line* but I'm not sure... Also, I have a question about the which characters will trigger the MIME translation routines. You seem to be saying that any character code less than ASCII 32 will trigger it, but aren't newline characters ASCII 13, and tab characters 9? If these characters trigger "Quoted Printable" wouldn't every message that is more than one line long be translated this way? Thanks for you help, Mike MacKenzie mmackenz@indiana.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 13:40:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07901; Thu, 13 Jul 95 13:40:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00500; Thu, 13 Jul 95 13:28:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00494; Thu, 13 Jul 95 13:28:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWUpi-00038LC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 13:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: PINE or POP for VMS?? Message-Id: <173DA13370S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <3tus68$2h3p@bubba.ucc.okstate.edu> <173D9BD32S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> <1995Jul12.222527.26582@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 20:51:43 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <1995Jul12.222527.26582@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tom Guptill) writes: >>I've no reason to suppose it wouldn't build with your >>particular platform. You don't say which TCP/IP you are >>using: if it isn't Multinet then you'll also need a free >>network library package called NETLIB. > >Has support for VMSMail transport been removed from the latest (free) >version of Pine? It's still there. I composed that reply "on the hoof" and had forgotten this possibility - sorry. As a matter of fact, I got all kinds of strange results when I tried it, but as Yehavi recommended the other method, I built the software with the Multinet option and made no attempt to find the cause of the problems with VMSMail "foreign protocol" method of operation. >I'm still running v3.89 (if it ain't broke...), and I >didn't even bother with Netlib--you can tell Pine to call VMS Mail to send >outbound messages. There are a few drawbacks -- you can't use IMAP or POP >servers, you can't read news, and you can't speak properly to LISTPROC due >to a problem with headers, but it lets me read and send mail without any >trouble at all. ...(other platform details omitted). Thanks for pointing out my oversight (which would, I suppose, have become clear if the questioner had read my html page and started to install the package. Fortunately, fetching an unwanted copy of some free software isn't _too_ harmful ;-) And for posting your experiences. I do recommend running the current version, there are some nice enhancements, but I should mention that if and when you decide to make the transition yourself, you will need to make some manual adjustments in your configuration. Again this is mentioned in my web file. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 13:41:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07941; Thu, 13 Jul 95 13:41:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00635; Thu, 13 Jul 95 13:33:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tioga.upb.pitt.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00629; Thu, 13 Jul 95 13:33:36 -0700 Received: by tioga.upb.pitt.edu (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA23151; Thu, 13 Jul 95 16:35:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 16:32:56 -0400 (EDT) From: john slimick Subject: Group redirection To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: We just finished a workshop here and the participants want a way of posting mail to an address on this machine (tioga.upb.pitt.edu) that broadcasts the mail to all the participants. I created a mailing list for my uses in contacting people, but how can that be used to redirect mail to 24 addresses or so? Thx in advance John Slimick slimick@tioga.upb.pitt.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 15:03:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11154; Thu, 13 Jul 95 15:03:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02195; Thu, 13 Jul 95 14:53:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02189; Thu, 13 Jul 95 14:53:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWW76-00038HC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 14:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: a WOULD BE NICE suggestion Date: 13 Jul 1995 20:51:50 GMT Message-Id: <3u4116$hns@tadpole.fc.hp.com> Status: O X-Status: Pine is great! Someday, it would be even greater if filename completion (i.e., ESC-ESC) were added for Saving to or Reading from a file. In case I'm not making myself clear... I'm talking about the standard sort of Unix shell feature where you where wanting to do rm ~/temp_stuff/document.v50a you could use automatic completion to specify the sub-directory temp_stuff and then again to specify document.v50a by typing enough characters to identify the string you meant and pressing ESC-ESC. -- + DAVID MULLANEY Email: mullaney@fc.hp.com (970) 229-7629 + + Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 15:24:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11911; Thu, 13 Jul 95 15:24:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03038; Thu, 13 Jul 95 15:13:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03032; Thu, 13 Jul 95 15:13:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWWI3-00038IC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 14:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: morrisa@netcom.com (Alan Morris) Subject: Extract section of listserv digest? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 21:38:01 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi, I'm on a high noise to signal list, and have invoked the digest option. I'd like to extract the one or two sections of the long digest message and save, but haven't been able to accomplish this yet. I use Pine with a Unix shell account. I'm aware of the ctrl-k for cutting, and the other basic commands, but can't seem to save to a different file after finding the section of the digest article that I want. BTW, is there a command for jumping to the end of an article while reading Pine? I guess the actual text processing is done via Pico, but I haven't been able to find anything better than jumping one screen up or back. Thanks for any help, Alan -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 16:19:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14618; Thu, 13 Jul 95 16:19:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04264; Thu, 13 Jul 95 16:11:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04258; Thu, 13 Jul 95 16:11:09 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14276; Thu, 13 Jul 95 16:11:09 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 16:11:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Kramer To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine Information Center announcement Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: The Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web (URL: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/) now offers archives of the previous six months of messages from the Pine-Info mailing list. For each month, there is a main index that lists all messages alphabetically by subject, as well as a new thread index that lists all message threads in chronological order. The "Search Pine-Info Discussion Archives" page now contains an explanation of the Boolean search functions of the index. Other additions to the Pine Information Center include: o an brief overview of Pine o a separate "How to get the Pine software" section for different operating systems o a pointer to the Pine release notes -------------------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Kramer e-mail: skramer@cac.washington.edu Network Information Center University of Washington Box 354841 Seattle, WA 98105-4527, USA -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 17:50:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18795; Thu, 13 Jul 95 17:50:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06308; Thu, 13 Jul 95 17:47:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from poblano.near.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06302; Thu, 13 Jul 95 17:47:27 -0700 Received: from poblano.near.net by poblano.bbnplanet.com id aa13757; 13 Jul 95 20:46 EDT From: Charlotte Mooers To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: mooers@bbnplanet.com Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 20:46:20 -0400 Message-Id: <9507132046.aa13757@poblano.bbnplanet.com> Status: O X-Status: Unsubscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 21:25:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23447; Thu, 13 Jul 95 21:25:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08027; Thu, 13 Jul 95 21:19:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08021; Thu, 13 Jul 95 21:19:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWc4I-00038HC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 21:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ray McAllister Subject: Configuring setup for pine Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 22:47:44 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: If this melts your heart, p[lease suggest what I should do. I have tried to configure my setup in pine and so far have lost me addressbook, have not made a bit of difference on other matters except that my name is correct. Where may I download a pine 3.9 or 3.91 manual, please? Thanks in advance. Ray McAllister, Prof (Emeritus) Ocean Eng., FAU, Boca Raton, FL 33064 Diving Dinosaur, Geologist/Oceanographer/Ocean Engineer, 43 years SCUBA mcallist@gate.net (305) 426-0808, Author Diving Locations, Boynton/Dania From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 22:59:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25866; Thu, 13 Jul 95 22:59:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10670; Thu, 13 Jul 95 22:54:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10664; Thu, 13 Jul 95 22:54:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWdcn-00038IC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 22:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: salvig@logica.com (Giordy Salvi) Subject: Re: IMAP Client for Mac - {Eudora?} Message-Id: References: <3u3cl7$9ao@news.ox.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 16:31:23 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <3u3cl7$9ao@news.ox.ac.uk>, uzdc0020@sable.ox.ac.uk (Karl Harrison) says: > >Roy Smith (roy@popmail.med.nyu.edu) wrote: >: ted@itsa.ucsf.edu (Ted Eytan) wrote: >: > I am seeking advice on a good IMAP client (ideally, a Eudora-esque, or >: > even an IMAP-Eudora) and any information about IMAP vs. POP. I have >: > investigated Mailstrom which seems pretty antiquated (the U distributes v. >: > 1.05), and pine causes me to use up too much time over dialup lines. > > >: A new entry in the field seems to be a commercial program called Simeon, >: which I have no experience with. They have their own WWW site (pointed to >: from the page cited above), but it's pretty useless as far as information >: content goes, and is pretty high on my list of "most badly designed WWW >: pages I've ever seen" :-) > Any chance of reposting that web page? However bad, it might be interesting? Thanks. Giordy Salvi salvig@logica.com These are my opinions and no way my employer could ever dream them up. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 01:49:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00267; Fri, 14 Jul 95 01:49:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11128; Fri, 14 Jul 95 01:32:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11122; Fri, 14 Jul 95 01:32:52 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:29:14 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA04467; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:34:38 +0100 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:34:37 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: john slimick Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Group redirection In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Assuming that when you say "I created a mailing list for my users" you're talking about a list entry in Pine's address book... The answer is "you probably can't". The reason is that Pine's address book "list" feature should be thought of more as a "personal distribution list" rather than a "mailing list". In particular if this is defined in your personal address book then it is only you who can use it (via its nickname) when composing a message. You can set up a "global address book" which is in effect a centrally held read-only address book that can be used by people on the same machine running Pine. Indeed this _may_ be what you're after doing. However if you are hoping for a way of your users sending a message to a "special" e-mail address and then have this remailed out to the list members automatically then Pine does not (cannot) do this. This is because Pine is a Mail User Agent (MUA). This is a fancy name for saying it lets you read through messages that have *already* been delivered into your mailbox file. The thing that actually delivers the messages there is called a Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) and is usually a system program such as "sendmail". It is the task of the MTA to decide what to do with an arriving message: whether it is simply to be delivered into the user's mailbox, or processed in some other way (eg, remailed to a list of people). This is typically achieved by using the MTA's redirection facility ("sendmail" uses a file called ".forward" in your home directory) to send the arriving message through special software to process/recognise the message and handle.redistribute it appropriately. An example of a software package to do this analysis is "procmail". So the sequence becomes: User sends message to special username MTA prepares to deliver to special username, buts spots redirection Message is redirected into (eg) procmail for handling Procmail remails the message to a list of people Note that this is fine if the list of people is to be centrally maintained by a human (they'll need to modify/update the procmail control file for the special username). If you're after something that can handle a list and allow people to subscribe or unsubscribe from the list (semi-)automatically by sending e-mailed commands then you need to be looking at running some list serving software instead of using procmail. Examples include "listserv" and "majordomo". Hope this helps a bit. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 13 Jul 1995, john slimick wrote: > > We just finished a workshop here and the participants > want a way of posting mail to an address on this machine > (tioga.upb.pitt.edu) that broadcasts the mail to all the > participants. I created a mailing list for my uses in > contacting people, but how can that be used to redirect > mail to 24 addresses or so? > > Thx in advance > John Slimick > slimick@tioga.upb.pitt.edu > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 01:50:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00320; Fri, 14 Jul 95 01:50:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11254; Fri, 14 Jul 95 01:42:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11248; Fri, 14 Jul 95 01:41:56 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:38:23 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA05312; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:43:56 +0100 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:43:56 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Mike MacKenzie Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Garbled text In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 13 Jul 1995, Mike MacKenzie wrote: > On 13 Jul 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > This is because your message text includes one or both of these: > > > > * At least one character with an ASCII code out of the "usual" > > range (32 through 126). > > * At least one Very Long (several hundred?) characters long. > > I'vbe been struggling with the same problem, and I have a couple of > questions about what you say here. > > First, in the second cireteria for triggering the MIME translation > routine It seems you left our a word... "at least one Very Long..." > what? I think you mean a very long *line* but I'm not sure... Yup... it should have read: * At least one Very Long line (several hundredr?) characters long. > Also, I have a question about the which characters will trigger the MIME > translation routines. You seem to be saying that any character code less > than ASCII 32 will trigger it, but aren't newline characters ASCII 13, > and tab characters 9? If these characters trigger "Quoted Printable" > wouldn't every message that is more than one line long be translated this > way? I was trying to be a little vague as I'v never quite ascertained which control characters (ASCII codes less than 32) are "acceptable" (ie, don't trigger Quoted Printable) in isolation. More specifically: * You're safe with ASCII characters 32-126 * You *might* be safe (I don't know: experiment! :-) with ASCII character 127 (it's unusual, but not an 8th bit set character code) * You *are* safe with certain (all?) characters with ASCII codes less than 32. So the presence of a Tab (ASCII code 9 (decimal)) does not trigger Quoted Printable, for example. However, *once triggered* by some other condition Quoted Printable *does* then protect these usually-acceptable characters. So if a message is encoded in Quoted Printable because, say, an 8th bit set character is present, then Tabs *do* get Quoted. I find it very strange that an "acceptable" character suddenly is deemed "unacceptable" because of the presence of some other character elsewhere. Whether this anomaly lies in the specification of Quoted Printable within MIME, or within Pine's implementation of it I don't know. (I suspect the former, as the Pine Team are pretty hot on sticking to specifications as a rule -- anyone "in the know" care to comment?) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 02:04:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00648; Fri, 14 Jul 95 02:04:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11340; Fri, 14 Jul 95 01:52:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11334; Fri, 14 Jul 95 01:51:53 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:40:54 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA05516; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:46:16 +0100 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:46:15 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: David Mullaney Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: a WOULD BE NICE suggestion In-Reply-To: <3u4116$hns@tadpole.fc.hp.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Yes, I agree.... Completion is there for folder names (press Tab to complete a name, providing you have the appropriate feature turned on in the Setup Configuration screen). However it doesn't seem to work for filenames (saving, including text, attaching files). Is this one for the Pine Team to consider? Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 13 Jul 1995, David Mullaney wrote: > Pine is great! > > Someday, it would be even greater if filename completion (i.e., ESC-ESC) > were added for Saving to or Reading from a file. > > In case I'm not making myself clear... I'm talking about the standard sort > of Unix shell feature where you where wanting to do > rm ~/temp_stuff/document.v50a > you could use automatic completion to specify the sub-directory temp_stuff and > then again to specify document.v50a by typing enough characters to identify > the string you meant and pressing ESC-ESC. > > -- > + DAVID MULLANEY Email: mullaney@fc.hp.com (970) 229-7629 + > + Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 -*- fax 2838 + > + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + > + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 02:10:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00769; Fri, 14 Jul 95 02:10:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11469; Fri, 14 Jul 95 02:04:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11463; Fri, 14 Jul 95 02:04:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWgWK-00038LC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 01:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Haephrati Subject: Garbled text Message-Id: <1995Jul12.173332.27782@linkoping.trab.se> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 17:33:32 GMT Status: O X-Status: Subject: Garbled text Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Summary: Keywords: X-Newsreader: TIN Yversion 1.2 PL2" Whenever I send message that include text imported from an ASCII file (edited by 'pico'), I see it ok on screen but most of the people who receive such message, get it garbled with '=20' at the end of lines. Another problem: Sometimes after running the 'spell' process, attempting to 'perform take address' on more than 50 addresses, Pine terminates stating there is a bug. Why does this happen and how can I get back without loosing what I was working on. Please reply directly to my account. .................................................... . Michael Haephrati . . 69 Jabotinsky st. Givatayim 53319 ISRAEL . . Phone/Fax: + 972 3 315 967 . . Email: harmony@ccsg.tau.ac.il . .................................................... .................................................... . Michael Haephrati . . 69 Jabotinsky st. Givatayim 53319 ISRAEL . . Phone/Fax: + 972 3 315 967 . . Email: harmony@ccsg.tau.ac.il . .................................................... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 02:15:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00938; Fri, 14 Jul 95 02:15:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13265; Fri, 14 Jul 95 02:04:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13259; Fri, 14 Jul 95 02:04:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWgZQ-00038QC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 01:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tim Simpson Subject: Newbie Questions Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:39:41 GMT Message-Id: <648574608wnr@cddc.demon.co.uk> Status: O X-Status: hello, I have just downloaded a copy of pine 3.91 and a couple of points come up after reading the tech notes. Perhaps someone could answer these or point me in the direction of the FAQ. 1. Can pine be used for posting to usenet newsgroups the tech notes seem to suggest that it can open netnews folders in read only mode. Or is it that it can only read the posted articles but when you reply it creates a new article. Perhaps someone can elucidate further. 2. How does Imap work the tech notes do not seem to fully explain how you communicate with it. How does your incoming mail get from sendmail or whatever is used to receive it to imap. Or does imap simply read your unix mailbox when requied and pass these to the pine client. TIA best wishes Tim _______________________________________________________________________ Tim Simpson Dundee City Council Scotland Email tim@cddc.demon.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1382 434164 http://metro.turnpike.net/tim/index.html All views expressed are my own not my employers From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 03:12:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02075; Fri, 14 Jul 95 03:12:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13934; Fri, 14 Jul 95 02:57:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13916; Fri, 14 Jul 95 02:55:12 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:51:28 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id KAA10680; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:57:00 +0100 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:56:59 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Tim Simpson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Newbie Questions In-Reply-To: <648574608wnr@cddc.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 14 Jul 1995, Tim Simpson wrote: > 1. Can pine be used for posting to usenet newsgroups Yes, providing you have access to an NNTP server (news server) that you are allowed to post articles to without having to supply it with any authentication information (username and password). > the tech notes seem to suggest that it can open netnews folders in > read only mode. Or is it that it can only read the posted articles > but when you reply it creates a new article. Perhaps someone can > elucidate further. Pine can use either the IMAP or NNTP protocols to read Usenet News articles. The former only works if your IMAP server has access to the filestore holding the Usenet News files and has been properly configured. The simplest way is to use NNTP. Start Pine and, at the Main Menu, go into the Setup Configuration screen (by typing "S" then "C"). Now move down to the "nntp-server" variable and use the Add (A) command to set its value to the full IP name of your news server. This often looks something like "news.blah.blah.blah". Leave the Setup Configuration screen using Exit (E), and try doing a List Folders (L). You should see a "News-collection" appears. Move the cursor down to this and subscribe to some newsgroups using the Subscribe (A) command. Note that using NNTP in this way to read news keeps the list of subscribed newsgroups and read articles (usually in a file called ".newsrc" for UNIX) on the computer you're running Pine on. The advantage of reading Usenet News via IMAP is that the IMAP server itself maintains the ".newsrc" file, so you get to see the same lists of subscribed newsgroups and read articles no matter which machine you are reading from. > 2. How does Imap work the tech notes do not seem to fully explain how > you communicate with it. How does your incoming mail get from > sendmail or whatever is used to receive it to imap. Or does imap > simply read your unix mailbox when requied and pass these to the > pine client. Sendmail delivers arriving messages into your usualy mailbox entirely normally. The IMAP daemon then gives you access to this mailbox (and any other mail folders you create). There is no direct communication between sendmail and the IMAP daemon. You can find more information, and the FAQ, about Pine at the Pine Information Centre on the World-Wide Web: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 03:46:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02706; Fri, 14 Jul 95 03:46:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12352; Fri, 14 Jul 95 03:31:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12346; Fri, 14 Jul 95 03:31:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWhu6-00038HC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 03:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sam Liddicott Subject: about octet-stream Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:08:14 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I find it confusing that in sending a binary (say /bin/echo) to myself, pine encodes it as Application/octet-stream; yet when I get the message, it claims to know nothing about such a format!!! - I can't decode it! Please, also, could some dear pine user send me a copy of their mailcap file. Thanks indeedy. +------------------------ | sam@csluk.demon.co.uk Tho' I may like green eggs and ham | | you may NOT call me Sam-I-Am | | Campbell Scientific Ltd | -----------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 05:24:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05424; Fri, 14 Jul 95 05:24:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15850; Fri, 14 Jul 95 05:11:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15844; Fri, 14 Jul 95 05:11:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWjUT-00038QC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 05:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rz4a012@rrz.uni-hamburg.de Subject: Printing ALL Date: 14 Jul 1995 10:57:58 GMT Message-Id: <3u5ijm$jtd@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I want to print all my e-mail message from the past year, since I won't have this account for much longer and also for achive reeasons However, I don't seem to be able to print more than one message... Is there anyway to print all of a range of messages in PINE Peter rz4a012@rrz.uni-hamburg.de From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 06:14:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06223; Fri, 14 Jul 95 06:14:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13969; Fri, 14 Jul 95 06:00:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13963; Fri, 14 Jul 95 06:00:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWkDD-00038LC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 05:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wendt@umich.edu (Wendt) Subject: Address consolidatin Date: 14 Jul 1995 12:26:29 GMT Message-Id: <3u5npl$t61@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Status: O X-Status: I have two accounts (one new). How can I use my old address book with my new account? They are on separate systems. Is it just a dot file which can be easily copied over? Thanks in advance. -- _____________________ Al Wendt Email: wendt@umich.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 06:41:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06730; Fri, 14 Jul 95 06:41:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16907; Fri, 14 Jul 95 06:36:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16901; Fri, 14 Jul 95 06:36:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWkoD-00038LC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 06:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shawnh@gold.interlog.com (Shawn Highfield) Subject: Mailbox Lock Date: 14 Jul 1995 13:05:27 GMT Message-Id: <3u5q2n$8j4@steel.interlog.com> Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 07:06:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07093; Fri, 14 Jul 95 07:06:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14579; Fri, 14 Jul 95 07:00:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14573; Fri, 14 Jul 95 07:00:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWl9o-00038HC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 06:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: benny@rad.net.id (Benny Chandra) Subject: MS-Mail,PegasusMail to Eudora Mail Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 03:52:22 GMT Message-Id: <3u4t8u$qks@ns1.rad.net.id> Status: O X-Status: Is there any freeware or shareware that can convert mail format from MS-MAIL or from Pegasus Mail to Eudora mail format automatically ? Please help me where can I find it. Thank's. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 07:09:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07260; Fri, 14 Jul 95 07:09:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14490; Fri, 14 Jul 95 06:55:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14484; Fri, 14 Jul 95 06:55:21 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:51:43 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id OAA28791; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:57:15 +0100 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:57:15 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: rz4a012@rrz.uni-hamburg.de Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Printing ALL In-Reply-To: <3u5ijm$jtd@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Pine offers a very useful collection of commands referred to as "aggregate commands". Before you can use any of them you need to go to the Setup Configuration screen and select the "enable-aggregate-command-set" feature. Having done this you will have the following new command available when in the Index of your messages: ; Select - Selects messages according to a criterion. (Can narrow (AND) or widen (OR) the list of selected messages by using Select again followed by Narrow or Widen respectively.) Z Zoom - Restrict the index to just the selected messages; other messages are hidden. Another Z will restore the full list A Apply - Applies a command to all the selected messages. Thus to print all your messages: ; Select A All messages A Apply Y Print command This feature can also be used when reading Usenet News to "catch-up" in a newsgroup by selecting all the articles then applying a delete to them: ;AAD Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 14 Jul 1995 rz4a012@rrz.uni-hamburg.de wrote: > I want to print all my e-mail message from the past > year, since I won't have this account for much longer > and also for achive reeasons > > However, I don't seem to be able to print more than > one message... > > Is there anyway to print all of a range of messages > in PINE > > Peter > > rz4a012@rrz.uni-hamburg.de > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 07:32:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07850; Fri, 14 Jul 95 07:32:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17555; Fri, 14 Jul 95 07:20:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17549; Fri, 14 Jul 95 07:20:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWlVD-00038HC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 07:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ctomasi@plexus.com (Chuck Tomasi) Subject: Re: IMAP Client for Mac - {Eudora?} Date: 14 Jul 1995 08:59:43 -0500 Message-Id: <3u5t8f$3gt@cuckoo.pd.tgi.plexus.com> References: <3u3cl7$9ao@news.ox.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: >In article <3u3cl7$9ao@news.ox.ac.uk>, uzdc0020@sable.ox.ac.uk (Karl Harrison) says: >> >>Roy Smith (roy@popmail.med.nyu.edu) wrote: >>: ted@itsa.ucsf.edu (Ted Eytan) wrote: >>: > I am seeking advice on a good IMAP client (ideally, a Eudora-esque, or >>: > even an IMAP-Eudora) and any information about IMAP vs. POP. I have >>: > investigated Mailstrom which seems pretty antiquated (the U distributes v. >>: > 1.05), and pine causes me to use up too much time over dialup lines. One good application that I'm aware of is called MailDrop. I believe the current version is 1.1. I don't recall where I got it from (some FTP site out there), but it shouldn't be too hard to find. It works fairly well. The only problem I had was entering my password. For some reason it didn't like mine, but it would accept everyone else's. I finally found out that I was a little too anal about adding non-alphanum characters and MailDrop didn't want to work with a space in my password. Unlike PINE and the same password on a UNIX system which did work. -- Chuck Tomasi // chuck.tomasi@plexus.com Systems Administrator // http://www.edsi.org/~ctomasi/ Technology Group Inc. // MiSTie#2356 "It's only in retrospect that we are able to determine who is a visionary and who is an idiot" -- Chuck Tomasi, 1995 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 07:40:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08068; Fri, 14 Jul 95 07:40:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15025; Fri, 14 Jul 95 07:36:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15019; Fri, 14 Jul 95 07:36:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWlme-00038HC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 07:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cstu@loc.gov (Colleen Stumbaugh) Subject: Re: Addressbook Date: 14 Jul 1995 14:03:26 GMT Message-Id: <3u5tfe$1b2q@rs7.loc.gov> References: Status: O X-Status: Richard, Your address file is an ascii text file and can be edited with vi, pico or even exported to a word processsing program and then re-imported. If you have a list also in ascii, you could edit it to match the addressbook's style and then retrieve it into your address file as additional text. You will want to look at the current address file format first. Hope this helps. Colleen _________________________________________________________________________ Colleen R.C. Stumbaugh, Senior Processing Librarian CSTU@LOC.GOV Library of Congress (202) 707-4132 Washington, DC 20540-4861 FAX: (202) 707-4142 These opinions are mine, Mine MINE! __________________________________________________________________________ Richard Reichart (reichart@pluto.njcc.com) wrote: : Is there any way to import a set of email addresses into my addressbook : without retyping each and every one of them? : ... Dick Reichart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 07:48:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08279; Fri, 14 Jul 95 07:48:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15081; Fri, 14 Jul 95 07:40:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from UTKVX1.UTK.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15075; Fri, 14 Jul 95 07:40:44 -0700 Received: from utkvx.utk.edu by utkvx.utk.edu (PMDF V5.0-4 #9964) id <01HSUVNQATKW91X5TC@utkvx.utk.edu> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:40:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 10:40:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael Gregory Abel, University of Tennessee" Subject: signature line at end of mail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: Can anyone help me set up a signature line that is automatically added to mail text that I write in Pine? I have accessed the www sites and FAQ's concerning questions about Pine but have been unable to find the information I need. Thank you, Greg Abel Abel@utkvx.utk.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 08:53:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10599; Fri, 14 Jul 95 08:53:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15988; Fri, 14 Jul 95 08:32:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15982; Fri, 14 Jul 95 08:32:40 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:27:49 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id QAA09979; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:33:26 +0100 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:33:26 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: "Michael Gregory Abel, University of Tennessee" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: signature line at end of mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Assuming you are using the UNIX version of Pine... Simply use your favourite editor to create a file called ".signature" in your home directory. Put in this file any text you want included at the end of each message you send. General advice is to keep it 4 lines long or less. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 14 Jul 1995, Michael Gregory Abel, University of Tennessee wrote: > > Can anyone help me set up a signature line that is automatically > added to mail text that I write in Pine? I have accessed the www sites > and FAQ's concerning questions about Pine but have been unable to find > the information I need. > > > Thank you, > > Greg Abel > Abel@utkvx.utk.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 10:08:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14714; Fri, 14 Jul 95 10:08:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21007; Fri, 14 Jul 95 09:50:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vm1.NoDak.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21001; Fri, 14 Jul 95 09:50:10 -0700 Received: from orca.fhcrc.org by VM1.NoDak.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 14 Jul 95 11:49:41 CDT Received: by orca.fhcrc.org (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA13597; Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:49:55 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:49:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Brent Blumenstein To: Stefan Kramer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Information Center announcement In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: This is great - thanks. I may now be able to unsubscribe and simply check these archives periodically for any news about OS/2 pine - my specific interest. -- Brent A. Blumenstein | tel.: 206 667 4623 Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center | fax: 206 667 4408 1124 Columbia Street MP-557 | e-mail: brentb@orca.fhcrc.org Seattle, WA 98104 USA | On Thu, 13 Jul 1995, Stefan Kramer wrote: > The Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web (URL: > http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/) now offers archives of the previous > six months of messages from the Pine-Info mailing list. For each month, > there is a main index that lists all messages alphabetically by subject, > as well as a new thread index that lists all message threads in > chronological order. The "Search Pine-Info Discussion Archives" page now > contains an explanation of the Boolean search functions of the index. > > Other additions to the Pine Information Center include: > > o an brief overview of Pine > o a separate "How to get the Pine software" section for different > operating systems > o a pointer to the Pine release notes > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Stefan Kramer e-mail: skramer@cac.washington.edu > Network Information Center University of Washington > Box 354841 Seattle, WA 98105-4527, USA > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 10:29:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15506; Fri, 14 Jul 95 10:29:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21568; Fri, 14 Jul 95 10:17:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21562; Fri, 14 Jul 95 10:17:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWoIm-00038HC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 10:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lbreid@athena.mit.edu (Lynn B Reid) Subject: Convert mhmail directories/files to pine? Date: 14 Jul 1995 16:06:09 GMT Message-Id: <3u64lh$pod@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Status: O X-Status: I'm a pine convert and would like to convert my old files as well. I have been using a standard unix mhmail mailing system, where the mail files are stored separately in directories. I would like to find a converter that would transform these files into a single file useable as a pine directory. The FAQ is strangely quiet on converting from other mail systems. -- Lynn B. Reid Enjoy life. This is not a dress rehearsal. M.I.T., Cambridge, MA 02139 Inter/Bitnet: lbreid@mit.edu UUCP: mit-eddie!mit-athena!lbreid FAX: (617) 253-7462 Phone: (617) 253-5484 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 11:31:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18837; Fri, 14 Jul 95 11:31:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23164; Fri, 14 Jul 95 11:21:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23158; Fri, 14 Jul 95 11:21:39 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29692; Fri, 14 Jul 95 11:21:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 11:21:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: john slimick Cc: Mike Brudenell , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Group redirection In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 14 Jul 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > It is the task of the MTA to decide what to do with an arriving message: > whether it is simply to be delivered into the user's mailbox, or > processed in some other way (eg, remailed to a list of people). This is > typically achieved by using the MTA's redirection facility ("sendmail" > uses a file called ".forward" in your home directory) to send the > arriving message through special software to process/recognise the > message and handle.redistribute it appropriately. > > An example of a software package to do this analysis is "procmail". I just wanted to mention one of the easiest ways to do this, if you are the sys. mgr. or know the sys. mgr. Sendmail also has a central aliases file that can be used for this. You can just put an entry in the aliases file that looks like: listname: user1, user2, ... and it will get redistributed. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 11:32:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18942; Fri, 14 Jul 95 11:32:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19371; Fri, 14 Jul 95 11:18:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19365; Fri, 14 Jul 95 11:18:01 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29628; Fri, 14 Jul 95 11:17:49 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 11:17:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Mike MacKenzie , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Garbled text In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 14 Jul 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Yup... it should have read: > > * At least one Very Long line (several hundredr?) characters long. > I was trying to be a little vague as I'v never quite ascertained which > control characters (ASCII codes less than 32) are "acceptable" (ie, don't > trigger Quoted Printable) in isolation. > > More specifically: > > * You're safe with ASCII characters 32-126 > > * You *might* be safe (I don't know: experiment! :-) with ASCII character > 127 (it's unusual, but not an 8th bit set character code) > > * You *are* safe with certain (all?) characters with ASCII codes less > than 32. > > So the presence of a Tab (ASCII code 9 (decimal)) does not trigger Quoted > Printable, for example. > > However, *once triggered* by some other condition Quoted Printable *does* > then protect these usually-acceptable characters. So if a message is > encoded in Quoted Printable because, say, an 8th bit set character is > present, then Tabs *do* get Quoted. > > I find it very strange that an "acceptable" character suddenly is deemed > "unacceptable" because of the presence of some other character elsewhere. > > Whether this anomaly lies in the specification of Quoted Printable within > MIME, or within Pine's implementation of it I don't know. (I suspect the > former, as the Pine Team are pretty hot on sticking to specifications as > a rule -- anyone "in the know" care to comment?) > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ Pine will encode if there are any characters with the 8th bit set, any null characters, or any lines of 1000 characters or more. It doesn't encode because of a character in the range 1-127. The long line limit comes from a limit in the SMTP spec. Also, you can't send 8 bit characters over standard SMTP, so that's where that comes from. (ESMTP will be supported in 3.92.) Like Mike says, once the decision to encode has been made, then more characters get encoded. The rules for what gets encoded all come from RFC1521. (In 3.92 we'll eliminate trailing spaces from lines of composed text so that will get rid of the annoying =20's at the ends of lines.) We're pretty much encoding only when required, except for attachments, which we always encode for robustness. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 11:37:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19274; Fri, 14 Jul 95 11:37:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19573; Fri, 14 Jul 95 11:28:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19567; Fri, 14 Jul 95 11:28:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWpOd-00038HC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 11:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chris@westnet.westnet.com (Christopher X. Candreva) Subject: To in From line Date: 14 Jul 1995 14:16:46 -0400 Message-Id: <3u6cae$2ue@westnet.westnet.com> Status: O X-Status: Has anyone else seen this problem with pine: On the Folder Index, the From field contains To: you@whereever? I think it happens mostly when the person sending to you has the same username as you. Since there are a bunch of chrises out there, I see it often. Here's a screen shot with two: + 5 Jul 11 agent-sales-human (4,000) RE: Free Agent ISP Bundling 6 Jul 11 To: inet-access@ea (2,419) Apache/Perl script N 7 Jul 14 Ken Germann (2,557) Re: Multi-domained httpd + 8 Jul 14 To: "Christopher X (611) test The #6, while to a mailing list, was sent by another chris -Chris -- ========================================================== Chris Candreva -- chris@westnet.com -- (914) 967-7816 WestNet Internet Services of Westchester http://www.westnet.com/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 12:09:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20552; Fri, 14 Jul 95 12:09:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24178; Fri, 14 Jul 95 12:02:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24172; Fri, 14 Jul 95 12:02:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWpsB-00038HC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 11:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pecori@us.net (Matt Pecori) Subject: PCPine for Windows? Date: 14 Jul 1995 17:51:00 GMT Message-Id: <3u6aq5$enq@news.us.net> Status: O X-Status: Ok, I have a problem. I FTPed to ftp.cac.washington.edu (whatever... whatever has the pcpine directory) and I downloaded PCPINE_W.ZIP. When I unzipped it, it said that the file had errors, and that I couldn't fix it. Has anybody else had that problem? Thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 13:02:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22499; Fri, 14 Jul 95 13:02:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25352; Fri, 14 Jul 95 12:56:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from h141-206-15-110.ATTGIS.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25346; Fri, 14 Jul 95 12:56:48 -0700 Received: from hostsw7.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (hostsw7.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM) by mailhost.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19128; Fri, 14 Jul 95 12:55:49 PDT Date: Fri, 14 Jul 95 12:55:49 PDT From: Steven Feinholz Message-Id: <9507141955.AA19128@mailhost.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM> To: pecori@us.net Subject: Re: PCPine for Windows? Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Status: O X-Status: When you FTP-ed the file, did you make sure that you had turned BINARY mode on? > From ncrhub4!ncrgw1!cac.washington.edu!owner-pine-info@ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.ATTGIS.COM Fri Jul 14 12:49:25 1995 > Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > From: pecori@us.net (Matt Pecori) > Subject: PCPine for Windows? > Date: 14 Jul 1995 17:51:00 GMT > Content-Length: 267 > X-Lines: 6 > > Ok, I have a problem. I FTPed to ftp.cac.washington.edu (whatever... whatever > has the pcpine directory) and I downloaded PCPINE_W.ZIP. When I unzipped it, > it said that the file had errors, and that I couldn't fix it. Has anybody > else had that problem? > > Thanks! > ________________________________________________________________________ ==== AT&T | Steven Feinholz | VOICEplus: 427-5945 =--=== Global | Client Software | Phone: (310) 524-5945 =--=== Information | 100 N. Sepulveda Blvd. | FAX: (310) 524-5515 ==== Solutions | El Segundo, Ca 90245 | sf3@ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 14:06:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25738; Fri, 14 Jul 95 14:06:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26781; Fri, 14 Jul 95 13:51:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26775; Fri, 14 Jul 95 13:51:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWrad-00038HC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 13:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Haephrati Subject: Garbled text Message-Id: <1995Jul14.090941.20300@linkoping.trab.se> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 09:09:41 GMT Status: O X-Status: Whenever I send message that include text imported from an ASCII file (edited by 'pico'), I see it ok on screen but most of the people who receive such message, get it garbled with '=20' at the end of lines. Another problem: Sometimes after running the 'spell' process, attempting to 'perform take address' on more than 50 addresses, Pine terminates stating there is a bug. Why does this happen and how can I get back without loosing what I was working on. Please reply directly to my account. .................................................... . Michael Haephrati . . 69 Jabotinsky st. Givatayim 53319 ISRAEL . . Phone/Fax: + 972 3 315 967 . . Email: harmony@ccsg.tau.ac.il . .................................................... .................................................... . Michael Haephrati . . 69 Jabotinsky st. Givatayim 53319 ISRAEL . . Phone/Fax: + 972 3 315 967 . . Email: harmony@ccsg.tau.ac.il . .................................................... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 14:43:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27263; Fri, 14 Jul 95 14:43:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23189; Fri, 14 Jul 95 14:37:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23183; Fri, 14 Jul 95 14:37:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWsLs-00038LC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 14:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: system@orion.cmc.uab.edu (Tim Buckner) Subject: Re: PINE or POP for VMS?? Date: 14 Jul 1995 15:04 CST Message-Id: <14JUL199515043538@orion.cmc.uab.edu> References: <3tus68$2h3p@bubba.ucc.okstate.edu> <173D9BD32S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> <1995Jul12.222527.26582@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> <173DA13370S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> Status: O X-Status: Has anyone else tried the version Yehavi has out there now? I got pine_3_91_beta_5.zip but Alan's web pages discusses beta_3... So far have been unable to get it to work. It works through the pico compile fine but chokes on vms_mail.c VAX 6000-420, VAX/VMS V6.1, MultiNet V3.4A, DECC$COMPILER C V4.0-000 Basically, what I did was copy [.pine3_91.c-client]ctype.h to sys$library:ctype.h and [.contrib.vms]vmsbuild.com to [.pine3_91]vmsbuild.com then @vmsbuild.com multinet It dies with this as the last message %VCG-I-SUMMARY, Completed with 1 error(s), 19 warning(s), and 26 informational messages. At line number 2392 in [.PINE3_91.C-CLIENT]VMS_ And this error. if(strcmp(stream->mailbox, "INBOX") == NULL) .....^ %CC-E-NOEQUALITY, In this statement, "strcmp(...)" and "((void ...)0)" may not be compared for equality or inequality. At line number 1406 in [.PINE3_91.C-CLIENT]VMS_MAIL.C;1. Any ideas here? Did I overlook discussion on this or is this a new error? >FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) writes... >>In article <1995Jul12.222527.26582@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> >>tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tom Guptill) writes: >> >>>>I've no reason to suppose it wouldn't build with your >>>>particular platform. You don't say which TCP/IP you are >>>>using: if it isn't Multinet then you'll also need a free >>>>network library package called NETLIB. >>> >>>Has support for VMSMail transport been removed from the latest (free) >>>version of Pine? >> >>It's still there. I composed that reply "on the hoof" and had >>forgotten this possibility - sorry. As a matter of fact, I got all >>kinds of strange results when I tried it, but as Yehavi recommended >>the other method, I built the software with the Multinet option and >>made no attempt to find the cause of the problems with VMSMail >>"foreign protocol" method of operation. >> >>>I'm still running v3.89 (if it ain't broke...), and I >>>didn't even bother with Netlib--you can tell Pine to call VMS Mail to send >>>outbound messages. There are a few drawbacks -- you can't use IMAP or POP >>>servers, you can't read news, and you can't speak properly to LISTPROC due >>>to a problem with headers, but it lets me read and send mail without any >>>trouble at all. >> >>....(other platform details omitted). >> >>Thanks for pointing out my oversight (which would, I suppose, have >>become clear if the questioner had read my html page and started to >>install the package. Fortunately, fetching an unwanted copy of >>some free software isn't _too_ harmful ;-) >>And for posting your experiences. I do recommend running the current >>version, there are some nice enhancements, but I should mention that >>if and when you decide to make the transition yourself, you will need >>to make some manual adjustments in your configuration. Again this is >>mentioned in my web file. -- Tim Buckner - system@orion.cmc.uab.edu - buckner@topaz.decus.org -- Univ. Alabama at Birmingham Center for Macromolecular Crystallography 261 BHSB, Birmingham, AL 35294-0005 USA phone/fax:(205)934-1973/-0480 Disclaimer:IMHO, this isn't the HO of my employer and maybe not my HO. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 14:46:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27474; Fri, 14 Jul 95 14:46:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27762; Fri, 14 Jul 95 14:40:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27756; Fri, 14 Jul 95 14:40:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWsOS-00038QC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 14:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zylboo@public.bta.net.cn (user 1246) Subject: y Date: 14 Jul 1995 16:51:29 GMT Message-Id: <3u67ah$8ec@info.bta.net.cn> Status: O X-Status: test 1246. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 16:02:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01005; Fri, 14 Jul 95 16:02:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24705; Fri, 14 Jul 95 15:58:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24699; Fri, 14 Jul 95 15:58:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWtb2-00038QC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 15:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mjm@flowbee.interaccess.com (Michael J Maggio) Subject: Weird Request-- Please do not laugh :) Date: 14 Jul 1995 22:03:52 GMT Message-Id: <3u6pk8$ll2@nntp.interaccess.com> Status: O X-Status: I and my co-workers are coming off of a CMS system where, if anyone is familiar with it, we have something called a "names file" which is where nicknames are stored, email address, and a name, much like the .addressbook for pine. We are wondering now if there exists such a program that will translate our old crummy names file to the lean and mean pine addressbook format. Here is an excerpt of part in the names file: :nick.MJM :userid.U29263 :node.uicvm :name.Michael Maggio And this would be translated to: MJMMaggio, Michaelu29263@uicvm I am sure if we were spared the expense of retyping 150 names we can simply edit the hostname if they're outside our domain... If anyone has information, either email me or post back to the group. Thank you very much in advance! -- Michael J Maggio | The number of Unix installations has grown to 10 mjm@yow.com | with more expected. -- Unix Programmers Manual NeXT Mail tolerated. | Edition Two, June 1972, Thompson & Ritchie From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 16:46:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02819; Fri, 14 Jul 95 16:46:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00517; Fri, 14 Jul 95 16:42:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00511; Fri, 14 Jul 95 16:42:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWuJp-00038TC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 16:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: appleo@raven.cybercomm.net (Apple-O) Subject: Q: can you set default for folders? Date: 14 Jul 1995 19:18:35 -0400 Message-Id: <3u6u0b$fbk@raven.cybercomm.net> Status: O X-Status: Is there any way to configure Pine to go right to my mail folder without having to first go to folders, then to "see expanded list", then finally choose "inbox". this is really inconvenient From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 16:46:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02830; Fri, 14 Jul 95 16:46:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25461; Fri, 14 Jul 95 16:41:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25455; Fri, 14 Jul 95 16:41:23 -0700 Received: from muddog.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04864; Fri, 14 Jul 95 16:41:02 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:40:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Sam Liddicott Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: about octet-stream In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: Sam, Decoding is not the problem... Pine can decode anything it encodes (or presumably any Base-64 MIME message): Just use the Save command in the View Attachment screen. But decoding is different than *displaying* (or in the case of an executable being sent, "automatically invoking"). Pine does not have any idea how to *display* an application/octet-stream object, and most mailcaps don't define that type since it is a catch-all, and as such the type doesn't convey anything about what should be done with it. So there are a couple of distinct pieces to MIME: one is robust transport of non-ascii data, which is handled by the encoding, and the other is labelling data so that the recipient can (sometimes) automate the handling of the data object, e.g. starting up "xv" to display a GIF file. You should always be able to Save an attachment and get the same byte stream the originator sent, but if the attachment is not specifically labelled (and the current version of Pine is very limited in its labelling ability) then you'll have to save the attachment and manually invoke the appropriate viewer. In the case of an executable object, it's often a good idea to make the invocation manual anyway... -teg On Fri, 14 Jul 1995, Sam Liddicott wrote: > I find it confusing that in sending a binary (say /bin/echo) to myself, > pine encodes it as Application/octet-stream; yet when I get the message, > it claims to know nothing about such a format!!! - I can't decode it! > > Please, also, could some dear pine user send me a copy of their mailcap file. > > Thanks indeedy. > > +------------------------ > | sam@csluk.demon.co.uk Tho' I may like green eggs and ham | > | you may NOT call me Sam-I-Am | > | Campbell Scientific Ltd | > -----------------------------+ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 16:49:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02985; Fri, 14 Jul 95 16:49:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00570; Fri, 14 Jul 95 16:45:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00564; Fri, 14 Jul 95 16:45:42 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09847; Fri, 14 Jul 95 16:45:39 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:45:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert Reply-To: Steve Hubert To: "Christopher X. Candreva" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: To in From line In-Reply-To: <3u6cae$2ue@westnet.westnet.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: That is a problem and will be fixed in the next version of Pine. Thanks. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On 14 Jul 1995, Christopher X. Candreva wrote: > Has anyone else seen this problem with pine: On the Folder Index, the From > field contains To: you@whereever? > > I think it happens mostly when the person sending to you has the same > username as you. Since there are a bunch of chrises out there, I see it > often. > > Here's a screen shot with two: > > + 5 Jul 11 agent-sales-human (4,000) RE: Free Agent ISP Bundling > 6 Jul 11 To: inet-access@ea (2,419) Apache/Perl script > N 7 Jul 14 Ken Germann (2,557) Re: Multi-domained httpd > + 8 Jul 14 To: "Christopher X (611) test > > The #6, while to a mailing list, was sent by another chris > > -Chris > > -- > ========================================================== > Chris Candreva -- chris@westnet.com -- (914) 967-7816 > WestNet Internet Services of Westchester > http://www.westnet.com/ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 18:17:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06860; Fri, 14 Jul 95 18:17:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27129; Fri, 14 Jul 95 18:15:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27123; Fri, 14 Jul 95 18:15:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWvh6-00038HC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 18:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Q: can you set default for folders? Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 20:33:49 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3u6u0b$fbk@raven.cybercomm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3u6u0b$fbk@raven.cybercomm.net> Status: O X-Status: On 14 Jul 1995, Apple-O wrote: | Is there any way to configure Pine to go right to my mail folder | without having to first go to folders, then to "see expanded | list", then finally choose "inbox". this is really inconvenient Try invoking Pine as: pine -l -Il,i My communications software lets me set up this keystroke sequence on a "hot key." (With some software packages you may have to specify a , usually encoded as something like ^M, at the end of the invocation sequence.) In the above, -l tells Pine to expand the folder lists, and -Il,i is the initial keystroke list to be executed automatically from the Main Menu. It is actually quite flexible. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 22:43:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11568; Fri, 14 Jul 95 22:43:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05839; Fri, 14 Jul 95 22:37:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05833; Fri, 14 Jul 95 22:37:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWzpt-00038HC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 22:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikean@iquest.net (Mike Anderson, Indianapolis, IN) Subject: Function Keys Message-Id: Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 20:22:24 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have a copy of Pine 3.91 installed on an RS6000 590 under AIX 3.2.5. I have tried everything to get pine to run utilizing function keys as in pine -k. When I do so, using vt100 terminal emulation, function keys F5 and above do not work. I have modified the termcap in /etc/termcap and put a copy in /usr/local/lib just in case pine was looking there. I've modified the termcap file and have the function keys in vt100 emulation working perfectly in other programs. The TERMCAP and TERM environment variables have been set correctly in the .profile, but no luck. Lastly, even if I set the TERMCAP to null or to a bogus file name (like /fred), pine seems to find some terminal emulation to use. We are so close, but not quite there and it is driving us nuts! If anyone has a clue, please send me email at mikean@iquest.net. Thanks, Mike Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 14 22:43:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11575; Fri, 14 Jul 95 22:43:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29832; Fri, 14 Jul 95 22:37:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29826; Fri, 14 Jul 95 22:37:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWzpx-00038IC; Fri, 14 Jul 95 22:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikean@iquest.net (Mike Anderson) Subject: Function Keys for vt100 on RS6000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 20:48:56 GMT Status: O X-Status: I'm trying to get assistance with making pine read my termcap file to allow vt100 terminal emulation. I've modified the termcap and set all of the environment variables, but pine seems to ignore the termcap. Function keys greater than 5 do not work even though I've modified the termcap and get them to work in other programs. Any help would be greatly appreciated..... Please send email to mikean@iquest.net, Thanks, Mike Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 15 02:04:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15390; Sat, 15 Jul 95 02:04:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08447; Sat, 15 Jul 95 01:59:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08441; Sat, 15 Jul 95 01:59:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sX2u4-00038IC; Sat, 15 Jul 95 01:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matt Pecori Subject: PCPine Followup Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:47:10 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: WOOSH! Thanks everybody who helped me... It happens that I DID forget to turn the binary setting on. I thought that was the default, but I guess not. Thanks everyone! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 15 08:22:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22042; Sat, 15 Jul 95 08:22:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05603; Sat, 15 Jul 95 08:16:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05597; Sat, 15 Jul 95 08:16:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sX8v9-00038HC; Sat, 15 Jul 95 08:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mjm@flowbee.interaccess.com (Michael J Maggio) Subject: cmsg cancel <3u6pk8$ll2@nntp.interaccess.com> Control: cancel <3u6pk8$ll2@nntp.interaccess.com> Date: 15 Jul 1995 15:00:41 GMT Message-Id: <3u8l6p$29n@nntp.interaccess.com> Status: O X-Status: cancel <3u6pk8$ll2@nntp.interaccess.com> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 15 15:50:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29251; Sat, 15 Jul 95 15:50:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10100; Sat, 15 Jul 95 15:48:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10094; Sat, 15 Jul 95 15:48:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXFyq-00038IC; Sat, 15 Jul 95 15:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: farquhar@acsu.buffalo.edu (Erik Farquhar) Subject: Info on procmail Date: 15 Jul 1995 22:46:09 GMT Message-Id: <3u9gfh$gkk@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> Status: O X-Status: I am planning to use procmail in order to sort out my mail properly. Unfortunately, I was totally stumped by the man page for procmail. I would appreciate if someone e-mailed me an FAQ on using procmail, or alternately, pointed me to where I can find information on using it and creating the "recipes" necessary for it to work. Thanks for your assistance... ---------------------------------------------------------------- | Erik Farquhar | | e-mail : farquhar@acsu.buffalo.edu | | WWW : http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~farquhar | ---------------------------------------------------------------- And a pleased user of: O S / 2 W A R P and L I N U X From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 15 16:19:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29759; Sat, 15 Jul 95 16:19:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18722; Sat, 15 Jul 95 16:18:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18716; Sat, 15 Jul 95 16:18:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXGSX-00038LC; Sat, 15 Jul 95 16:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: riptide@one.net (Jr.) Subject: I need a Procmail demo Date: 15 Jul 1995 23:15:06 GMT Message-Id: <3u9i5q$3f6@mail.one.net> Status: O X-Status: I am currently using Pine, and I would really appreciate it, if someone could email me an example of how to sort mail with procmail under Pine. Thanks much! JR From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 15 17:06:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00745; Sat, 15 Jul 95 17:06:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10819; Sat, 15 Jul 95 17:03:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10807; Sat, 15 Jul 95 17:03:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXH3U-00038IC; Sat, 15 Jul 95 16:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kluster@goth.engr.sgi.com (Kevin Luster) Subject: Re: attaching a file Date: 15 Jul 1995 16:53:45 -0700 Message-Id: <3u9ke9$1o3@goth.engr.sgi.com> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Ian Russell Ollmann wrote: >appropriate for GIFs, binaries, LARGE text files, etc.) then move the >cursor up into the header area of the message and enter the file name into >the Attchmnt: line. It's that simple! Another approach is to hit ^J^T and use the curses based directory browser to select the file. Beware though, currently Pine only has support for a few types of media types (gif, jpg, PostScript, tiff, ...) but doesn't have the ability to add others (e.g. .rgb files). The next release of Pine should fix this however. -- Kevin Luster, Project Reality | Silicon Graphics MS-880 Kicking Sega's butt | 2011 N. Shoreline Blvd kluster@goth.engr.sgi.com | Mountain View, Ca. 94043 http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~kluster/Visigoth.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 15 17:15:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00885; Sat, 15 Jul 95 17:15:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19376; Sat, 15 Jul 95 17:12:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19370; Sat, 15 Jul 95 17:12:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXHD0-00038IC; Sat, 15 Jul 95 17:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kluster@goth.engr.sgi.com (Kevin Luster) Subject: Re: Info on procmail Date: 15 Jul 1995 16:55:51 -0700 Message-Id: <3u9ki7$1pm@goth.engr.sgi.com> References: <3u9gfh$gkk@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3u9gfh$gkk@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu>, > >I would appreciate if someone e-mailed me an FAQ on using procmail, or >alternately, pointed me to where I can find information on using it and >creating the "recipes" necessary for it to work. There are man pages that came with procmail for constructing recipies try "man procmailex" for some. -- Kevin Luster, Project Reality | Silicon Graphics MS-880 Kicking Sega's butt | 2011 N. Shoreline Blvd kluster@goth.engr.sgi.com | Mountain View, Ca. 94043 http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~kluster/Visigoth.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 15 17:36:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01243; Sat, 15 Jul 95 17:36:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11118; Sat, 15 Jul 95 17:33:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11112; Sat, 15 Jul 95 17:33:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXHc1-00038HC; Sat, 15 Jul 95 17:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Info on procmail Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 20:28:03 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3u9gfh$gkk@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3u9gfh$gkk@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 15 Jul 1995, Erik Farquhar wrote: | I am planning to use procmail in order to sort out my mail properly. | Unfortunately, I was totally stumped by the man page for procmail. | | I would appreciate if someone e-mailed me an FAQ on using procmail, or | alternately, pointed me to where I can find information on using it and | creating the "recipes" necessary for it to work. Appended is some preliminary info I sent to another person. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- ===================================================================== Here is a response I made to someone else on the same thing. It's pretty frequently asked. You can easily find out whether you have procmail. Just enter: procmail -v If you have it on your system, procmail with answer back with some version information. (I believe version 3.10 or 3.11 is the latest.) Procmail is actually very powerful, and I do not begin to use all its capabilities. However, just setting it up to direct incoming mail this way and that into separate folders I found to be quite simple. Paul -------------------------- > [...] > > You need to use mail filtering software to redirect mail into folders > >*before* Pine gets hold of it. Pine by itself cannot do what you want, > >but mail filters can (I use one). This is a frequent question on this > >group, so rather than repeat, email me if you are using Unix and I'll > >point you. > > Paul, > > Could you also please e-mail me the instructions on how to redirect mail. > I'm using Unix and pine and would like very much to sort out my e-mail. > > I appreciate your effort. The instructions are not such that I can just pop them into an email. There's a little more to it than that. First, you have to have available software which will do the filtering! -- and there is more than one such beast. Probably your best bet is to get Nancy McGough's Mail Filtering FAQ: URL= http://www/cis/ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html URL= ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt URL= ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq or send email to: mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with message: send usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq There are fairly complete instructions in the FAQ for setting up simple mail filtering. I used the instructions for procmail and had no problems at all. If you have procmail on your system and choose to use it, the man pages may also be of some help, although they are a little more obscure: man procmail man procmailrc man procmailex <---- useful man procmailsc (more of theoretical interest). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 15 18:25:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02068; Sat, 15 Jul 95 18:25:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20076; Sat, 15 Jul 95 18:15:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20070; Sat, 15 Jul 95 18:15:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXI9o-00038HC; Sat, 15 Jul 95 18:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: carson@lehman.com (Carson Gaspar) Subject: WANTED: commercially supported IMAP v4 server Date: 15 Jul 1995 19:57:11 -0400 Message-Id: <3u9kkn$m8t@dragon.lehman.com> Status: O X-Status: Does anyone offer a commercially supported IMAP v4 server? We would like to start using IMAP, and have client support on the way, but need a vendor for the server. And before anyone mentions the UWash or CMU servers, I am aware of their existance, but need someone to support the code for both practical and political reasons. -- -- Carson Gaspar -- carson@cs.columbia.edu carson@lehman.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 15 19:08:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02690; Sat, 15 Jul 95 19:08:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11950; Sat, 15 Jul 95 19:00:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11944; Sat, 15 Jul 95 19:00:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXIra-00038HC; Sat, 15 Jul 95 18:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vzvz@netcom.com (Philip Zeyliger) Subject: Re: I need a Procmail demo Message-Id: References: <3u9i5q$3f6@mail.one.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 01:34:10 GMT Status: O X-Status: Jr. (riptide@one.net) wrote: : : I am currently using Pine, and I would really appreciate it, if : someone could email me an example of how to sort mail with procmail under : Pine. Thanks much! Here's an example of mailing lists and their pine setup: SHELL=/bin/sh VERBOSE=off MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail #PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail ORGMAIL=$HOME/.mailbox/inbox SENDMAIL=/usr/lib/sendmail FORMAIL=/usr/local/nuglops/bin/formail LOGFILE=$HOME/Mail/procmail.log LOGABSTRACT=all PATH=/usr/local/nuglops/bin:/usr/local/bin/new:/bin:/usr/ucb:/usr/local/bin:/usr/lib:$HOME/bin :0: * ^TOlinguaphile wordserver :0: * ^TOmultiple recipients of list figlet-l figlet :0: * ^TOmultiple recipients of list new-list newlist That's three lists sorted my TO and saved into a folder in MAILDIR. Here's the corresponding .pinerc info: incoming-folders="Word-Server" Mail/wordserver, "Figlet" Mail/figlet, "New-List List" Mail/newlist, -- Philip -- ,'^\ _ _ _ _ _ ,-----------------------------. ; :.\ Philip Zeyliger | |/// \| U ||| |On all Internet Chess Servers| \ \ ~ vzvz@netcom.com | (( o ) ||o\ /) telnet ics.onenet.net 5000 | [___] |_|\\\_/|_n_||_/ '-----------------------------' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 16 08:09:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16491; Sun, 16 Jul 95 08:09:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29980; Sun, 16 Jul 95 08:06:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29974; Sun, 16 Jul 95 08:06:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXV8E-00038YC; Sun, 16 Jul 95 07:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: m9115@abc.se (Peter Wennersten) Subject: help with MIME in Pine Date: 16 Jul 1995 14:58:34 GMT Message-Id: <3ub9eq$g86@oden.abc.se> Status: O X-Status: HI, I wonder if someone could help me. I've been using Pine 3.91 (on a shell acount) now for a while but I haven't been able to configure it for/turn on the MIME option. I live in Sweden and when writing in swedish some characters of the "Latin1 codepage" (ASCII codes 142, 143 & 153) aren't always transferred correctly. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I've been told that there should not be any problem in the transfer (i.e. all characters will come out as they should on the other end) if both sender and receiver has the MIME handling option turned on in their mail software. People I have corresponded with tell me that the MIME encoding headers that should be present in the header of a message are not there. So, how do I turn on the MIME option in Pine? I've been checking on-line help in Pine as well as the Pine site at http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine but I can't find (identify) the relevant information. Can someone tell me what to do, please? Also, how do I set Pine to use the ISO-8859-1 instead of US-ASCII. In Setup- Config I've typed in iso-8859-1 on hte fourth screen at "Character set", but in the headers of my messages it still says US-ASCII. What do I do wrong? /Peter -- mail to peter.wennersten@abc.se From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 16 09:42:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18166; Sun, 16 Jul 95 09:42:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20391; Sun, 16 Jul 95 09:40:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20385; Sun, 16 Jul 95 09:40:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXWcK-00038fC; Sun, 16 Jul 95 09:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: amos@unt.edu (Amos A. Gouaux) Subject: Re: IMAP Client for Mac - {Eudora?} Date: 16 Jul 1995 11:43:37 -0500 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: roseman@cpsc.ucalgary.ca's message of 13 Jul 1995 17:08:09 GMT Status: O X-Status: A complete listing of IMAP software, both clients and servers, is available at: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.software Amos From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 16 10:03:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18548; Sun, 16 Jul 95 10:03:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01347; Sun, 16 Jul 95 10:01:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01341; Sun, 16 Jul 95 10:01:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXWz1-00038fC; Sun, 16 Jul 95 09:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kyril@hti.net (Charles H. Sprague) Subject: New Printer Date: 16 Jul 1995 16:49:18 GMT Message-Id: <3ubfue$dug@wally2.hti.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: Just obtained a new printer for my system here and need to find out what I have to to to configure pine to recognize it and utilize it. I'm using Pine under LINUX (naturally....what else IS there). Haven't had a printer here since LONNNNGGGG before I started using LINUX so I haven't worried too much about it. Anyway, now I got one. It's a Hewlett Packard DeskJet 540. I've tried using all three options in the print setup part of the Pine configuration with no luck. Of the three option, only one of them comes close. What *IT* does is print the first three lines of the message header in a tab-stepped format across the page and then nothing else. Anybody have any knowledge or experience using this printer with Pine? -- **************************************************************************** Charles H. Sprague, Jr. (Kyril Ishduan) kyril@hti.net ************************* "Pain is an unseen and powerful hand that breaks the skin of the stone in order to extract the pulp." -- Kahlil Gibran **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 16 11:16:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19811; Sun, 16 Jul 95 11:16:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02254; Sun, 16 Jul 95 11:13:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02248; Sun, 16 Jul 95 11:13:44 -0700 Received: (from kneustad@localhost) by PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.11) id OAA08651; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 14:13:24 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 14:13:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kathleen D. Neustadt" Subject: Re: slocal and pine? To: "Michael Henderson, Ruler Of All!" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Look at something called filtering. You can find info at the following places: ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq and ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/procmail-faq Kathy kneustadt@pigseye.kennesaq.edu On Wed, 12 Jul 1995, Michael Henderson, Ruler Of All! wrote: > is it possible to use slocal in conjunction with pine to sort mail into > different incoming folders? any help would be appreciated. > > much obliged, > > michael > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 16 12:12:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20768; Sun, 16 Jul 95 12:12:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21894; Sun, 16 Jul 95 12:10:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21888; Sun, 16 Jul 95 12:10:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXYub-00038EC; Sun, 16 Jul 95 11:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Q: can you set default for folders? Date: 16 Jul 1995 18:33:18 GMT Message-Id: <3ubm1e$kqh@grape.epix.net> References: <3u6u0b$fbk@raven.cybercomm.net> Status: O X-Status: Apple-O (appleo@raven.cybercomm.net) wrote: : Is there any way to configure Pine to go right to my mail folder : without having to first go to folders, then to "see expanded : list", then finally choose "inbox". this is really inconvenient >From pine's startup screen (Main Menu) highlight Folder Index and click or press enter, or easier yet, simply type I (the letter i). Assuming that your inbox is your 'current folder' this should immediatly give you a list of messages in your inbox. You should only have to go thru the folder, expand, choose, select, routine to view folders other than your inbox. Hope this helps. G'Day. /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 16 13:50:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22768; Sun, 16 Jul 95 13:50:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04169; Sun, 16 Jul 95 13:46:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04163; Sun, 16 Jul 95 13:46:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXaRg-00038EC; Sun, 16 Jul 95 13:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pjh@tecoma.mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg) Subject: Re: Digesting mail? Message-Id: Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 20:22:48 GMT References: <3tmiga$ltf@news1.channel1.com> Status: O X-Status: Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: : On 8 Jul 1995, Peter Barney wrote: : | I can't seem to get Pine to digest a mail bundle. When : | I press |, it says that this key is not defined on this : | screen, or something to that effect. I've tried it from : | both the message index and when reading the actual : | message. Is there something that I'm missing. : From the Main Menu (provided you are using version : 3.91), go into Setup / Configuration and : enable-unix-pipe-command (or however it is exactly : worded). This should allow you to pipe a message. I don't : know about a whole folder at once (although a folder is a : file in itself). But what do you pipe it to????? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 16 14:12:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23195; Sun, 16 Jul 95 14:12:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04492; Sun, 16 Jul 95 14:08:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from probe.vsc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04486; Sun, 16 Jul 95 14:08:14 -0700 Received: from explore.vsc.edu by probe.vsc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA15727; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 16:59:53 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 17:12:08 +0000 From: haigh@probe.vsc.edu Subject: IMAP Problem on AIX To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: We just took delivery of a pair of RS/6000 model 250 machines. We installed IMAP as indicated in the Pine Technical Notes and as we have already done with an RS/6000 model 25T in February and an N40 3 weeks ago. In all cases, we sent a kill -HUP message to inetd and when that produced no results we rebooted. On the model 250, clients receive a "cannot connect to port 143" message. However, when we start inetd as root (a second copy) IMAP begins accepting connections. All four machines reply with 3250 to an oslevel command. The new machines are intended to be used as IMAP servers. There will be no logins except for staff. Would it make sense to put IMAP in /etc/rc/local? Suggestions are welcome. Thank you __________________________________________________ Roger W. Haigh voice: 802-241-2520 Vermont State Colleges FAX: 802-241-3363 Waterbury, VT 05676 email: haigh@maze.vsc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 16 15:54:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24867; Sun, 16 Jul 95 15:54:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05797; Sun, 16 Jul 95 15:52:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05791; Sun, 16 Jul 95 15:52:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXcTj-00038IC; Sun, 16 Jul 95 15:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Info on procmail Date: 16 Jul 1995 22:47:19 GMT Message-Id: <3uc4tn$sse@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3u9gfh$gkk@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> Status: O X-Status: farquhar@acsu.buffalo.edu (Erik Farquhar) writes: >I would appreciate if someone e-mailed me an FAQ on using procmail, or >alternately, pointed me to where I can find information on using it and >creating the "recipes" necessary for it to work. My Filtering Mail FAQ and lots of other procmail info are available at: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/mailbots.html Feedback is welcome! Thanks, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 16 15:55:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24900; Sun, 16 Jul 95 15:55:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24280; Sun, 16 Jul 95 15:52:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24274; Sun, 16 Jul 95 15:52:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXcPT-00038EC; Sun, 16 Jul 95 15:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nancy@Wolfe.NET (Nancy McGough) Subject: cmsg cancel <3ts5tq$r4d@news1.wolfe.net> Control: cancel <3ts5tq$r4d@news1.wolfe.net> Date: 16 Jul 1995 22:45:00 GMT Message-Id: <3uc4pc$srv@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: cancel <3ts5tq$r4d@news1.wolfe.net> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine This article was cancelled from within NN version 6.5.0 #5 (NOV) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 16 18:13:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27021; Sun, 16 Jul 95 18:13:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25619; Sun, 16 Jul 95 18:07:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25613; Sun, 16 Jul 95 18:07:46 -0700 Received: from tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13481; Sun, 16 Jul 95 18:07:39 -0700 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 18:07:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Crispin To: Guido Bunsen Cc: pine-info@CAC.Washington.EDU, Terry Gray Subject: help needed with imapd 3.6BETA on Solaris 2.4 (fwd) Message-Id: Organization: Networks & Distributed Computing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This is a bug in imap-3.6.BETA (and imap-4.ALPHA) which was fixed just before I went on vacation (and I just got back). I apologize for the problem, but that's why we call them BETA and ALPHA. Normally, the BETA version does not have such bad bugs (the ALPHA version is much more likely). This is the first bad bug of this magnitude in over a year. The bug was caused by an attempt to handle certain systems which report over quota or disk full conditions by doing partial writes instead of returning an error from the write. My Unix box always returns an error (and the man page documents this), so I was unaware that some Unix systems do the other thing until recently. Once again, it's all fixed now, so please get new sources. Date: 11 Jul 1995 09:33:17 GMT From: Guido Bunsen To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help needed with imapd 3.6BETA on Solaris 2.4 Hello, we compiled imapd 3.6 BETA on a sun with solaris 2.4. It is possible to read the mailbox. But when the mailbox (/var/mail/user) on the server has to be written to disk after usage the mailbox content gets garbled. We believe that the Problem is in the routine bezerk_write_message in the file c-client/bezerk.c. We believe that the writev systemcall causes the problem. We get the following messages: Jul 11 10:24:23 harry imapd[17064]: Retrying after disk error user=testuser host=arielle.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE mbx=/var/mail/testuser: Invalid argument Is this a known problem? Are there bug-fixes, workarounds or patches? Sincerely, Guido Bunsen -- Guido Bunsen, Rechnerbetrieb Informatik, RWTH Aachen, 52056 Aachen Tel: +49/241/80-21031 / FAX: +49/241/8888-216 WWW:http://www-users.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~guido/ Email: guido@informatik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 16 21:07:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00197; Sun, 16 Jul 95 21:07:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27298; Sun, 16 Jul 95 21:02:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27290; Sun, 16 Jul 95 21:02:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXhFF-00038EC; Sun, 16 Jul 95 20:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sasohn@netcom.com (Steve Sohn) Subject: PC-Pine and TIA on Netcom Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 03:19:32 GMT Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 16 Jul 1995 14:53:03 GMT, sasohn@netcom.com (Steve Sohn) wrote: Still does not fly. I get messages that the inbox is not available, or whatever; the problem is configuring the inbox, addresss book and folders. Has anyone used PC Pine 3.91 with TIA on Netcom? I Hate those Windoze things, like Eudora, etc., and, while I can use the Unix Pine on Netcom, having it set up and running on my own machine makes it easier for old wussies like me to cut and paste without screwing with uploads, etc. So, if anyone has had success with PC-Pine and TIA, can you please email me and lemme know whatcha done. Here are the "Essential" lines from the PC Pine pinerc that I have had no luck with: =========================================================================== # Updated by Pine(tm) 3.91, copyright 1989-1993 University of Washington. # # Pine configuration file -- customize as needed. # # This file sets the configuration options used by Pine and PC-Pine. If you # are using Pine on a Unix system, there may be a system-wide configuration # file which sets the defaults for these variables. There are comments in # this file to explain each variable, but if you have questions about # specific settings see the section on configuration options in the Pine # notes. On Unix, run pine -conf to see how system defaults have been set. # For variables that accept multiple values, list elements are separated # by commas. A line beginning with a space or tab is considered to be a # continuation of the previous line. For a variable to be unset its value # must be blank. To set a variable to the empty string its value should # be "". You can override system defaults by setting a variable to the # empty string. Switch variables are set to either "yes" or "no", and # default to "no". # Lines beginning with "#" are comments, and ignored by Pine. ########################### Essential Parameters ########################### # Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. Required for PC-Pine. personal-name=Steve Sohn # Your login/e-mail user name user-id=sasohn # Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail. user-domain=netcom.com # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail. smtp-server=netcom.netcom.com # NNTP server for posting news. Also sets news-collections for news reading. nntp-server=192.0.2.3 # Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox # Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER). inbox-path=netcom.netcom.com inbox ###################### Collections, Folders, and Files ##################### Thanks for any help getting this to go. Steve -- __________________________________________________________________ It's better to know some of |Steve Sohn, The Once and Future DWEM the questions |finger: sasohn@netcom.com than all of the answers. |ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/sa/sasohn JAMES THURBER |http://www.webcom.com/~sasohn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 01:17:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05244; Mon, 17 Jul 95 01:17:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12820; Mon, 17 Jul 95 01:11:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12814; Mon, 17 Jul 95 01:11:15 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 17 Jul 1995 09:06:53 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA20917; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 09:12:35 +0100 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 09:12:35 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Apple-O Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: can you set default for folders? In-Reply-To: <3ubm1e$kqh@grape.epix.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Even easier... pine -i Starts Pine and immediately displays the index of the default mail folder (INBOX). Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 16 Jul 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > Apple-O (appleo@raven.cybercomm.net) wrote: > : Is there any way to configure Pine to go right to my mail folder > : without having to first go to folders, then to "see expanded > : list", then finally choose "inbox". this is really inconvenient > > >From pine's startup screen (Main Menu) highlight Folder Index and click or > press enter, or easier yet, simply type I (the letter i). Assuming that > your inbox is your 'current folder' this should immediatly give you a list > of messages in your inbox. You should only have to go thru the folder, > expand, choose, select, routine to view folders other than your inbox. > Hope this helps. G'Day. > /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> > John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| > Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 01:29:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05445; Mon, 17 Jul 95 01:29:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00110; Mon, 17 Jul 95 01:21:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00104; Mon, 17 Jul 95 01:21:36 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 17 Jul 1995 09:17:44 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA21823; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 09:23:17 +0100 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 09:23:16 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Lynn B Reid Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Convert mhmail directories/files to pine? In-Reply-To: <3u64lh$pod@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This is a suggestion, not gospel, so it may not work (but I think it probably will)... The Pine and IMAP daemon programs make use of a library of subroutines for dealing with access to mailboxes in various formats. Collectively this suite of subroutines is called the "C-Client" code, and is included with the Pine distribution kit (after building Pine look in the directory pointed to by the symbolic link "c-client" in the main Pine kit directory). Anyway, the Pine team have provided a set of utilities that use the c-client code to convert or copy between different mailbox formats. Indeed some of these tools don't even need direct access to the mailbox file, but can work over IMAP. You can get them using anonymous ftp: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap-utils.tar.Z (Remember to use binary mode when transferring the file!) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 14 Jul 1995, Lynn B Reid wrote: > I'm a pine convert and would like to convert my old files as well. > I have been using a standard unix mhmail mailing system, where > the mail files are stored separately in directories. I would > like to find a converter that would transform these files into > a single file useable as a pine directory. > > The FAQ is strangely quiet on converting from other mail systems. > > -- > Lynn B. Reid Enjoy life. This is not a dress rehearsal. > M.I.T., Cambridge, MA 02139 > Inter/Bitnet: lbreid@mit.edu UUCP: mit-eddie!mit-athena!lbreid > FAX: (617) 253-7462 Phone: (617) 253-5484 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 02:04:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06389; Mon, 17 Jul 95 02:04:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00600; Mon, 17 Jul 95 02:00:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from goggins.bath.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00594; Mon, 17 Jul 95 02:00:36 -0700 Received: from bath.ac.uk (actually host mary.bath.ac.uk) by goggins.bath.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 17 Jul 1995 09:58:36 +0100 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 09:59:57 +0100 (BST) From: mickey To: "Michael Gregory Abel, University of Tennessee" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: signature line at end of mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have found that my signature file is actually called .signature_bash. Type: ls -a at the prompt and see if your signature file is actually called .signature. Also to edit your signature file, type: pico .signature at the prompt. Type in your witty lines and then press ^O (control O), RETURN and ^X. Michael Moneypenny University of Bath (The views expressed are mine and not those of the U. of B.) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 02:22:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06682; Mon, 17 Jul 95 02:22:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00754; Mon, 17 Jul 95 02:16:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00748; Mon, 17 Jul 95 02:15:43 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id LAA01169 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:48:18 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA00402; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:30:58 GMT Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:30:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: A mysterious problem with PINE 3.91 !!!! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have this mysterious problem with PINE 3.91, I am the system administrator at my company, and some times when I am checking the system processes I find some running with no NAME, I go to the owner of the process to check it up I find out he is running PINE !! What should I do about that ? Thanks $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $ $ $ Aladdin Khamis Information Systems Department $ $ Galtronics Ltd. P.O.Box 1589 Tiberias 14115 $ $ Tel: 972-6-732-111 Ext.299 Fax: 972-6-732-037 $ $ $ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 02:49:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07202; Mon, 17 Jul 95 02:49:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14000; Mon, 17 Jul 95 02:42:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from inet1.dtrd.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13988; Mon, 17 Jul 95 02:42:00 -0700 Received: (from nuucp@localhost) by inet1.dtrd.de (8.6.11/8.6.10) with UUCP id LAA04976; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:41:41 +0200 Received: from sun51.fz.telekom.de (sun51.fz.telekom.de [192.166.56.95]) by sunshine.fz.telekom.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA20570; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:33:03 +0200 Received: by sun51.fz.telekom.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21002; Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:35:29 +0200 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:35:29 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ralf Widera Reply-To: widera@fz.telekom.de To: Apple-O Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: can you set default for folders? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Or even easier ... goto setup / config and edit the option initial-keystroke-list: initial-keystroke-list = i This displays the index of the default mail folder whenever you start pine. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralf Widera, FZ 211b | Email: widera@fz.telekom.de | Deutsche Telekom AG | phone: +49 6151 83 3855 | o Forschungs- und Technologiezentrum | FAX : +49 6151 83 4066 | /\/ Postfach 10 00 03 | ~ ~~ \__ /_/ D-64276 Darmstadt, Germany | ~~ ~~ / ~ ~~ /* The only thing that hurts more than paying income tax */ /* is not having to pay income tax. */ > Even easier... > > pine -i > > Starts Pine and immediately displays the index of the default mail folder > (INBOX). > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On 16 Jul 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > > > Apple-O (appleo@raven.cybercomm.net) wrote: > > : Is there any way to configure Pine to go right to my mail folder > > : without having to first go to folders, then to "see expanded > > : list", then finally choose "inbox". this is really inconvenient > > > > >From pine's startup screen (Main Menu) highlight Folder Index and click or > > press enter, or easier yet, simply type I (the letter i). Assuming that > > your inbox is your 'current folder' this should immediatly give you a list > > of messages in your inbox. You should only have to go thru the folder, > > expand, choose, select, routine to view folders other than your inbox. > > Hope this helps. G'Day. > > /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> > > John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| > > Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 03:20:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07875; Mon, 17 Jul 95 03:20:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01286; Mon, 17 Jul 95 03:12:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01274; Mon, 17 Jul 95 03:12:42 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id MAA07735 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 12:47:25 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA04649; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 12:24:43 GMT Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 12:24:43 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: PINE-INFO Subject: Grammer check? In-Reply-To: <3uc4tn$sse@news1.wolfe.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Does any body know about a grammar check for Unix that could work under pine just like ispell works for spelling. Thanks $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $ $ $ Aladdin Khamis Information Systems Department $ $ Galtronics Ltd. P.O.Box 1589 Tiberias 14115 $ $ Tel: 972-6-732-111 Ext.299 Fax: 972-6-732-037 $ $ $ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 05:03:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10610; Mon, 17 Jul 95 05:03:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15866; Mon, 17 Jul 95 04:59:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15854; Mon, 17 Jul 95 04:59:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXoZy-00038LC; Mon, 17 Jul 95 04:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Horst_Hanak Subject: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED: problems with MIME! Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 12:15:27 +0200 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 10 Jul 1995, Ralf Wenzel wrote: > Hi all! > > I use PINE 3.91 for mail and news. Many users asked me if i can > deactivate the MIME-support, because their news-reader have problems with > MIME. They always have '=20'-sequences in my messages. > > I don't want to take another newsreader, but then i must deactivate MIME. > Who can i do that?? > In our Researchcenter many people want's also such a possibilty for "deactivate the MIME-support"/"activate the MIME-support" in PINE!!! Horst Hanak __________________________________________________________________ Forschungszentrum Karlsruhe E-Mail: Hanak@infp.KfK.DE Institut:INFP Horst Hanak ------------------------- Postfach 3640 tel: +49 7247/82-3353 D 76021 Karlsruhe / Germany fax: +49 7247/82-4624 __________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 06:19:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12202; Mon, 17 Jul 95 06:19:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03240; Mon, 17 Jul 95 06:11:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tuna.wang.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03234; Mon, 17 Jul 95 06:11:04 -0700 Received: from fubar.wang.com by tuna.wang.com with SMTP id AA26609 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 17 Jul 1995 09:11:02 -0400 Received: (from forrie@localhost) by fubar.wang.com (8.7.Beta.9/8.7.Beta.9) id JAA16345 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 09:06:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Forrest Aldrich Message-Id: <199507171306.JAA16345@fubar.wang.com> Subject: FREE IMAP client(s) for MAC? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 09:06:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Status: O X-Status: I'm trying to locate a FREE IMAP client for (also) the MAC... for which source code is also available. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 09:17:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19070; Mon, 17 Jul 95 09:17:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20154; Mon, 17 Jul 95 09:00:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20148; Mon, 17 Jul 95 09:00:04 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15074; Mon, 17 Jul 95 09:00:00 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 08:59:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Steve Sohn Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine and TIA on Netcom In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: Steve, The syntax of your inbox-path variable is incorrect. Instead of: inbox-path=netcom.netcom.com inbox It should be something like: inbox-path={netcom.netcom.com}inbox -teg On Mon, 17 Jul 1995, Steve Sohn wrote: > On Sun, 16 Jul 1995 14:53:03 GMT, sasohn@netcom.com (Steve Sohn) wrote: > > Still does not fly. I get messages that the inbox is not available, or whatever; > the problem is configuring the inbox, addresss book and folders. Has anyone used > PC Pine 3.91 with TIA on Netcom? > > I Hate those Windoze things, like Eudora, etc., and, while I can use the Unix > Pine on Netcom, having it set up and running on my own machine makes it easier > for old wussies like me to cut and paste without screwing with uploads, etc. > > So, if anyone has had success with PC-Pine and TIA, can you please email me > and lemme know whatcha done. > > Here are the "Essential" lines from the PC Pine pinerc that I have had no luck > with: > > =========================================================================== > > # Updated by Pine(tm) 3.91, copyright 1989-1993 University of Washington. > # > # Pine configuration file -- customize as needed. > # > # This file sets the configuration options used by Pine and PC-Pine. If you > # are using Pine on a Unix system, there may be a system-wide configuration > # file which sets the defaults for these variables. There are comments in > # this file to explain each variable, but if you have questions about > # specific settings see the section on configuration options in the Pine > # notes. On Unix, run pine -conf to see how system defaults have been set. > # For variables that accept multiple values, list elements are separated > # by commas. A line beginning with a space or tab is considered to be a > # continuation of the previous line. For a variable to be unset its value > # must be blank. To set a variable to the empty string its value should > # be "". You can override system defaults by setting a variable to the > # empty string. Switch variables are set to either "yes" or "no", and > # default to "no". > # Lines beginning with "#" are comments, and ignored by Pine. > > ########################### Essential Parameters ########################### > > # Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. Required for PC-Pine. > personal-name=Steve Sohn > > # Your login/e-mail user name > user-id=sasohn > # Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail. > user-domain=netcom.com > > # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail. > smtp-server=netcom.netcom.com > > # NNTP server for posting news. Also sets news-collections for news reading. > nntp-server=192.0.2.3 > > # Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox > # Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER). > inbox-path=netcom.netcom.com inbox > > ###################### Collections, Folders, and Files ##################### > > Thanks for any help getting this to go. > > Steve > -- > __________________________________________________________________ > It's better to know some of |Steve Sohn, The Once and Future DWEM > the questions |finger: sasohn@netcom.com > than all of the answers. |ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/sa/sasohn > JAMES THURBER |http://www.webcom.com/~sasohn > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 10:36:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23351; Mon, 17 Jul 95 10:36:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08424; Mon, 17 Jul 95 10:18:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08418; Mon, 17 Jul 95 10:18:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXtbY-00038HC; Mon, 17 Jul 95 10:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: signature line at end of mail Date: 17 Jul 1995 16:03:38 GMT Message-Id: <3ue1kq$glo@news1.wolfe.net> References: Status: O X-Status: abel@UTKVX.UTCC.UTK.EDU ("Michael Gregory Abel, University of Tennessee") writes: > Can anyone help me set up a signature line that is automatically >added to mail text that I write in Pine? I have details about permissions, settings in your .pinerc, etc. in my Signature, Finger, and Customizied Header FAQ at: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/samples.html#sfch I hope it's helpful, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 11:16:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25282; Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:16:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23621; Mon, 17 Jul 95 10:58:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23615; Mon, 17 Jul 95 10:58:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXuQf-00038EC; Mon, 17 Jul 95 10:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sprec-j@acsu.buffalo.edu (Joel Sprechman) Subject: using fcc to save outgoing mail Date: 17 Jul 1995 17:57:57 GMT Message-Id: <3ue8b5$f80@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> Status: O X-Status: hello- I am using pine on a vms system and in my pine.pinerc have set up: default-fcc="SENT" so every message I sent out gets saved in SENT folder. however when I view this folder every message says: To: ME etc... so in order to determine which message i sent to a particular person I would have to read every message in the SENT folder, isn't there a way around this? why would it save it as To: ME? thanks very much joel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Sprechman sprec-j@acsu.buffalo.edu University at Buffalo From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 11:47:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27293; Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:47:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10296; Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:43:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10290; Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:43:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXv6e-00038HC; Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jon@branch.com (Jon Zeeff) Subject: problem on SCO Unix on 486 Date: 17 Jul 1995 12:16:58 -0400 Message-Id: <3ue2dq$s9b@hawk.branch.com> Status: O X-Status: We continue to have a problems when using the Pine software for various users. They keep receiving the following message: Bug in Pine detected "rec'd abort signal" exiting Pine attempting to save debug file to /usr/garnet/pine crash We then hit any key to continue. When we try to use Pine for this user again it cannot open their INBOX. It locks them up in our computer and we then have to kill the process using the root directory command. Any solutions on how to correct this problem? Any ideas on this? Does anyone have a SCO Unix binary that I could get a copy of? -- Commercial Internet Marketing and WWW Development Jon Zeeff Branch Information Services jon@branch.com (313) 741-4442 http://branch.com/ gopher branch.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 11:54:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27791; Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:54:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10358; Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:45:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netcom.netcom.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10352; Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:44:58 -0700 Received: by netcom.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id OAA12525; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 14:16:46 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 14:16:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Sohn X-Sender: sasohn@netcom To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine and TIA on Netcom In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 17 Jul 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 08:59:57 -0700 (PDT) > From: Terry Gray > To: Steve Sohn > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: PC-Pine and TIA on Netcom > > Steve, > The syntax of your inbox-path variable is incorrect. > > Instead of: > > inbox-path=netcom.netcom.com inbox > > It should be something like: > > inbox-path={netcom.netcom.com}inbox > > > -teg > TEG - Been there, done that, tried that ... Turns out it cannot run on Netcom cause of some technicality. Well that is too bad, but I do have the Unix one, and QVTNet to emulate a window ... Still I wish the damned thing would run (PC Pine) on Netcom - Pegasus and Eudora do - must be some programming stuff that is WAY over this ole pilot's head. Thanks much, Steve -- ___________________________________________________________________ Put none but Americans | Steve Sohn, The Once and Future DWEM on Guard tonight. | finger: sasohn@netcom.com GEORGE WASHINGTON | ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/sa/sasohn 30 April 1777 | http://www.webcom.com/~sasohn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 11:58:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27927; Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:58:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25145; Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:53:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25139; Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:53:41 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26750; Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:53:34 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 11:53:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Steve Sohn Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine and TIA on Netcom In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: Steve, The "technicality" appears to be that Netcom has chosen not to run an IMAP daemon. (Pegaus and Eudora use POP, Pine uses IMAP). If Netcom claims there is a *technical* reason for not running an imapd alongside their popd, I'd be interested in hearing it. -teg On Mon, 17 Jul 1995, Steve Sohn wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jul 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > > > Steve, > > The syntax of your inbox-path variable is incorrect. > > > > Instead of: > > > > inbox-path=netcom.netcom.com inbox > > > > It should be something like: > > > > inbox-path={netcom.netcom.com}inbox > > > > > > -teg > > > TEG - > Been there, done that, tried that ... Turns out it cannot run on > Netcom cause of some technicality. Well that is too bad, but I do have > the Unix one, and QVTNet to emulate a window ... Still I wish the damned > thing would run (PC Pine) on Netcom - Pegasus and Eudora do - must be > some programming stuff that is WAY over this ole pilot's head. > > > Thanks much, > > Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 12:17:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28858; Mon, 17 Jul 95 12:17:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25631; Mon, 17 Jul 95 12:13:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25625; Mon, 17 Jul 95 12:13:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXvOK-00038EC; Mon, 17 Jul 95 11:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: christmn@cyberport.net () Subject: pine 3.91 for email only, no usenet? Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 18:54:25 GMT Message-Id: <3ueb5c$t1f@cpmt.cyberport.net> Status: O X-Status: Hi! We use Pine 3.91 as our mail program for our subscribers. These accounts allow unlimited time/services. ie people often use pine to read the news. We would like to setup some email-only accounts. How might we disable news-reading with pine in these selected accounts? thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 12:32:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29449; Mon, 17 Jul 95 12:32:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11386; Mon, 17 Jul 95 12:28:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11380; Mon, 17 Jul 95 12:28:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXvev-00038EC; Mon, 17 Jul 95 12:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: salasin@rs6a.wln.com (Robert Salasin) Subject: Printer Problem Date: 17 Jul 1995 18:20:06 GMT Message-Id: <3ue9km$da2@calliope.wln.com> Status: O X-Status: Sorry to bother you folks with such a newbie type problem, but this has been considerable trouble for us. We would like to be able to print locally, using the Y command to print. Since a lot of our folks are still using dumb terminals with printer attached to the serial port in the back, I've written a little shell script that: 1) passes a code to the terminal re- directing all input to the (printer) serial port, then, 2) "cat"s the input (cat $1 in unix), and then 3) echos a code which then restores the terminal screen for input (and therefore ends transparent print mode). This works fine as a shell script, but when I set it up in printer setup, Pine seems to be adding unprintable characters before each line,l nicely screwing up the printer. I know these characters are generated by Pine, because if I export the document, then apply my shell script, it goes nicely to the printer. So the characters are produced by the Y function, print. Can anyone tell me what those characters are and how to remove them? I have the feeling that this is a real comman problem and that many others have had the same problem. So what's the solution? With many thanks in advance for your time and trouble. Best, Robert Salasin salasin@wln.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 13:03:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00649; Mon, 17 Jul 95 13:03:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26664; Mon, 17 Jul 95 12:58:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26658; Mon, 17 Jul 95 12:58:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXw6s-00038EC; Mon, 17 Jul 95 12:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: a228nguy@cdf.toronto.edu (S. Nguyen) Subject: reading usenet news ? how ? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 16:26:05 GMT Status: O X-Status: Dear Netters: How do you read news from Pine ? I need to do this as some newsgroup I want is not accessible to my university account. However I have an account from a public provider which does offer such group. Is there a way to configure pine so that it extract news from this public provider and pump it to my university account ? I don't want to use the public provider because their phone line is always busy. Thanks in advance, Son Nguyen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 13:19:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01975; Mon, 17 Jul 95 13:19:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12600; Mon, 17 Jul 95 13:13:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12594; Mon, 17 Jul 95 13:13:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXwSq-00038LC; Mon, 17 Jul 95 13:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eks@vki68.aar-vki.dk (Eigil Krogh Sorensen) Subject: [Q] Pine 3.91 for Windows opens Program Manager ???? Date: 17 Jul 1995 17:01:16 GMT Message-Id: <3ue50s$j07@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Status: O X-Status: I'm using Pine 3.91 for windows. No matter how I start the pine it opens the Program Manager when I Exit/Quit pine. (I always run with the Program Manager minimized/iconified (except when I start a program from there of course)). What can change so that Pine doesn't do that, and why is it that pine does it ?? Thanks in advance for any help. -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- VKI ! ! Water Quality Institute !Phone: !E-mail: Science Park Aarhus ! +45 86 20 20 00 or ! 10, Gustav Wieds Vej ! +45 86 20 20 11 local 2114 ! eks@aar-vki.dk DK-8000 Aarhus C !Fax: ! DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 13:38:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02932; Mon, 17 Jul 95 13:38:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27840; Mon, 17 Jul 95 13:32:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27833; Mon, 17 Jul 95 13:32:28 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01859; Mon, 17 Jul 95 13:32:25 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 13:32:22 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Mike Anderson, Indianapolis, IN" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Function Keys In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Pine does not currently reference termcap (or terminfo) to map the keyboard, all key bindings are hard-coded. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 14 Jul 1995, Mike Anderson, Indianapolis, IN wrote: > Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 20:22:24 GMT > From: Mike Anderson, Indianapolis, IN > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Function Keys > > I have a copy of Pine 3.91 installed on an RS6000 590 under AIX 3.2.5. > I have tried everything to get pine to run utilizing function keys as > in pine -k. When I do so, using vt100 terminal emulation, function > keys F5 and above do not work. I have modified the termcap in > /etc/termcap and put a copy in /usr/local/lib just in case pine was > looking there. I've modified the termcap file and have the function > keys in vt100 emulation working perfectly in other programs. The > TERMCAP and TERM environment variables have been set correctly in the > .profile, but no luck. Lastly, even if I set the TERMCAP to null or to > a bogus file name (like /fred), pine seems to find some terminal > emulation to use. > > We are so close, but not quite there and it is driving us nuts! > > If anyone has a clue, please send me email at mikean@iquest.net. > > Thanks, > > Mike Anderson > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 13:57:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03513; Mon, 17 Jul 95 13:57:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13390; Mon, 17 Jul 95 13:50:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13384; Mon, 17 Jul 95 13:50:51 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02310; Mon, 17 Jul 95 13:50:45 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 13:50:41 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Peter Wennersten Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help with MIME in Pine In-Reply-To: <3ub9eq$g86@oden.abc.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Pine 3.91, as distributed, _always_ uses MIME. Any occurance of a character with an ASCII value of 128 or above will trigger MIME Quoted-Printable encoding. Pine will only label a message as ISO-8859-1 if it includes characters outside of 7bit US-ASCII. Some possible sources of your problem could be that your terminal is not capable of sending the extended characters, the Mail Transport on your system is stripping the encpoding somehow, or you have a hacked version of Pine that has Quoted-Printable encoding disabled... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 16 Jul 1995, Peter Wennersten wrote: > Date: 16 Jul 1995 14:58:34 GMT > From: Peter Wennersten > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: help with MIME in Pine > > HI, > I wonder if someone could help me. > > I've been using Pine 3.91 (on a shell acount) now for a while > but I haven't been able to configure it for/turn on the MIME option. > I live in Sweden and when writing in swedish some characters of the > "Latin1 codepage" (ASCII codes 142, 143 & 153) aren't always transferred > correctly. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I've been told > that there should not be any problem in the transfer (i.e. all characters > will come out as they should on the other end) if both sender and receiver > has the MIME handling option turned on in their mail software. > > People I have corresponded with tell me that the MIME encoding headers > that should be present in the header of a message are not there. > > So, how do I turn on the MIME option in Pine? > > I've been checking on-line help in Pine as well as the Pine site at > http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine but I can't find (identify) the relevant > information. > > Can someone tell me what to do, please? > > Also, how do I set Pine to use the ISO-8859-1 instead of US-ASCII. In Setup- > Config I've typed in iso-8859-1 on hte fourth screen at "Character set", but > in the headers of my messages it still says US-ASCII. What do I do wrong? > > > /Peter > > > -- > mail to > peter.wennersten@abc.se > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 14:42:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05817; Mon, 17 Jul 95 14:42:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29420; Mon, 17 Jul 95 14:33:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29414; Mon, 17 Jul 95 14:33:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sXxig-00038EC; Mon, 17 Jul 95 14:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dan Mullen Subject: Mail Reader Question?? Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 13:23:24 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: When using Pine as a Mail Reader...what command marks the individual msg as "read" ? I don't want to delete the message or expunge it from the group...I just don't want to see it again the next day when I read my newsgroup. Thanks. Regards, Dan Mullen dmullen@gate.net ************************************************ * What a way to Spend a Day. * * * * Lets keep it that way by being CONSTRUCTIVE. * ************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 19:32:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16391; Mon, 17 Jul 95 19:32:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05772; Mon, 17 Jul 95 19:27:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05766; Mon, 17 Jul 95 19:27:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sY2Ct-00038EC; Mon, 17 Jul 95 19:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuji@chem.duke.edu (Yuji Shinozaki) Subject: Re: IMAP Client for Mac - {Eudora?} Date: 18 Jul 1995 02:06:04 GMT Message-Id: <3uf4uc$ru@news.duke.edu> References: <3u3cl7$9ao@news.ox.ac.uk> <3u5t8f$3gt@cuckoo.pd.tgi.plexus.com> Status: O X-Status: Chuck Tomasi (ctomasi@plexus.com) wrote: : One good application that I'm aware of is called MailDrop. I believe : the current version is 1.1. I don't recall where I got it from (some : FTP site out there), but it shouldn't be too hard to find. It works : fairly well. The only problem I had was entering my password. For some : reason it didn't like mine, but it would accept everyone else's. I : finally found out that I was a little too anal about adding non-alphanum : characters and MailDrop didn't want to work with a space in my password. : Unlike PINE and the same password on a UNIX system which did work. I like and use Mail Drop, and the author, Carl Bell, is very receptive to comments and bug reports. See http://ackmo.baylor.edu/files/Mail_Drop/info.html and/or ftp://ackmo.baylor.edu./pub/bell/Mail_Drop I think the password problem is due to the imapd, it takes one argument for the password command, and unfortunately, a space makes it think there is two. Maybe pine (are you running it as a imap client, or as /var/spool/mail reader?) passes the arguments properly (within quotes?) to handle spaces. Popper and pop3d also show the same behavior, so you may need to adjust your passwords to omit spaces when/if you are using imap and/or pop. yuji ---- Yuji Shinozaki Computer Systems Manager (919)660-1514 Box 90347 / Dept of Chemistry yuji@chem.duke.edu Duke University http://www.chem.duke.edu Durham, NC 27708-0347 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 20:19:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17403; Mon, 17 Jul 95 20:19:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20226; Mon, 17 Jul 95 20:12:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20220; Mon, 17 Jul 95 20:12:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sY31W-00038IC; Mon, 17 Jul 95 20:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mo@pineapple.apmaths.uwo.ca (Matthew Osborne) Subject: procmail doesn't work Date: 17 Jul 1995 15:32:08 GMT Message-Id: <3udvpo$ain@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> Status: O X-Status: I set up procmail using the filter faq, and the test messages wouldn't work! The log showed it couldn't log the mail file (which is fine) So, I told it not too. But, anything that comes in, even things that are SUPPOSED to be put in diffrent folders don't!! Whats wrong? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 20:22:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17558; Mon, 17 Jul 95 20:22:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06620; Mon, 17 Jul 95 20:19:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06614; Mon, 17 Jul 95 20:19:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sY38w-00038EC; Mon, 17 Jul 95 20:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: engp3079@leonis.nus.sg (Ong Patricia S. K.) Subject: Blinking and coloured text Date: 18 Jul 1995 02:03:22 GMT Message-Id: <3uf4pa$kg6@nuscc.nus.sg> Status: O X-Status: Hi, How to I go about to have blinking and/or coloured text in in email? Are there any things that I need to set-up in PINE? Or are there any special keys to used? Please kindly let me know. Thanks in advance. Patricia From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 21:08:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18601; Mon, 17 Jul 95 21:08:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20814; Mon, 17 Jul 95 21:04:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20808; Mon, 17 Jul 95 21:04:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sY3ov-00038EC; Mon, 17 Jul 95 20:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "micah@salvation.com" Subject: Using PGP with pine Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 15:44:45 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Has anyone, or does anyone currently utilize the pgp package with pine? I would like to see some sort of automatic way to do this... if anyone has developed a way to do this, or knows a good way to do it, please send me mail! Thanks! Micah Anderson micah@salvation.com Salvation Internet Solutions From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 22:00:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19653; Mon, 17 Jul 95 22:00:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08012; Mon, 17 Jul 95 21:57:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08006; Mon, 17 Jul 95 21:57:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sY4ai-00038IC; Mon, 17 Jul 95 21:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sasohn@netcom.com (Steve Sohn) Subject: Re: PC-Pine and TIA on Netcom Message-Id: References: Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 04:13:20 GMT Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 17 Jul 1995 03:19:32 GMT, sasohn@netcom.com (Steve Sohn) wrote: => On Sun, 16 Jul 1995 14:53:03 GMT, sasohn@netcom.com (Steve Sohn) wrote: => Still does not fly. I get messages that the inbox is not available, or whatever; => the problem is configuring the inbox, addresss book and folders. Has anyone used => PC Pine 3.91 with TIA on Netcom? Nope, nobody has cause PC Pine needs IMAP daemon and Netcom has only the POP daemon. Now I know as much about what daemon is as I know how many angels can dance on the head of a pin (half the number of daemons that can - arf arf!), but for whatever reason, Netcom chooses not to have the IMAP. Hey, who says they can't? Must be a reason for it, and I kind of believe that the service here is pretty good, so I will do Unix and QVTNet. C'est ca; Cogito, ergo caca ... -- [not] Descartes Steve (John - Thanks! |Less is More |) -- _______________________________________________________________ I would gladly pay you | Steve Sohn, The Once and Future DWEM Tuesday | finger: sasohn@netcom.com for a hamburger today. | ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/sa/sasohn WIMPY | http://www.webcom.com/~sasohn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 23:32:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21648; Mon, 17 Jul 95 23:32:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22314; Mon, 17 Jul 95 23:19:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22308; Mon, 17 Jul 95 23:19:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sY5sy-00038EC; Mon, 17 Jul 95 23:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oregan@boole.ucc.ie (John O'Regan) Subject: Q: How can you alter the "From " header? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 21:15:02 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hello All, I'm moderating a mailing list and when I (as list owner) want to send a message to everyone on the list, I'd like it to say "From list-owner" as opposed to "From oregan" which is what it does now. I thought I read in this group a while ago a reply to someone in a sim- ilar position to me telling him how to do it, only I forgot to save the article! Please e-mail me as I don't read the news as much as I used to, thanks in advance, JOR. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 17 23:44:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21933; Mon, 17 Jul 95 23:44:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09366; Mon, 17 Jul 95 23:30:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09357; Mon, 17 Jul 95 23:30:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sY62v-00038HC; Mon, 17 Jul 95 23:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Neta Weinryb Subject: help with converting to pine Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 08:50:20 +0300 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: We want to convert to pine. We have it installed and it's working beautifully. The problem is that the ones that used emacs's RMAIL tool need to stop the mail from going to that file (now, when pine is working, the mail goes to RMAIL *and* the pine files). This problem probably seems trivial to someone out there... Thx in advance ========================================== Neta Weinryb RADVision Ltd., ISRAEL neta@radvision.rad.co.il Tel office 972-3-645-8578 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 01:56:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25098; Tue, 18 Jul 95 01:56:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11298; Tue, 18 Jul 95 01:47:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11292; Tue, 18 Jul 95 01:47:19 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 18 Jul 1995 09:30:22 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA19751; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 09:33:16 +0100 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 09:33:15 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: christmn@cyberport.net Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine 3.91 for email only, no usenet? In-Reply-To: <3ueb5c$t1f@cpmt.cyberport.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: One way (perhaps not the best, but it's early in the day here and my brain hasn't got going yet! :-) is to use the "fixed" configuration file. This is a file into which you can put system-wide settings which then are used, and cannot be over-ridden, by users. The standard place for this file is "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed" on UNIX versions of Pine. Depending on whether you are just trying to limit *posting* news articles or also *reading* news articles you will need to have either one or two settings present in the fixed configuration file: nntp-server ----------- This variable can set up to point to an NNTP (News) server. By setting it a user can both read and (if the news server permits it) post News articles. If you want to stop people posting you will need to force this to be an empty value. news-collections ---------------- It is also possible to specify an NNTP server in the list of news collections. (Indeed it is also possible to read News over IMAP if the IMAP server provides the service.) This is done by having a collection defined along these lines: News {news.blah.blah.blah/nntp}[] ...for NNTP protocol or News *[] ...for IMAP protocol Thus you will have to force this variable to be an empty value too if you want to prevent news *reading* (this variable does not enable posting). Note that the values in the "fixed" configuration file are system-wide. Or, more accurately, referenced by all copies of Pine compiled to use that particular file for fixed settings. This means if you want some instances of Pine to be fully configurable by users, and some to be restricted so they can read and/or post News then you will need to compile up separate versions of Pine (each using a different file for the "fixed" settings) and use one version for each class of people (remembering to prevent access to the other version, of course!). Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 17 Jul 1995 christmn@cyberport.net wrote: > Hi! > > We use Pine 3.91 as our mail program for our subscribers. These > accounts allow unlimited time/services. ie people often use pine to > read the news. We would like to setup some email-only accounts. How > might we disable news-reading with pine in these selected accounts? > > thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 02:33:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25818; Tue, 18 Jul 95 02:33:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24274; Tue, 18 Jul 95 02:21:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24268; Tue, 18 Jul 95 02:21:15 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 18 Jul 1995 10:18:24 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id KAA23376; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 10:21:28 +0100 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 10:21:25 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Dan Mullen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Mail Reader Question?? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Your question is actually mixing up to quite different underlying types of message: e-mail and Usenet News. These work and are handled in different ways "down below", but are presented to you the user in as similar a way as possible. Here's an attempt to answer... E-mail ------ When e-mail messages arrive they are delivered to (written into) a file that is personal to you; no-one else (normally!) has access to it. Each e-mail message has some status information (called the "header") saved along with the actual text itself. For example, with one of the most common UNIX mailbox formats (the "Berkeley" format) whether or not a message has been read, marked for deletion, etc is recorded in a header line called "Status:". E-mail messages stay in your mail folder until: * You mark them for deletion ("Status:" becomes "D"), and * You expunge your mailbox (all "Status: D" messages get removed) The normal situation for e-mail is *not* to delete them until you have "finished with them", and expunge them soon after. Usenet News ----------- Usenet News articles are *not* delivered to a personal file just for you. Typically there are several hundred megabytes of News arriving daily, so you *really* wouldn't want copies of all that arriving and being held separately for each user! Instead articles are held centrally on a server computer. These are then accessed by mail reading programs in some way, often using the "NNTP" protocol. News reading programs -- be it Pine, Tin, etc -- keep a file (often called ".newsrc" on UNIX) listing the newsgroups you have subscribed to. This allows them to show you just these groups without all the other "uninteresting" newsgroups listed as well. Naturally you can subsequently add to or remove groups from this list. The .newsrc file also lists, for each subscribed group, the numbers of the articles that you have seen/finished with. This lets the news reading program show only the other, new, articles and hide those you have already read and finished with. You can override this if you wish to see the complete list again. The format of the .newsrc file is very limiting: an article's identifying number is either listed in it (it's read and finished with) or not. So it can only record these two states. Conventional news readers work with these two states. They mark an article as "seen" (add it to the list of read articles in the .newsrc file) as soon as you have read it. This happens whether or not you want to keep the article around to refer to a little later. Pine attempts to adopt an approach more akin to e-mail. Specifically it keeps articles listed until you *explicitly* say you have finished with them by using the "D" command to "Delete" them (but see the note below on article lifetimes). Only this actually records the article as "finished with" by adding its identifying number to your .newsrc file. When you subsequently read the newsgroup in Pine the deleted articles will not be listed. Remember, however, that Usenet News is a *shared* collection of articles held on a server machine. It wouldn't make sense to allow you, for example, to actually *delete* an article on the server as someone else may still want to read it. So you "deleting" a Usenet News article merely updates your .newsrc file and doesn't affect the news server in any way. This means that in Pine, just as with a conventional news reader, you can see the full list of available articles (including those you have "deleted"). You do this by using the "&" (Unexclude) command. Indeed, in keeping with this the "X" command (usually "eXpunge") is renamed "eXclude" to try and indicate that its effect it reversible. Thus an "X" simply *excludes* deleted News articles from the list; you can get them back with an "&" command. The normal way of reading news with Pine is: * Read an article * If you have finished with the article delete it by typing "D", otherwise just move on to another article (the one you were reading will remain in the list) Some people are surprised when an article they have read but not deleted is shown as New again when they next read News using Pine. Recall that the .newsrc file can only hold two states for each article: * finished with * not finished with However Pine uses three states, in keeping with the e-mail paradigm: * finished with (recorded in the .newsrc file) * new (unseen) article * old article (seen but not deleted) Obviously it is not possible to keep these three states recorded in a .newsrc file that can only handle two! So by default Pine marks all undeleted (new and old) articles as New when the newsgroup is next read. However Pine also offers a feature that can be turned on that attempts to "guess" which "not finished with" articles are new and which are old (seen). You enable this in the Setup Configuration screen by setting the "news-approximates-new-status" feature. What this does is look for the deleted article with the greatest identifying number. It then *assumes* that all undeleted articles with smaller identifying numbers have already been read (because they were around when you deleted the one with the higher number) and lists them as "seen". Articles with higher numbers are then *assumed* to be new, and marked as such with an "N" status. This works pretty well, but gets confused if you skip articles but delete later ones (unseen articles erroneously get marked as seen), or you read articles after the last deleted one (seen articles get marked as new). However on the whole it works pretty well, certainly enough to be very useful and worth turning on. Article Lifetimes ----------------- A final note about article lifetimes. Don't assume that just because you don't delete a News article it will remain available. Remember that the news server doesn't know whether or not you have "finished with" (deleted) an article. After a certain period of time depending on how it is configured the news server will delete articles that have been around for a while. So if you definitely want to keep a copy of an article either print it out or save it to another folder (just as if it was an ordinary e-mail message). Hope this helps... (must go and rest my fingers now! :-) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 17 Jul 1995, Dan Mullen wrote: > When using Pine as a Mail Reader...what command marks > the individual msg as "read" ? > I don't want to delete the message or expunge it from > the group...I just don't want to see it again the next > day when I read my newsgroup. Thanks. > > > Regards, > > Dan Mullen > dmullen@gate.net ************************************************ > * What a way to Spend a Day. * > * * > * Lets keep it that way by being CONSTRUCTIVE. * > ************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 04:29:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28705; Tue, 18 Jul 95 04:29:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25535; Tue, 18 Jul 95 04:10:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25529; Tue, 18 Jul 95 04:10:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYARv-00038EC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 04:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maor@celsiustech.se Subject: Re: PINE or POP for VMS?? Date: 18 Jul 1995 07:42:46 MET Message-Id: <3ufhht$83p@world.celsiustech.se> References: <14JUL199515043538@orion.cmc.uab.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: > And this error. > > if(strcmp(stream->mailbox, "INBOX") == NULL) > .....^ > %CC-E-NOEQUALITY, In this statement, "strcmp(...)" and "((void ...)0)" > may not be compared for equality or inequality. > At line number 1406 in [.PINE3_91.C-CLIENT]VMS_MAIL.C;1. > > Any ideas here? That is an error in the program. Change the "NULL" to "0", eg: if(strcmp(stream->mailbox, "INBOX") == 0) Hope that solves your problem ! /Mats Ormhed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 05:00:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29423; Tue, 18 Jul 95 05:00:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13533; Tue, 18 Jul 95 04:40:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13527; Tue, 18 Jul 95 04:40:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYAzG-00038EC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 04:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Sergey A. Nikolaev" Subject: Append not valid for file Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 12:22:53 +0300 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: One of my users on SCO machine started getting the message 'Append not valid for file' when trying to save a message. It happened only to one user. Everything seems okay. Why is that? I'll appreciate your help. +---------------------------------------------------------------+ ! Sergey A. Nikolaev nikolaev@pnpi.spb.ru ! ! Computer Systems Department phone: 007-812-71-385-40 ! ! at St. Petersburg's Nuclear fax: 007-812-71-462-56 ! ! Physics Institute ! +---------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 06:14:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01745; Tue, 18 Jul 95 06:14:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26695; Tue, 18 Jul 95 06:00:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26689; Tue, 18 Jul 95 06:00:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYC97-00038EC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 05:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: system@orion.cmc.uab.edu (Tim Buckner) Subject: Re: PINE or POP for VMS?? Date: 18 Jul 1995 07:02 CST Message-Id: <18JUL199507021225@orion.cmc.uab.edu> References: <14JUL199515043538@orion.cmc.uab.edu <3ufhht$83p@world.celsiustech.se> Status: O X-Status: I made the 0 for NULL substitution there and the compile made it a little farther. The next error is in sendmail_vms append_message2(filename, header, bod) ^ %CC-E-MIXLINKAGE, In this declaration, append_message2 is declared with both internal and external linkage. At line number 78 in [.PINE3_91.PINE.OSDEP]SENDMAIL_VMS.;1. Any ideas on this one? Is there a VMS readme somewhere that points out these and any other errors? Environment: VAX 6000-420, VAX/VMS V6.1, MultiNet V3.4A, DEC C 4.0 >In article <3ufhht$83p@world.celsiustech.se>, maor@celsiustech.se writes... >> >>> And this error. >>> >>> if(strcmp(stream->mailbox, "INBOX") == NULL) >>> .....^ >>> %CC-E-NOEQUALITY, In this statement, "strcmp(...)" and "((void ...)0)" >>> may not be compared for equality or inequality. >>> At line number 1406 in [.PINE3_91.C-CLIENT]VMS_MAIL.C;1. >>> >>> Any ideas here? >> >>That is an error in the program. >>Change the "NULL" to "0", >> eg: if(strcmp(stream->mailbox, "INBOX") == 0) -- Tim Buckner - system@orion.cmc.uab.edu - buckner@topaz.decus.org -- Univ. Alabama at Birmingham Center for Macromolecular Crystallography 261 BHSB, Birmingham, AL 35294-0005 USA phone/fax:(205)934-1973/-0480 Disclaimer:IMHO, this isn't the HO of my employer and maybe not my HO. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 07:03:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02760; Tue, 18 Jul 95 07:03:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15313; Tue, 18 Jul 95 06:55:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15307; Tue, 18 Jul 95 06:55:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYCxO-00038EC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 06:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Pine *not* appending "@host" in From? Date: 18 Jul 1995 09:32:33 -0400 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Does anyone know if it is possible to turn of the "feature" of Pine where it writes your "From" address as "user@host" instead of just "user" as most mail programs do? The reason I ask is because I'm trying to use Sendmail and its UserDB option to alter the from address for all the users of my machine. The UserDB option works fine with every other mail program (such as elm) since they write their "From" lines as "From: user". However, pine has a 'feature' of writing the from line as "From: user@host" and the Sendmail UserDB will not process from lines with the "@host" already appended. Is there any simple way to turn this 'feature' off (besides hacking up the code)? I have tried compiling pine with the ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM option, and setting my personal "From" line to "From: user", but even this less than ideal solution doesn't work. (Pine still adds the "@host"). Thanks. Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 07:08:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02918; Tue, 18 Jul 95 07:08:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27319; Tue, 18 Jul 95 06:58:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27313; Tue, 18 Jul 95 06:58:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYD1t-00038HC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 06:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Re: Q: How can you alter the "From " header? Date: 18 Jul 1995 09:32:48 -0400 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: The easiest thing to do is to add a "Reply-To:" line in your "Customized Headers". If you truly want to change the "From:" line, you can add a "From: email@address" in you Customized Headers. However, this will only over-ride you true "From" address if you rebuild pine with the Flag set to allow users to change their "From" line. By default, this is not allowed. (The flag is ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM and is in pine3.91/pine/osdep/os-xxx.h). Jerry On Mon, 17 Jul 1995, John O'Regan wrote: > Hello All, > > I'm moderating a mailing list and when I (as list owner) want to send a > message to everyone on the list, I'd like it to say "From list-owner" as > opposed to "From oregan" which is what it does now. > > I thought I read in this group a while ago a reply to someone in a sim- > ilar position to me telling him how to do it, only I forgot to save the > article! Please e-mail me as I don't read the news as much as I used to, > > thanks in advance, > JOR. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 07:38:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03642; Tue, 18 Jul 95 07:38:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15864; Tue, 18 Jul 95 07:26:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15858; Tue, 18 Jul 95 07:26:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYDTx-00038IC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 07:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdboggs@mutt.hamline.edu (John D Boggs) Subject: How to save outgoing mail by addressee? Date: 18 Jul 1995 13:13:43 GMT Message-Id: <3ugc27$klb@uc.msc.edu> Status: O X-Status: I have been dragged kicking and screaming into the world of Pine, because Elm is combining messages. I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get Pine to save outgoing messages in the same folder that incoming messages get saved to, that is a different folder for each person/mailing list to whom/which I send mail. For instance, I am on the CIRCPLUS mailing list, and whenever I send mail to the list from Elm the mail gets saved in the file ~/mail/circplus. Mail to joeblow@nowhere.net goes into ~/mail/joeblow. Can Pine do this? How? -- John D. Boggs \ The great thing about human language is Circulation Librarian \ that it prevents us from sticking to Associate System Administrator \ the matter at hand. -Lewis Thomas Bush Memorial Library, Hamline University. jdboggs@piper.hamline.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 07:49:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03952; Tue, 18 Jul 95 07:49:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27798; Tue, 18 Jul 95 07:36:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27792; Tue, 18 Jul 95 07:36:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYDdy-00038EC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 07:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gerdw@cougar.vut.edu.au (David Gerard) Subject: Changing keystroke for commands Date: 18 Jul 1995 23:22:08 +1000 Message-Id: <3ugci0$q21@cougar.vut.edu.au> Status: O X-Status: I am using Pine by telnet from a PC. I can't send ^^ or ^_ (and I've tried using alt-keypad-number-number-number ... doesn't work with this telnet program) to mark in Pico or engage the alternate editor (vi). Is there anything I can do to change the keys for functions in Pine? (Please e-mail copies of replies ... our newsfeed is weird.) -- For an interesting time, read alt.religion.scientology; then act. Rev Dr David Gerard KoX VUT SRC NoName gerdw@cougar.vut.edu.au (preferred) fun@suburbia. apana.org.au Please email important followups (crappy and constipated newsfeed). July 5, 1998, 7 AM. Saucers. End of the world. Your US$30 is your trip ticket. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 08:13:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04815; Tue, 18 Jul 95 08:13:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16682; Tue, 18 Jul 95 08:08:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16676; Tue, 18 Jul 95 08:07:58 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA10009; Tue, 18 Jul 95 17:04:56 +0200 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 17:04:56 +0200 (METDST) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?=)" To: John D Boggs Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to save outgoing mail by addressee? In-Reply-To: <3ugc27$klb@uc.msc.edu> Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: On 18 Jul 1995, John D Boggs wrote: > list to whom/which I send mail. For instance, I am on the CIRCPLUS=20 > mailing list, and whenever I send mail to the list from Elm the mail gets= =20 > saved in the file ~/mail/circplus. Mail to joeblow@nowhere.net goes into= =20 > ~/mail/joeblow. Can Pine do this? How? One way I found and am using is to set up aliases and set default fcc=20 in them (according to the the name). But this requires sending mail=20 primarily to the same users. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-{en|cz|ce}.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 08:26:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05451; Tue, 18 Jul 95 08:26:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17090; Tue, 18 Jul 95 08:21:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17084; Tue, 18 Jul 95 08:21:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYEJV-00038CC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 08:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Blinking and coloured text Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 11:06:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3uf4pa$kg6@nuscc.nus.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3uf4pa$kg6@nuscc.nus.sg> Status: O X-Status: On 18 Jul 1995, Ong Patricia S. K. wrote: > How to I go about to have blinking and/or coloured text in in email? Are > there any things that I need to set-up in PINE? Or are there any special > keys to used? Please kindly let me know. Thanks in advance. As a polite suggestion, please do not do this! People who come up with cute blinking or colored text in their messages imbed special control characters. The only problem is that there is no standard for these things, and different terminals and PCs react differently to them. What may look cute or eye-catching to one recipient may cause another recipient's terminal to go crazy! Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 08:27:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05523; Tue, 18 Jul 95 08:27:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17102; Tue, 18 Jul 95 08:21:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17096; Tue, 18 Jul 95 08:21:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYENS-00038HC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 08:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: How to save outgoing mail by addressee? Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 11:13:03 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3ugc27$klb@uc.msc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3ugc27$klb@uc.msc.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 18 Jul 1995 jdboggs@.MISSING-HOST-NAME. wrote (excerpted): > I cannot for the life of me figure out how to > get Pine to save outgoing messages in the same folder that incoming > messages get saved to, that is a different folder for each person/mailing > list to whom/which I send mail. There is a quick-and-dirty workaround by hand. When you prepare an outgoing email or newsgroup posting, put the cursor into the header, on the line Fcc: . Press Ctrl-K to erase what is there and type in the name of the folder you want to save the message to. When you send the message, Pine will cheerfully save the message in the folder you specified. I do this all the time. (By the way, if you clear the Fcc: line and put nothing in it, Pine will not save the outgoing message at all.) Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 08:30:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05725; Tue, 18 Jul 95 08:30:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28607; Tue, 18 Jul 95 08:21:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28601; Tue, 18 Jul 95 08:21:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYEMQ-00038EC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 08:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kurt.risser@shivasys.com (Kurt) Subject: Re: PINE folder conversion to dbase? Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 13:56:32 GMT Message-Id: <3uge8f$qa8@news.paonline.com> References: <3u3cre$1j7@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: usaworld@aol.com (USAWORLD) wrote: >How can I convert a PINE mail folder to a dbase file without >using "Internet Messenger" ? >Thanks in advance for your help. James Reese You can write a small program in dBASE to import the data from the folders, and store that data into the dBASE file. You would need to find out exactly what structure is used in the dBASE file(s) you are wanting to add records. Kurt Risser From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 09:27:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09263; Tue, 18 Jul 95 09:27:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00236; Tue, 18 Jul 95 09:21:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00230; Tue, 18 Jul 95 09:21:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYFL5-00038EC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 09:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sasohn@netcom.com (Steve Sohn) Subject: Re: How do I auto bounce/forward? Message-Id: References: Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 14:29:52 GMT Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 10 Jul 1995 16:56:04 GMT, think1st@netcom.com (THINKfirst!) wrote: => Hi. I'm getting annoying e-mail from someone, => and I'd like to set Pine to automatically send => any e-mail sent to me from that address right => back to that address. => How can I accomplish this? => A reply via e-mail would be preferred. THANKS!!! => -- => --------------------------------------------------------------------------- => T H I N K f i r s t ! => What is is. Perceive it. Integrate it honestly. Act on it. Idealize it. => --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pine does not filter; therefore, contact the person's ISP "postmaster": postmaster@offender.net and make a complaint. Worked for me when an AOL a/h threatened to kill me next time he saw me on my bike. Scary. -- _______________________________________________________________ Man is the only animal | Steve Sohn, The Once and Future DWEM that blushes. | finger: sasohn@netcom.com Or needs to. | ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/sa/sasohn MARK TWAIN | http://www.webcom.com/~sasohn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 09:39:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09833; Tue, 18 Jul 95 09:39:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19052; Tue, 18 Jul 95 09:31:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19044; Tue, 18 Jul 95 09:31:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYFOy-00038CC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 09:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sasohn@netcom.com (Steve Sohn) Subject: "G" Go to ??? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 14:34:48 GMT Status: O X-Status: 'Lo All - When I hit "G" go to for a mail or news folder, it offers a [default] location that changes from time to time. I do not know what changes this, or if it is in the Configuration files that we control -- could be I missed something. Any idea? [David - did you hear anything on IMAP/POP?] Thanks, Steve -- _______________________________________________________________ I would gladly pay you | Steve Sohn, The Once and Future DWEM Tuesday | finger: sasohn@netcom.com for a hamburger today. | ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/sa/sasohn WIMPY | http://www.webcom.com/~sasohn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 10:27:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11720; Tue, 18 Jul 95 10:27:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01429; Tue, 18 Jul 95 10:20:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01423; Tue, 18 Jul 95 10:20:45 -0700 Received: by watsun.cc.columbia.edu id AA00161 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Tue, 18 Jul 1995 13:20:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 95 13:20:41 EDT From: Joe Brennan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Blinking and coloured text In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 18 Jul 1995 11:06:31 -0400 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: > What may look cute or eye-catching to one recipient may cause another > recipient's terminal to go crazy! I know from user problem reports that the escapes can lock up certain non-vt terminals, leaving the user with no choice but to turn off the terminal and avoid reading the message again. Nice stuff. Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 11:49:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15594; Tue, 18 Jul 95 11:49:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22281; Tue, 18 Jul 95 11:40:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22275; Tue, 18 Jul 95 11:40:56 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07228; Tue, 18 Jul 95 11:40:45 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 11:40:32 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: David Gerard Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Changing keystroke for commands In-Reply-To: <3ugci0$q21@cougar.vut.edu.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You can use "ESC ESC ^" and "ESC ESC _" for ^^ and ^_... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 18 Jul 1995, David Gerard wrote: > Date: 18 Jul 1995 23:22:08 +1000 > From: David Gerard > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Changing keystroke for commands > > I am using Pine by telnet from a PC. I can't send ^^ or ^_ (and I've tried > using alt-keypad-number-number-number ... doesn't work with this telnet > program) to mark in Pico or engage the alternate editor (vi). > > Is there anything I can do to change the keys for functions in Pine? > > (Please e-mail copies of replies ... our newsfeed is weird.) > > -- > For an interesting time, read alt.religion.scientology; then act. Rev Dr David > Gerard KoX VUT SRC NoName gerdw@cougar.vut.edu.au (preferred) fun@suburbia. > apana.org.au Please email important followups (crappy and constipated newsfeed). > July 5, 1998, 7 AM. Saucers. End of the world. Your US$30 is your trip ticket. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 11:59:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16168; Tue, 18 Jul 95 11:59:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03369; Tue, 18 Jul 95 11:46:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03363; Tue, 18 Jul 95 11:46:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYHcV-00038CC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 11:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gjs@cinenet.net (No Name) Subject: kill file ? Date: 18 Jul 1995 16:00:56 GMT Message-Id: <3uglro$7pn@marina.cinenet.net> Status: O X-Status: A previous post asked about a kill file to cause usenet articles from certain people to be blocked. Is there any way in pine to create a killfile to stop email from certain addresses? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 12:18:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17065; Tue, 18 Jul 95 12:18:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22879; Tue, 18 Jul 95 12:06:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22873; Tue, 18 Jul 95 12:06:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYHwF-00038EC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 12:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phil@stick.netdoor.com (Phillip Moore) Subject: BinHex for Pine Date: 18 Jul 1995 15:29:28 GMT Message-Id: <3ugk0o$1ki@axe.netdoor.com> Status: O X-Status: Is there a way I can decode Mac BinHex files with Pine on either Solaris 2.4 or Linux? I have a problem with users sending me mail with Eudora, and they alway choose MacBinHex instead of Mime like I tell them to. Thank you, -- Phillip Moore office: 601.952.1570 Internet Doorway, Inc. fax : 601.952.1573 Systems Administrator www : http://www.netdoor.com/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 12:31:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17467; Tue, 18 Jul 95 12:31:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04103; Tue, 18 Jul 95 12:21:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs8.loc.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04097; Tue, 18 Jul 95 12:21:15 -0700 Received: (from rrne@localhost) by rs8.loc.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA53495; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 15:21:14 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 15:21:14 -0400 (EDT) From: R Russell Neuswanger To: pine-info Subject: Can you annotate your addressbook? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Mine is beginning to clog up with names I've wanted to keep, but can't remember what for. It'd be handy to hit a key and have the highlighted one expand, showing a note giving source and a brief comment: something to remind me why I expected to want to be able to contact this person. If there isn't such a feature, maybe it could go onto a wish list? Pretty please. R. R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP), LC Edel sei der Mensch, Washington, DC 20540-4120 Hilfreich und gut! 202.707.8747 (shared line) Denn das allein neuswang@mail.loc.gov Unterscheidet ihn ... or (best) rrne@loc.gov -- Goethe No teratobibliotic entity avows *my* emanations. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 13:08:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19470; Tue, 18 Jul 95 13:08:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04782; Tue, 18 Jul 95 13:01:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04776; Tue, 18 Jul 95 13:01:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYIk3-00038EC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 12:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: swald@cde2s.ssc.wisc.edu (Sandra Wald) Subject: PINE and Automated message Date: 18 Jul 1995 19:25:25 GMT Message-Id: <3uh1r5$oi6@news.doit.wisc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi, I have an user who asked if when he is on vacation, if PINE could reply automatically to all incoming mail with a message text saying the user is gone and will be back at such and such date. thanks in advance, Sandra -- Sandra J. Wald swald@ssc.wisc.edu (608) 265-4922 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 13:39:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21011; Tue, 18 Jul 95 13:39:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25125; Tue, 18 Jul 95 13:36:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25119; Tue, 18 Jul 95 13:36:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYJHf-00038HC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 13:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: austind@netcom.com (Doug Austin) Subject: POP configuration assistance? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 19:44:16 GMT Status: O X-Status: I administrate a et of Unix minis which use sendmail to communicate emails between machines. I believe it is possible to run some sort of POP daemon on my major relay host, and enable mailers such as Pegasus and Eudora. Alternatively, I have just read in a note here that PINE users IMAP. Question: What's the best USENET source for assistance on setup and configuration of these systems? Also, is there an agreed "source" for freeware POP or IMAP daemons? I need to compile for System V R4. Thanks, Doug austind@netcom.com -- ------------------------------ (c) Douglas A. Austin: personal: austind@netcom.com work: austind@finnegan.com ------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 14:13:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22351; Tue, 18 Jul 95 14:13:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06163; Tue, 18 Jul 95 13:58:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06157; Tue, 18 Jul 95 13:58:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYJdf-00038CC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 13:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Append not valid for file Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 09:32:28 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 18 Jul 1995, Sergey A. Nikolaev wrote: > One of my users on SCO machine started getting the message > 'Append not valid for file' when trying to save a message. > It happened only to one user. Everything seems okay. > > Why is that? > I'll appreciate your help. The obscure error message ("Append not valid for file") means "You tried to save a message into a file which is not a valid mail folder file. All of the known formats of folder files have been checked, and it is none of these, so Pine doesn't know how to save a message to that file. Either save to a different file, or fix whatever is broken in that file." This error message will be corrected to something more intelligible in Pine 3.92. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 14:19:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22591; Tue, 18 Jul 95 14:19:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06373; Tue, 18 Jul 95 14:08:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06367; Tue, 18 Jul 95 14:07:54 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id RAA20707; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 17:07:28 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id RAA32763; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 17:01:11 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA07305; Tue, 18 Jul 95 16:57:37 EDT Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 16:57:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Phillip Moore Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: BinHex for Pine In-Reply-To: <3ugk0o$1ki@axe.netdoor.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1915846483-2120349986-806101056=:7158" Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1915846483-2120349986-806101056=:7158 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is a standalone hexbin/binhex utility for dos or unix. If you need it, I've attached the dos versions to this message. Save the message run it through hexbin. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com On 18 Jul 1995, Phillip Moore wrote: > Is there a way I can decode Mac BinHex files with Pine on either Solaris 2.4 > or Linux? 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18 14:41:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24034; Tue, 18 Jul 95 14:41:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26352; Tue, 18 Jul 95 14:27:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26346; Tue, 18 Jul 95 14:27:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYK74-00038CC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 14:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: srb@cuci.nl (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: Re: procmail doesn't work Date: 18 Jul 1995 19:07:09 +0200 Message-Id: <3ugpnt$4og@zeus.cuci.nl> References: <3udvpo$ain@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> Status: O X-Status: In article <3udvpo$ain@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>, Matthew Osborne wrote: >I set up procmail using the filter faq, and the test messages wouldn't >work! The log showed it couldn't log the mail file (which is fine) So, I >told it not too. But, anything that comes in, even things that are >SUPPOSED to be put in diffrent folders don't!! Whats wrong? Have you tried setting VERBOSE=on and then looking at the LOGFILE? -- Sincerely, srb@cuci.nl Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). The eleventh commandment: Thou shalt not re-curse! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 14:55:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24767; Tue, 18 Jul 95 14:55:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07408; Tue, 18 Jul 95 14:52:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07402; Tue, 18 Jul 95 14:52:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYKUf-00038CC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 14:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul P.H. N.-Wilson" Subject: rimapd problems with HPUX Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 15:57:27 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have recently converted to Pine running on my Linux based laptop, but my incoming mail arrives at an HPUX workstation. I have two questions: 1) How should I configure Pine so that my outgoing mail comes from a different host (the usernames are the same)? Can I just change that in the Composer or should I set up the smtp server to be the desired machine. 2) I have installed imapd on my HPUX machine and it works well. I have also made the appropriate link to /etc/rimapd. This does not work so well. From my Linux command line, I can type "rsh _host_ exec /etc/rimapd" and it starts something successfully. I have setup rimap servers on other machines with no trouble! What is different? Thanks, -- Paul P.H. Wilson Dept. of Nuclear Engineering ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "W'as like us, damn few and they're a'deid." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- UW-Madison, 142 ERB, 1500 Engineering Dr., Madison, WI 53706 (608)265-4573 fax:(608)262-6707 http://candu.neep.wisc.edu/~wilson ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 15:57:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28218; Tue, 18 Jul 95 15:57:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28556; Tue, 18 Jul 95 15:52:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28550; Tue, 18 Jul 95 15:52:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYLUd-00038EC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 15:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: How to save outgoing mail by addressee? Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 17:19:04 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199507181744.NAA13278@orichalc.acsu.buffalo.edu> Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 18 Jul 1995, Joel Sprechman wrote: | neat trick, however when it saves the message into the folder specified | isn't it listed as To: YOUR username? | | is there a way to get to be listed by To: Person you sent the mail to Perhaps I just don't understand your question, then. It works for me just fine. When I save an outgoing mail in a specific folder, it always shows up in the index as To: whomever-I-sent-it-to . Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 16:07:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28892; Tue, 18 Jul 95 16:07:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09014; Tue, 18 Jul 95 16:02:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09008; Tue, 18 Jul 95 16:02:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYLde-00038EC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 16:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: +++ pgp with pine? +++ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 16:30:45 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi all! I want to use pgp with pine. What i have to do? Thanks for helping me! +-----------------------+-------------+-----------------------------------+ | Ralf Wenzel | ? | n06600@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de | | Kavallerieweg 18 | \|/ + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | 33104 Paderborn (GER) | @ @ | PHONE: 0049 - 5254 - 87293 | +-----------------------+-oOO-(_)-OOo-+-----------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 16:09:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28991; Tue, 18 Jul 95 16:09:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28801; Tue, 18 Jul 95 16:02:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28795; Tue, 18 Jul 95 16:02:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYLW7-00038CC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 15:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jay Moore Subject: Re: WANTED: commercially supported IMAP v4 server Date: 18 Jul 1995 20:55:28 GMT Message-Id: <3uh740$llc@centauri.hq.nasa.gov> References: <3u9kkn$m8t@dragon.lehman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I'm still evaluating this product, but I have an IMAP2bis server from the folks at ESys corp in Canada. They took over what used to be ECSMail and are in the process of releasing the commercial version (sort of like Qualcomm and Eudora, I guess). You can reach them at sales@esys.ca They will give you the source for their server or they sell the binaries precompiled for different platforms with support. There is another company called Siren Software that sells a commercial version of an IMAP2 or IMAP2bis server that I am looking at. -- =============================================================================== R. Jay Moore Senior Systems Engineer Boeing Information Systems Email: jmoore@it.hq.nasa.gov Office:202-651-8547 I speak for Me Myself and I Inc. ================================\ /=============================== -------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 16:13:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29217; Tue, 18 Jul 95 16:13:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09124; Tue, 18 Jul 95 16:07:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09118; Tue, 18 Jul 95 16:07:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYLgB-00038CC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 16:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: blane@eskimo.com (Brian Lane) Subject: OS/2 port of Pine? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 19:33:47 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is there anyone working on a OS/2 port of Pine? There isn't any mention of one in the sourcecode. Brian -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ G.U.E. Technical Institute 1:138/162.0 | ftp.eskimo.com/blane FREE Dungeon training for budding adventurers | www.eskimo.com/~blane ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 17:38:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03554; Tue, 18 Jul 95 17:38:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01198; Tue, 18 Jul 95 17:32:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01192; Tue, 18 Jul 95 17:32:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYMuS-00038CC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 17:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: PINESIGN 2.0: A simple script for PGP signing Pine mail Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 12:48:49 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- After a couple of comments, I've updated Pinesign to a new version. This new version adds the ability to choose whether your ascii signature (ie $HOME/.signature) is added. Some mail servers get confused by extra text, so the ability to make sure nothing extra is added was requested. Basically, if you want to sign the message both digitally and asciilly (is that a word :-), just press return twice after you exit your composing editor. Otherwise, make the selections you want specific to the type of message you are sending. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= #!/bin/sh # PINESIGN v2.0 # Written by: Robert A. Hayden # PINESIGN is a simple program that will allow you to automatically sign # your email and news messages composed with the Pine 3.89 mail reader. It # may also work with other mail and news programs, but it has not been # tested. # INSTRUCTIONS FOR CONFIGURING PINE # # You need to define the following options in Pine. This can be done # either via the SETUP options in the main menu of Pine, or via editing # the .pinerc. # # A) signature-file=" " (an empty space) # B) enable-alternate-editor-cmd # C) enable-alternate-editor-implicitly (optional but recommended) # D) signature-at-bottom # E) editor= # INSTRUCTIONS FOR CONFIGURING PINESIGN # # The PGP program must be in your path, and the PGPPATH environment # variable must be defined. See the PGP documentation for details. # # Double check that the first line of this program points to sh. # # Edit the SIGPATH and PINEEDITOR variables to point at your signature # (if any) and the editor you wish to use for your Pine mail. Default # signature will be the file .signature in your $HOME directory. # Default editor is pico -z -t. SIGPATH=$HOME/.signature-pine PINEEDITOR='pico -z -t' # INSTRUCTIONS FOR USING PINESIGN # # When you compose a message, you will compose your message as normal. # # When you exit your editor (control-X in Pico), you will receive a prompt # asking if you wish to add your signature file to the message. If you # respond with y, Y or just press return, your text signature file (often # $HOME/.signature) will be appended to your message. If you type # anything else, your message will not have your signature added. # # Next, you will be prompted as to whether you wish to PGP sign your # message. If you answer with y, Y or return, you will be prompted for your # PGP passphrase and then dumped back to the address/subject section of # Pine. If you type anything else, your message will not be signed. # # If you selected it to be added, your .signature file will be appended # AFTER your digital signature. # # If you have not defined your alternate editor to be run implicitly, you # will need to start it manually. If you do not run the alternate editor, # your .signature file will not be appended and you will also have to do # that manually. It is highly recommended that your define your alternate # editor to run implicitly. ### DO NOT EDIT ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING ### $PINEEDITOR $1 clear echo -n "Would you like to add your ASCII signature to this message? [y] " read SIG echo " " echo -n "Would you like to sign this message with your PGP signature? [y] " read PGP if [ "$PGP" = "y" ] then pgp -sat +comment="PGP Signed with PineSign 2.0" $1 mv $1.asc $1 fi if [ "$PGP" = "Y" ] then pgp -sat +comment="PGP Signed with PineSign 2.0" $1 mv $1.asc $1 fi if [ "$PGP" = "" ] then pgp -sat +comment="PGP Signed with PineSign 2.0" $1 mv $1.asc $1 fi if [ "$SIG" = "y" ] then echo " " >> $1 cat $SIGPATH >> $1 fi if [ "$SIG" = "Y" ] then echo " " >> $1 cat $SIGPATH >> $1 fi if [ "$SIG" = "" ] then echo " " >> $1 cat $SIGPATH >> $1 fi -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP Signed with PineSign 2.0 iQCVAwUBMAvz9DokqlyVGmCFAQHq6QP9FztYKCL9lV16HWwY3E6bRzyfpqwoqCag o7hvWivmc81uocYzo54fR5sz0pLCOAIAJL6f0ST+cRM/epdfgn/eEovCDQFZXelB 0I9mmhaUVpUdHFGfw8UD0XhuBuPWbsaNbMfYr07IVEddH8zqOKHANG0QLBmc8aVm 6btQbK8/MWE= =wfGX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> Cthulhu Matata \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> http://att2.cs.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 17:42:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03769; Tue, 18 Jul 95 17:42:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11174; Tue, 18 Jul 95 17:37:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11167; Tue, 18 Jul 95 17:37:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYN82-00038CC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 17:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cssjr04@gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU (Jackie Robbins) Subject: Attachments/MIME Date: 18 Jul 1995 22:31:22 GMT Message-Id: <3uhcnq$o4c@informer.cc.GaSoU.EDU> Status: O X-Status: Under our old version of pine, 3.05a, we were able to send attachments (nothing fancy, just text files) from our RS/6000s (aix 3.2.5) to our VAXex and Suns and TIs. We upgraded to pine 3.91, which is really nifty, but I digress. Now when we send attachments to our Vaxes, Suns or Tis, the receiving machines cannot display the attachment. The following message appears in the mail message: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Furthermore, if the message is forwarded from the receiving non-aix machine back to an aix machine, the above message still appears in the forwarded mail message, and the attachment cannot be viewed by the aix machine any more. Does anybody know why the other machines see the message as MIME formated? Is the new version sticking some super-secret-magic-decoder-ring-type thing in the message? (neato!) I don't see any pinerc settings dealing with MIME except where you specify an image-viewer. Didn't see any compile time options relating to this either. Any pearls of wisdom? Thanks +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jackie Robbins | | Computer Services | | Georgia Southern University | | Landrum Box 8136 | | Statesboro, GA 30460-8136 | | | | Internet Electronic Mail: jrobbins@gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.edu | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 17:50:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04026; Tue, 18 Jul 95 17:50:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01440; Tue, 18 Jul 95 17:47:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01434; Tue, 18 Jul 95 17:47:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYNEg-00038CC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 17:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mt9234@#myhost.subdomain.domain (.) Subject: Help re. pine Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 14:57:07 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have a problem. how do you direct mail as it comes in into various folders in pine? any help appreciated. please post rather than mail as i do not have to pay for reading news and do so regularly. -- +------------------------------------------------------------------------| | P U N A R U R P R A S H A N T H A C H A R Y A | +------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+ | | | Wise Saying : Who will police the policeman ? :-) | | | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 18:14:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04630; Tue, 18 Jul 95 18:14:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11593; Tue, 18 Jul 95 18:11:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11587; Tue, 18 Jul 95 18:11:17 -0700 Received: from muddog.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14929; Tue, 18 Jul 95 18:11:14 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 18:10:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Jackie Robbins Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Attachments/MIME In-Reply-To: <3uhcnq$o4c@informer.cc.GaSoU.EDU> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: Jackie, 3.05 is so ancient I had to think for awhile about what it did... I believe way-back-then (Summer '92) we didn't yet MIME-encode text attachments. The reason we changed to encode all attachments (including text) was to ensure the integrity of the attached file. In Internet mail transport, there can be subtle corruptions of text files which can sometimes matter (e.g. stripping trailing blanks, tab expansion, escaping "From " lines, etc), and we felt that anything *attached* should be delivered without any corruption, even if many times folks aren't so picky about text files. That was, after all, a key goal of MIME... There are two approaches to dealing with this (neither one ideal for folks who are accustomed to the old behavior): o Fix your receiving mailers to be MIME-capable. (MIME is almost four years old now, so it's well past time to do that!) o If you want to send text that is *not* MIME-encoded, *include* it in the message via ^R, rather than *attaching* the text file. I suspect the reason the forwarded version of the message doesn't decode is that it is missing the MIME-Version header, which is essential. Teaching the recipient mailers to be MIME-aware (e.g. installing the Metamail package) would also solve this. There are also stand-alone MIME encoders/decoders, such as mpack/munpack from CMU... -teg On 18 Jul 1995, Jackie Robbins wrote: > Under our old version of pine, 3.05a, we were able to send attachments > (nothing fancy, just text files) from our RS/6000s (aix 3.2.5) to our > VAXex and Suns and TIs. We upgraded to pine 3.91, which is really nifty, > but I digress. Now when we send attachments to our Vaxes, Suns or Tis, the > receiving machines cannot display the attachment. The following message > appears in the mail message: > > This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, > while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. > > Furthermore, if the message is forwarded from the receiving non-aix > machine back to an aix machine, the above message still appears in the > forwarded mail message, and the attachment cannot be viewed by the aix > machine any more. > > Does anybody know why the other machines see the message as MIME > formated? Is the new version sticking some > super-secret-magic-decoder-ring-type thing in the message? (neato!) > I don't see any pinerc settings dealing with MIME except where you > specify an image-viewer. Didn't see any compile time options relating to > this either. Any pearls of wisdom? > > Thanks > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Jackie Robbins | > | Computer Services | > | Georgia Southern University | > | Landrum Box 8136 | > | Statesboro, GA 30460-8136 | > | | > | Internet Electronic Mail: jrobbins@gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.edu | > | | > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 18:21:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04843; Tue, 18 Jul 95 18:21:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11677; Tue, 18 Jul 95 18:17:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11671; Tue, 18 Jul 95 18:17:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYNjJ-00038CC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 18:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: usaworld@aol.com (USAWORLD) Subject: Re: PINE folder conversion to dbase? Date: 18 Jul 1995 14:59:47 -0400 Message-Id: <3uh0b3$jjr@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3uge8f$qa8@news.paonline.com> Status: O X-Status: >>How can I convert a PINE mail folder to a dbase file without >>using "Internet Messenger" ? >You can write a small program in dBASE to import the data from the >folders, and store that data into the dBASE file. You would need to >find out exactly what structure is used in the dBASE file(s) you are >wanting to add records. >Kurt Risser I had previously used Foxpro to do that with mail log files on a VM/CMS machine running RICE mail. The program was straightforward since RICE has a marker line with the number of lines in each message. Upon moving to a UNIX system, saving messages to a file using the simple Unix "mail" left no reasonable marker line to do the same. However, since my message above, I discovered that Pine does not strip a marker line between messages saved to a folder. The marker line doesn't have the total number of lines of the message, so I'll start from there. If someone has already written a dbase prg for this, I'd appreciate it. Presently, I use Foxpro and Access. Regards, James Reese From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 21:13:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09484; Tue, 18 Jul 95 21:13:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14013; Tue, 18 Jul 95 21:02:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14007; Tue, 18 Jul 95 21:02:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYQCS-00038CC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 20:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: anu@inzo.co.nz (Anu) Subject: Re: MS-Mail,PegasusMail to Eudora Mail Date: 19 Jul 1995 03:28:36 GMT Message-Id: <3uhu54$2as@apollo.inzo.co.nz> References: <3u4t8u$qks@ns1.rad.net.id> Status: O X-Status: Benny Chandra (benny@rad.net.id) wrote: : Is there any freeware or shareware that can convert mail format from : MS-MAIL or from Pegasus Mail to Eudora mail format automatically ? : Please help me where can I find it. : Thank's. Linux ! Tho' why MS Mail I don't know :-) Regards, PC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 18 22:32:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11139; Tue, 18 Jul 95 22:32:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05868; Tue, 18 Jul 95 22:28:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05862; Tue, 18 Jul 95 22:27:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYRX8-00038CC; Tue, 18 Jul 95 22:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gerdw@cougar.vut.edu.au (David Gerard) Subject: Re: Changing keystroke for commands Date: 19 Jul 1995 14:27:51 +1000 Message-Id: <3ui1k7$dbu@cougar.vut.edu.au> References: <3ugci0$q21@cougar.vut.edu.au> Status: O X-Status: On 18 Jul 1995 23:22:08 +1000, David Gerard (gerdw@cougar.vut.edu.au) wrote: :I am using Pine by telnet from a PC. I can't send ^^ or ^_ (and I've tried :using alt-keypad-number-number-number ... doesn't work with this telnet :program) to mark in Pico or engage the alternate editor (vi). :Is there anything I can do to change the keys for functions in Pine? Thank you all for your answers. And the winner is ... ... hit twice, then the character! (i.e. _ or ^ ) The second was to reconfigure the telnet program, which isn't feasible (campus network). Love this newsgroup ... :-- :For an interesting time, read alt.religion.scientology; then act. Rev Dr David :Gerard KoX VUT SRC NoName gerdw@cougar.vut.edu.au (preferred) fun@suburbia. :apana.org.au Please email important followups (crappy and constipated newsfeed). :July 5, 1998, 7 AM. Saucers. End of the world. Your US$30 is your trip ticket. -- For an interesting time, read alt.religion.scientology; then act. Rev Dr David Gerard KoX VUT SRC NoName gerdw@cougar.vut.edu.au (preferred) fun@suburbia. apana.org.au Please email important followups (crappy and constipated newsfeed). July 5, 1998, 7 AM. Saucers. End of the world. Your US$30 is your trip ticket. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 01:05:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14437; Wed, 19 Jul 95 01:05:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07878; Wed, 19 Jul 95 00:59:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07872; Wed, 19 Jul 95 00:59:47 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 19 Jul 1995 08:58:56 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA11593; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 09:02:01 +0100 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 09:02:01 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Steve Sohn Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "G" Go to ??? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I believe it usually offers you the mail/news folder you were reading before the current one. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 18 Jul 1995, Steve Sohn wrote: > When I hit "G" go to for a mail or news folder, it offers a [default] location > that changes from time to time. I do not know what changes this, or if it is in > the Configuration files that we control -- could be I missed something. Any > idea? > > Thanks, > Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 01:17:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14971; Wed, 19 Jul 95 01:17:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07995; Wed, 19 Jul 95 01:05:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07987; Wed, 19 Jul 95 01:05:27 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 19 Jul 1995 09:04:07 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA11850; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 09:06:59 +0100 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 09:06:58 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: R Russell Neuswanger Cc: pine-info Subject: Re: Can you annotate your addressbook? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Try going into the the Address Book screen and typing "?" to see its built-in help information. You'll find descriptions there of: * A "comment" field (for additional comments about the person/address) * An "FCC" field (for use when sending a message to this person as the first-named person on the "To:" list (I didn't know of this myself until just now!)) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 18 Jul 1995, R Russell Neuswanger wrote: > Mine is beginning to clog up with names I've wanted to keep, but > can't remember what for. It'd be handy to hit a key and have the > highlighted one expand, showing a note giving source and a brief comment: > something to remind me why I expected to want to be able to contact this > person. > If there isn't such a feature, maybe it could go onto a wish > list? Pretty please. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 01:55:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16176; Wed, 19 Jul 95 01:55:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08668; Wed, 19 Jul 95 01:49:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08660; Wed, 19 Jul 95 01:49:30 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 19 Jul 1995 09:48:35 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA14373; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 09:51:38 +0100 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 09:51:38 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: "." Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help re. pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Pine reads mail once it has been delivered. To redirect mail into different folders you need to intercept the actualyl delivery process itself. This is not done by Pine, but your system's mail delivery program. For example on a lot of UNIX systems this is called "sendmail". Typically you will have to set up a redirection file (often called ".forward", which lives in your home directory) to send arriving messages through a program that will look at the content and decide what to do with it (eg, where to file it). An example of such a program is the "procmail" package. If not already on your computers it can be obtained via anonymous ftp from a number of archive sites. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 18 Jul 1995, . wrote: > I have a problem. how do you direct mail as it comes in into various > folders in pine? any help appreciated. please post rather than mail as > i do not have to pay for reading news and do so regularly. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 02:44:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17115; Wed, 19 Jul 95 02:44:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17799; Wed, 19 Jul 95 02:38:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17793; Wed, 19 Jul 95 02:38:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYVWu-00038CC; Wed, 19 Jul 95 02:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: que@srv.net (Rob Lundahl) Subject: Can Pine Retreive Mail over PPP link? Date: 19 Jul 1995 04:39:14 GMT Message-Id: <3ui29i$rbt@mars.hyperk.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Status: O X-Status: I would like to run Linux and have pine as the mailer. Can pine retreive my mail when I dial up like Eudora? I don't want to have a new mail address that involves my host name. Thanks Rob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 03:18:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18103; Wed, 19 Jul 95 03:18:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09712; Wed, 19 Jul 95 03:13:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09706; Wed, 19 Jul 95 03:13:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYW3Z-00038CC; Wed, 19 Jul 95 03:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu (Robert A. Hayden) Subject: Re: +++ pgp with pine? +++ Date: 19 Jul 1995 07:44:15 GMT Message-Id: <3uid4f$1bv@nitrogen.mankato.msus.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Ralf Wenzel (n06600@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de) wrote: > I want to use pgp with pine. What i have to do? Well, you didn't say which part of PGP you wish to use. If you just want to digitally sign your messages, that's easy. I even have a script available that mostly-automates it (PineSign 2.1). Write if you want a copy. (Note, it's only works on UNIX). If you want encryption, that gets a lot more hairy. I've seen some noble attempts and near-automated encrypting, but never found anything that worked well for me. I basically encrypt stuff in file space if I need to do that, and use Pine for signing only. Alt.security.pgp added to newsgroups line. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP Signed with TinSign 1.0 iQCVAwUBMAy36DokqlyVGmCFAQGkDwP+LIuWAdOpidbI+JRs8dlpqvXAULVAM1wq qFpV2IElHhEIhw0KrOJ71TN9vJzmktvQGhtvySMVgd8IxxenJpgL4HLaVsSRRbD1 +yOmYMJ7mXsJUbUO2YlAQAnH7l0WVtXrvFfm92i3ikanM/6GFXE0PDALc6Y/nUP5 YMDALbcFa38= =owxB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> Cthulhu Matata \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> http://att2.cs.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden -=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 3.0) GED/J d-- s:++>: a-- C++(++++) ULU++ P+! L++ E---- W+(-) N++++ K+++ w--- O- M+ V-- PS++>$ PE++>$ Y++ PGP++ t- 5+++ X++ R+++>$ tv+ b+ DI+++ D+++ G++++ e++ h r-- y++** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 03:57:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18994; Wed, 19 Jul 95 03:57:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18556; Wed, 19 Jul 95 03:51:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from goggins.bath.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18550; Wed, 19 Jul 95 03:51:05 -0700 Received: from bath.ac.uk (actually host mary.bath.ac.uk) by goggins.bath.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 19 Jul 1995 11:49:12 +0100 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 11:50:31 +0100 (BST) From: mickey To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: what is laaa001ca Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Dear all, when I type ls -a -l at the prompt, one of the files listed is: -rw-r--r-- 1 bs3mjm bs3 137294 Nov 5 laaa001ca Then, when I type pico laaa001ca to see what it is, I get a message saying [File has long line]. Then [ Read 539 lines, Long lines wrapped ] But the text itself is gibberish, full of @, and some ^N ^V etc. However, it does start off with: ^N^C^S^A 1992 Can anybody tell me what this file is doing? Thanks, Michael. In the beginning there was nothing and God said: "Let there be light!" And there was still nothing, but now you could SEE it! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 05:44:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22528; Wed, 19 Jul 95 05:44:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19943; Wed, 19 Jul 95 05:38:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs8.loc.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19937; Wed, 19 Jul 95 05:38:41 -0700 Received: (from rrne@localhost) by rs8.loc.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA17449; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 08:38:32 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 08:38:32 -0400 (EDT) From: R Russell Neuswanger To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info Subject: Re: Can you annotate your addressbook? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Wow! And what's more, it says you can use the where-is command on both of those extra address fields. Hey, I _liked_ this mailer already; this is *great*! Power to the pine-masters!! And many thanks! R. R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP), LC Edel sei der Mensch, Washington, DC 20540-4120 Hilfreich und gut! 202.707.8747 (shared line) Denn das allein neuswang@mail.loc.gov Unterscheidet ihn ... or (best) rrne@loc.gov -- Goethe No teratobibliotic entity avows *my* emanations. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 07:10:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25172; Wed, 19 Jul 95 07:10:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20939; Wed, 19 Jul 95 06:54:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20933; Wed, 19 Jul 95 06:54:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYZWI-00038CC; Wed, 19 Jul 95 06:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: Re: PINE and Automated message Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 11:22:40 +0100 Message-Id: References: <3uh1r5$oi6@news.doit.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3uh1r5$oi6@news.doit.wisc.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 18 Jul 1995, Sandra Wald wrote: > I have an user who asked if when he is on vacation, if PINE could reply > automatically to all incoming mail with a message text saying the user is gone > and will be back at such and such date. I had the problem a few weeks ago, but I got the answere, that pine is not able to do that. Trz 'vacation' at your system prompt or use elm for automatically messaging. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 08:01:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27212; Wed, 19 Jul 95 08:01:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21865; Wed, 19 Jul 95 07:45:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.loyno.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21859; Wed, 19 Jul 95 07:45:22 -0700 Received: by alpha.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/22Jul94-0234PM) id AA17576; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 11:46:45 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 11:46:44 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mary Aplin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Disabling Keyboard Lock Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello Everyone -- I posted this question a few weeks ago and was told to check the pine archives. I have, and couldn't find it. I would like to disable the keyboard lock feature of pine. Does anyone know how this is done? Thank you in advance, Mary Aplin Loyola University, New Orleans From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 08:33:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28717; Wed, 19 Jul 95 08:33:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14941; Wed, 19 Jul 95 08:24:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14935; Wed, 19 Jul 95 08:24:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYauA-00038CC; Wed, 19 Jul 95 08:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: usaworld@aol.com (USAWORLD) Subject: Re: PINE folder conversion to dbase? Date: 19 Jul 1995 08:53:52 -0400 Message-Id: <3uiv90$9cs@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3uh0b3$jjr@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: Here's the dbase file structure of Delrina's Internet Messenger (IM). IM logs onto my UNIX account, reads the INBOX and PINE's read-messages folder, and downloads them to dbase files. However, IM can only direct dial the UNIX machine, and does not work with my PPP connection. What I wind up doing is going online via PPP Telnet to the Unix, invoke PINE, then once a day direct dial using IM to download the PINE folders to dbase files. Since I can write only elementary dbase code, it's beyond me to write a program which can duplicate what IM does. What would be nice is to have a prg which could convert the PINE folders after they have been downloaded to a pc. Suggestions? James Reese IM Dbase File Structure : Field Field Name Type Width 1 ARRIVEDATE Date 8 2 ARRIVETIME Character 6 3 FROM Character 70 4 TO Character 70 5 OLD_TO Character 30 6 STATUS Character 2 7 DOCNUM Character 14 8 SUBJECT Character 70 9 DATA Character 8 10 NOTEBODY Memo 10 11 NEW Character 1 12 TYPE Character 3 13 FILE Character 12 14 CC Character 70 15 BCC Character 70 16 EDITOR Character 12 17 PRIORITY Character 1 18 PASSWORD Character 8 19 INSCRIPT Character 8 20 OUTSCRIPT Character 8 21 HOSTFILE Character 17 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 08:35:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28849; Wed, 19 Jul 95 08:35:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15031; Wed, 19 Jul 95 08:27:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15025; Wed, 19 Jul 95 08:27:33 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 19 Jul 95 23:25:42 +0800 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 23:25:42 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Ralf Wenzel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE and Automated message In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 19 Jul 1995, Ralf Wenzel wrote: > On 18 Jul 1995, Sandra Wald wrote: > > > I have an user who asked if when he is on vacation, if PINE could reply > > automatically to all incoming mail with a message text saying the user is gone > > and will be back at such and such date. > > I had the problem a few weeks ago, but I got the answere, that pine is > not able to do that. Trz 'vacation' at your system prompt or use elm for > automatically messaging. > Please note that elm itself does not send "vacation notices". The elm distribution comes with a routine called "autoreply". However, that routine has a security hole and the author has advised against the use of "autoreply". As you said, the vacation program will produce the desired results sans security problems. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 09:03:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00682; Wed, 19 Jul 95 09:03:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23393; Wed, 19 Jul 95 08:54:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23387; Wed, 19 Jul 95 08:54:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYbRX-00038EC; Wed, 19 Jul 95 08:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdboggs@mutt.hamline.edu (John D Boggs) Subject: Re: How to save outgoing mail by addressee? Date: 19 Jul 1995 13:13:55 GMT Message-Id: <3uj0ej$bf8@uc.msc.edu> References: <3ugc27$klb@uc.msc.edu> Status: O X-Status: I found the solution to my own problem, with cues from people who answered me here and by mail. I just set "fcc-name-rule" to "by-recipient." Now everything I send out gets saved into a folder with then name of the email address I'm sending it to. -- John D. Boggs \ The great thing about human language is Circulation Librarian \ that it prevents us from sticking to Associate System Administrator \ the matter at hand. -Lewis Thomas Bush Memorial Library, Hamline University. jdboggs@piper.hamline.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 09:06:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01198; Wed, 19 Jul 95 09:06:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23371; Wed, 19 Jul 95 08:53:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23351; Wed, 19 Jul 95 08:53:06 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 19 Jul 1995 16:51:49 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id QAA24427; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 16:54:52 +0100 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 16:54:51 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Mary Aplin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Disabling Keyboard Lock In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Two choices... Either, * Turn it off in the systemwide "fixed configuration" file. For UNIX systems this defaults to living in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed. Simply set the "feature-list" variable to include "disable-keyboard-lock-cmd". We also disable the Update command: feature-list=disable-keyboard-lock-cmd, disable-update-cmd, Values in the fixed configuration file can't be overriden by users. (But remember to make the file readable by users! :-) Or, * Modify the source code and recompile. There's a file for your operating system in the pine/osdep/ directory. It's called "os-xxx.h", where "xxx" is the code you use when you say "build xxx" to compile Pine. Look in there and uncomment the "#define NO_KEYBOARD_LOCK" line. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 19 Jul 1995, Mary Aplin wrote: > Hello Everyone -- > > I posted this question a few weeks ago and was told to check the pine > archives. I have, and couldn't find it. > > I would like to disable the keyboard lock feature of pine. Does anyone > know how this is done? > > > Thank you in advance, > > Mary Aplin > Loyola University, New Orleans > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 10:52:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05595; Wed, 19 Jul 95 10:52:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18448; Wed, 19 Jul 95 10:44:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18442; Wed, 19 Jul 95 10:44:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYd92-00038CC; Wed, 19 Jul 95 10:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Printer Problem In-Reply-To: salasin@rs6a.wln.com's message of 17 Jul 1995 18: 20:06 GMT Message-Id: References: <3ue9km$da2@calliope.wln.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 16:33:03 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <3ue9km$da2@calliope.wln.com> salasin@rs6a.wln.com (Robert Salasin) writes: We would like to be able to print locally, using the Y command to print. Since a lot of our folks are still using dumb terminals with printer attached to the serial port in the back, I've written a little shell script that: 1) passes a code to the terminal re- directing all input to the (printer) serial port, then, 2) "cat"s the input (cat $1 in unix), and then 3) echos a code which then restores the terminal screen for input (and therefore ends transparent print mode). This is the basic approach taken by Pine's attached-to-ansi printer configuration option. Since you're not using that, I assume that you require different escape codes. I further assume you're invoking Pine's printer option 3: Personally selected print command. This works fine as a shell script, but when I set it up in printer setup, Pine seems to be adding unprintable characters before each line,l nicely screwing up the printer. I know these characters are generated by Pine, because if I export the document, then apply my shell script, it goes nicely to the printer. So the characters are produced by the Y function, print. I use a personally selected print command too, without problems. Perhaps the problem is not Pine's after all. Can your script handle input from stdin? I.e. what happens when $1 is undefined? Does it work to 'cat myfile | myscript'? Best regards, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 11:11:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06569; Wed, 19 Jul 95 11:11:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26263; Wed, 19 Jul 95 10:59:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26257; Wed, 19 Jul 95 10:59:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYdNU-00038CC; Wed, 19 Jul 95 10:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: what is laaa001ca In-Reply-To: bs3mjm@bath.ac.uk's message of 19 Jul 1995 03: 56:02 -0700 Message-Id: References: Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 16:40:59 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article bs3mjm@bath.ac.uk (mickey) writes: when I type ls -a -l at the prompt, one of the files listed is: -rw-r--r-- 1 bs3mjm bs3 137294 Nov 5 laaa001ca Then, when I type pico laaa001ca to see what it is, I get a message saying [File has long line]. Then [ Read 539 lines, Long lines wrapped ] But the text itself is gibberish, full of @, and some ^N ^V etc. However, it does start off with: ^N^C^S^A 1992 Can anybody tell me what this file is doing? Try the Unix command, file laaa001ca If it appears this is "data" or some other binary type, then it will not be readable by most text editors. An alternative in this case might be strings laaa001ca | sort -u | more Regards, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 12:44:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10297; Wed, 19 Jul 95 12:44:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21263; Wed, 19 Jul 95 12:39:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21252; Wed, 19 Jul 95 12:39:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYewy-00038CC; Wed, 19 Jul 95 12:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nong He Subject: fail to send E-mail to China Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 09:35:09 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I can get a E-mail messege from P.R.China but I can not send a messege to P.R.China. Is there any one know what the problem is? -------------------------------------------------------------------- Nong He nong.he@utmb.edu University of Texas Medical Branch, Galveston -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 13:40:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13526; Wed, 19 Jul 95 13:40:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29930; Wed, 19 Jul 95 13:35:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29922; Wed, 19 Jul 95 13:35:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYfox-00038EC; Wed, 19 Jul 95 13:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Carl_Bell@baylor.edu (Carl W. Bell) Subject: Re: IMAP Client for Mac - {Eudora?} Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 10:06:47 -0500 Message-Id: References: <3u3cl7$9ao@news.ox.ac.uk> <3u5t8f$3gt@cuckoo.pd.tgi.plexus.com> <3uf4uc$ru@news.duke.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3uf4uc$ru@news.duke.edu>, yuji@chem.duke.edu (Yuji Shinozaki) wrote: >Chuck Tomasi (ctomasi@plexus.com) wrote: >: One good application that I'm aware of is called MailDrop. I believe >: the current version is 1.1. I don't recall where I got it from (some >: FTP site out there), but it shouldn't be too hard to find. It works >: fairly well. The only problem I had was entering my password. For some >: reason it didn't like mine, but it would accept everyone else's. I >: finally found out that I was a little too anal about adding non-alphanum >: characters and MailDrop didn't want to work with a space in my password. > >I think the password problem is due to the imapd, it takes one argument for >the password command, and unfortunately, a space makes it think there is two. No, this is a bug, er, limitation, in Mail Drop. What Mail Drop is supposed to do is use the IMAP "literal" feature when sending a password that contains "funny" characters, which should include space. This will be fixed in the next version. -cb ______________________________________________________________________________ Carl W. Bell Senior Analyst/Programmer Carl_Bell@baylor.edu Academic Computing - Baylor University CCIS From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 14:20:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15275; Wed, 19 Jul 95 14:20:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23782; Wed, 19 Jul 95 14:15:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23776; Wed, 19 Jul 95 14:15:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYgRg-00038EC; Wed, 19 Jul 95 14:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: danielsi@ic.ac.uk (Ian Daniels) Subject: Re: How to save outgoing mail by addressee? Date: 19 Jul 1995 18:51:07 GMT Message-Id: <3ujk6r$nf@oban.cc.ic.ac.uk> References: <3ugc27$klb@uc.msc.edu> Status: O X-Status: John D Boggs wrote: > I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get Pine to save > outgoing messages in the same folder that incoming messages get > saved to, that is a different folder for each person/mailing list > to whom/which I send mail. You Didn't say which version of Pine you are using. In version 3.91 there is a variable called "fcc-name-rule". Setting this to "by-recipient" should do what you want. It is accessible from the "Setup Configuration" screen. Go to M)ain, S)etup, C)onfig. The online help says the following: > OPTION: FCC-Name-Rule > > This option determines the default name for folder carbon > copy. Choose one: default-fcc, by-recipient, last-fcc-used. > Normal default is "default-fcc", the value of which is set in the > "default-fcc" variable as specified earlier in this > configuration. Note that whatever the fcc specified here, it > will be overridden by any fcc entries you have in your address > book. To get incoming messages saved by "sender" you need to set the variable "saved-msg-name-rule" to "by-sender". Hope this helps. Ian. -- Ian Daniels | High Energy Physics, Imperial College, London ig.daniels@ic.ac.uk | +44 (0)171 594 7815 (internal 47815) ------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 14:32:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15824; Wed, 19 Jul 95 14:32:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01238; Wed, 19 Jul 95 14:30:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01230; Wed, 19 Jul 95 14:30:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYgdg-00038CC; Wed, 19 Jul 95 14:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wkearney@access.digex.net (Bill Kearney) Subject: Getting mail at home via PPP? Date: 19 Jul 1995 16:01:27 -0500 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I've got a Sun at home and I connect to the net via ppp. My provider has a popper running and I get my mail using Eudora on a Macintosh. I'd like to consider some alternatives. I'd like to use the Sun as a mail host or something. I'd prefer to have the Sun grab and hold the mail. It's not attached to the net constantly so I can't just use it as a direct SMTP address. Right now, the providers Sun holds my mail and delivers it to me via a pop mail service. Can I access that with the Sun or is there some better way to do it? I've seen the sendmail docs and I'd really rather not attempt this without some suggestions! Thanks, Bill -- Bill Kearney | wkearney@access.digex.net | PO Box 201 | kearney@newton.apple.com | Copyright 1995 Butler, MD | ftp://ftp.digex.net/pub/access/wkearney/ | W.G.Kearney (410) 239-0060 | http://www.access.digex.net/~wkearney/ | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 14:42:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16296; Wed, 19 Jul 95 14:42:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24438; Wed, 19 Jul 95 14:38:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24430; Wed, 19 Jul 95 14:38:04 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0sYgqI-000sADC; Wed, 19 Jul 95 23:39 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Wed, 19 Jul 95 23:24 MESZ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 23:25:23 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig X-Sender: michaelj@paddington Reply-To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: MIME-encoded Att. without Name? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi everybody, I'm using PINE 3.91 on a SPARCstation SLC (Solaris 2.4) and have the following problem: When I attach a binary file the receiving end (Using Sun Mailtool) gets the attachment as a plain file, no name of type given. The attachment can be saved and (if the receiver knows how) processed. Does anybody have a clue what I did wrong? Greeting from (very hot at this time) Hamburg, Michael Joswig From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 15:37:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18306; Wed, 19 Jul 95 15:37:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02611; Wed, 19 Jul 95 15:30:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02605; Wed, 19 Jul 95 15:30:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYhd5-00038HC; Wed, 19 Jul 95 15:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mstevens@shrinkatron.utmb.edu (Mark A. Stevens MD) Subject: Re: How do I auto bounce/forward? Date: 19 Jul 1995 21:01:17 GMT Message-Id: <3ujrqt$nqv@atlantis.utmb.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: THINKfirst! (think1st@netcom.com) wrote: : : Hi. I'm getting annoying e-mail from someone, : and I'd like to set Pine to automatically send : any e-mail sent to me from that address right : back to that address. : : How can I accomplish this? Get procmail and the filtering FAQ. I know that you can use this to send automatic replies, but I'm not certain how one would bounce the mail back to the sender. I assume the reason is that you don't want to read it. However, consider using procmail to shuffle all such messages into a folder (which you needn't read) and to send back an automatic reply to the sender saying that all mail from that address is being automatically saved but ignored AND one to postmater@jerk's.site saying that you have received another email message from soandso even though you have asked that the person not send any more mail. : A reply via e-mail would be preferred. THANKS!!! No, this is usenet - we do things in public here so everyone can learn. -- Mark A. Stevens, M.D. Assistant Professor of Psychiatry University of Texas Medical Branch | Director, Psychiatric Emergency Svc Galveston, TX 77555-0428 | Mail: mstevens@shrinkatron.utmb.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 15:38:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18413; Wed, 19 Jul 95 15:38:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25614; Wed, 19 Jul 95 15:30:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25608; Wed, 19 Jul 95 15:30:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYhbI-00038CC; Wed, 19 Jul 95 15:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Horst_Hanak Subject: Re: help with MIME in Pine Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 16:41:23 +0200 Message-Id: References: <3ub9eq$g86@oden.abc.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 17 Jul 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > Pine 3.91, as distributed, _always_ uses MIME. Any occurance of a > character with an ASCII value of 128 or above will trigger MIME > Quoted-Printable encoding. Pine will only label a message as ISO-8859-1 > if it includes characters outside of 7bit US-ASCII. > '_always_ uses MIME' is in most cases very fine! But some sites don't have the MIME-support. In this cases it would be good, to get a warning ( ---- a new feature ------- in PINE), if a character with an ASCII value of 128 or above is typed. 1) on REPLY it is possible to make the warning depending on the mail-header(was it a Mail with MIME-support?) 2) depending on the addressbook, putting an address from an incomming mail to the addressbook (MIMEFLAG=yes, if the Mail was with MIME-support) Many users know nothing about ASCII values!!! Users simply write/read/print mail. PINE is very good for E-Mail-beginners. Greetings, Horst Hanak __________________________________________________________________ Forschungszentrum Karlsruhe E-Mail: Hanak@infp.KfK.DE Institut:INFP Horst Hanak ------------------------- Postfach 3640 tel: +49 7247/82-3353 D 76021 Karlsruhe / Germany fax: +49 7247/82-4624 __________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 16:22:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20182; Wed, 19 Jul 95 16:22:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26807; Wed, 19 Jul 95 16:20:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26801; Wed, 19 Jul 95 16:20:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYiM3-00038CC; Wed, 19 Jul 95 16:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mstevens@shrinkatron.utmb.edu (Mark A. Stevens MD) Subject: Re: fail to send E-mail to China Date: 19 Jul 1995 21:15:40 GMT Message-Id: <3ujsls$nqv@atlantis.utmb.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: Nong He (nhe@marlin.utmb.edu) wrote: : : I can get a E-mail messege from P.R.China but I can not send a messege to : P.R.China. Is there any one know what the problem is? There's no way to tell what the problem is from this information. How do you know the email didn't get through? Unsuccessful mail usually results in some sort of error message or bounced mail, which contains information about what went wrong. Read the failure message and see if that helps. How do you know the email address to which you are trying to send is valid? Merely responding to the message doesn't always work, since some email software is incorrectly configured (I recently had the problem of getting email from a friend at an Air Force base to which I couldn't reply - his sysop had set up the software so the return address was incorrect). If you post a copy of the error message you got (feel free to change the email address to x's if you prefer) I'll see if it makes sense to me. -- Mark A. Stevens, M.D. Assistant Professor of Psychiatry University of Texas Medical Branch | Director, Psychiatric Emergency Svc Galveston, TX 77555-0428 | Mail: mstevens@shrinkatron.utmb.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 17:49:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23850; Wed, 19 Jul 95 17:49:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05508; Wed, 19 Jul 95 17:45:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05502; Wed, 19 Jul 95 17:45:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYjgc-00038CC; Wed, 19 Jul 95 17:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Operator (Urs Schuerer)" Subject: Re: Copying messages BACK into [INBOX] Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 18:33:39 +0200 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 6 Jul 1995, Mike Hatz wrote: > I didn't see a meta-key for moving read messages back into the [INBOX]. > Is there an easy way to do this? > > Thanks, > > Mike > ===== > "If I hear one more *&^%%$!!! journalist use the term > 'Information Super Highway' I am going to throw up!" > Hi Mike, ...maybe not the best way, but why do you not simply go to your folder which the message is in (saved-messages or whatever) an F(orward) it to yourself. If you remove your signature, the line 'forwarded message' and a little bit of header it will just look like before. I know it's not the best, but maybe the easiest way. BTW if I hear one more ... "Multimedia" I am going to blow him up ! yours, Urs. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Urs Schuerer Phone private: +49 89 6514351 | | Gruenwalder Str. 44 / IV. Phone SCALL: +49 1681 1367020| | 81545 Muenchen, Germany Phone office: +49 89 21052660 | | | | Email: root2@lfe.mw.tu-muenchen.de | | root@botanik.biologie.tu-muenchen.de | | t311401@sunmail.lrz-muenchen.de | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 19:05:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25754; Wed, 19 Jul 95 19:05:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29853; Wed, 19 Jul 95 18:55:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29847; Wed, 19 Jul 95 18:55:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYkoF-00038CC; Wed, 19 Jul 95 18:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: fail to send E-mail to China Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 21:25:13 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 19 Jul 1995, Nong He wrote: | I can get a E-mail messege from P.R.China but I can not send a messege to | P.R.China. Is there any one know what the problem is? Several years ago, when I worked at a US Army installation, I had what sounds like a similar problem. I could send an email from my CompuServe account to my Army account, but could not send from my Army account back to CompuServe. It turned out that the difficulty was that the software on the Army computer could not resolve the @compuserve.com address correctly into the appropriate numeric domain address simply because @compuserve.com was not loaded into the address tables. I do not know that this is your case, but you might check with your system administrator whether your system can successfully resolve a P.R.C. written address into the correct numeric domain address. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 20:15:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27258; Wed, 19 Jul 95 20:15:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07274; Wed, 19 Jul 95 20:10:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07268; Wed, 19 Jul 95 20:10:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYlyf-00038CC; Wed, 19 Jul 95 20:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Clark Subject: Structure of Pine Folder Files in OSF/1? Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 21:04:21 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi I am trying to understand the structure of Pine Folder Files so as to convert from VMS mail to Pine using an awk program that was posted earlier. The program didn't work for me (perhaps reflecting just my own ignorance of Pine, Unix, and lots of other things). In playing around trying to do manually what I thought the program was to do (just to understand it), some strange things seem to happen. To illustrate, I used Pico to create the following file and put it in the mail directory. >From clark@io.uwinnipeg.ca >Subject: test >Status: RO >This is the content of the file. When I enter Pine and select the test folder, however, what I see is this entire thing as the body of the message. OSF, Pico, or Pine seems to have added its own header information, as shown by the following file extracted from Pine. >From clark@UWinnipeg.caWed Jul 19 00:49:33 1995 >Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 00:42:44 -0500 >From: clark@UWinnipeg.ca >Subject: /usr/home/faculty/clark/mail/test > >From: clark@io.uwinnipeg.ca >Subject: test >Status: RO >This is the content of the file. > Can anyone explain what is happening here? Does Pine have information about the folders that does not appear as regular text in the folder files? Take care Jim **************************************************************************** James M. Clark (204) 786-9313 Department of Psychology (204) 786-1824 Fax University of Winnipeg clark@uwinnipeg.ca Winnipeg, Manitoba R3B 2E9 4L02A CANADA **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 19 21:39:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29124; Wed, 19 Jul 95 21:39:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08262; Wed, 19 Jul 95 21:36:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08256; Wed, 19 Jul 95 21:36:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYnJM-00038CC; Wed, 19 Jul 95 21:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cguy@uspto.gov (Cynthia Guy) Subject: subset of news Date: 19 Jul 1995 15:06:00 -0400 Message-Id: <3ujl2o$bu1@pioneer.uspto.gov> Status: O X-Status: 1st question: I need to setup pine to look at a subset of my news list. When I put a value into the nntp-server, the news-collections gets filled in with the nntp name. I added the subset news group in the [ ] space and when I restart pine, it says that it is empty, but I know it is not. 2nd question: I want to find out if you can change the character that Pine uses to precede each line of text when replying to a message? Thanks for any assistance. cguy@uspto.gov -- "Time is a precious gift. Live each minute to its fullest because you will never get it back." Cynthia Guy, Network Analyst PTO: (703) 308-6873 standard disclaimers apply From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 20 00:25:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02729; Thu, 20 Jul 95 00:25:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04629; Thu, 20 Jul 95 00:21:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04623; Thu, 20 Jul 95 00:21:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYpv0-00038EC; Thu, 20 Jul 95 00:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Petter Blomberg Subject: Re: MIME-encoded Att. without Name? Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 08:43:41 +0200 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 19 Jul 1995, Michael Joswig wrote: > When I attach a binary file the receiving end (Using Sun Mailtool) gets > the attachment as a plain file, no name of type given. The attachment can > be saved and (if the receiver knows how) processed. > > Does anybody have a clue what I did wrong? I don't think that Mailtool is MIME compliant. Regards, Petter Blomberg ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Petter Blomberg /"""\ Tel: +46 (0) 12 28 4630 qrablog@lmera.ericsson.se ( o o ) ECN: 868 4630 ____ ____ ____ ____ o00_( )_00o ____ Home: +46 (0) 13 21 02 36 ( _ \( __)(_ _)(_ _)( __)( _ \ ( _ \ ) __/ ) _) )( )( ) _) ) / ) _ Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02971; Thu, 20 Jul 95 00:37:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10276; Thu, 20 Jul 95 00:31:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10270; Thu, 20 Jul 95 00:31:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYq23-00038CC; Thu, 20 Jul 95 00:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joseph Kurachi Luk Subject: Compilng PINE for IRIX Date: 20 Jul 1995 00:00:49 GMT Message-Id: <3uk6bi$l8@news2.ucsd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Sorry if this has been discussed before, but it isn't in the FAQ: How does one get PINE to compile on Silicon Graphics IRIX systems? We're running System 5 on a 4-processor Onyx machine. I tried "build sgi" and it worked with lots of warnings, until it spat out: sr/lib64/libtermlib.so. ld64: FATAL 9: I/O error (-lsun): No such file or directory cc ERROR: /usr/lib64/cmplrs/ld64 returned non-zero status 1 *** Error code 1 (bu21) make: fatal error. Can anyone tell me what's wrong or how to compile for SGI? Thanks! (email replies appreciated at joluk@ucsd.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 20 00:57:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03388; Thu, 20 Jul 95 00:57:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05004; Thu, 20 Jul 95 00:51:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04998; Thu, 20 Jul 95 00:51:54 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA17187; Thu, 20 Jul 95 09:49:32 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 09:49:31 +0200 (METDST) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?=)" To: Joseph Kurachi Luk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Compilng PINE for IRIX In-Reply-To: <3uk6bi$l8@news2.ucsd.edu> Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: On 20 Jul 1995, Joseph Kurachi Luk wrote: > Sorry if this has been discussed before, but it isn't in the FAQ: How=20 > does one get PINE to compile on Silicon Graphics IRIX systems? We're=20 > running System 5 on a 4-processor Onyx machine. I tried "build sgi" and= =20 > it worked with lots of warnings, until it spat out: Try to obtain the compiled version from=20 ftp://ftp.utia.cas.cz/pub/unix/unix-binary/SGI-indy. This was compiled=20 for Indy, but SGI claims there systems as binary compatible so it should=20 work (my colleague who did the work is on vacation now). Hope this helps V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-{en|cz|ce}.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 20 01:23:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04197; Thu, 20 Jul 95 01:23:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05434; Thu, 20 Jul 95 01:16:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05428; Thu, 20 Jul 95 01:16:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYqlV-00038CC; Thu, 20 Jul 95 01:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: asharma2@osf1.gmu.edu (Anurag Sharma) Subject: HELP: Anonymous E-mail question ?t Date: 20 Jul 1995 02:59:34 GMT Message-Id: <3ukgqm$t9t@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi, I would really appreciate it if someone could be generous enough to tell me how to e-mail someone without sending in your real username. I know this is possible because yesterday I had received an anonymous e-mail message, the senders address was "anonymous@com.gmu.edu". Thank You. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 20 03:36:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07091; Thu, 20 Jul 95 03:36:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12271; Thu, 20 Jul 95 03:31:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12265; Thu, 20 Jul 95 03:31:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYsqK-00038CC; Thu, 20 Jul 95 03:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Structure of Pine Folder Files in OSF/1? Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 01:33:15 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: The answer to your question is that you did not write a mail folder file. Since it was not recognized as a mail folder file, it was treated as raw data. The additional header information was pseudo-header, generated from the attributes of the file. The Unix mbox format of mail folders requires the date in ctime() format to appear in the "From " line. You must have an RFC-822 format Date:, From:, and To: line. Note that the format of the Date: in the RFC-822 header is in a different format (not ctime()) from the "From " header line. Furthermore, a blank line (completely empty, not even a space) must separate the RFC-822 header from the body. So, in your example: From clark@io.uwinnipeg.ca Subject: test Status: RO This is the content of the file. you should do From clark@io.uwinnipeg.ca Wed Jul 19 00:49:33 1995 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 00:49:33 -0500 From: clark@io.uwinnipeg.ca Subject: test To: clark@io.uwinnipeg.ca Status: RO This is the content of the file. At a minimum, you should read RFC-822. This will not discuss the details of the internal mbox "From " header (this is a UNIXism and not in RFC-822) but basically a "From " header is the word "From", a space, a source email address, and the date in ctime() format. Do not confuse "From " with the From: header in RFC-822! On Wed, 19 Jul 1995, Jim Clark wrote: > Hi > > I am trying to understand the structure of Pine Folder Files so as to > convert from VMS mail to Pine using an awk program that was posted > earlier. The program didn't work for me (perhaps reflecting just my own > ignorance of Pine, Unix, and lots of other things). In playing around > trying to do manually what I thought the program was to do (just to > understand it), some strange things seem to happen. > > To illustrate, I used Pico to create the following file and put it in the > mail directory. > > >From clark@io.uwinnipeg.ca > >Subject: test > >Status: RO > >This is the content of the file. > > When I enter Pine and select the test folder, however, what I see is this > entire thing as the body of the message. OSF, Pico, or Pine seems to > have added its own header information, as shown by the following file > extracted from Pine. > > >From clark@UWinnipeg.caWed Jul 19 00:49:33 1995 > >Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 00:42:44 -0500 > >From: clark@UWinnipeg.ca > >Subject: /usr/home/faculty/clark/mail/test > > > >From: clark@io.uwinnipeg.ca > >Subject: test > >Status: RO > >This is the content of the file. > > > > Can anyone explain what is happening here? Does Pine have information > about the folders that does not appear as regular text in the folder files? > > Take care > Jim > > **************************************************************************** > James M. Clark (204) 786-9313 > Department of Psychology (204) 786-1824 Fax > University of Winnipeg clark@uwinnipeg.ca > Winnipeg, Manitoba R3B 2E9 4L02A > CANADA > **************************************************************************** > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 20 04:57:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09313; Thu, 20 Jul 95 04:57:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08385; Thu, 20 Jul 95 04:52:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08379; Thu, 20 Jul 95 04:52:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYu8v-00038CC; Thu, 20 Jul 95 04:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andy Smith Subject: Compiling Pine/IMAP for an ICL DRS6000 ? Date: 20 Jul 1995 09:59:03 GMT Message-Id: <3ul9d7$im5@soap.pipex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Help! At present I run Pine on several HP9000 servers under HP-UX. This was no problem as the binaries are freely available. Unfortunately, I have been asked to set up Pine on an ICL DRS6000 running SVR4. I cannot find any compiled code for Pine/IMAP for this machine/operating system and when I try to download the source pine.3.91.tar.Z I cannot unpack it ( even on my HP9000, where the tar -xvf command tells me the tar directory is corrupt ). If anyone has any ideas on either running Pine on the ICL or unpacking the pine source tar file so I can compile it myself then I would be very grateful. Cheers Andy Smith Project Manager - Field Group plc - United Kingdom From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 20 07:01:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12268; Thu, 20 Jul 95 07:01:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09931; Thu, 20 Jul 95 06:53:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09925; Thu, 20 Jul 95 06:53:44 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0sYw4U-000sAUC; Thu, 20 Jul 95 15:55 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Thu, 20 Jul 95 15:43 MESZ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 15:44:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig X-Sender: michaelj@paddington Reply-To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: MIME-encoded Att. without Name? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Peter said: >> On 19 Jul 1995, Michael Joswig wrote: >> When I attach a binary file the receiving end (Using Sun Mailtool) gets >> the attachment as a plain file, no name of type given. The attachment can >> be saved and (if the receiver knows how) processed. >> Does anybody have a clue what I did wrong? > I don't think that Mailtool is MIME compliant. Regards, Petter Blomberg Hmm, I've received some MIME-encoded Tools and know that mailtool can handle them. There are two lines right before the encoded part telling which encoding is used and which name the encoded part has. I've looked (using vi) in the mailfile and can't see these lines. So I really think this is an error in my pine. still clueless, Michael J. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 20 08:09:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14160; Thu, 20 Jul 95 08:09:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15560; Thu, 20 Jul 95 07:57:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15554; Thu, 20 Jul 95 07:57:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYx2F-00038CC; Thu, 20 Jul 95 07:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ostahl@lsw.uni-heidelberg.de (Otmar Stahl) Subject: test, please ignore Date: 20 Jul 1995 11:04:49 GMT Message-Id: <3uld8h$r0b@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Status: O X-Status: test only, please ignore From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 20 08:57:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16250; Thu, 20 Jul 95 08:57:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12050; Thu, 20 Jul 95 08:47:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12044; Thu, 20 Jul 95 08:47:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYxnF-00038CC; Thu, 20 Jul 95 08:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fehnwana@liverpool.ac.uk (Mr G.F. Nwana) Subject: Printing from PC-Pine Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 15:10:06 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi all, Does anyone know if it is possible to print directly form PC-PINE? TIA, Gerald From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 20 09:50:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19228; Thu, 20 Jul 95 09:50:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17958; Thu, 20 Jul 95 09:40:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17952; Thu, 20 Jul 95 09:40:05 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20014; Thu, 20 Jul 95 09:40:00 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 09:39:54 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Cynthia Guy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: subset of news In-Reply-To: <3ujl2o$bu1@pioneer.uspto.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 19 Jul 1995, Cynthia Guy wrote: > 1st question: > > I need to setup pine to look at a subset of my news list. When I put a > value into the nntp-server, the news-collections gets filled in with the > nntp name. I added the subset news group in the [ ] space and when I > restart pine, it says that it is empty, but I know it is not. > What, specifically, did you try? You should be able to use something like "*{server/nntp}[comp.*]" to limit the collection to the comp hierarchy... > 2nd question: > > I want to find out if you can change the character that Pine uses to precede > each line of text when replying to a message? > Not until Pine 3.92 comes out... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 20 10:06:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20036; Thu, 20 Jul 95 10:06:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18312; Thu, 20 Jul 95 09:57:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18304; Thu, 20 Jul 95 09:57:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sYyqC-00038CC; Thu, 20 Jul 95 09:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eigil Krogh Sorensen Subject: PC-Pine and SCO MMDF folder problem Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 18:33:18 -0900 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: We are using PC-Pine 3.91 with a SCO UNIX system as server running imapd and MMDF. Wery often it happens that when we will save an e-mail to a folder on the SCO from the PC-Pine we get the message the folder isn't a correct MMDF folder. If we then edit the folder it appears that the ^A^A^A^A before and after alle or most of the mails in the folder is missing. We then must put in the ^A^A^A^A by hand if we want to be able to save to that folder from PC-Pine again. That can be a very big job, if there are very many e-mails in the folder. With the SCO-UNIX version of Pine 3.91 we never have that problem. Is there a fix to SCO imapd or something that solves the problem ? Thanks in advance for any help -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- VKI ! ! Water Quality Institute !Phone: !E-mail: Science Park Aarhus ! +45 86 20 20 00 or ! 10, Gustav Wieds Vej ! +45 86 20 20 11 local 2114 ! eks@aar-vki.dk DK-8000 Aarhus C !Fax: ! DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 20 11:48:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25054; Thu, 20 Jul 95 11:48:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16507; Thu, 20 Jul 95 11:37:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16501; Thu, 20 Jul 95 11:37:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZ0Sg-00038CC; Thu, 20 Jul 95 11:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: Re: PINE and Automated message Date: 20 Jul 1995 17:17:40 GMT Message-Id: <3um33k$jav@tadpole.fc.hp.com> References: <3uh1r5$oi6@news.doit.wisc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Sandra Wald (swald@cde2s.ssc.wisc.edu) wrote: : Hi, : I have an user who asked if when he is on vacation, if PINE could reply : automatically to all incoming mail with a message text saying user is gone : and will be back at such and such date. On a UNIX machine, at the shell prompt, enter man vacation It will tell you about the .vacation utility in conjunction with the .forward file. (and the answer to your user's question is YES ) -- + DAVID MULLANEY Email: mullaney@fc.hp.com (970) 229-7629 + + Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 20 12:18:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26398; Thu, 20 Jul 95 12:18:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21508; Thu, 20 Jul 95 12:08:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21502; Thu, 20 Jul 95 12:08:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZ0sZ-00038CC; Thu, 20 Jul 95 12:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: Re: Attachments/MIME Date: 20 Jul 1995 17:21:20 GMT Message-Id: <3um3ag$jav@tadpole.fc.hp.com> References: <3uhcnq$o4c@informer.cc.GaSoU.EDU> Status: O X-Status: Jackie Robbins (cssjr04@gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU) wrote: : Does anybody know why the other machines see the message as MIME : formated? Is the new version sticking some : super-secret-magic-decoder-ring-type thing in the message? (neato!) : I don't see any pinerc settings dealing with MIME except where you : specify an image-viewer. Didn't see any compile time options relating to : this either. Any pearls of wisdom? QUICK FIX: Use Ctrl-R to read in your ascii text file rather than attaching it. I gave up on attaching files when people on the same network couldn't read my attachments in xmh. -- + DAVID MULLANEY Email: mullaney@fc.hp.com (970) 229-7629 + + Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 20 15:20:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04828; Thu, 20 Jul 95 15:20:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21486; Thu, 20 Jul 95 15:13:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21480; Thu, 20 Jul 95 15:13:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZ3od-00038EC; Thu, 20 Jul 95 15:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: problem on SCO Unix on 486 Date: 19 Jul 1995 14:08:37 GMT Message-Id: <3uj3l5$t73@tristram.edc.org> References: <3ue2dq$s9b@hawk.branch.com> Status: O X-Status: Jon Zeeff (jon@branch.com) wrote: : We continue to have a problems when using the Pine software for various : users. They keep receiving the following message: : Bug in Pine detected "rec'd abort signal" : exiting Pine : attempting to save debug file to /usr/garnet/pine crash No idea. Is the pine.crash file telling you anything especially interesting? You might also build with -g, and go do a stack trace on the core file. Also, are you using sendmail or MMDF? : We then hit any key to continue. : When we try to use Pine for this user again it cannot open their INBOX. : It locks them up in our computer and we then have to kill the process : using the root directory command. : Any solutions on how to correct this problem? This second part is actually a file locking problem, most likely. The previous instance did not have a chance to remove the locking file for the mailbox, and the new instance detects the lock file, but can't find a process to alert that it's taking it. Pine's solution is to wait patiently for five minutes for the process to respond, and then remove the lock file and go on with its life. The lock file is /usr/spool/mail/username.lock, which you can remove yourself. Or just wait for five minutes until it gives up. : Any ideas on this? Does anyone have a SCO Unix binary that I could get : a copy of? Try the compiled binaries available on ftp.celestial.com (there are two sets), and odi.cwc.whecn.edu (just one set). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 20 17:22:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10044; Thu, 20 Jul 95 17:22:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27684; Thu, 20 Jul 95 17:08:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27678; Thu, 20 Jul 95 17:08:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZ5bN-00038CC; Thu, 20 Jul 95 17:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kford@teleport.com (Kelly Ford) Subject: Customizing the Message Index Date: 20 Jul 1995 16:58:55 -0700 Message-Id: <3umqjv$aou@kelly.teleport.com> Status: O X-Status: I wonder if there's anyway to customize the way information is displayed when viewing the message index? I happen to access Pine with a screen reading program (I'm blind) and would really like to change the order that I read things like the message time, sender and such. I'd like to be able to have the subject appear first when viewing the index. Is there anyway to do this? -- Kelly Ford kford@teleport.com See my home page at http://metro.turnpike.net/kford/index.html. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 20 23:39:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19082; Thu, 20 Jul 95 23:39:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29585; Thu, 20 Jul 95 23:29:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29579; Thu, 20 Jul 95 23:29:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZBXD-00038CC; Thu, 20 Jul 95 23:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gweil@ibeam.jf.intel.com (Garry A Weil) Subject: Re: IMAP Client for Mac - Here's a new one! Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 14:30:00 -900 Message-Id: <3umhqg$9bc@news.jf.intel.com> References: <3ttq1t$ekt@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: In article <3ttq1t$ekt@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> cd102@phy.cam.ac.uk wrote: > Hi, > I've been developing an IMAP client for the Macintosh called Mulberry. Its currently very close to completion. Its being beta tested by a number of people in the UK, but I'd quite like to have a few international beta testers as well, so if you'd like to test it please email me: > > Cyrus Daboo > > Features include: > > -Full drag & drop support for messages - you can drag messages between mailboxes to copy them etc., or drag to the Finder to create a clipping file. > > -Can open multiple mailbox windows. > > -Mailbox windows are fully configurable - you can choose which information to have displayed (e.g. message size, message sender, subject etc). > > -Outgoing mail can be automatically recorded in any mailbox. > > Are you still accepting beta testers? I would like to help you test it out. Thanks, Garry Weil -- ---------- Garry Weil Intel Corp. Indeo(R) Technology Support Developer Relations Group (800) 628-8686, 1-3-1 gweil@ibeam.intel.com ---------- ftp://ftp.intel.com/pub/IAL/multimedia http://www.intel.com/IAL/indeo/indeo.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 20 23:48:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19323; Thu, 20 Jul 95 23:48:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02759; Thu, 20 Jul 95 23:39:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02753; Thu, 20 Jul 95 23:39:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZBjj-00038CC; Thu, 20 Jul 95 23:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mkyan@cs.cuhk.hk (Forrest Gump) Subject: Re: signature line at end of mail Date: 21 Jul 1995 05:29:06 GMT Message-Id: <3undv2$p3d@eng_ser1.erg.cuhk.hk> References: Status: O X-Status: Mike Brudenell (pmb1@mailer.york.ac.uk) wrote: > Assuming you are using the UNIX version of Pine... > Simply use your favourite editor to create a file called ".signature" in > your home directory. Put in this file any text you want included at the > end of each message you send. General advice is to keep it 4 lines long > or less. Or even after editing a file called .signature does not help, try to edit the file ".pinerc" in your home directory, there should be two line "localsignature" and "remotesignature", set these two line to "localsignature=~/.signature" and "remotesignature=~/.signature" > > > > Can anyone help me set up a signature line that is automatically > > added to mail text that I write in Pine? I have accessed the www sites > > and FAQ's concerning questions about Pine but have been unable to find > > the information I need. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > Greg Abel > > Abel@utkvx.utk.edu > > -- ________________________________ /| /| | Name:Martin Yan Age:20 | ||__|| | Home page : | / O O\__ http://www.cs.cuhk.hk/~mkyan | / \ Talk to me, i am bored!!!! | / \ \ | / _ \ \ ---------------------------- / |\____\ \ || / | | | |\____/ || / \|_|_|/ | __|| / / \ |____| || / | | /| | --| | | |// |____ --| * _ | |_|_|_| | \-/ *-- _--\ _ \ // | / _ \\ _ // | / * / \_ /- | - | | * ___ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________ _________ _____________ ______________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 00:28:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20344; Fri, 21 Jul 95 00:28:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00293; Fri, 21 Jul 95 00:14:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00287; Fri, 21 Jul 95 00:14:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZCEQ-00038CC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 00:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mkyan@cs.cuhk.hk (Forrest Gump) Subject: Auto sent receipt ??? Date: 21 Jul 1995 05:24:46 GMT Message-Id: <3undmu$p3d@eng_ser1.erg.cuhk.hk> Status: O X-Status: I am a new pine users, but is there any way that i can ask the program to send an acknowledgement receipt to all people who mail me Thanx -- ________________________________ /| /| | Name:Martin Yan Age:20 | ||__|| | Home page : | / O O\__ http://www.cs.cuhk.hk/~mkyan | / \ Talk to me, i am bored!!!! | / \ \ | / _ \ \ ---------------------------- / |\____\ \ || / | | | |\____/ || / \|_|_|/ | __|| / / \ |____| || / | | /| | --| | | |// |____ --| * _ | |_|_|_| | \-/ *-- _--\ _ \ // | / _ \\ _ // | / * / \_ /- | - | | * ___ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________ _________ _____________ ______________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 00:46:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20789; Fri, 21 Jul 95 00:46:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00657; Fri, 21 Jul 95 00:39:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00651; Fri, 21 Jul 95 00:39:19 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 21 Jul 95 15:37:17 +0800 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 15:37:16 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Forrest Gump Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: signature line at end of mail In-Reply-To: <3undv2$p3d@eng_ser1.erg.cuhk.hk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 21 Jul 1995, Forrest Gump wrote: > Or even after editing a file called .signature does not help, try to edit > the file ".pinerc" in your home directory, there should be two line > "localsignature" and "remotesignature", set these two line to > "localsignature=~/.signature" and "remotesignature=~/.signature" You are confusing pine with elm..... (I could use a line from the movie..... :-) :-) ) There is no localsignature or remotesignature parameter in the pinerc. Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 00:47:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20815; Fri, 21 Jul 95 00:47:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03540; Fri, 21 Jul 95 00:44:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03534; Fri, 21 Jul 95 00:44:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZCh9-00038CC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 00:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rperk%rperk@kaiwan.com (Ray Perkinson) Subject: Re: Can Pine Retreive Mail over PPP link? Date: 21 Jul 1995 05:49:26 GMT Message-Id: <3unf56$h15@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> References: <3ui29i$rbt@mars.hyperk.com> Status: O X-Status: Rob Lundahl (que@srv.net) wrote: : I would like to run Linux and have pine as the mailer. : Can pine retreive my mail when I dial up like Eudora? : I don't want to have a new mail address that involves my host : name. Linux comes with a utility called popclient type 'man popclient' without the quotes of course. I use popclient and it puts the mail in my system mailbox. I have the .pinerc configured to send to smtp.kaiwan.com instead of sendmail and can therefore send mail to anyone who is not on my system. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 01:11:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21859; Fri, 21 Jul 95 01:11:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03831; Fri, 21 Jul 95 01:05:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nice.ncore.soft.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03825; Fri, 21 Jul 95 01:05:51 -0700 Received: by nice (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m0sZMUs-000K6sC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 14:08 IST Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 14:08:25 +0100 From: "Raman M." Subject: mail headers To: cac.washington.edu!pine-info@ncore.soft.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: pine seems to take the return address (for reply) from the from: field of the message. This field is likely to be stuffed by pine when a mail is sent. The problem is have this my system (host name agni ) is a node on the mail server (ncore.soft.net) which is on the internet. agni is not publicly listed, while ncore.soft.net is So the true address for my system is @ncore.soft.net!agni, while the fully qualified host name is agni.ncore.soft.net (which is not listed). When pine generates ( or is it sendmail ?) the from: field it puts the fully qualified host name e.g raman@agni.ncore.soft.net How do i ask pine to make it raman@ncore.soft.net!agni ? Alternatively there is a from field in the beginning of the header, which is correctly inserted by sendmail. Cant pine use this instead ? or shouldn't it use the Return-Path: field ? -----------------------BEGIN HEADER------------------------------------ >From root@ncore.soft.net!agni Fri Jul 21 13:26:20 1995 >> >> the above line gives the correct return address >> Return-Path: >> >> this is also correct >> Received: from agni by nice with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m0sZLq8-000K6sC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 13:26 EDT Received: by agni (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m0sZLNr-0004IcC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 12:57 IST Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 12:57:06 +0100 From: System Administrator >> >> This in not what i need it to be >> Subject: hello ----------------------END OF HEADER------------------------ -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Raman M Email : raman@ncore.soft.net Ncore Technology Pvt Ltd., Phone : 91-80-558 0405 Fax : 91-80-558 7690 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 02:12:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23552; Fri, 21 Jul 95 02:12:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01932; Fri, 21 Jul 95 02:00:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01926; Fri, 21 Jul 95 02:00:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZDte-00038HC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 01:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Horst_Hanak Subject: Re: Attachments/MIME Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 09:16:44 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 18 Jul 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > > > > o If you want to send text that is *not* MIME-encoded, *include* it in > the message via ^R, rather than *attaching* the text file. > This will only be true, if charters in the included file have only ASCII values below 128!!! See the remark of 'David L Miller',in an article 'Re: help with MIME in Pine' in newsgroup comp.mail.pine. --------------------------------------------------------------------- > On 17 Jul 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > > > Pine 3.91, as distributed, _always_ uses MIME. Any occurance of a > > character with an ASCII value of 128 or above will trigger MIME > > Quoted-Printable encoding. Pine will only label a message as > >ISO-8859-1 > if it includes characters outside of 7bit US-ASCII. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > I suspect the reason the forwarded version of the message doesn't decode > is that it is missing the MIME-Version header, which is essential. > Teaching the recipient mailers to be MIME-aware (e.g. installing the > Metamail package) would also solve this. There are also stand-alone MIME > encoders/decoders, such as mpack/munpack from CMU... > > -teg > > On 18 Jul 1995, Jackie Robbins wrote: > > > Under our old version of pine, 3.05a, we were able to send attachments Horst Hanak __________________________________________________________________ Forschungszentrum Karlsruhe E-Mail: Hanak@infp.KfK.DE Institut:INFP Horst Hanak ------------------------- Postfach 3640 tel: +49 7247/82-3353 D 76021 Karlsruhe / Germany fax: +49 7247/82-4624 __________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 02:16:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23630; Fri, 21 Jul 95 02:16:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04600; Fri, 21 Jul 95 02:09:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ben.Britain.EU.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04594; Fri, 21 Jul 95 02:09:24 -0700 Received: from asbestos.march.co.uk by ben.britain.eu.net via UKIP with SMTP (PP) id ; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 10:09:07 +0100 Received: (from mail@localhost) by asbestos.march.co.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA01764; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 09:09:47 +0100 Received: from march(193.118.6.254) by asbestos via smap (V1.3) id sma001760; Fri Jul 21 09:09:20 1995 Received: from march by march with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0sZE5h-0003k9C; Fri, 21 Jul 95 10:09 BST Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 10:09:53 +0100 (BST) From: Ross Wakelin X-Sender: rossw@march Reply-To: r.wakelin@march.co.uk To: Andy Smith Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Compiling Pine/IMAP for an ICL DRS6000 ? In-Reply-To: <3ul9d7$im5@soap.pipex.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 20 Jul 1995, Andy Smith wrote: > > Help! > At present I run Pine on several HP9000 servers under HP-UX. This was no > problem as the binaries are freely available. > > Unfortunately, I have been asked to set up Pine on an ICL DRS6000 running > SVR4. I cannot find any compiled code for Pine/IMAP for this > machine/operating system and when I try to download the source > pine.3.91.tar.Z I cannot unpack it ( even on my HP9000, where the tar -xvf > command tells me the tar directory is corrupt ). > > If anyone has any ideas on either running Pine on the ICL or unpacking the > pine source tar file so I can compile it myself then I would be very > grateful. > > Cheers > > Andy Smith > Project Manager - Field Group plc - United Kingdom > We run pine successfully on various versions of ICL's DRS/NX, on both DRS3000 and DRS6000 systems. If you let me know what you need (V6 vs V7 etc), I can let you have binaries, or give you the current distribution Cheers Ross Wakelin r.wakelin@march.co.uk Open Systems Director March Systems Consultancy Ltd +44 1734 304 224 or rossw@manuka.demon.co.uk at home PGP signature available -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQBFAgUBMA9u1R0pnLznJe+lAQFTmQGAlbXmMAvLwtc1JdJCvgVbXYRwGlrVz5my m0GEZDgYhFKmt2AgY6xaYUO8ERX5VIEL =/EA3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 02:39:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24164; Fri, 21 Jul 95 02:39:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04888; Fri, 21 Jul 95 02:35:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nice.ncore.soft.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04882; Fri, 21 Jul 95 02:35:28 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by nice with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m0sZNsl-000K6sC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 15:37 EDT Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 21 Jul 95 17:32:21 +0800 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 17:32:20 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "Raman M." Cc: cac.washington.edu!pine-info@ncore.soft.net Subject: Re: mail headers In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 21 Jul 1995, Raman M. wrote: > pine seems to take the return address (for reply) from the from: > field of the message. This field is likely to be stuffed by pine > when a mail is sent. The problem is have this > > my system (host name agni ) is a node on the mail server (ncore.soft.net) > which is on the internet. agni is not publicly listed, while ncore.soft.net is > So the true address for my system is @ncore.soft.net!agni, while the fully > qualified host name is agni.ncore.soft.net (which is not listed). > When pine generates ( or is it sendmail ?) the from: field it puts the fully qualified > host name e.g raman@agni.ncore.soft.net > > How do i ask pine to make it raman@ncore.soft.net!agni ? If you are using pine 3.9X, then look in the configuration..... Here is the "help" OPTION: User-Domain This value specifies the domain part (right-hand side) of your return address on outgoing email and is also used as the default domain for email composed to a local user. If unset, Unix Pine will obtain the domain from the system. Often this value will be set for your whole site by the system administrator. If you set this, see also the "quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file" feature. > Alternatively there is a from field in the beginning of the header, which is > correctly inserted by sendmail. Cant pine use this instead ? > or shouldn't it use the Return-Path: field ? BTW, if you are using "!" addressing for hosts that are connected via a LAN then you are in serious need of help with your configuration. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 03:18:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25161; Fri, 21 Jul 95 03:18:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05255; Fri, 21 Jul 95 03:09:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05249; Fri, 21 Jul 95 03:09:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZF06-00038CC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 03:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lemmanp@ohsu.edu (Paul Lemman) Subject: Help compiling Pine w/Solaris 2.4 and SunPro compiler Date: 20 Jul 1995 00:37:45 GMT Message-Id: <3uk8gp$fol@steele.ohsu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Can anyone offer any pointers on compiling Pine 3.91 on Solaris 2.4 with either the SunPro or Gnu compilers? Both break when trying to compile the address book code. Making Pine. /opt1/SUNWspro/bin/cc -DSV4 -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -c addrbook.c -o addrbook.o "/usr/include/stdlib.h", line 141: identifier redeclared: getopt current : function(int, pointer to pointer to char, pointer to char) returning int previous: function(int, pointer to const pointer to char, pointer to const char) returning int : "/usr/include/stdio.h", li3 "/usr/include/stdlib.h", line 142: identifier redeclared: getsubopt current : function(pointer to pointer to char, pointer to pointer to char, pointer to pointer to char) returning int previous: function(pointer to pointer to char, pointer to const pointer to char, pointer to pointer to char) returning int 5 "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 225: identifier redeclared: rename current : function(pointer to char, pointer to char) returning int previous: function(pointer to const char, pointer to const char) returning int : "/usr/include/stdio.h", line 148 "addrbook.c", line 3954: cannot recover from previous errors cc: acomp failed for addrbook.c make: *** [addrbook.o] Error 2 -- Paul Lemman Internet: lemmanp@ohsu.edu Network Analyst Phone: (503) 494-4537 Network Technical Services US Mail: 840 SW Gaines Rd GH113 Oregon Health Sciences University Portland, OR 97201-2985 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 04:11:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26781; Fri, 21 Jul 95 04:11:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06021; Fri, 21 Jul 95 04:06:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06015; Fri, 21 Jul 95 04:06:13 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 21 Jul 95 19:04:15 +0800 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 19:04:14 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Paul Lemman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help compiling Pine w/Solaris 2.4 and SunPro compiler In-Reply-To: <3uk8gp$fol@steele.ohsu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 20 Jul 1995, Paul Lemman wrote: > > Can anyone offer any pointers on compiling Pine 3.91 on Solaris 2.4 with either > the SunPro or Gnu compilers? Both break when trying to compile the address > book code. > > Making Pine. > /opt1/SUNWspro/bin/cc -DSV4 -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -c addrbook.c -o addrbook.o > "/usr/include/stdlib.h", line 141: identifier redeclared: getopt > current : function(int, pointer to pointer to char, pointer to char) returning int > previous: function(int, pointer to const pointer to char, pointer to const char) returning int : "/usr/include/stdio.h", li3 > "/usr/include/stdlib.h", line 142: identifier redeclared: getsubopt > current : function(pointer to pointer to char, pointer to pointer to char, pointer to pointer to char) returning int > previous: function(pointer to pointer to char, pointer to const pointer to char, pointer to pointer to char) returning int 5 > "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 225: identifier redeclared: rename > current : function(pointer to char, pointer to char) returning int > previous: function(pointer to const char, pointer to const char) returning int : "/usr/include/stdio.h", line 148 > "addrbook.c", line 3954: cannot recover from previous errors > cc: acomp failed for addrbook.c > make: *** [addrbook.o] Error 2 In your makefile.sol add -Dconst= to the CFLAGS. Also, insure that you don't have /usr/ucb/lib in your LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 04:54:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27655; Fri, 21 Jul 95 04:54:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06395; Fri, 21 Jul 95 04:46:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06389; Fri, 21 Jul 95 04:46:31 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA24250; Fri, 21 Jul 95 13:44:32 +0200 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 13:44:31 +0200 (METDST) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?=)" To: The Pine Discussion List Cc: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug in interpreting Folder-collections content Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: Hallo! I've found an interesting bug in pine 3.91. I am running it on HP 9000/720 using hp-UX 8.05. When I specify multiple Folder-collections, the one before last is an anonymous IMAP collection and the last is empty (nothing, "" without quotes), then I can find strange thing having pressed L (List folders). I see the news collection specified as second from end and then I see non expanded (although I have selected expanded view of folders) collection with name looking like garbled name of the previos one (the server name begins with the path information from the previous one and continue with some garbage). This does not happen if I remove the last folder collection. But I like to have it there because sometimes I need to add a new collection AFTER the last written there and this is not possible with the Add command. Regards V. S. P. S. I think pine is a great program and I am thankful to all from the development team. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-{en|cz|ce}.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 05:46:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28933; Fri, 21 Jul 95 05:46:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04739; Fri, 21 Jul 95 05:33:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04733; Fri, 21 Jul 95 05:33:06 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07447; Fri, 21 Jul 95 05:32:40 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 05:32:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Horst_Hanak Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Attachments/MIME In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Yes, sorry: I should have said *plain* text (or limited the context of the statment to *base-64* encoding.) Note that it would be a violation of Internet standards to send NON-plain text without some form of MIME-encoding. -teg On Fri, 21 Jul 1995, Horst_Hanak wrote: > On 18 Jul 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > > > o If you want to send text that is *not* MIME-encoded, *include* it in > > the message via ^R, rather than *attaching* the text file. > > This will only be true, if charters in the included file have only > ASCII values below 128!!! See the remark of 'David L Miller',in an > article 'Re: help with MIME in Pine' in newsgroup comp.mail.pine. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On 17 Jul 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > > Pine 3.91, as distributed, _always_ uses MIME. Any occurance of a > > > character with an ASCII value of 128 or above will trigger MIME > > > Quoted-Printable encoding. Pine will only label a message as > > >ISO-8859-1 > if it includes characters outside of 7bit US-ASCII. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > I suspect the reason the forwarded version of the message doesn't decode > > is that it is missing the MIME-Version header, which is essential. > > Teaching the recipient mailers to be MIME-aware (e.g. installing the > > Metamail package) would also solve this. There are also stand-alone MIME > > encoders/decoders, such as mpack/munpack from CMU... > > > > -teg > > > > On 18 Jul 1995, Jackie Robbins wrote: > > > > > Under our old version of pine, 3.05a, we were able to send attachments > > Horst Hanak > __________________________________________________________________ > Forschungszentrum Karlsruhe E-Mail: Hanak@infp.KfK.DE > Institut:INFP Horst Hanak ------------------------- > Postfach 3640 tel: +49 7247/82-3353 > D 76021 Karlsruhe / Germany fax: +49 7247/82-4624 > __________________________________________________________________ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 07:15:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00832; Fri, 21 Jul 95 07:15:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06004; Fri, 21 Jul 95 07:05:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05998; Fri, 21 Jul 95 07:05:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZIh8-00038CC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 07:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: The '+' in Folder Index Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 14:02:26 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi! In the Folder Index of some of my mail folders (left behind the Flag 'N' or 'A' or ...) there are some '+'. Who can tell me what the '+' means? I read the Online help but I did not find it... THX for helping me... Ralf From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 08:28:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03218; Fri, 21 Jul 95 08:28:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08890; Fri, 21 Jul 95 08:17:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from goggins.bath.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08878; Fri, 21 Jul 95 08:17:17 -0700 Received: from bath.ac.uk (actually host mary.bath.ac.uk) by goggins.bath.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 21 Jul 1995 16:12:56 +0100 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 16:14:14 +0100 (BST) From: mickey To: Ralf Wenzel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: The '+' in Folder Index In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This is taken direct from Help(?) on the Folder screen. Once you've pressed '?', press the space bar a couple of times and you'll get to a list of the flags. "+" for direct-to-you. The "+" indicates that a message was sent directly to your account, your copy is not part of a cc: or a mailing list. On Fri, 21 Jul 1995, Ralf Wenzel wrote: > Hi! > > In the Folder Index of some of my mail folders (left behind the Flag 'N' > or 'A' or ...) there are some '+'. > > Who can tell me what the '+' means? I read the Online help but I did not > find it... > > THX for helping me... > > Ralf > ******************************************************* Get informed, have a laugh, read alt.religion.scientology ******************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 09:44:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07214; Fri, 21 Jul 95 09:44:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10546; Fri, 21 Jul 95 09:34:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10540; Fri, 21 Jul 95 09:34:23 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23028; Fri, 21 Jul 95 09:33:07 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 09:33:01 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Kelly Ford Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Customizing the Message Index In-Reply-To: <3umqjv$aou@kelly.teleport.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 20 Jul 1995, Kelly Ford wrote: > I wonder if there's anyway to customize the way information is displayed > when viewing the message index? I happen to access Pine with a screen > reading program (I'm blind) and would really like to change the order > that I read things like the message time, sender and such. I'd like to > be able to have the subject appear first when viewing the index. Is > there anyway to do this? > Not yet, but there will be in Pine 3.92... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 10:25:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09086; Fri, 21 Jul 95 10:25:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11316; Fri, 21 Jul 95 10:14:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server1.deltanet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11310; Fri, 21 Jul 95 10:14:01 -0700 Received: from delta1.deltanet.com by deltanet.com with SMTP (5.65/1.2-eef) id AA24822; Fri, 21 Jul 95 10:13:56 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 10:13:55 -700 (PDT) From: Michael Green To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Continue interrupted composition message Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-10113-806343371=:15340" Content-Id: Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-10113-806343371=:15340 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: When I type 'c' to compose a message, I get the following message: Continue interrupted composition (answering "n" won't erase it)? If I type 'y', I will get the following message: [Empty folder, No messages really postponed!] Has anyone seen this problem before? ---559023410-10113-806343371=:15340-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 10:33:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09354; Fri, 21 Jul 95 10:33:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11391; Fri, 21 Jul 95 10:17:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11385; Fri, 21 Jul 95 10:17:53 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24852; Fri, 21 Jul 95 10:17:36 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 10:17:33 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?=)" Cc: The Pine Discussion List , pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bug in interpreting Folder-collections content In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: I don't see quite the same behavior, but a NULL folder collection does seem to have some quirks. But, Pine 3.92 will have an option to add to the end of a list, so your work-around will no longer be needed... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 21 Jul 1995, Vladimir Solnicky (=3D?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=3DEDr_Solni= ck=3DFD?=3D) wrote: > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 13:44:31 +0200 (METDST) > From: Vladimir Solnicky (=3D?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=3DEDr_Solnick=3DFD?=3D) = > To: The Pine Discussion List > Cc: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Bug in interpreting Folder-collections content > > Hallo! > > I've found an interesting bug in pine 3.91. I am running it on HP > 9000/720 using hp-UX 8.05. When I specify multiple Folder-collections, th= e > one before last is an anonymous IMAP collection and the last is empty > (nothing, "" without quotes), then I can find strange thing having presse= d > L (List folders). I see the news collection specified as second from end > and then I see non expanded (although I have selected expanded view of > folders) collection with name looking like garbled name of the previos on= e > (the server name begins with the path information from the previous one > and continue with some garbage). This does not happen if I remove the las= t > folder collection. But I like to have it there because > sometimes I need to add a new collection AFTER the last written there and > this is not possible with the Add command. > > Regards V. S. > > P. S. I think pine is a great program and I am thankful to all from the > development team. > > | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) > | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR > \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 > Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben > +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic > +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz > http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-{en|cz|ce}.html > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 11:26:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11640; Fri, 21 Jul 95 11:26:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11754; Fri, 21 Jul 95 11:21:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11745; Fri, 21 Jul 95 11:21:40 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27083; Fri, 21 Jul 95 11:21:28 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 11:21:21 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Michael Green Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Continue interrupted composition message In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This is a known bug that will be fixed in Pine 3.92. In the mean time, find and dselete the ".pine-interrupted-mail" file in your home directory... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 21 Jul 1995, Michael Green wrote: > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 10:13:55 -700 (PDT) > From: Michael Green > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Continue interrupted composition message > > When I type 'c' to compose a message, I get the following message: > > Continue interrupted composition (answering "n" won't erase it)? > > If I type 'y', I will get the following message: > > [Empty folder, No messages really postponed!] > > Has anyone seen this problem before? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 11:39:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12167; Fri, 21 Jul 95 11:39:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12796; Fri, 21 Jul 95 11:31:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12790; Fri, 21 Jul 95 11:31:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZMoM-00038CC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 11:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jwwhatley Subject: PINE V3.91 and VMS Question(s) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 10:14:41 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have Yehavi's version of the VMS port running on our VAX systems under VMS V6.1. I built Pine with NETLIB and everything in general is working fine. However, there are some things we want to get working that I don't have the background or knowledge to do. It has been YEARS since I had to do anything like this (but am having a ball trying). I have many questions but will stick to the first 2 or 3 that I have been asked to try and solve. (1) As documented by Yehavi, the "default-fcc" field must be set to "" in the configuration field. We hope someone has or that Yehavi eventually will get this functionality in the VMS port. Anyone done this? (2) I asked Yehavi about this question, but perhaps this is a better forum to ask: I would like for files like .addressbook, .addressbook_lu, and .signature to live somewhere other than SYS$LOGIN. I tried modifying [.PINE]OS.H to redirect df_mail_directory, df_signature_file, and df_addressbook, but had no success. (3) When in a newsgroup (such as this one), I delete posts I have read or are no longer interested in. But, they always reappear when I go back into the newsgroup Index (even a few days later). I understand that Pine handles news in the mail paradigm where the post is not really deleted, but is supposed to be "marked" somehow in the .newsrc file so these deleted posts don't show up in the Index. However, this does not appear to be working. Any help will be appreciated. =-=-> joe =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Joe Whatley JWWhatley@HealthPartners.com HealthPartners Phone: 612-883-6487 8100 34th Ave. S. Fax: 612-883-6363 PO Box 1309 Minneapolis, MN 55440-1309 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 14:14:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19288; Fri, 21 Jul 95 14:14:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15964; Fri, 21 Jul 95 14:06:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15958; Fri, 21 Jul 95 14:06:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZPEQ-00038EC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 14:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Francisco Silva Domingues Subject: ispell on Pine, answer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 21:44:45 GMT Status: O X-Status: Sorry, ignore my last question, I got the answer on the Pine site on the WWW : http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/faq/usage.html#ispell From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 14:26:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19940; Fri, 21 Jul 95 14:26:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16427; Fri, 21 Jul 95 14:16:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16421; Fri, 21 Jul 95 14:16:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZPQH-00038EC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 14:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: boritz@cs.ubc.ca (James Boritz) Subject: Re: Attachments/MIME Date: 21 Jul 1995 12:44:35 -0700 Message-Id: <3up033$n8f@pinnacle.cs.ubc.ca> References: <3uhcnq$o4c@informer.cc.GaSoU.EDU> Status: O X-Status: gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray) writes: >3.05 is so ancient I had to think for awhile about what it did... I >believe way-back-then (Summer '92) we didn't yet MIME-encode text >attachments. The reason we changed to encode all attachments (including >text) was to ensure the integrity of the attached file. In Internet mail >transport, there can be subtle corruptions of text files which can >sometimes matter (e.g. stripping trailing blanks, tab expansion, escaping >"From " lines, etc), and we felt that anything *attached* should be >delivered without any corruption, even if many times folks aren't so picky >about text files. That was, after all, a key goal of MIME... When pine encounters a unencoded text attachment it happily displays it. When an encoded text attachment is encountered, the attached text must be viewed using the view attachment command. It just happens that one of the mail systems we use includes signatures as attachments. Because of pine's behaviour I see the signature without having to resort to view attachment. Unfortunately because of the text encoding I cannot duplicate the behaviour. I also don't think that reading a text file in offers the same benefit as being able to attach a text file. If text files are read in (using ^R) then the recipient has the burden of breaking the attachments into parts. If files are attachments then the mail reader handles the segmentation. Now the people without MIME aware clients are going to lose somewhere, but because I have read in the text, the people with MIME aware clients lose as well. So, it would be nice to be able to have unencoded text attachments. -- + Jim Boritz | Dream-furniture is the only kind on which you never boritz@cs.ubc.ca | stub your toes or bang your knee. U of British Columbia + -- C. S. Lewis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 15:19:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22503; Fri, 21 Jul 95 15:19:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17688; Fri, 21 Jul 95 15:16:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17682; Fri, 21 Jul 95 15:16:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZQMU-00038HC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 15:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bmoore@cie-2.uoregon.edu (Zump) Subject: Re: TCP_WRAPPERS, sendmail and Pine Date: 21 Jul 1995 21:39:14 GMT Message-Id: <3up6q2$nm7@pith.uoregon.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: H. Marc Kneppers (kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca) wrote: : Currently, sendmail runs as a daemon: sendmail -bd -q30m : I want to monitor the acitivity on port 25, so I entered the following : line in inetd.conf: : smtp stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/etc/tcpd /usr/local/sbin/sendmail.wrap : The program sendmail.wrap does some local things and then executes : sendmail as: sendmail -bs : So far, so good. : Now, if I telnet to port 25, I get the following recorded in syslog : <22>Jul 21 11:16:35 1995 PAMCO_UX sendmail.wrap[3108]: connect from PAMCO_UX : This is good - as well, internal mail mworks fine as well (within the : same host). : PROBLEM: : My PC-Pine has stopped working. It connects (from a PC) to its mail files on : Unix via IMAP and that works fine but when it tries to send a message back : it fails. I don't get any record of it connecting to port 25 and I can't : send mail. read the README: In that case, sendmail should not be run as a stand-alone network listener, but it should be registered in the inetd configuration file. For example: smtp stream tcp nowait root /usr/etc/tcpd /usr/lib/sendmail -bs You will still need to run one sendmail background process to handle queued-up outgoing mail. A command like: /usr/lib/sendmail -q15m From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 15:21:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22569; Fri, 21 Jul 95 15:21:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17454; Fri, 21 Jul 95 15:11:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17448; Fri, 21 Jul 95 15:11:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZQEX-00038HC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 15:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nai.net@nai.net (Wayne Adams) Subject: Can send but not receive (2nd try) Date: 21 Jul 1995 19:39:31 GMT Message-Id: <3uovpj$bdk@a3bsrv.nai.net> Status: O X-Status: Hi, I'm trying to get Pine v3.91 working and all seems well except for the fact that I can't receive mail! What do I need to do to correct this? I'm a single user from the home using DIP to access the I-net via a SLIP acct. Currently running Sendmail 8.6.9 and kernel 1.3.11. Sorry that I'm duplicating the 1st msg, since you can't email a response. TIA, Wayne From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 16:20:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24883; Fri, 21 Jul 95 16:20:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18915; Fri, 21 Jul 95 16:16:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18909; Fri, 21 Jul 95 16:16:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZRGk-00038EC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 16:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lemmanp@ohsu.edu (Paul Lemman) Subject: Script to convert /etc/aliases to pine addrbk Date: 21 Jul 1995 22:02:34 GMT Message-Id: <3up85q$4uv@steele.ohsu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Does anyone have a script, Perl preferably, that can convert an /etc/aliases file *including groups* into a Pine addressbook format? TIA. -- Paul Lemman Internet: lemmanp@ohsu.edu Network Analyst Phone: (503) 494-4537 Network Technical Services US Mail: 840 SW Gaines Rd GH113 Oregon Health Sciences University Portland, OR 97201-2985 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 16:23:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25010; Fri, 21 Jul 95 16:23:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18907; Fri, 21 Jul 95 16:16:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18901; Fri, 21 Jul 95 16:16:20 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id XAA16145; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 23:40:15 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA11668; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 23:35:55 GMT Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 23:35:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: Ralf Wenzel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: The '+' in Folder Index In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: 0On Fri, 21 Jul 1995, Ralf Wenzel wrote: >Hi! > >In the Folder Index of some of my mail folders (left behind the Flag 'N' >or 'A' or ...) there are some '+'. > >Who can tell me what the '+' means? I read the Online help but I did not >find it... > >THX for helping me... > > Ralf > The '+' means that the message was sent explicitly to you ie; it was no Cc to other e-mail addresses or even Blind Carbon Copied to other users. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $ $ $ Aladdin Khamis Information Systems Department $ $ Galtronics Ltd. P.O.Box 1589 Tiberias 14115 $ $ Tel: 972-6-732-111 Ext.299 Fax: 972-6-732-037 $ $ $ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 16:26:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25115; Fri, 21 Jul 95 16:26:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18872; Fri, 21 Jul 95 16:21:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18866; Fri, 21 Jul 95 16:21:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZRJM-00038EC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 16:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE (root) Subject: Can send, not receive Date: 21 Jul 1995 17:40:00 GMT Message-Id: <3uoopg$8t2@a3bsrv.nai.net> Status: O X-Status: I just installed Red Hats mothers day version of Linux along with Pine 3.91 and seem to have a problem receiving my mail. I can send out, but not receive. I read the tech sheet & faq, but either I overlooked it or the answers not there. I'm using Sendmail 8.6.9 & DIP with SLIP to access the I-net with. What do I need to do to correct this problem? TIA, Wayne :w From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 17:11:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27201; Fri, 21 Jul 95 17:11:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20158; Fri, 21 Jul 95 17:06:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20152; Fri, 21 Jul 95 17:06:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZS2Z-00038CC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 17:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jong-min@cae.wisc.edu (Jong-Min Park) Subject: Converting mail formats btwn Pegasus Mail, Eudora, mbox? Date: 21 Jul 1995 17:55:22 GMT Message-Id: <3uopma$1jji@news.doit.wisc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Is there a program or a way to convert saved mailbox between Pegasus Mail, Eudora, and mbox format? We have people changing mail clients every once in a while whenever a better server or mail reader comes up. (First they had to use unix elm, then used Mac Popmail, then used Pegasus for netware, and then now wants to use Eudora). They'd like to keep their archived messages and read them from the new mail clients. Other than individually sending each saved message to a new mail server, or saving into regular ascii format, are there any mail format converters? I don't care which platform (DOS/MSWin, MacOS, unix) it runs, as long as it does what we want: A stand-alone application that converts one format/folder to another. +-------- Jong-Min Park -=?B?EUC-KR?udrBvrnO?=-¹ÚÁ¾¹Î----------- | E-mail: jong-min@engr.wisc.edu | Office: (608)-263-7784 266 ME Bldg +-------- University of Wisconsin - Madison From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 18:01:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29046; Fri, 21 Jul 95 18:01:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20514; Fri, 21 Jul 95 17:56:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20508; Fri, 21 Jul 95 17:56:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZSou-00038CC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 17:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "H. Marc Kneppers" Subject: TCP_WRAPPERS, sendmail and Pine Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 13:32:30 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, Has anyone had any experience with the following problem: I've got tcp_wrappers_7.1 installed on a SysVr4 Unix machine that is running an old version of sendmail (4 or 5 - I am upgrading!) and the latest Pine/Imap Mail Utility. Currently, sendmail runs as a daemon: sendmail -bd -q30m I want to monitor the acitivity on port 25, so I entered the following line in inetd.conf: smtp stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/etc/tcpd /usr/local/sbin/sendmail.wrap The program sendmail.wrap does some local things and then executes sendmail as: sendmail -bs So far, so good. Now, if I telnet to port 25, I get the following recorded in syslog <22>Jul 21 11:16:35 1995 PAMCO_UX sendmail.wrap[3108]: connect from PAMCO_UX This is good - as well, internal mail mworks fine as well (within the same host). PROBLEM: My PC-Pine has stopped working. It connects (from a PC) to its mail files on Unix via IMAP and that works fine but when it tries to send a message back it fails. I don't get any record of it connecting to port 25 and I can't send mail. Thanks for any help! Marc Kneppers kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 18:34:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29775; Fri, 21 Jul 95 18:34:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21440; Fri, 21 Jul 95 18:21:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21434; Fri, 21 Jul 95 18:21:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZTFt-00038CC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 18:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chang s l Subject: Bad mail box Date: 21 Jul 1995 19:36:24 GMT Message-Id: <3uovjo$od1@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: We have users reported a pine problem described below. Any idea as to how the null characters were in the message. How would a pine user know there is a problem? How can a pine user get around the problem and see all his messages? Thanks, Shui Chang, sui@ornl.gov ------------------------------------------------------------------- Pine misses some messages which Mail can find. For example, using the same mailbox which contains 488 messages, Pine sees 483 messages while Mail sees them all as shown below in (2)&(3). The last lines of messages #483 and first lines of message #484 are ------- End of Forwarded Message #483 --------- Sandy G UNIX Systems >From daemon Wed Mar 29 20:03:14 1995 #484 Received: from KSV3.PRIV.ORNL.GOV by cos1.priv.ornl.gov (8.6.10/4.03) id PAA13623; Wed, 29 Mar 1995 15:03:13 -0500 Received: from conversion.ornl.gov by KSV3.PRIV.ORNL.GOV (PMDF V4.3-13 #7371) ............................................. However, if the lines are displayed in octal, null characters are proceeded "From....." in #484 as shown below(1). The presence of null characters may be the cause for Pine not seeing anything after that. (1) ======================================================================= 0000000 3 3 0 9 6 c 3 3 0 9 6 lf < sp nul nul 063 063 060 071 066 143 063 063 060 071 066 012 074 040 000 000 0000020 nul nul nul nul nul nul nul nul nul nul nul nul nul nul nul nul 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 * 0003520 nul nul nul nul nul nul nul F r o m sp d a e m 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 106 162 157 155 040 144 141 145 155 0003540 o n sp W e d sp M a r sp 2 9 sp 2 0 157 156 040 127 145 144 040 115 141 162 040 062 071 040 062 060 0003560 : 0 3 : 1 4 sp 1 9 9 5 lf - - - lf 072 060 063 072 061 064 040 061 071 071 065 012 055 055 055 012 0003600 > sp F r o m sp d a e m o n sp W e 076 040 106 162 157 155 040 144 141 145 155 157 156 040 127 145 0003620 d sp M a r sp 2 9 sp 2 0 : 0 3 : 1 144 040 115 141 162 040 062 071 040 062 060 072 060 063 072 061 0003640 4 sp 1 9 9 5 lf 3 3 1 2 3 a 3 3 1 (2) ========================================================================= PINE 3.91 FOLDER INDEX 950329 Msg 483 of 483 A 476 Mar 28 Spangler_HRCS@ (4,101) re: Human Resources Software (fwd) 477 Mar 29 sg@cosmail2.ctd.o (1,309) COS Pool meetings - Apr/May 478 Mar 29 BEG C L (1,691) Uniface patch for Oracle 3.1 driver f 479 Mar 29 RY@Ksv.a1.ornl (1,581) Re: Uniface licenses (fwd) 480 Mar 29 Dave l (992) Meeting 481 Mar 29 Ban L J (1,737) Re: Question concerning C++ on COS3 482 Mar 29 BEICH C L (910) Re: Uniface licenses (fwd) 483 Mar 29 sg@cosmail2.ctd.o (26,429) Proposed '96,'97,'98 GPE [Command "=" not defined for this screen. Use ? for help] ? Help M Main Menu P PrevMsg - PrevPage D Delete R Reply O OTHER CMDS V [ViewMsg] N NextMsg Spc NextPage U Undelete F Forward (3) ========================================================================= Mail [5.2 UCB] [AIX 3.2] Type ? for help. "950329": 488 messages 4 new 5 unread 481 lb@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov Wed Mar 29 16:38 53/1748 "Re: Question concerning C++ o" 482 cb@dusws2.ctd.ornl.gov Wed Mar 29 16:44 23/951 "Re: Uniface licenses (fwd)" 483 sj@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov Wed Mar 29 19:18 150/5705 "Proposed '96,'97,'98 GPE" >N484 sj@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov Wed Mar 29 20:12 115/2994 "Req. for COS3" N485 sj@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov Wed Mar 29 20:12 27/978 "52Y-HKJ09" N486 bq@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov Wed Mar 29 20:20 31/1433 "Joachim Schneibel" N487 sg@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov Wed Mar 29 20:29 61/1555 "Denton's money" U488 trmg@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov Wed Mar 29 21:12 222/11810 "Yellow Alert - Deteriorated" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 19:19:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00888; Fri, 21 Jul 95 19:19:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21502; Fri, 21 Jul 95 19:17:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21496; Fri, 21 Jul 95 19:16:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZU2v-00038CC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 19:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Denise L. Marks" Subject: Re: Pine and EWAN Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 15:12:56 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 10 Jul 1995, David L Miller wrote: > It is not Pine that needs to know about the terminal you are emulating, > but the Unix system you are running Pine on. Check the value of your TERM > environment variable. Either ANSI or VT100 emulation should work with > Pine... > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > VT100 emulation does work with Unix. When I get my `%' prompt after logging in I type: setenv TERM vt100. I've been doing this for several years with no problems. Good luck. Denise From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 20:14:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02002; Fri, 21 Jul 95 20:14:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22957; Fri, 21 Jul 95 20:12:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22951; Fri, 21 Jul 95 20:12:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZUuw-00038CC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 20:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Tompkins Subject: Re: reading usenet news ? how ? Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 22:34:06 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 17 Jul 1995, S. Nguyen wrote: > How do you read news from Pine ? Go to Setup, Configure, then supply the name of the nntp sserver, which is probably somethin like news.xxx.toronto.edu. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 22:11:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01838; Fri, 21 Jul 95 22:11:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23461; Fri, 21 Jul 95 22:07:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23455; Fri, 21 Jul 95 22:07:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZWlz-00038CC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 22:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Francisco Silva Domingues Subject: ispell on pine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 21:29:20 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hello, I am new to this newsgroup so it is possible someone asked this already. Can I configure Pine to use ispell instead of spell?? I am using UNIX pine version 3.89. Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 22:56:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02418; Fri, 21 Jul 95 22:56:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25057; Fri, 21 Jul 95 22:52:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25051; Fri, 21 Jul 95 22:52:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZXQa-00038CC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 22:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Douglas Wing Subject: Pine for newsreading Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 23:34:49 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have just started using pine as my newsreader when I am online. I like the feel of it, especially since it is my mail reader as well. I was wondering though if it is possible to have Pine tell you how many messages are unread in a newsgroup, at least which ones have unread articles. Thanks -- Douglas Wing - Chicago, IL | This message was tested extensively on animals dwing@interaccess.com | and thanks to this terrible but needed testing Compuserve 71341,375 | and is no longer considered dangerous to humans. <<>> The world is coming to an end. Please log off. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 21 23:22:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02830; Fri, 21 Jul 95 23:22:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25347; Fri, 21 Jul 95 23:18:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.bridgeway.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25341; Fri, 21 Jul 95 23:18:01 -0700 Received: from server.bridgeway.com (server.bridgeway.com [204.57.180.3]) by server.bridgeway.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA04637; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 23:18:20 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 23:18:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Le To: Phil Tompkins Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reading usenet news ? how ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Anyone know of any good NNTP server site that anyone could use to read newsgroups using Pine? > > > How do you read news from Pine ? > > Go to Setup, Configure, then supply the name of the nntp sserver, which > is probably somethin like news.xxx.toronto.edu. > > Phil > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 22 05:52:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10082; Sat, 22 Jul 95 05:52:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28040; Sat, 22 Jul 95 05:50:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nice.ncore.soft.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28034; Sat, 22 Jul 95 05:49:58 -0700 Received: from mail.hamburg.netsurf.de by nice with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m0sZnPs-000K6sC; Sat, 22 Jul 95 18:53 EDT Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0sZe0k-000s9XC; Sat, 22 Jul 95 14:50 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Sat, 22 Jul 95 14:44 MESZ Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 14:45:12 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig X-Sender: michaelj@paddington Reply-To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE To: "Raman M." Cc: cac.washington.edu!pine-info@ncore.soft.net Subject: Re: mail headers In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi Raman, Got Setup (from Main-menu) and choose config. There is an entry called "customized-hdrs" Add "Reply-To: raman@ncore.soft.net!agni" or whatever you need. That's all !! Ciao, Michael J. On Fri, 21 Jul 1995, Raman M. wrote: > > pine seems to take the return address (for reply) from the from: > field of the message. This field is likely to be stuffed by pine > when a mail is sent. The problem is have this > > my system (host name agni ) is a node on the mail server (ncore.soft.net) > which is on the internet. agni is not publicly listed, while ncore.soft.net is > So the true address for my system is @ncore.soft.net!agni, while the fully > qualified host name is agni.ncore.soft.net (which is not listed). > When pine generates ( or is it sendmail ?) the from: field it puts the fully qualified > host name e.g raman@agni.ncore.soft.net > > How do i ask pine to make it raman@ncore.soft.net!agni ? > > Alternatively there is a from field in the beginning of the header, which is > correctly inserted by sendmail. Cant pine use this instead ? > or shouldn't it use the Return-Path: field ? > > -----------------------BEGIN HEADER------------------------------------ > >From root@ncore.soft.net!agni Fri Jul 21 13:26:20 1995 > >> > >> the above line gives the correct return address > >> > Return-Path: > >> > >> this is also correct > >> > Received: from agni by nice with smtp > (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m0sZLq8-000K6sC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 13:26 EDT > Received: by agni (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) > id m0sZLNr-0004IcC; Fri, 21 Jul 95 12:57 IST > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 12:57:06 +0100 > From: System Administrator > >> > >> This in not what i need it to be > >> > Subject: hello > > ----------------------END OF HEADER------------------------ > > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > Raman M Email : raman@ncore.soft.net > Ncore Technology Pvt Ltd., > Phone : 91-80-558 0405 Fax : 91-80-558 7690 > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE Tel. (040) 651 56 25 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 22 08:26:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12645; Sat, 22 Jul 95 08:26:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01980; Sat, 22 Jul 95 08:18:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01974; Sat, 22 Jul 95 08:18:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZgIy-00038CC; Sat, 22 Jul 95 08:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nsheth@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu (Nischal Sheth) Subject: Format of quote line when replying to mail Message-Id: Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 09:08:18 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is there any way to customize the format of the quote line when replying to mail? Instead of getting a quote like: On Thu, 20 Jul 1995, XXXX YYYY wrote: I would like to construct a quote line based on several fields in the header of the message I am replying to. If not, this can be probably added to a wish list... TIA, Nischal. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 22 15:08:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18953; Sat, 22 Jul 95 15:08:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03626; Sat, 22 Jul 95 15:04:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03620; Sat, 22 Jul 95 15:04:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZmaZ-00038CC; Sat, 22 Jul 95 15:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Monty Fuller Subject: Mail Forwarding Date: 22 Jul 1995 21:46:48 GMT Message-Id: <3urrk8$j3b@newton.uncg.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I have two accounts- one on a VMS VAx and the other on Solaris Unix. Could someone tell me how I can have my mail forwarded from the VAX automatically to my UNIX account? Thanks for the help. Monty Fuller From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 22 21:19:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24188; Sat, 22 Jul 95 21:19:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11076; Sat, 22 Jul 95 21:15:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11070; Sat, 22 Jul 95 21:15:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZsQo-00038EC; Sat, 22 Jul 95 21:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lcornel@cello.gina.calstate.edu (Louis Cornelio) Subject: easy .sig solution Date: 22 Jul 1995 21:09:53 -0700 Message-Id: <3usi2h$djm@cello.gina.calstate.edu> Status: O X-Status: To all who try to work out tricks, what about the easy way? I have 8-10 files I use as sigs, depending on who/where I'm writing. I just read the the appropriate file w/ ^R. Is that too easy? :-) ______________________________________________________________________ Louis Cornelio "If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt." lcornel@cello.gina.calstate.edu - Dean Martin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 23 01:50:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29479; Sun, 23 Jul 95 01:50:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10283; Sun, 23 Jul 95 01:45:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10277; Sun, 23 Jul 95 01:45:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sZwRF-00038LC; Sun, 23 Jul 95 01:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: plonus@linux.rz.fh-hannover.de (Uwe Plonus) Subject: Filters to Pine, possible? Date: 23 Jul 1995 07:45:33 GMT Message-Id: <3usumt$3cr@linux.rz.fh-hannover.de> Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to filter your post with PINE? I want to prevent to get post, which I want not to get. Some tip were fine. Uwe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 23 05:48:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03967; Sun, 23 Jul 95 05:48:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17357; Sun, 23 Jul 95 05:46:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from osf1.gmu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17351; Sun, 23 Jul 95 05:46:07 -0700 Received: by osf1.gmu.edu; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/07Sep94-1001AM/GMUv1) id AA32527; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 08:46:06 -0400 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 08:46:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Tony Lee To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: The Pine FAQ information you requested (last changed Jan 13 1995) (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 12:30:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Tony Lee To: pine-faq-DocServer@docserver.cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: The Pine FAQ information you requested (last changed Jan 13 1995) hi. i've just recently got my account, and pine. i've had experience with netscape and mosiac and ftp but have not used pine. so. i'm trying to do this. i'm calling from my house into George Mason University and then accessing pine there. how do you save a message for instance onto my hard drive at home. also when i ftp to nevada.edu for instance and get a file, how do i specify it so that it goes to my hard drive or if it goes to my folder, how do i specify it to go to a different folder besides incoming to let's say, "guitarIN" well thanx. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 23 11:35:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09070; Sun, 23 Jul 95 11:35:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15910; Sun, 23 Jul 95 11:32:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15903; Sun, 23 Jul 95 11:32:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sa5ln-00038RC; Sun, 23 Jul 95 11:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Clark Subject: Conversion from VMS Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 13:20:07 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi I have modified the vmsmail.awk program file that was posted to this group several weeks ago. It converts VMS mail files to a format understood by Pine (and I guess other Unix mail programs). The changes that I remember making were: (a) using /pattern/ to identify L ($1== didn't seem to work for me), (b) modifying the From conversion to take into consideration extra information in this field by including an index variable in the field identifier (e.g., inclusion of auxiliary name field, hundredths of seconds in time field), and (c) getting rid of the IN% and quotes from the name. To use the program, 1. EXTRACT this file as mail.awk or somesuch and edit out all put the program lines 2. "EXTRACT /ALL oldmail.mai" in the Vax mail program; note number of messages to check conversion 3. copy oldmail.mai from Vax to Unix (I used ftp) 4. type "awk -f mail.awk oldmail.mai > ~/mail/oldmail" 5. enter Pine and select the oldmail folder. Index should show same number of messages as original, or approximately so. Should see correct date, sender, and subject information. I've seen a few errors in converting 100s of messages, but nothing major that I noticed. If I've overlooked serious problem or way to improve program, I would appreciate hearing about it. Thanks to the anonymous person who first wrote the awk program. Take care Jim **************************************************************************** James M. Clark (204) 786-9313 Department of Psychology (204) 786-1824 Fax University of Winnipeg clark@uwinnipeg.ca Winnipeg, Manitoba R3B 2E9 4L02A CANADA **************************************************************************** --------vmsmail.awk---------- # awk program to reformat VMS mail header for Unix mail BEGIN { sun = 0; dname[sun] = "Sun" mon = 1; dname[mon] = "Mon" tue = 2; dname[tue] = "Tue" wed = 3; dname[wed] = "Wed" thu = 4; dname[thu] = "Thu" fri = 5; dname[fri] = "Fri" sat = 6; dname[sat] = "Sat" mname["JAN"] = "Jan"; firstof["Jan"] = sun mname["FEB"] = "Feb"; firstof["Feb"] = wed mname["MAR"] = "Mar"; firstof["Mar"] = wed mname["APR"] = "Apr"; firstof["Apr"] = sat mname["MAY"] = "May"; firstof["May"] = mon mname["JUN"] = "Jun"; firstof["Jun"] = thu mname["JUL"] = "Jul"; firstof["Jul"] = sat mname["AUG"] = "Aug"; firstof["Aug"] = tue mname["SEP"] = "Sep"; firstof["Sep"] = fri mname["OCT"] = "Oct"; firstof["Oct"] = sun mname["NOV"] = "Nov"; firstof["Nov"] = wed mname["DEC"] = "Dec"; firstof["Dec"] = fri } / / { pagesep = 1; next } # delay formfeeds $1 == "From:" { if (!pagesep) # not a new mail header {print; next } if (NR>3) print "" # substitute blank line for formfeed pagesep = 0; newmsg = 1 # unread mail has final asterisk in VMS and Status: RO in Unix status = "Status: RO" if (substr($0,length($0),1) == "*") status = "" # reformat date/time from DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM to Day Mmm DD HH:MM:00 YYYY i = 0 if (NF > 4) i = NF - 4 if (status == "") i = i-1 dash = index($(3+i), "-") date = substr($(3+i), 1, dash - 1) month = substr($(3+i), dash + 1, 3); month = mname[month] year = substr($(3+i), dash + 5, 4) # find day-of-week (baseline = Jan 1, 1972, a Saturday) y = year - 1972 leapdays = int(y/4) - int(y/100) + int(y/400) + 1 d = y + leapdays + firstof[month] + date - 1 + sat if ((year % 4) == 0 || (year % 400) == 0) if (month == "Jan" || month == "Feb") --d # adjust for date in Jan/Feb of a leap year if (date < 10) date = " " date # truncate time time = $(4+i) if (index($(4+i), ".") > 0) time = substr($(4+i),1,index($(4+i),".")-1) # modify address from = substr($2, 5, length($2)-5) print "From", from, dname[d % 7], month, date, time , year print "From: " from print "Date: " dname[d % 7], month, date, year, time next } $1 == "Subj:" {print "Subject: ", substr($0, 7, length($0)-6) # "Status" after "Subj" if (newmsg = 1) {print status; newmsg = 0 } next } { # ordinary line print $0 if (pagesep = 1 && newmsg = 0) {pagesep = 0; print " " } next} From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 23 15:11:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11934; Sun, 23 Jul 95 15:11:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17893; Sun, 23 Jul 95 15:06:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ucsu.Colorado.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17887; Sun, 23 Jul 95 15:06:40 -0700 Received: (from tvelasco@localhost) by ucsu.colorado.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12/CNS-3.6) id QAA14627; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 16:06:38 -0600 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 16:06:38 -0600 (MDT) From: VELASCO ARNEZ TITO To: Pine-info Subject: How to send an ASCII file ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi there, I want to attach an ASCII Text files to my e-mail message. I have tried with kermit, but I couldn't get (retrieve) the ASCII Text file from my floppy disk (a:\). Any suggestions ? Thanks. Tito. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 23 19:49:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15739; Sun, 23 Jul 95 19:49:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27132; Sun, 23 Jul 95 19:46:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailer.pennet.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27126; Sun, 23 Jul 95 19:46:36 -0700 Received: from pennet.com by mailer.pennet.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #64) id m0saDW6-0000X6C; Sun, 23 Jul 95 22:45 EDT Message-Id: Received: from MHS by pennet.com with MHS id BGCJAMFJ ; Sun, 23 Jul 1995 22:41:28 EST Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 22:41:12 +0500 From: crbaugh@pennet.com Subject: Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Wg-Gmid: -1981904760/115580 X-Wg-Thrid: 164198675 X-Wg-Rplto: 0/0 Status: O X-Status: We have been using pine for about 6 months with no problems. Recently we began to get an error message when posting to newsgroups. It is: Error posting message: 441 435 Bad message-ID Can anyone provide some info as to what the cause of these error messages mean? Thanks in advance! Chuck From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 00:38:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20214; Mon, 24 Jul 95 00:38:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00771; Mon, 24 Jul 95 00:33:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00765; Mon, 24 Jul 95 00:33:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0saHxs-00038TC; Mon, 24 Jul 95 00:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: koonteck@merlion.singnet.com.sg (Chua Koon Teck) Subject: Folder invalidated error (consult expert) Date: 24 Jul 1995 07:30:19 GMT Message-Id: <3uvi6b$u29@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Status: O X-Status: Hi I have users who dialin to my system and uses pine3.89 to read mail. Recently, I am having users who encounter the error "Folder invalidated error (consult expert)". I discover that this is due to a hidden character in the first position of the user's inbox file. I uses vi editor to delete off this hidden character and the problem is solved. How did such hidden (invisible) character get into the user's inbox which pine is not able to read ? Appreciate if reply be mail to me. Thank you. Have a nice day. Regards Chua Koon Teck koonteck@singnet.com.sg SingNet URL="http://www.singnet.com.sg/" Singapore Telecom From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 01:02:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20758; Mon, 24 Jul 95 01:02:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23708; Mon, 24 Jul 95 00:59:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23702; Mon, 24 Jul 95 00:58:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0saIM5-00038UC; Mon, 24 Jul 95 00:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: koonteck@merlion.singnet.com.sg (Chua Koon Teck) Subject: imap-4 Date: 24 Jul 1995 07:56:56 GMT Message-Id: <3uvjo8$u29@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Status: O X-Status: Hi I have downloaded the imap-4.ALPHA.tar.Z from ftp.cac.washington.edu, but the file has corrupted input. Has anyone installed this latest imap ? What is the difference between this imap-4 and the older version ? Appreciate if reply be email to me. Thank you. Have a nice day. Regards Chua Koon Teck koonteck@singnet.com.sg SingNet URL="http://www.singnet.com.sg/" Singapore Telecom From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 01:28:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21325; Mon, 24 Jul 95 01:28:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01389; Mon, 24 Jul 95 01:20:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01383; Mon, 24 Jul 95 01:20:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0saIfS-00038UC; Mon, 24 Jul 95 01:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Petter Blomberg Subject: Pine delets .newsrc Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 10:14:51 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, My Pine seems to delete my .newrc-file in some special situations. Is there anyone else with this problem? I think it happens sometimes when i chose "eXpunge". Regards, Petter Blomberg ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Petter Blomberg /"""\ Tel: +46 (0) 12 28 4630 qrablog@lmera.ericsson.se (-@^@-) ECN: 868 4630 ____ ____ ____ ____ o00_( )_00o ____ Home: +46 (0) 13 21 02 36 ( _ \( __)(_ _)(_ _)( __)( _ \ ( _ \ ) __/ ) _) )( )( ) _) ) / ) _ Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21656; Mon, 24 Jul 95 01:32:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24072; Mon, 24 Jul 95 01:24:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24066; Mon, 24 Jul 95 01:24:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0saIls-00038UC; Mon, 24 Jul 95 01:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) Subject: Re: mail headers Date: 24 Jul 1995 04:47:56 GMT Message-Id: <3uv8ls$502@news.orst.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Raman M. wrote: >my system (host name agni ) is a node on the mail server (ncore.soft.net) >which is on the internet. agni is not publicly listed, while ncore.soft.net is >So the true address for my system is @ncore.soft.net!agni, while the fully No, your true address cannot be what you show. It is an illegal address. >How do i ask pine to make it raman@ncore.soft.net!agni ? You don't want to. >>From root@ncore.soft.net!agni Fri Jul 21 13:26:20 1995 > >> > >> the above line gives the correct return address > >> The address in this header should be the same as in the Return-Path: header, since this is where the Return-Path: comes from. But, this is a bogus address. If sendmail is creating it, then senmail is wrong. Are you trying to get mail to agni, or just to nice.ncore.soft.net? How is mail supposed to get from nice to agni if the former? UUCP? If so, you want agni!root@ncore.soft.net. Or maybe root%agni@ncore... You do NOT want that abomination root@a!b. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 03:01:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23053; Mon, 24 Jul 95 03:01:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02590; Mon, 24 Jul 95 02:58:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02584; Mon, 24 Jul 95 02:58:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0saKAt-00038ZC; Mon, 24 Jul 95 02:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jennifer@cc.cc.nccu.edu.tw (Jennifer Chen) Subject: incoming-folders Date: 24 Jul 1995 09:31:29 GMT Message-Id: <3uvp9h$n5u@server2.nccu.edu.tw> Status: O X-Status: It's said Pine has special function like this: the user can create folder to receive mail from specified person or specified subject. Is this true? or how can i configure my pine system to do this? Thanks for anyone's response. Jennifer Chen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 03:17:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23450; Mon, 24 Jul 95 03:17:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25127; Mon, 24 Jul 95 03:13:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25121; Mon, 24 Jul 95 03:13:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0saKR0-00038aC; Mon, 24 Jul 95 03:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: PINE V3.91 and VMS Question(s) Message-Id: <173E5A6AES86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 10:51:08 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article jwwhatley writes: >I have Yehavi's version of the VMS port running on our VAX systems under >VMS V6.1. I built Pine with NETLIB and everything in general is working >fine. I'm not sure whether you spotted my notes at http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7Eflavell/vms-pine.html >(1) As documented by Yehavi, the "default-fcc" field must be set to "" in >the configuration field. We hope someone has or that Yehavi eventually >will get this functionality in the VMS port. Anyone done this? You'll note that VMS Mail itself uses the technique of sending a copy of the mail to the sender. They don't try to create a file copy directly. I just followed their example, and configured PINE with a Bcc: to send a copy to myself. >(3) When in a newsgroup (such as this one), I delete posts I have read or >are no longer interested in. But, they always reappear when I go back >into the newsgroup Index (even a few days later). I understand that Pine >handles news in the mail paradigm where the post is not really deleted, >but is supposed to be "marked" I can only agree with you that it doesn't seem to work. However, we were already happy users of the (Madison?) NEWSRDR on VMS, and saw no advantage in moving to PINE as our newsrdr. Our interest in PINE for VMS was specifically in handling incoming MIME-format mail; but it also has the advantage of working as a mail _client_ that can run on VMS and read remote mail folders on, for example, unix systems. best regards --- http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7Eflavell/ Alan Flavell, H.E.P Group, Glasgow University, Scotland CERN is not my employer: I am not posting on behalf of either, but in a personal capacity only. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 05:17:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26070; Mon, 24 Jul 95 05:17:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26448; Mon, 24 Jul 95 05:13:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26436; Mon, 24 Jul 95 05:13:26 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id OAA20344 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:41:13 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA07880; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:19:51 GMT Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:19:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: TCSH In-Reply-To: <3uvjo8$u29@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have tcsh version 6.00.03. What is the latest version, and where can I get it? Thanks $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $ $ $ Aladdin Khamis Information Systems Department $ $ Galtronics Ltd. P.O.Box 1589 Tiberias 14115 $ $ Tel: 972-6-732-111 Ext.299 Fax: 972-6-732-037 $ $ $ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 05:45:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26629; Mon, 24 Jul 95 05:45:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04725; Mon, 24 Jul 95 05:40:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04719; Mon, 24 Jul 95 05:40:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0saMjL-00038aC; Mon, 24 Jul 95 05:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Monty Fuller Date: 24 Jul 1995 12:28:32 GMT Message-Id: Control: cancel <3urrk8$j3b@newton.uncg.edu> Subject: cmsg cancel <3urrk8$j3b@newton.uncg.edu> Status: O X-Status: EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19950724.01 for further details From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 09:24:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03209; Mon, 24 Jul 95 09:24:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00245; Mon, 24 Jul 95 09:16:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00239; Mon, 24 Jul 95 09:16:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0saQ0e-00038UC; Mon, 24 Jul 95 09:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: titanide@micro.org (Patrick O'Connell) Subject: Want to set reverse-arrival sort-key in 2.89 .pinerc file Date: 24 Jul 1995 09:30:05 -0400 Message-Id: <3v078t$okk@amoeba.micro.org> Status: O X-Status: Is this possible? Thanx Pat O'Connell From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 10:48:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07680; Mon, 24 Jul 95 10:48:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11296; Mon, 24 Jul 95 10:41:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11290; Mon, 24 Jul 95 10:41:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0saRTE-00038EC; Mon, 24 Jul 95 10:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nai.net@nai.net (Wayne Adams) Subject: Not receiving mail Date: 24 Jul 1995 16:31:39 GMT Message-Id: <3v0htb$ko2@a3bsrv.nai.net> Status: O X-Status: I've just installed Red Hat's mothers day linux program and it included Pine 3.91. I check it out and can't receive mail, but I can send it. I'm using Linux with kernel 1.2.8 and sendmail 8.6.9. I use DIP to access the Internet via SLIP. What do I need to do to correct this? Thanks, Wayne From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 11:23:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09641; Mon, 24 Jul 95 11:23:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03428; Mon, 24 Jul 95 11:20:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03422; Mon, 24 Jul 95 11:20:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0saS3A-00038EC; Mon, 24 Jul 95 11:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: valko@case.cyberspace.com (Jack Valko) Subject: pine and inews Date: 24 Jul 1995 10:56:02 -0700 Message-Id: <3v0mri$at8@case.cyberspace.com> Status: O X-Status: I'm running pine3.91 and I was wondering if it was possible to configure pine so that it uses inews to post news articles. I've hacked inews to not deliver news from 'restricted' users and I would like to extend this to the pine newsreader/poster as well. ================================================== Jack Valko | - Cyberspace - System Administrator | 300 Queen Anne Ave. N. #396 cyberspace.com | Seattle, WA 98109-4599 cyberspace.net | (206) 505-5577 ================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 12:01:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11343; Mon, 24 Jul 95 12:01:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04022; Mon, 24 Jul 95 11:45:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04016; Mon, 24 Jul 95 11:45:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0saSQO-00038EC; Mon, 24 Jul 95 11:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Thomas Olsson Subject: Q: Filter function in Pine.... Date: 24 Jul 1995 18:06:45 GMT Message-Id: <3v0nfm$c8m@bs33n.staffs.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hello People, Is there anyone out there that has figured out a nice and easy way to filter the mail coming in ? I'm currently subscribed to a number of mailing lists, and the mails for these I manually route into folders today. I also posted here a while ago asking if anyone had figured out a nice and easy way to use PGP with Pine, this really only applies to outgoing mails. Cheers, -- Thomas Olsson, Researcher http://www.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~cmrdto Staffordshire University Mailto:D.T.Olsson@soc.staffs.ac.uk ** The moon is smaller then the earth, but further away ** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 12:41:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13361; Mon, 24 Jul 95 12:41:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04854; Mon, 24 Jul 95 12:21:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04848; Mon, 24 Jul 95 12:21:42 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA07566; Mon, 24 Jul 95 15:21:36 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA18398; Mon, 24 Jul 95 15:21:33 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14143; Mon, 24 Jul 95 15:21:33 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 15:21:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help: connect to imapd is slow Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: When I set my inbox to be on a remote IMAP server, it takes about 30 seconds to get prompted for my password. This seemed kind of long so I tried it with mtest which is the c-client test program. It still took 30 seconds. Then I tried a telnet to port 143 and that is immediate. Is this delay normal when you first start up pine. I have pine 3.91 on HP-UX 9.01 series 715. The imapd is running on hpux 9.01 also on a 730. Any help would be appreciated as I could not find the answer in the FAQ or anywhere else. | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 12:53:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13800; Mon, 24 Jul 95 12:53:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14518; Mon, 24 Jul 95 12:45:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14512; Mon, 24 Jul 95 12:45:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0saTOT-00038CC; Mon, 24 Jul 95 12:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shelley@NTPSERVER (Shelley A Waltz) Subject: Mailbox format invalidated Message-Id: Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:31:43 GMT Status: O X-Status: In using a shared account, accessed by three persons, all using pine, occasionally I get "Mailbox format invalidated(consult expert). Is there something special to do for a shared rw mailbox? I *do not* want to use IMAP. I am running UNIX. Is there a way to rescan the inbox? thanks, shelley From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 13:50:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16641; Mon, 24 Jul 95 13:50:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06591; Mon, 24 Jul 95 13:38:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06583; Mon, 24 Jul 95 13:38:29 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00925; Mon, 24 Jul 95 13:38:21 -0700 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:38:17 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "John R. Violette" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help: connect to imapd is slow In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: By default, Pine and mtest first try to open a pre-authenticated rimap connection to the server. It sounds like rsh is timing out, then you get the port 143 connection. To skip rsh and go straight to port 143, specify ":143" after the host name, e.g. {imapserver:143}INBOX |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, John R. Violette wrote: > Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 15:21:33 -0400 (EDT) > From: John R. Violette > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Help: connect to imapd is slow > > When I set my inbox to be on a remote IMAP server, it takes > about 30 seconds to get prompted for my password. This seemed kind > of long so I tried it with mtest which is the c-client test > program. It still took 30 seconds. Then I tried a telnet to port > 143 and that is immediate. Is this delay normal when you first > start up pine. > > I have pine 3.91 on HP-UX 9.01 series 715. The imapd is running > on hpux 9.01 also on a 730. Any help would be appreciated as I > could not find the answer in the FAQ or anywhere else. > > | John R. Violette | Software Development | > | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | > | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 14:05:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17213; Mon, 24 Jul 95 14:05:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06967; Mon, 24 Jul 95 14:00:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06961; Mon, 24 Jul 95 14:00:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0saUZF-00038CC; Mon, 24 Jul 95 13:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alex@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu (Alex Shrom) Subject: adding a reply-to or return-address field Date: 24 Jul 1995 18:20:32 GMT Message-Id: <3v0o9g$bpu@netnews.upenn.edu> Status: O X-Status: I use POP to get my mail off the campus mailer and use Pine to read it on my personal computer which is not on 24-7. How do I set my campus email address to be the reply-to, follow-up to, or whatever, field? -- Alex Shrom alex@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu | Linux ajshrom@phoenix.princeton.edu | Linux http://ajshrom.student.princeton.edu | Linux ... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 14:36:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18468; Mon, 24 Jul 95 14:36:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07465; Mon, 24 Jul 95 14:29:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07457; Mon, 24 Jul 95 14:29:26 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0saV4T-000s9JC; Mon, 24 Jul 95 23:29 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Mon, 24 Jul 95 23:27 MESZ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 23:28:20 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig X-Sender: michaelj@paddington Reply-To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE To: Alex Shrom Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: adding a reply-to or return-address field In-Reply-To: <3v0o9g$bpu@netnews.upenn.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: That's simple! Got Setup, choose Config and find the entry "customized-hdrs" and Add "Reply-To: " Ciao, Michael Joswig On 24 Jul 1995, Alex Shrom wrote: > I use POP to get my mail off the campus mailer and use Pine to read > it on my personal computer which is not on 24-7. How do I set my > campus email address to be the reply-to, follow-up to, or whatever, > field? > -- > > Alex Shrom alex@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu | Linux > ajshrom@phoenix.princeton.edu | Linux > http://ajshrom.student.princeton.edu | Linux ... > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 17:06:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25041; Mon, 24 Jul 95 17:06:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20464; Mon, 24 Jul 95 17:00:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20458; Mon, 24 Jul 95 17:00:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0saXQC-00038CC; Mon, 24 Jul 95 17:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josh@yarbus.dgbt.doc.ca (Joshua Richmond) Subject: Q: BinHex - whato do with it Message-Id: <1995Jul24.195951.25228@dgbt.doc.ca> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 95 19:59:51 GMT Status: O X-Status: I just received two messages that have multiple attatchments. The one attachment is always in a 'BinHex' format. Could anyone tell me how to convert these attachments into legible files? Thank you very much Josh -- Josh Richmond The opinions expressed are strictly my own. Systems Design Engineering University Of Waterloo Communications Research Centre, Ottawa jlrichmo@zeus.uwaterloo.ca josh@yarbus.dgbt.doc.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 18:00:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27243; Mon, 24 Jul 95 18:00:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11682; Mon, 24 Jul 95 17:57:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11676; Mon, 24 Jul 95 17:57:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0saYGA-00038CC; Mon, 24 Jul 95 17:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jpyne@midland.co.nz (Jonathan Pyne) Subject: Automatic login for Pine Date: 24 Jul 1995 23:44:46 GMT Message-Id: <3v1b9e$d5m@news.midland.co.nz> Status: O X-Status: I am currently using Pine under Unix to log on to another Unix machine on our network to collect mail. The other machine is running as a IMAP server. It there any way to automatically send the username and password in the similiar way as an 'rlogin' so Pine doesn't have to prompt you for this? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jonathan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 18:41:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28293; Mon, 24 Jul 95 18:41:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22257; Mon, 24 Jul 95 18:36:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22251; Mon, 24 Jul 95 18:36:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0saYtU-00038EC; Mon, 24 Jul 95 18:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hshane@neda.com (Hugh Shane) Subject: HELP: Building PC-Pine for Windows Date: 24 Jul 1995 20:57:36 GMT Message-Id: <3v11g0$2pq@majnoon.neda.com> Status: O X-Status: I'm attempting to build PC-Pine 3.91 for Windows and could use some help from anyone out there who has done this successfully. I'm trying to get this to work with FTP Software's Winsock. I've actually managed to get a clean compile. However, when I attempt to run the thing, it just up and dies with no explanation, other than a Windows error. Thanks, Hugh Shane Consulting Engineer Neda Communications, Inc. hshane@neda.com 206 644 8026 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 19:38:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29800; Mon, 24 Jul 95 19:38:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12949; Mon, 24 Jul 95 19:34:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dub-img-4.compuserve.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12943; Mon, 24 Jul 95 19:34:30 -0700 Received: by dub-img-4.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id WAA18034; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 22:34:29 -0400 Date: 24 Jul 95 22:23:13 EDT From: "Kevin D. Litz" <73643.421@compuserve.com> To: All Subject: Fkeys in pine Message-Id: <950725022313_73643.421_DHR94-1@CompuServe.COM> Status: O X-Status: We have retrieved pine from the internet, and successfully compiled the program for SCO Unix. Our problem is this: We are unable to make the function keys work, and our users want to use them. Yes, this seems trivial to me, but they want it anyway. The function keys work in various curses applications, but are not working in Pine. Ex: TERMINFO Function key 01 = \E[19~ Pine gets the escape and the left bracket, but the rest is sent to the screen. Any suggestions or assistance would be greatly appreciated. Please reply to 73643.421@compuserve.com or rwelsh@aol.com Thanks in advance. Kevin Litz From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 24 19:54:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00133; Mon, 24 Jul 95 19:54:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13170; Mon, 24 Jul 95 19:51:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13164; Mon, 24 Jul 95 19:51:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0saa3K-00038CC; Mon, 24 Jul 95 19:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Mailbox format invalidated Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:23:48 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, Shelley A Waltz wrote: > In using a shared account, accessed by three persons, all using pine, > occasionally I get "Mailbox format invalidated(consult expert). You can't have an mbox format folder open simultaneously read/write by multiple users. What happens is that when Pine detects that the folder's size has changed, but that the new size is either smaller than before, or is larger but the new data doesn't immediately begin with a start-of-message header. That means that something other than that particular Pine process or sendmail rewrote the folder. Pine has no idea what that other program (even another Pine) did; it no longer knows where the messages are. Pine is supposed to have locking to prevent this from happening (this is why that locking is there!!), although this locking may have been diabled and/or sabotaged by NFS at your local site. > Is there something special to do for a shared rw mailbox? The only way is to use an alternate format which permits multiple simultaneous access, such as tenex or mh. Read the Pine Technical notes for more details on tenex format. In tenex format, you can do all read/write operations *except* for expunging deleting messages (expunge requires exclusive access). > I *do not* > want to use IMAP. I am running UNIX. IMAP won't help you in this case anyway, unless NFS if between you and the disk where the folder resides. If so, then you *must* use IMAP (or log onto the system which has that disk) since tenex format access will *NOT* work well over NFS. Contrary to popular belief, NFS does not fully implement Unix filesystem semantics. Multiple sharing with NFS involved doesn't work. > Is there a way to rescan the inbox? Unfortunately, the only way is what you've already discovered; quit and restart Pine. That's pretty much the same as what any command to "rescan the inbox" would have to do. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 00:40:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05896; Tue, 25 Jul 95 00:40:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27193; Tue, 25 Jul 95 00:31:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27187; Tue, 25 Jul 95 00:31:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0saeQC-00038CC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 00:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "David J. Bakeman" Subject: Help with subscribe Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 00:29:02 GMT Status: O X-Status: I'd like to subscribe to all of the groups selected by a a(subscribe) ^T(all matching). Is there a way to do this? ------------------- David J. Bakeman dbakeman@eskimo.com Seattle, WA 98103 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 01:14:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06748; Tue, 25 Jul 95 01:14:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16927; Tue, 25 Jul 95 01:10:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16913; Tue, 25 Jul 95 01:10:21 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:09:34 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA13245; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:12:41 +0100 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:12:41 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Joshua Richmond Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: BinHex - whato do with it In-Reply-To: <1995Jul24.195951.25228@dgbt.doc.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: "BinHex" is a binary-to-text encoding for Apple Macintosh files. So your easiest route is to save the attachment to a file, take it to an Apple Macintosh and feed it to an unpacking program such as "StuffIt Expander". There are also deBinHexers available for DOS and UNIX, but you may well find that the deBinHex'd file is a compressed archive (eg, a StuffIt archive) that needs further processing. StuffIt Expander will do it all. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, Joshua Richmond wrote: > I just received two messages that have multiple attatchments. The one > attachment is always in a 'BinHex' format. Could anyone tell me how to > convert these attachments into legible files? > > Thank you very much > Josh > > -- > Josh Richmond The opinions expressed are strictly my own. > Systems Design Engineering > University Of Waterloo Communications Research Centre, Ottawa > jlrichmo@zeus.uwaterloo.ca josh@yarbus.dgbt.doc.ca > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 01:20:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06852; Tue, 25 Jul 95 01:20:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16968; Tue, 25 Jul 95 01:13:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16962; Tue, 25 Jul 95 01:13:46 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:12:42 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA13380; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:15:55 +0100 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:15:54 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Jonathan Pyne Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Automatic login for Pine In-Reply-To: <3v1b9e$d5m@news.midland.co.nz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Before Pine prompts you to enter a username and password it first tries to use the "rsh" mechanism to fire up the /etc/rimapd program. If successful a pre-authenticated session is started (validated because of the rsh used to start it up). So on the IMAP server machine simply make /etc/rimapd a symbolic link pointing at the real IMAP daemon program. Obviously you'll also need to be able to rsh to the host, so may need to set up a .rhosts file (per user) or a global hosts.equiv file to allow rsh type access to the server machine. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 24 Jul 1995, Jonathan Pyne wrote: > I am currently using Pine under Unix to log on to another Unix machine on > our network to collect mail. The other machine is running as a IMAP > server. > It there any way to automatically send the username and password in the > similiar way as an 'rlogin' so Pine doesn't have to prompt you for this? > Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks > Jonathan > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 03:10:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08948; Tue, 25 Jul 95 03:10:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29131; Tue, 25 Jul 95 03:02:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29125; Tue, 25 Jul 95 03:02:28 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id ab16045; 25 Jul 95 10:50 +0100 Received: from mirror.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa26493; 25 Jul 95 10:50 +0100 Received: by mirror.demon.co.uk (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sagaX-00037AC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:47 BST Message-Id: From: Jonathan Allen Subject: Help with printing ... To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:47:45 +0200 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 387 Status: O X-Status: Hi, On a machine I have recently installed Pine on (3.89, BTW), I cannot see how to make Pine print directly into the spool queue - it only seems to print the message again to the terminal. The configuration is: Linux 1.2.11, Pine 3.89, smail 3.28 I'm sure this is a simple question, to which the answer is totally obvious, but I'm not sure where to look. Can you help ? Jonathan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 05:38:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12397; Tue, 25 Jul 95 05:38:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19656; Tue, 25 Jul 95 05:26:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from operatns.mohawkc.on.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19650; Tue, 25 Jul 95 05:26:51 -0700 Received: by Operatns.mohawkc.on.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA14026; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 08:21:26 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 08:21:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "P. Fisher" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Was I Kicked Off? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I've received no messages for almost a week now. Is there a problem or have I been unsubscribed? I'd like to re-subscribe thanks... Pat Fisher fisherp@operatns.mohawkc.on.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 06:00:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12775; Tue, 25 Jul 95 06:00:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19888; Tue, 25 Jul 95 05:47:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19882; Tue, 25 Jul 95 05:47:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sajMk-00038EC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 05:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: news@dsec.dsec.cow.melco.co.jp Date: 25 Jul 1995 12:16:15 JST Subject: cmsg newgroup comp.mail.pine Control: newgroup comp.mail.pine Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: For your newsgroups file: comp.mail.pine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 06:15:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13092; Tue, 25 Jul 95 06:15:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20079; Tue, 25 Jul 95 06:05:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from marvin.dgbt.doc.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20073; Tue, 25 Jul 95 06:05:05 -0700 Received: from yarbus.dgbt.doc.ca by marvin.dgbt.doc.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10358; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:04:59 EDT Received: by yarbus.dgbt.doc.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01537; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:06:33 EDT Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:06:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Richmond Subject: Re: Q: BinHex - whato do with it To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > "BinHex" is a binary-to-text encoding for Apple Macintosh files. So your > easiest route is to save the attachment to a file, take it to an Apple > Macintosh and feed it to an unpacking program such as "StuffIt Expander". > > There are also deBinHexers available for DOS and UNIX, but you may well > find that the deBinHex'd file is a compressed archive (eg, a StuffIt > archive) that needs further processing. StuffIt Expander will do it all. > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > Thank you very much for the information. I'll see if I can find a Mac, or a Unix 'deBinHex'er. Josh --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Josh Richmond Communications Research Centre Tel:(613) 998-2681 3701 Carling Avenue, Fax:(613) 990-6488 Ottawa, Ontario, Email: josh@yarbus.dgbt.doc.ca K2H 8S2 CANADA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 06:53:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13912; Tue, 25 Jul 95 06:53:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02163; Tue, 25 Jul 95 06:43:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02155; Tue, 25 Jul 95 06:43:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sakFg-00038CC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 06:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: L.Melgoza@mep-d.org (Luis Melgoza) Subject: Re: Converting mail formats btwn Pegasus Mail, Eudora, mbox? Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 02:21:53 -0500 Message-Id: References: <3uopma$1jji@news.doit.wisc.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3uopma$1jji@news.doit.wisc.edu>, jong-min@cae.wisc.edu (Jong-Min Park) wrote: > Is there a program or a way to convert saved mailbox between > Pegasus Mail, Eudora, and mbox format? There is no need to convert from mbox to Eudora, as the mbox is a plain text file readable by Eudora and viceversa; I'm not familiar with Pegasus file structure, but you may want to try MailConvert (available at your nearest info-mac). [courtesy cc sent to questioner] -- Luis Melgoza From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 07:50:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15032; Tue, 25 Jul 95 07:50:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21019; Tue, 25 Jul 95 07:28:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21007; Tue, 25 Jul 95 07:27:54 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA23693; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:27:06 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA05576; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:26:41 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03754; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:26:41 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:26:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help: connect to imapd is slow In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Yes, this was exactly the case. We don't use rsh because of security. It wasn't documented that you could use the port number in the specification for a remote folder or that it would take longer if you weren't using rsh. Specifying the port made the password prompt come up immediately. Thanks alot; this is much more bearable. On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > By default, Pine and mtest first try to open a pre-authenticated rimap > connection to the server. It sounds like rsh is timing out, then you get > the port 143 connection. To skip rsh and go straight to port 143, specify > ":143" after the host name, e.g. {imapserver:143}INBOX > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, John R. Violette wrote: > > > When I set my inbox to be on a remote IMAP server, it takes > > about 30 seconds to get prompted for my password. This seemed kind > > of long so I tried it with mtest which is the c-client test > > program. It still took 30 seconds. Then I tried a telnet to port > > 143 and that is immediate. Is this delay normal when you first > > start up pine. > > > > I have pine 3.91 on HP-UX 9.01 series 715. The imapd is running > > on hpux 9.01 also on a 730. Any help would be appreciated as I > > could not find the answer in the FAQ or anywhere else. > > | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 07:59:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15274; Tue, 25 Jul 95 07:59:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21256; Tue, 25 Jul 95 07:41:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21250; Tue, 25 Jul 95 07:41:52 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA23997; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:41:39 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA05807; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:41:32 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03814; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:41:29 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:39:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" To: pine-info@cac.wasington.edu Subject: Help. Losing mail if first line of body is not blank. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2011253396-851401618-806682769=:3742" Content-Id: Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:41:13 -0400 (EDT) Resent-From: "John R. Violette" Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: --2011253396-851401618-806682769=:3742 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: I am receiving mail from somebody with elm 109.14 on hpux 9.01, which seems always to include a header 'Content-Type: Message/rfc822'. If this header is present and the first line of the body of that mail is NOT BLANK, when PINE reads that mail it shows up as having attachments 1 and 1.1. When you go to view the attachments they are both blank. If I edit the folder and delete the header mentioned above or add a blank line in the top of the body, it can be seen again. Is it HP elm or pine at fault? Any help is appreciated, as we want to roll out PINE and can't unless it can read this format of mail. -- | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | --2011253396-851401618-806682769=:3742 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII; NAME=bad_mail Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Sample bad mail which shows up blank RnJvbSBqdmlvbGV0dEBodWhjMDYgRnJpIEp1bCAyNSAwOTo1MTowMCAxOTk1 DQpTdGF0dXM6IFJPDQpYLVN0YXR1czogDQpSZWNlaXZlZDogZnJvbSBodWhj MDYgYnkgaHVoYzUzIHdpdGggU01UUA0KCSgxLjM3LjEwOS40LzE2LjIpIGlk IEFBMTU4NzY7IFR1ZSwgMjUgSnVsIDk1IDA5OjUxOjU3IC0wNDAwDQpSZXR1 cm4tUGF0aDogPGp2aW9sZXR0QG9uLmJlbGwuY2E+DQpSZWNlaXZlZDogYnkg aHVoYzA2DQoJKDEuMzcuMTA5LjQvMTYuMikgaWQgQUEwMzY1NDsgVHVlLCAy NSBKdWwgOTUgMDk6NTE6NTIgLTA0MDANCkZyb206IEpvaG4gUi4gVmlvbGV0 dGUgPGp2aW9sZXR0QG9uLmJlbGwuY2E+DQpTdWJqZWN0OiBtdGVzdDENClRv OiBqdmlvbGV0dEBodWhjMDYNCkRhdGU6IFR1ZSwgMjUgSnVsIDE5OTUgOTo1 MTo1MiBFRFQNClgtSHB2dWUkUmV2aXNpb246IDEuOCAkDQpNaW1lLVZlcnNp b246IDEuMA0KQ29udGVudC1UeXBlOiBNZXNzYWdlL3JmYzgyMg0KWC1WdWUt TWltZS1MZXZlbDogNA0KWC1NYWlsZXI6IEVsbSBbcmV2aXNpb246IDEwOS4x NF0NCg0KdGhpcyBpcyBsaW5lIDENCg0KDQo= --2011253396-851401618-806682769=:3742-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 08:11:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15707; Tue, 25 Jul 95 08:11:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21489; Tue, 25 Jul 95 07:58:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21483; Tue, 25 Jul 95 07:58:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0salQ9-00038EC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 07:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bonnie Subject: Re: How to send an ASCII file ? Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:41:41 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 23 Jul 1995, VELASCO ARNEZ TITO wrote: > > > Hi there, > > I want to attach an ASCII Text files to my e-mail message. I have > tried with kermit, but I couldn't get (retrieve) the ASCII Text > file from my floppy disk (a:\). > > Any suggestions ? > > Thanks. > > Tito. > > Hi, I had a similar problem. I tried to bring up a file from my PC but couldn't get it to come up with Kermit. Then, I clicked on "Settings" at the top of the page and under Binery Transfers noticed I didn't have Kermit checked. I checked off Kermit and it worked. Maybe that will help. Bonnie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bonnie Crandall author of PANIC BUSTER, Learn to Conquer Panic Attacks and Agoraphobia. A self-help manual/workbook. For information email bcrand@epix.net "The person who bears his suffering with patience, resignation, and faith that God will cure him has found the way to recovery, but many get lost on the way and forget how to apply their faith." Dr. Claire Weekes ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 09:01:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17722; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:01:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04528; Tue, 25 Jul 95 08:53:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04522; Tue, 25 Jul 95 08:53:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0samDu-00038CC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 08:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rob Joyce Subject: Re: Blind CC's Date: 25 Jul 1995 15:28:57 GMT Message-Id: <3v32jp$5m34@theory.tc.cornell.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Bonie, You can use BCC's if you enable "Rich Headers" while you are composing outgoing mail. Control-R will do it if you're in the header portion of the compose view. If this doesn't work, make sure "enable-full-header-cmd" is set in the setup menu. Sorry to repeat if your question has already been answered... -Rob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 09:19:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19243; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:19:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05270; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:13:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05264; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:13:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0samYL-00038HC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bonnie Subject: Blind CC's Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:55:21 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, I am wondering if there is any way in Pine 3.91 to send blind carbon copies? I'm going to be putting out a newsletter and want to know the best way to handle sending copies of the same material to several people. It will be printed on software in my PC, so will have to upload it and attach it to the mail form I guess. So.. if I do that will some people not be able to read it because of MIME?? Thank you for any suggestions you can give me. Bonie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bonnie Crandall author of PANIC BUSTER, Learn to Conquer Panic Attacks and Agoraphobia. A self-help manual/workbook. For information email bcrand@epix.net "The person who bears his suffering with patience, resignation, and faith that God will cure him has found the way to recovery, but many get lost on the way and forget how to apply their faith." Dr. Claire Weekes ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 09:23:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19478; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:23:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23235; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:13:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23221; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:13:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0samWu-00038CC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jimk@engin.umich.edu (james joseph kempf) Subject: Pine for the Mac Date: 25 Jul 1995 14:58:55 GMT Message-Id: <3v30rf$il7@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Status: O X-Status: Is anyone working on a port of Pine for the Power Macintosh? After browsing through the Pine homepage, it doesn't seem to be a future priority to the developers at Washington University. Are there any third party developers working on the port? Or is everyone just happy with Eudora? Jim Kempf From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 09:23:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19562; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:23:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23346; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:17:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23340; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:17:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sambr-00038CC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Jan M.L. Martin" Subject: HELP!!! imapd doesn't work Date: 25 Jul 1995 15:47:12 GMT Message-Id: <3v33m0$4cq@vivaldi.belnet.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Dear PINE-mavens, I installed the imapd binary in /usr/local/etc/imapd, added the following to /etc/services imap 143/tcp #mail transfer and the following to /etc/inetd.conf imap stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/etc/imapd imapd then I refreshed the inetd daemon with a kill -1 I then try to connect from another machine using pine (with mail collection set to {myserver.luc.ac.be}INBOX) and I keep getting this stupid message [[CLOSED] IMAP connection broken (server response)] What am I doing wrong? I've tried installing the server this way both on an RS/6000 using AIX 3.2.5 and on a DEC Alpha 3000 model 800 under OSF 2.1. Same result in both instances... Your Email to martin@luc.ac.be will be greatly appreciated! Sincerely, Jan Martin --- martin@luc.ac.be --- http://www.luc.ac.be/~martin/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 09:39:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20279; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:39:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05520; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:22:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05514; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:22:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0samgv-00038CC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@ask.uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: Help. Losing mail if first line of body is not blank. Date: 25 Jul 1995 15:17:39 GMT Message-Id: <3v31uj$3v1@hermod.uio.no> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , jviolett@on.bell.ca ("John R. Violette") writes: > --2011253396-851401618-806682769=:3742 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > Content-ID: > > I am receiving mail from somebody with elm 109.14 on hpux 9.01, which seems > always to include a header 'Content-Type: Message/rfc822'. If this header > is present and the first line of the body of that mail is NOT BLANK, when > PINE reads that mail it shows up as having attachments 1 and 1.1. When you > go to view the attachments they are both blank. If I edit the folder and > delete the header mentioned above or add a blank line in the top of the > body, it can be seen again. It sound like the same problem that occurred here today. (Unix-Pine 3.91) The mail included another mail as body, which started with 'Content-Type: Message/rfc822' Pine aborted immediately when I tried to read this message. It was probably trying to decode the included mail as well. A MIME-bug? Margrete From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 10:13:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21431; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:13:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24463; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:08:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24457; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:08:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sanOJ-00038CC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: neutrino@annex.com (DANIEL PRINCE) Subject: Newsgroup for tin Date: 24 Jul 1995 18:28:55 GMT Message-Id: <3v0op7$59q@news.annex.com> Status: O X-Status: Is there a newsgroup for the discussion of the program "tin". Thank you in advance for all replies. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 10:19:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21570; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:19:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24417; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:06:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24407; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:06:27 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA26437; Tue, 25 Jul 95 13:05:43 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA08569; Tue, 25 Jul 95 13:05:25 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04429; Tue, 25 Jul 95 13:05:24 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 12:59:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" To: Pine Info Subject: Index wrong when I send mail to myself Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 13:05:21 -0400 (EDT) Resent-From: "John R. Violette" Resent-To: Pine Info Resent-Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: When I send mail to myself from PINE and read it with PINE the Index of mail in my INBOX does not show my name as the sender; it shows whatever is in the 'TO:' field of the message, including the 'TO:'. Why is this? Thanks -- | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 11:44:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25563; Tue, 25 Jul 95 11:44:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08570; Tue, 25 Jul 95 11:24:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08560; Tue, 25 Jul 95 11:24:43 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26997; Tue, 25 Jul 95 11:24:42 -0700 Message-Id: <9507251344.AA01455@isc1.pratt.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:44:16 -0400 From: "Nicholas E. Lygizos" Organization: Pratt Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Popper is moved! X-Url: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.01/msg00704.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I found that the address posted for popper ftp.digex.net/pub/access/schueman/popper.tar.gz is not available anymore. So I looked around and I found the latest version (qpop2.1.4-r3.tar.gz) in the following address: ftp.digex.net/pub/metworking/mail/popper I hope this will help any future POP users. Regards From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 12:54:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28470; Tue, 25 Jul 95 12:54:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28000; Tue, 25 Jul 95 12:39:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27992; Tue, 25 Jul 95 12:39:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sapl6-00038CC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 12:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Index wrong when I send mail to myself Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 12:09:10 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 25 Jul 1995, John R. Violette wrote: > When I send mail to myself from PINE and read it with PINE > the Index of mail in my INBOX does not show my name as the sender; > it shows whatever is in the 'TO:' field of the message, including the > 'TO:'. Why is this? It's a feature! Many people think that it's useful to show who the message is to when it's from you, and the "To:" in the index is the clue that it's from you. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 13:15:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29739; Tue, 25 Jul 95 13:15:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11366; Tue, 25 Jul 95 13:07:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ucsu.Colorado.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11360; Tue, 25 Jul 95 13:06:58 -0700 Received: (from tvelasco@localhost) by ucsu.colorado.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12/CNS-3.6) id OAA03670; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 14:06:46 -0600 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 14:06:45 -0600 (MDT) From: VELASCO ARNEZ TITO To: Bonnie Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to send an ASCII file ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, Bonnie wrote: > On 23 Jul 1995, VELASCO ARNEZ TITO wrote: > > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > I want to attach an ASCII Text files to my e-mail message. I have > > tried with kermit, but I couldn't get (retrieve) the ASCII Text > > file from my floppy disk (a:\). > > > > Any suggestions ? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Tito. > > > > > Hi, > > I had a similar problem. I tried to bring up a file from my PC but > couldn't get it to come up with Kermit. Then, I clicked on "Settings" at > the top of the page and under Binery Transfers noticed I didn't have > Kermit checked. I checked off Kermit and it worked. > > Maybe that will help. > > Bonnie > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Bonnie Crandall author of PANIC BUSTER, Learn to Conquer Panic > Attacks and Agoraphobia. A self-help manual/workbook. For information > email bcrand@epix.net > > "The person who bears his suffering with patience, resignation, and faith > that God will cure him has found the way to recovery, but many get lost > on the way and forget how to apply their faith." Dr. Claire Weekes > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > ------------------------------------> Hi Bonnie Thank you for your message. Finally I got it, but without Kermit. If you are interested how, let me know. Greetings. Tito. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 13:20:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29931; Tue, 25 Jul 95 13:20:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11312; Tue, 25 Jul 95 13:05:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11306; Tue, 25 Jul 95 13:05:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0saq7m-00038CC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 12:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Jan M.L. Martin" Subject: Re: HELP!!! imapd doesn't work Date: 25 Jul 1995 17:21:13 GMT Message-Id: <3v3969$6is@vivaldi.belnet.be> References: <3v33m0$4cq@vivaldi.belnet.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: "Jan M.L. Martin" wrote: >[IMAP proble] It's solved --- for some bizarre reason the executables had been gzipped without having execute permission, and of course this explain everything. If I had slept at all last night I would have noticed this.. WOrks fine now! JM From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 13:41:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00594; Tue, 25 Jul 95 13:41:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28976; Tue, 25 Jul 95 13:25:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28970; Tue, 25 Jul 95 13:24:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0saqTn-00038CC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 13:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: snevel@crl.com (Simeon Nevel) Subject: Re: Newsgroup for tin Date: 25 Jul 1995 18:26:28 GMT Message-Id: <3v3d0k$atb@nntp.crl.com> References: <3v0op7$59q@news.annex.com> Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- DANIEL PRINCE (neutrino@annex.com) wrote: : Is there a newsgroup for the discussion of the program "tin". Thank you : in advance for all replies. Try news.software.readers Simeon - -- snevel@crl.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* A rabbit is just an angel with big ears *-* PGP Key-id x'C9EFCB75' Print: F52E9C76B162CCB262A39F8A87B040C0 >SIG-ONLY< x'048D45C5' 303AA2AA875C2556AD5A24669C817541 >>SECURE<< Finger me at for PGP key(s) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMBU3UCY623zJ78t1AQELEQP/anbfiiczaEYo3xPogIe/4yDA2V8s75av dB+25qYgzcVvWCYRsbdYfCLNapAwr3yr91UEr58i8ZlSskRu++o62enfHId9OxZu 8CE3JENBv9JQuzZCO4weOp44pExnv1pM2++3g5UoQgp2tbjUZDRi9o1LdyhW5TU8 qgPY9ceqoAY= =MrWe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 14:06:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01443; Tue, 25 Jul 95 14:06:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29633; Tue, 25 Jul 95 14:01:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cedarnet.cedarville.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29621; Tue, 25 Jul 95 14:01:49 -0700 Received: from gate.cedarville.edu by cedarnet with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0sar6p-000BQHC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 17:01 EDT From: "TIMOTHY HANSELL" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 16:53:00 -500 (EST) Subject: PINE 3.91 on HP-UX 9.03 X-Gateway: iGate, (WP Office) vers 4.04b - 1057 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <30155A21.969C.181F.000@cedarnet.cedarville.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: I have an HP running HP-UX 9.03. I have pulled down the sources for pine3.91. I know that there is a binary executable for HP-UX 9.X available -- but our problem is that we need to recompile pine to insure that it does have any trojan horse/back doors in it for security reasons. I can't seem to compile this on HP-UX because there is no -ltermcap to be found, and no -ltermlib either. Does anyone have an ideas as to how to get this to compile ? thanks in advance -tim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 15:20:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04166; Tue, 25 Jul 95 15:20:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13818; Tue, 25 Jul 95 15:09:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13812; Tue, 25 Jul 95 15:09:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sas6J-00038CC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 15:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sean@cortex (Sean Dougherty) Subject: PC PINE BIFF?? Date: 25 Jul 1995 21:26:58 GMT Message-Id: <3v3nj2$1fe@medulla.ama.ttuhsc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Is there such a thing a pc-pine version of BIFF. That will just sit on the pc and occasionaly poll the server for mail, then either notify the user about new mail or auto launch pc-pine. Any ideas? thanks sean Manager of WAY too much TTUHSC - Amarillo From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 15:47:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05148; Tue, 25 Jul 95 15:47:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14556; Tue, 25 Jul 95 15:41:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14550; Tue, 25 Jul 95 15:41:43 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03800; Tue, 25 Jul 95 15:41:29 -0700 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 15:41:24 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "John R. Violette" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help. Losing mail if first line of body is not blank. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: It looks like Elm is at fault in this case. The sample you sent should have been labeled with a Content-Type of Text/Plain instead of Message/rfc822. For the latter to be valid, the body of the message (after the blank line) would have to start with a new set of headers... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, John R. Violette wrote: > Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:39:13 -0400 (EDT) > From: John R. Violette > To: pine-info@cac.wasington.edu > Subject: Help. Losing mail if first line of body is not blank. > > I am receiving mail from somebody with elm 109.14 on hpux 9.01, which seems > always to include a header 'Content-Type: Message/rfc822'. If this header > is present and the first line of the body of that mail is NOT BLANK, when > PINE reads that mail it shows up as having attachments 1 and 1.1. When you > go to view the attachments they are both blank. If I edit the folder and > delete the header mentioned above or add a blank line in the top of the > body, it can be seen again. > > Is it HP elm or pine at fault? > Any help is appreciated, as we want to roll out PINE and can't unless > it can read this format of mail. > > -- > | John R. Violette | Software Development | > | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | > | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 16:42:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08015; Tue, 25 Jul 95 16:42:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03195; Tue, 25 Jul 95 16:39:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03189; Tue, 25 Jul 95 16:39:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0satYO-00038CC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 16:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: spatlan@gp807.jsc.nasa.gov (Steve Patlan) Subject: Re: The '+' in Folder Index Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 18:17:05 -0600 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Ralf Wenzel wrote: > In the Folder Index of some of my mail folders (left behind the Flag 'N' > or 'A' or ...) there are some '+'. > > Who can tell me what the '+' means? I read the Online help but I did not > find it... The "+" means that *your* address appears in the "To", "Cc", or "Bcc" fields. This is so you can tell which mail is addressed to you, and which is from a list. - Steve -- Steve Patlan NASA/DF73 (713) 483-1406 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 17:15:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09853; Tue, 25 Jul 95 17:15:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17067; Tue, 25 Jul 95 17:10:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17061; Tue, 25 Jul 95 17:10:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0satxU-00038EC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 17:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: spatlan@gp807.jsc.nasa.gov (Steve Patlan) Subject: Re: Blind CC's Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 18:35:10 -0600 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: Bonnie wrote: > I am wondering if there is any way in Pine 3.91 to send blind carbon copies? "Bcc" is always in the header, you just have to do a ^R ("rich headers"), to see the other lines. If you always want to see it, you can include it in your "standard" header lines, there is an appropriately-named setup option for this, one before or one after the "Custom Headers" option. READ the help on this option - you need to list *all* your default headers, not just the extra ones. > I'm going to be putting out a newsletter and want to know the best way to > handle sending copies of the same material to several people. Well, the only reasons I can think of for using BCC in this case are 1) You don't want all the recipients to know who all the other recepients are. 2) You don't want any e-mail replies inadvertantly being sent to a gazillion folx. > It will be printed on software in my PC, so will have to upload it and > attach it to the mail form I guess. So.. if I do that will some people > not be able to read it because of MIME?? It's quite likely - not everybody speaks MIME. - Steve -- Steve Patlan NASA/DF73 (713) 483-1406 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 25 18:46:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12277; Tue, 25 Jul 95 18:46:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05202; Tue, 25 Jul 95 18:40:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05190; Tue, 25 Jul 95 18:40:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0savOR-00038CC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 18:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brad@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Brad Knowles) Subject: Re: Converting mail formats btwn Pegasus Mail, Eudora, mbox? Date: 26 Jul 1995 00:05:10 GMT Message-Id: <3v40rm$pm1@wcnews01.ops.aol.com> References: <3uopma$1jji@news.doit.wisc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Jong-Min Park (jong-min@cae.wisc.edu) wrote: > Is there a program or a way to convert saved mailbox between > Pegasus Mail, Eudora, and mbox format? This belongs on comp.mail.misc. See also Paul Southworth's mailclient-faq available on rtfm.mit.edu (may or may not be applicable). -- Brad Knowles BKnowles@aol.net Internet Mail Systems Administrator brad@his.com comp.mail.sendmail FAQ Coordinator (703) 918-2256 The comp.mail.sendmail FAQ is located at: The views expressed herein do not necessarily represent those of America Online, Inc. or anyone else other than the author. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 00:04:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19573; Wed, 26 Jul 95 00:04:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22967; Tue, 25 Jul 95 23:59:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22961; Tue, 25 Jul 95 23:59:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sb0Qh-00038CC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 23:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: markdmc@netcom.com (Mark McWiggins) Subject: DOS compiler for Pine? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 20:10:29 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi, We're trying to compile Pine under DOS but are coming up with lots of compilation glitches under Visual C++. Clearly the working DOS executable was compiled with something else; what was it? Also, if you have the diffs for a working DOS compilation with Visual C++ and wouldn't mind sharing, we'd be interested. We're also going to do this for windows, if anyone has a Visual C++ setup for that. In case you're wondering, we need to modify Pine to do Something Special and so can't just use the stock binaries. Thanks in advance. -- Mark McWiggins Hermes & Associates +1 206 957 0848 (24 hrs.) mark@hermes.com Box 52885, Bellevue WA 98015 +1 206 957 7654 (fax) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 00:43:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20254; Wed, 26 Jul 95 00:43:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09555; Wed, 26 Jul 95 00:29:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09549; Wed, 26 Jul 95 00:29:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sb0to-00038CC; Wed, 26 Jul 95 00:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stinnes@stinnes.mh.eunet.de (Frank Valdor) Subject: Re: MS-Mail,PegasusMail to Eudora Mail Date: Wed, 26 Jul 95 09:27:17 GMT Message-Id: <3v4qdd$kt3@Dortmund.Germany.EU.net> References: <3u4t8u$qks@ns1.rad.net.id> Status: O X-Status: benny@rad.net.id (Benny Chandra) wrote: >Is there any freeware or shareware that can convert mail format from >MS-MAIL or from Pegasus Mail to Eudora mail format automatically ? > >Please help me where can I find it. > >Thank's. > > Benny, If you´re running a Netware server you can use MERCURY.NLM to work as an SMTP gateway for Pegasus. It also comes with a POP3 server (MERCURYP.NLM). Eudora users can connect to the POP-Server and get their mail from it. Outgoing mail goes from Eudora to the MERCURY SMTP-Server for forwarding into outer space. MERCURY is available from: ftp://risc.ua.edu/pub/network/pegasus/merc121.zip I you have any questions, please mail me. Frank ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Frank Valdor STINNES Organisationsberatung GmbH Muelheim/Ruhr, Germany Tel. +49(208)494-7376 Fax. +49(208)494-7496 EMail (Office): fvaldor@stinnes.de EMail (Home) : fvaldor@castor.ruhr.de Packet Radio : dh5jg@dk0mwx ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 01:47:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21981; Wed, 26 Jul 95 01:47:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10469; Wed, 26 Jul 95 01:41:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from inet1.dtrd.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10463; Wed, 26 Jul 95 01:41:20 -0700 Received: (from nuucp@localhost) by inet1.dtrd.de (8.6.11/8.6.10) with UUCP id KAA00755 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:41:01 +0200 Received: from sun51.fz.telekom.de (sun51.fz.telekom.de [192.166.56.95]) by sunshine.fz.telekom.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA23041; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:29:23 +0200 Received: by sun51.fz.telekom.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28734; Wed, 26 Jul 95 10:31:43 +0200 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:31:43 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ralf Widera Reply-To: widera@fz.telekom.de To: Sean Dougherty Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC PINE BIFF?? In-Reply-To: <3v3nj2$1fe@medulla.ama.ttuhsc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 25 Jul 1995, Sean Dougherty wrote: > Is there such a thing a pc-pine version of BIFF. That will just sit on > the pc and occasionaly poll the server for mail, then either notify the > user about new mail or auto launch pc-pine. > > Any ideas? I would be interested in such a thing also (kind of imap-based biff). I have heard that PC-Pine 3.92 has a feature that if iconified polls the server and changes the icon if new mail is detected. So maybe we have to wait for 3.92. Ralf --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralf Widera, FZ 211b | Email: widera@fz.telekom.de | Deutsche Telekom AG | phone: +49 6151 83 3855 | o Forschungs- und Technologiezentrum | FAX : +49 6151 83 4066 | /\/ Postfach 10 00 03 | ~ ~~ \__ /_/ D-64276 Darmstadt, Germany | ~~ ~~ / ~ ~~ ---------------------Concerto (n): a fight between a piano and a pianist.-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 02:21:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22591; Wed, 26 Jul 95 02:21:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24805; Wed, 26 Jul 95 02:14:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24799; Wed, 26 Jul 95 02:14:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sb2WI-00038EC; Wed, 26 Jul 95 02:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Guy BRAND Subject: Re: Pine for the Mac In-Reply-To: <3v30rf$il7@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 19:42:07 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi, > Is anyone working on a port of Pine for the Power Macintosh? After browsing > through the Pine homepage, it doesn't seem to be a future priority to the > developers at Washington University. Are there any third party developers > working on the port? Or is everyone just happy with Eudora? I don't think Pine will ever be ported to the Mac... but the developers from CAC could probably give a final opinion concerning this subject ;-) To answer immediately your last question, yes Eudora can be satisfying for a personnal use. It's a very nice and powerful program (I'm not talking about the commercial version, but the freeware release), but it's a POP client, and thus it's not really well suited for some special mail reading environment. Personnaly I don't use Eudora at work, because you have no control on the security of your mail. If you don't care about security problems than Eudora could be good enough for you. An other "problem" with POP (rather than with Eudora itself) is that one cannot just pick up the "desired" parts of a multipart MIME message, you have to retrieve all the message, even if it contains twice the same information (a part in TIFF an other in GIF for example), but this will only be a limitation in the future applications of email. What else to say ? Eudora is handling multiple users accesses to multiple mailboxes, but it's a bit messy if you want to access your mail using several clients (for example a domestic client connecting through a PPP or SLIP server, and some other clients in your office). The choice has not to be made between Eudora and "something else", but between IMAP and POP3. On the Washington Pine FTP server you can find a text document that explains the differences between POP and IMAP paradigms. Several IMAP clients are available for the Macintosh, namely Mail Drop, Mailstrom and Iride (for the free softwares), and there are also commercial programs. IMHO, Mail Drop, written by Carl BELL from Baylor, is the most stable of all and sounds really promising. Release 1.1 does not provide multiple mailbox access, but this should be possible in version 1.2 that should be published at the end of the summer (according to Carl himself). You can find all the IMAP clients in the public domain on Sumex's Info-Mac server and its mirrors (look under comm/tcp/mail). Hope this helps... BuG From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 04:22:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25779; Wed, 26 Jul 95 04:22:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12225; Wed, 26 Jul 95 04:20:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12219; Wed, 26 Jul 95 04:20:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sb4VI-00038CC; Wed, 26 Jul 95 04:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cc047@Cranfield.ac.uk (J.Goldberg) Subject: PGP with PC-Pine and ECS-Mail Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:49:01 BST Message-Id: <1995Jul26.114901@xdm011.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I need a very user friendly (menus, point and click) MS-Windows front-end for PGP for both PC-Pine and ECSMail. I have been trying Private Idaho, but would like advice configuring it for either of these two MS-Windows mailers. I am not an MS-Windows user, but most of the people I need to train on PGP are. Thanks, - -jeff - -- Jeffrey Goldberg Email: J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk WWW: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAgUBMBYfLxu6nIqxqP+5AQHdKQP/ULI6wInFzgInVjTdUx9veXb0XMX3shlV JQsd3XIIodJjSCGVuWSi10mjjhqkWfPRstkgcHUjbXvFJZfcThZTpB9yqOkALv0A 4QApTYb6ZAIWbaBKdUxdD1Ha9V0Kmi8I/nP062uflFQ9yLikwKcap5pGwVLt5cFS pV8UNQaAAyM= =ILwL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 05:09:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26828; Wed, 26 Jul 95 05:09:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27069; Wed, 26 Jul 95 05:05:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27063; Wed, 26 Jul 95 05:05:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sb58W-00038CC; Wed, 26 Jul 95 05:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: koonteck@merlion.singnet.com.sg (Chua Koon Teck) Subject: compiling pine with mbox driver Date: 26 Jul 1995 11:29:02 GMT Message-Id: <3v58tu$m56@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Status: O X-Status: Hi In the pine FAQ, it states that pine can be linked to the mbox driver to make pine not to leave mail in /usr/spool/mail. Can someone guide me how to link mbox to pine ? Appreciate if reply be emailed to me. Thank you. Have a nice day. Regards Chua Koon Teck koonteck@singnet.com.sg SingNet URL="http://www.singnet.com.sg/" Singapore Telecom From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 05:35:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27469; Wed, 26 Jul 95 05:35:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12950; Wed, 26 Jul 95 05:30:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12941; Wed, 26 Jul 95 05:30:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sb5an-00038HC; Wed, 26 Jul 95 05:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: U249026@vm.uci.kun.nl (Branko Collin) Subject: Pico question: how to set tabs Date: Wed, 26 Jul 95 14:16:17 MET Message-Id: <173E7C8B1S86.U249026@vm.uci.kun.nl> Status: O X-Status: The tab size in pico seems to default to 8 characters and I want to make it smaller. Is there a way to do this? ....................................................................... . Branko Collin . 'Zij ontmoetten elkaar in Gent, . . . parel van de Belgische Ardennen . . // u249026@vm.uci.kun.nl . en beroemd om zijn prachtige . . \X/ bcollin@mpi.nl . tulpenvelden.' - Wereld Nonsens . ....................................................................... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 07:49:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01372; Wed, 26 Jul 95 07:49:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29263; Wed, 26 Jul 95 07:39:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29257; Wed, 26 Jul 95 07:39:09 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA14740; Wed, 26 Jul 95 10:38:10 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA00983; Wed, 26 Jul 95 10:38:03 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10794; Wed, 26 Jul 95 10:38:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:38:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" To: TIMOTHY HANSELL Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE 3.91 on HP-UX 9.03 In-Reply-To: <30155A21.969C.181F.000@cedarnet.cedarville.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have built PINE 3.91 for HP-UX 9.01, but it was back in January. I don't remember any problems. I think I used the 'build hpp' command from the root directory of the source tree, even though it is not listed in the 'build help' output. I don't think I had to change anything, but I do have the ANSI C developers compiler, which I think you need. On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, TIMOTHY HANSELL wrote: > I have an HP running HP-UX 9.03. I have pulled down the sources for > pine3.91. I know that there is a binary executable for HP-UX 9.X > available -- but our problem is that we need to recompile pine to > insure that it does have any trojan horse/back doors in it for > security reasons. > > I can't seem to compile this on HP-UX because there is no -ltermcap > to be found, and no -ltermlib either. > > Does anyone have an ideas as to how to get this to compile ? > > thanks in advance > > -tim > | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 08:28:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03091; Wed, 26 Jul 95 08:28:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00408; Wed, 26 Jul 95 08:20:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00402; Wed, 26 Jul 95 08:20:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sb8C2-00038EC; Wed, 26 Jul 95 08:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sasohn@netcom.com (Steve Sohn) Subject: Suspend [^Z] Function Intermittent Message-Id: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 14:31:15 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have found that if I used the suspend function [^Z] to return to the prompt more than once, sometimes twice, it becomes inoperative. That is, after one or two uses, it no longer works. Anybody have any insight on this? -- -- _____________________________________________________________________ Wherever Law ends, | Steve Sohn, The Once and Future DWEM Tyranny begins. | finger: sasohn@netcom.com > John Locke < | ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/sa/sasohn (Second Treatise - 1690) | http://www.webcom.com/~sasohn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 09:32:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06890; Wed, 26 Jul 95 09:32:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16916; Wed, 26 Jul 95 09:20:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16910; Wed, 26 Jul 95 09:20:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sb98U-00038CC; Wed, 26 Jul 95 09:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: Blind CC's Message-Id: <173E7CF0DS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:43:24 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article Bonnie writes: >I am wondering if there is any way in Pine 3.91 to send blind carbon copies? Sure. Bcc: is supported. Use the custom headers option to create one routinely, or turn on full-headers to create one manually. Oh, you want to do it via the addressbook? Well, I think you need to define a listname that includes all of the recipients to which you want to send blind, and specify that listname on your bcc: header. I guess you'll need one recipient (even if it's only yourself) in the "To:" field though. >It will be printed on software in my PC, so will have to upload it and >attach it to the mail form I guess. So.. if I do that will some people >not be able to read it because of MIME?? Depends what you are trying to achieve. Simplest is to produce your material in a monospaced font, save it as plain text, and Read that into your mail. That will reach any email user, MIME-capable or not, but format-wise it's totally boring. If you create nicely WYSIWYG formatted text in some proprietary format and ATTACH it to your mail, then the only recipients who can read it are those who can decode the MIME _and_ have a copy of the proprietary word-processing software. There are a number of intermediate possibilities. So, as I say, it depends on what you want to achieve (and on how much you know about the computing/software environment available to your recipients). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 11:58:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13795; Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:58:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06206; Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:54:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gateway.informix.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06198; Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:54:16 -0700 Received: from informix.com (infmx.informix.com) by gateway.informix.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09674; Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:54:15 PDT Received: from rama.informix.com by informix.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27085; Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:54:14 PDT Received: by rama.informix.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05058; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:53:47 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:53:47 -0700 From: ellenr@informix.com (Ellen Reys) Message-Id: <9507261853.AA05058@rama.informix.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problem using "compose" manu Cc: ellenr@rama.informix.com X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: With starting a new version of the Pine (3.91) I started having an odd problem. The "Compose" menu shows double-lines in its header, and the cursor does not move properly, so I cannot do either compose or forward. Is there any config options I should take care of? Thanks in advance, -Ellen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 14:06:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20310; Wed, 26 Jul 95 14:06:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09398; Wed, 26 Jul 95 13:58:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gateway.informix.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09392; Wed, 26 Jul 95 13:58:29 -0700 Received: from informix.com (infmx.informix.com) by gateway.informix.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13456; Wed, 26 Jul 95 13:58:27 PDT Received: from rama.informix.com by informix.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11020; Wed, 26 Jul 95 13:58:25 PDT Received: by rama.informix.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05183; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:57:54 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:57:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Ellen Reys X-Sender: ellenr@rama To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: jhaas02@eng.eds.com Subject: Re: problem using "compose" menu In-Reply-To: <9507261853.AA05058@rama.informix.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I've fixed the problem. Apparently, when Pine was updated i was in the middle of using it and got a core dump. After doing some experiments, I've killed an old term window, running pine, and started a new one. The problem disappeared. Also, it's possible that you can just type the commands "tabs" in another window to correct the problem. Thanks, -Ellen --------- Thought: Why does man kill? He kills for food. And not only food: frequently there must be a beverage. ----------- ======================================================================= Ellen Reys Informix Software Inc. {uunet|pyramid}!infmx!ellenr From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 14:18:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20992; Wed, 26 Jul 95 14:18:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23809; Wed, 26 Jul 95 14:12:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23803; Wed, 26 Jul 95 14:12:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbDhy-00038CC; Wed, 26 Jul 95 14:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lcornel@cello.gina.calstate.edu (Louis Cornelio) Subject: Pine screen painting? Date: 26 Jul 1995 10:16:36 -0700 Message-Id: <3v5t9k$iro@cello.gina.calstate.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi all. Is there any way to modify how Pine paints text to the screen, if the is the term? I have a unix-based account, VT100 emulation, and use ProTerm 3.1 -- but I can't capture anything to my buffer, which I'm told is due to some feature of Pine. I don't have that problem with Elm, but would like to stay with Pine. Any ideas? ______________________________________________________________________ Louis Cornelio "If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt." lcornel@cello.gina.calstate.edu - Dean Martin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 15:11:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23245; Wed, 26 Jul 95 15:11:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11200; Wed, 26 Jul 95 15:01:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11194; Wed, 26 Jul 95 15:01:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbERj-00038CC; Wed, 26 Jul 95 14:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pcom3241@vega.selu.edu Subject: Need Copy of Pine Date: 26 Jul 95 16:22:25 CST Message-Id: <1995Jul26.162225.1@vega.selu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi. Can anyone tell me where I can download a copy of pine? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Randy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 15:25:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23828; Wed, 26 Jul 95 15:25:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25323; Wed, 26 Jul 95 15:20:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ux1.cso.uiuc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25317; Wed, 26 Jul 95 15:20:30 -0700 Received: from [128.174.33.98] (dewan.cso.uiuc.edu) by ux1.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06783 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 26 Jul 1995 17:20:26 -0500 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 17:20:36 -0600 (CST) From: "Ed DeWan" Reply-To: e-dewan@uiuc.edu Message-Id: <199507261720378171.e-dewan@uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine source Status: O X-Status: I downloaded the Pine source and expanded it, to see if I could find the code that converts addressbook entries into addresses for sent mail; send.c calls check_addresses several times, but I can't locate that particular routine anywhere in the distribution. Can anyone help? Thanks. RSVP to e-dewan@uiuc.edu. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 15:43:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24956; Wed, 26 Jul 95 15:43:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25538; Wed, 26 Jul 95 15:31:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25532; Wed, 26 Jul 95 15:31:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbEy8-00038CC; Wed, 26 Jul 95 15:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Peter Bitsch Hansen Subject: Printing and fonts Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 18:45:29 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Perhaps someone has a solution for this: When printing(Y) from PC-PINE-WINDOWS(3.91), I would like to have control over the fontsize (on a HP-Laser Jet). My print goes to the standard Windows printer, but I can't figure out how to control the fontsize (from Pine or Windows/Printer or ?) Best regards, Hans Peter /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | Hans Peter Hansen | VKI Water Quality Institute | | E-mail: hph@aar-vki.dk | Science Park Aarhus | | Phone: +45 86 20 20 00 /2124 | 10, Gustav Wiedsvej | | Fax: +45 86 19 75 11 | DK 8000 Aarhus C, Denmark | \--------------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 16:02:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25924; Wed, 26 Jul 95 16:02:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26180; Wed, 26 Jul 95 15:59:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26170; Wed, 26 Jul 95 15:59:20 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04612; Wed, 26 Jul 95 15:59:17 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 15:59:13 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Ed DeWan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine source In-Reply-To: <199507261720378171.e-dewan@uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: check_addresses is also in send.c. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Ed DeWan wrote: > Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 17:20:36 -0600 (CST) > From: Ed DeWan > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Pine source > > I downloaded the Pine source and expanded it, to see if I could find the > code that converts addressbook entries into addresses for sent mail; send.c > calls check_addresses several times, but I can't locate that particular > routine anywhere in the distribution. Can anyone help? Thanks. RSVP to > e-dewan@uiuc.edu. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 16:32:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27777; Wed, 26 Jul 95 16:32:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13613; Wed, 26 Jul 95 16:29:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from chase.times.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13607; Wed, 26 Jul 95 16:29:19 -0700 Received: by chase.times.net (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0sbFmy-0000XcC; Wed, 26 Jul 95 19:22 EDT Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 19:22:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Fonger To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: .files Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: In pine I have some .files (like .signature, etc) I would like to delete or edit. When I get to the correct directory using pico, the files are not there. When I am in the directory and ask for the the files using ls ... there they are. Would someone please tell me where these files are really located and why can't I edit them in pico? Thanks for your help. Rick Fonger rfonger@times.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 17:01:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29274; Wed, 26 Jul 95 17:01:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27941; Wed, 26 Jul 95 16:55:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27933; Wed, 26 Jul 95 16:55:37 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0sbGKF-000s9RC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 01:57 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Thu, 27 Jul 95 01:54 MESZ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 01:55:30 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig X-Sender: michaelj@paddington Reply-To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE To: Pine-Info Mailinglist Subject: Re: .files In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi Rick, if you want to edit these files start pico with the explicit path (AND the dot) like "pico ~/.signature". These files are called "hidden", that's why you can't see them in your directory listing (Perhaps there is an Option to turn this off/on) Ciao, Michael Joswig On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Rick Fonger wrote: > In pine I have some .files (like .signature, etc) I would like to delete > or edit. > When I get to the correct directory using pico, the files are not there. > When I am in the directory and ask for the the files using ls ... there > they are. > > Would someone please tell me where these files are really located and why > can't I edit them in pico? > > Thanks for your help. > > Rick Fonger rfonger@times.net > > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE Tel. (040) 651 56 25 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 18:06:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02059; Wed, 26 Jul 95 18:06:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15898; Wed, 26 Jul 95 18:01:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15892; Wed, 26 Jul 95 18:01:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbHIW-00038EC; Wed, 26 Jul 95 17:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine screen painting? Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 20:27:41 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3v5t9k$iro@cello.gina.calstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3v5t9k$iro@cello.gina.calstate.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 26 Jul 1995, Louis Cornelio wrote: > Hi all. Is there any way to modify how Pine paints text to the screen, if > the is the term? > I have a unix-based account, VT100 emulation, and use ProTerm 3.1 -- > but I can't capture anything to my buffer, which I'm told is due to some > feature of Pine. I don't have that problem with Elm, but would like to > stay with Pine. I wonder if it's your communications software. I use Pine 3.91 under Un*x, VT100 emulation, with ProComm Plus v2 / DOS, and screen capture works beautifully for me. No pain, no strain. Maybe you just need to tweak some setting in ProTerm (which I am not familiar with). Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 20:17:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04770; Wed, 26 Jul 95 20:17:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01263; Wed, 26 Jul 95 20:13:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01257; Wed, 26 Jul 95 20:13:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbJJq-00038CC; Wed, 26 Jul 95 20:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine for the Mac Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 19:32:11 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3v30rf$il7@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <3v6nio$pnv@news.wesleyan.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3v6nio$pnv@news.wesleyan.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 27 Jul 1995, Jesse Vincent wrote: > poking around in the washington directories, i did come across c-client > code for macintosh that came with a m-test (very basic imap client) and > to my mild amazement, it ran! my guess is that a competent mac > programmer could hack that together with the rest of the pine source > tree in a few days..unfortunately, i am not such an individual...any > takers? It's a bit more complicated than that. The first thing you need to do is to have some sort of window manager (at the very least, a terminal emulator that imitates something like a VT100) and make all of Pine's cursor positioning codes run under it. mtest is build using Symantec C, which provides a console window. That'd be quite nice; unfortunately it is a "glass teletype" (no cursor positioning). You also need to consider memory management. The native Mac way is like no other system; although you can use malloc() you're really supposed to use double-indirect pointers to permit memory shuffling. To the Mac's credit, there's no stupid 640K limitation like there is on DOS. Next, you need to consider how local file management should be done. The routines in c-client use the Unix compatibility library in Symantec C, which is barely adequate for the limited use it is put to (.newsrc, .mailboxlist, and tmpfile()) by c-client. To have local folders, you need to write a suitable driver in c-client, and you're hampered if you use the Unix compatibility library by the lack of things like ftruncate(). The best thing is probably to use native Mac system calls. A related problem is that some very basic operations (like translate a directory number to its name) can't be done on the Mac; "don't do it that way" is the usual answer from the Mac hackers. Apparently they don't want you to port programs from other operating systems to the Mac (well, gee, they *do* say that rather explicitly in "Inside Macintosh"...). I got as far as porting c-client, and seeing to it that the OS-indepedent parts of Pico compile on the Mac. At that point, I ran into a wall that could only be bested by learning a lot more about native Mac system calls than I had time to expend. [I did, however, learn enough to write the MacTCP support code.] A Mac expert is looking into a Pine port, but there's no definite word on its feasibility yet. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 26 20:19:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04829; Wed, 26 Jul 95 20:19:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17961; Wed, 26 Jul 95 20:17:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17955; Wed, 26 Jul 95 20:17:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbJOY-00038CC; Wed, 26 Jul 95 20:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Suspend [^Z] Function Intermittent Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 20:32:57 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Steve Sohn wrote: > I have found that if I used the suspend function [^Z] to return to the > prompt more than once, sometimes twice, it becomes inoperative. That is, > after one or two uses, it no longer works. > > Anybody have any insight on this? Ummm, just how is it you are doing this? When you say you suspend with ^Z, I presume you are on some flavor of Un*x. ^Z puts a running process in the background. Are you returning pine to the foreground with the 'fg' command, or are you starting up additional copies of pine? I am no Un*x guru, but it is conceivable that if you start up too many copies of the same process, something could be tripping over something else. (I do know from experience that having multiple copies of pine running can cause a folder, such as the INBOX, to go read-only.) Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 01:42:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12238; Thu, 27 Jul 95 01:42:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05222; Thu, 27 Jul 95 01:37:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05216; Thu, 27 Jul 95 01:37:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbOPK-00038CC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 01:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jesse Vincent Subject: Re: Pine for the Mac Date: 27 Jul 1995 00:45:12 GMT Message-Id: <3v6nio$pnv@news.wesleyan.edu> References: <3v30rf$il7@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: poking around in the washington directories, i did come across c-client code for macintosh that came with a m-test (very basic imap client) and to my mild amazement, it ran! my guess is that a competent mac programmer could hack that together with the rest of the pine source tree in a few days..unfortunately, i am not such an individual...any takers? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 01:55:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12456; Thu, 27 Jul 95 01:55:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22825; Thu, 27 Jul 95 01:52:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22819; Thu, 27 Jul 95 01:52:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbOd8-00038CC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 01:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stoke@werple.mira.net.au (Rod May) Subject: Can I use Pine to decode a BASE64 file? Date: 27 Jul 1995 17:20:12 +1000 Message-Id: <3v7enc$98i@werple03.mira.net.au> Status: O X-Status: Hi there, I have a file which is a text export of what is (I believe) a MIME attached JPEG file which has been encoded with BASE64. Can I get Pine to decode the file? At the moment I can only get Pine to load it as text..... any help appreciated, Rod. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 03:22:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14262; Thu, 27 Jul 95 03:22:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06235; Thu, 27 Jul 95 03:18:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06229; Thu, 27 Jul 95 03:18:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbPwy-00038CC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 03:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maor@celsiustech.se Subject: Re: Automatic login for Pine Date: 25 Jul 1995 08:22:47 MET Message-Id: <3v22gu$sju@world.celsiustech.se> References: <3v1b9e$d5m@news.midland.co.nz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: > I am currently using Pine under Unix to log on to another Unix machine on > our network to collect mail. The other machine is running as a IMAP > server. > It there any way to automatically send the username and password in the > similiar way as an 'rlogin' so Pine doesn't have to prompt you for this? > Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks > Jonathan Pine tries to /usr/ucb/rsh the mailserver (with the command /etc/rimapd). If that fails, pine connects to the imap-port insted. (thus requiering a username and password). Set up your account, so you can login without a password (fx. a .rhosts - file in your homedirectory on the mailserver). Then pine's try with rsh will succeed and you won't have to enter username/password. /Mats Ormhed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 04:21:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16047; Thu, 27 Jul 95 04:21:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24845; Thu, 27 Jul 95 04:18:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24839; Thu, 27 Jul 95 04:18:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbQvN-00038EC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 04:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jonathan Allen Subject: Re: Help with printing ... Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 11:10:08 GMT Message-Id: <1995Jul27.111008.14240@mirror.demon.co.uk> References: Status: O X-Status: Jonathan Allen (jonathan@mirror.demon.co.uk) wrote: : : On a machine I have recently installed Pine on (3.89, BTW), I cannot : see how to make Pine print directly into the spool queue - it only : seems to print the message again to the terminal. : : The configuration is: : : Linux 1.2.11, Pine 3.89, smail 3.28 : : I'm sure this is a simple question, to which the answer is totally : obvious, but I'm not sure where to look. Can you help ? I've since retrieved and loaded Pine 3.91, but it still does the same thing. Can't somebody help me ? Jonathan -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Allen | jonathan@mirror.demon.co.uk | Voice: 01271-79023 Barum Computer Consultants | jeremiah@cix.compulink.co.uk | Fax: 01271-24183 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 04:26:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16103; Thu, 27 Jul 95 04:26:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07111; Thu, 27 Jul 95 04:23:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07105; Thu, 27 Jul 95 04:23:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbR0t-00038CC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 04:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Torben Sangild Subject: Kill files Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:02:29 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: How do you (if it is possible) make a killfile in the newsreader of PINE? A killfile is a command that makes the newsreader ignore certain subjects or persons, which kind of cleans a bit in the overwhelming noise of a newsgroup. But how to do? Torben Sangild From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 06:57:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18999; Thu, 27 Jul 95 06:57:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26819; Thu, 27 Jul 95 06:53:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26813; Thu, 27 Jul 95 06:53:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbTLJ-00038CC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 06:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: samael@grape.epix.net (Samael) Subject: Re: incoming-folders Date: 27 Jul 1995 13:24:58 GMT Message-Id: <3v843a$qg6@grape.epix.net> References: <3uvp9h$n5u@server2.nccu.edu.tw> Status: O X-Status: Jennifer Chen (jennifer@cc.cc.nccu.edu.tw) wrote: : It's said Pine has special function like this: the user can create : folder to receive mail from specified person or specified subject. : Is this true? or how can i configure my pine system to do this? According to my documentation, you need a program called procmail, deliver, or filter... i have none of these.. anyone want to be a darling and direct us to them? Samael GT d-(---) s: a--- C++++ US++ P!+ L- E W+ N+++ K+++ w--- O+ M-- V- PS+ PE++ Y++ PGP t+ 5-- X R+++ tv- b+++ DI- D--- G++ e* h r++ y++* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 08:56:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23589; Thu, 27 Jul 95 08:56:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29304; Thu, 27 Jul 95 08:49:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29298; Thu, 27 Jul 95 08:49:42 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24202; Thu, 27 Jul 95 08:49:35 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 08:49:31 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Torben Sangild Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Kill files In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Pine does not currently support killfiles... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 27 Jul 1995, Torben Sangild wrote: > Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:02:29 +0200 (MET DST) > From: Torben Sangild > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Kill files > > How do you (if it is possible) make a killfile in the newsreader of PINE? > > A killfile is a command that makes the newsreader ignore certain subjects > or persons, which kind of cleans a bit in the overwhelming noise of a > newsgroup. But how to do? > > Torben Sangild > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 09:00:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23771; Thu, 27 Jul 95 09:00:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11030; Thu, 27 Jul 95 08:52:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11024; Thu, 27 Jul 95 08:52:26 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24258; Thu, 27 Jul 95 08:51:53 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 08:51:49 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jonathan Allen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help with printing ... In-Reply-To: <1995Jul27.111008.14240@mirror.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: What have you configured in the Setup/Printer screen? It sounds like you have selected attached-to-ansi rather than whatever is appropriate... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 27 Jul 1995, Jonathan Allen wrote: > Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 11:10:08 GMT > From: Jonathan Allen > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Help with printing ... > > Jonathan Allen (jonathan@mirror.demon.co.uk) wrote: > : > : On a machine I have recently installed Pine on (3.89, BTW), I cannot > : see how to make Pine print directly into the spool queue - it only > : seems to print the message again to the terminal. > : > : The configuration is: > : > : Linux 1.2.11, Pine 3.89, smail 3.28 > : > : I'm sure this is a simple question, to which the answer is totally > : obvious, but I'm not sure where to look. Can you help ? > > I've since retrieved and loaded Pine 3.91, but it still does the same > thing. Can't somebody help me ? > > Jonathan > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Jonathan Allen | jonathan@mirror.demon.co.uk | Voice: 01271-79023 > Barum Computer Consultants | jeremiah@cix.compulink.co.uk | Fax: 01271-24183 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 09:08:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24587; Thu, 27 Jul 95 09:08:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11516; Thu, 27 Jul 95 09:04:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11484; Thu, 27 Jul 95 09:04:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbVJv-00038CC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 08:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: How to pipe PostScript? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 15:32:18 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is there an easy way to display a PostScript mail message from within Pine? More precisely, I receive a message in which the body is a PostScript file. I invoke View on it, then | (Pipe), and I enter tail +2 | ghostview as the pipe command. If I use less instead of ghostview, the PostScript source looks okay -- the blank line separating the mail headers from the body is stripped. But ghostview only produces a blank page. Suggestions would be most appreciated. Regards, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 09:23:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25223; Thu, 27 Jul 95 09:23:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00418; Thu, 27 Jul 95 09:19:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00412; Thu, 27 Jul 95 09:19:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbVXh-00038CC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 09:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pete@mudhead.uottawa.ca (Pete Hickey) Subject: Problem with ISO-Latin characters Date: 27 Jul 1995 15:15:35 GMT Message-Id: <3v8ain$t3o@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca> Status: O X-Status: Hi, I'm new here, we're not (yet?) using Pine, but are looking at it. I've run into a problem that *must* be well known, but I saw nothing about it in the FAQ. It occurs when the mail contains either MIME-encoded or 8 bit ISO-Latin characters. The problem occurs on the PC version(s). If a letter is sent containing 'foreign' (accented) characters, on the DOS version, they are converted correctly using the code page so that they display correctly on the screen. However, on the Windows version, the characters are also converted to the code page, however, since windows uses the ISO-Latin character set, the conversion should *not* be done. What can I do? Thanks -Pete -- Pete Hickey | | Communication Services | Pete@mudhead.uottawa.CA | "Take off your shoes.... University of Ottawa | | .... for industry!" Ottawa,Ont. Canada K1N 6N5| (613) 562-5800x1008 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 11:28:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01272; Thu, 27 Jul 95 11:28:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14824; Thu, 27 Jul 95 11:18:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14817; Thu, 27 Jul 95 11:18:25 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0sbXXW-000s9PC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:20 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:17 MESZ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 20:18:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig X-Sender: michaelj@paddington Reply-To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE To: Rick Troxel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to pipe PostScript? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi Rick, ghostview expects the name of the file you want to process. Try "ghostview -" instead, that should work (It does on Unix, check your version which switch to use to read from stdin. Ciao, Michael Joswig On Thu, 27 Jul 1995, Rick Troxel wrote: > Is there an easy way to display a PostScript mail message from within > Pine? More precisely, I receive a message in which the body is a > PostScript file. I invoke View on it, then | (Pipe), and I enter > > tail +2 | ghostview > > as the pipe command. If I use less instead of ghostview, the PostScript > source looks okay -- the blank line separating the mail headers from the > body is stripped. But ghostview only produces a blank page. > > Suggestions would be most appreciated. > > Regards, > -- > Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 > /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his > heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and > the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE Tel. (040) 651 56 25 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 14:46:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10058; Thu, 27 Jul 95 14:46:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19357; Thu, 27 Jul 95 14:39:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19351; Thu, 27 Jul 95 14:39:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbaZs-00038CC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 14:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cckeg@amber.indstate.edu (Keith Gladden) Subject: Setting Up Remote Folders Message-Id: Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 16:43:35 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have tried to set up a remote folder and cannot get it to work. Any help would be greatly appreciated! I have a mail box on a remote server (Novell Netware Server using Mecury) and would like to read this mail box from a UNIX machine (Linux using Pine/IMAPD). I am not sure what needs to run on the remote side. All attempts to connect are refused. I used the following for my incoming folder: {host.indstate.edu}sys\mail\INBOX =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Keith E. Gladden VOICE: (812) 237-7731 Systems Programmer FAX: (812) 237-4361 Academic Computing & Networking Services OFFICE: Rankin Hall R053 Indiana State University PMAIL: amber/cckeg Terre Haute, IN 47809 INTERNET: cckeg@amber.indstate.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 14:57:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10492; Thu, 27 Jul 95 14:57:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08832; Thu, 27 Jul 95 14:50:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08826; Thu, 27 Jul 95 14:50:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbal2-00038EC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 14:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brad@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Brad Knowles) Subject: Re: MS-Mail,PegasusMail to Eudora Mail Date: 27 Jul 1995 17:41:12 GMT Message-Id: <3v8j3o$9cl@wcnews01.ops.aol.com> References: <3u4t8u$qks@ns1.rad.net.id> <3v4qdd$kt3@Dortmund.Germany.EU.net> Status: O X-Status: Frank Valdor (stinnes@stinnes.mh.eunet.de) wrote: > benny@rad.net.id (Benny Chandra) wrote: > >Is there any freeware or shareware that can convert mail format from > >MS-MAIL or from Pegasus Mail to Eudora mail format automatically ? > Benny, > If you´re running a Netware server you can use MERCURY.NLM > to work as an SMTP gateway for Pegasus. It also comes with a > POP3 server (MERCURYP.NLM). This conversation properly belongs on comp.mail.misc. Please direct your follow-ups there. -- Brad Knowles BKnowles@aol.net Internet Mail Systems Administrator brad@his.com comp.mail.sendmail FAQ Coordinator (703) 918-2256 The comp.mail.sendmail FAQ is located at: The views expressed herein do not necessarily represent those of America Online, Inc. or anyone else other than the author. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 16:28:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14628; Thu, 27 Jul 95 16:28:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21438; Thu, 27 Jul 95 16:24:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21432; Thu, 27 Jul 95 16:24:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbcEr-00038CC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 16:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: paulej@iglou.com (Paul E. Jones) Subject: Need a newsreader easier than PINE!!!???!! Message-Id: Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 22:46:49 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi Everyone, Today, I received a request to provide the computer users at our facility with a *very* simple "news" program. This "news" program will provide information such as the lunch menu in the cafeteria, training classes scheduled, notices about software changes, etc. We're running on a UNIX platform, and my initial thought was to allow the users to use PINE. From what *I* can see, PINE is very simple to use, and we could set up (additional) local newsgroups for the new information that needs to be posted. Some information, like the dinner menu, should expire quickly. Other postings, such as software changes should linger around for a while. Again, this looks like a perfect task for newsgroups. I was told, however, that PINE is too hard for some computer users. Some of the users will be people with absolutely no computer experience. I really think that the newsgroup mechanism would work wonderfully, but I need to find a "simpler" interface. I thought many folks here have probably evaluated several news readers and might be able to answer: Are there any *very* simply news readers out there for UNIX? Thanks! Paul // // Paul E. Jones // WWW Home Page: http://metro.turnpike.net/P/paulej // PGP public key available by e-mail or my WWW page // "These are my opinions. They might not be much, but they're all mine!" // From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 16:29:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14690; Thu, 27 Jul 95 16:29:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10885; Thu, 27 Jul 95 16:24:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10879; Thu, 27 Jul 95 16:24:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbcHT-00038EC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 16:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Leandro Navarro Subject: sending as Leandro.Navarro instead of leandro Date: 27 Jul 1995 17:39:34 GMT Message-Id: <3v8j0m$sle@diable.upc.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi, I set up sendmail to use the userdatabase. I could finally send messages as Leandro.Navarro instead of leandro (my username on a sun machine). Unfortunately, pine keeps sending messages as leandro in the From: line. Any clue? Thanks a lot !! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 16:42:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15426; Thu, 27 Jul 95 16:42:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21813; Thu, 27 Jul 95 16:39:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21806; Thu, 27 Jul 95 16:39:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbcTs-00038IC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 16:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu (Jim LeBay) Subject: Re: .files Date: 27 Jul 1995 16:42:49 GMT Message-Id: <3v8fma$ssu@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: Michael Joswig (michaelj@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE) wrote: > These files are called "hidden", that's why you can't see them in your > directory listing (Perhaps there is an Option to turn this off/on) In 3.91 I cannot find an option to display dot files in the file list, but I would like to see this added in a future version. ------ Jim LeBay (517) 353-1800 x143 353-5364 (FAX) Computing Information Center lebay@msu.edu Michigan State University lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu (NeXTmail) ---------- When I was a boy I was told that anybody could become President. Now I'm beginning to believe it. -- Clarence Darrow From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 16:42:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15475; Thu, 27 Jul 95 16:42:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11321; Thu, 27 Jul 95 16:39:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11315; Thu, 27 Jul 95 16:39:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbcTU-00038HC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 16:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: snevel@crl.com (Simeon Nevel) Subject: Re: Need a newsreader easier than PINE!!!???!! Date: 27 Jul 1995 23:20:26 GMT Message-Id: <3v96vq$26o@nntp.crl.com> References: Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Paul E. Jones (paulej@iglou.com) wrote: : : I was told, however, that PINE is too hard for some computer users. : Some of the users will be people with absolutely no computer : experience. I really think that the newsgroup mechanism would work : wonderfully, but I need to find a "simpler" interface. I use the tin newsreader, I learned it just by sitting down and going to it...Simeon - -- snevel@crl.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* A rabbit is just an angel with big ears *-* PGP Key-id x'C9EFCB75' Print: F52E9C76B162CCB262A39F8A87B040C0 >SIG-ONLY< x'048D45C5' 303AA2AA875C2556AD5A24669C817541 >>SECURE<< Finger me at for PGP key(s) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMBgfKSY623zJ78t1AQEv6wQAp7EZFNFLL+gOitJ95Kzg75mSFVeSeE29 jaHN1UtkXmjsNjRAWdvO42rBHeIMegI+UQi+TUSPyDXyp/ef3oe6yVQ43CVXK1+w qvtEQRGVw3xbGTSkYcRYGhKOga7jwr+7vcSZnKk411JI2WnXdIrDgltaUhCoTPZt HxTwsFcBfQc= =6yxE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 17:29:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17854; Thu, 27 Jul 95 17:29:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22822; Thu, 27 Jul 95 17:24:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22816; Thu, 27 Jul 95 17:24:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbdDg-00038CC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 17:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david@services.more.net (David Drum) Subject: bounce-to-newsgroup Date: 28 Jul 1995 00:00:32 GMT Message-Id: <3v99b0$et8@news.missouri.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi, I am in need of bounce-to-newsgroup support in Pine. I found a post from David Miller in the archives saying that it isn't supported (obviously). But looking at the code, it seems like all that would have to happen is for pine/reply.c:bounce() to set up the extra parameters and call pine/send.c:pine_send() instead of pine/send.c:pine_simple_send(). Or, pine/reply.c:bounce() could create the METAENV structure and call pine/send.c:news_poster(). Now, I'll be the first to admit that I haven't tried to set up the extra parameters, and doing so may prove difficult, but I hear people all the time looking for a method of posting to a moderated newsgroup, and this is the way to do it. I'll let everyone know how it goes; comments welcome. Regards, David david@services.more.net -- "That man has a rare gift for obfuscation." -- ST:DS9 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 17:44:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18294; Thu, 27 Jul 95 17:44:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12610; Thu, 27 Jul 95 17:38:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12604; Thu, 27 Jul 95 17:38:10 -0700 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa00144; 27 Jul 95 20:38 EDT Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA18710; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 20:38:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 20:38:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven D. Majewski" X-Sender: sdm7g@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU To: "Paul E. Jones" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Need a newsreader easier than PINE!!!???!! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 27 Jul 1995, Paul E. Jones wrote: > > Today, I received a request to provide the computer users at our > facility with a *very* simple "news" program. This "news" program > will provide information such as the lunch menu in the cafeteria, > training classes scheduled, notices about software changes, etc. > > We're running on a UNIX platform, and my initial thought was to allow > the users to use PINE. From what *I* can see, PINE is very simple to > use, and we could set up (additional) local newsgroups for the new > information that needs to be posted. > > I was told, however, that PINE is too hard for some computer users. > Some of the users will be people with absolutely no computer > experience. I really think that the newsgroup mechanism would work > wonderfully, but I need to find a "simpler" interface. > > I thought many folks here have probably evaluated several news readers > and might be able to answer: > > Are there any *very* simply news readers out there for UNIX? > Pine is by far the simplest of the half dozen or so unix news readers I've tried. Others have more features, but are definitely harder for new users to use. ( There are some very easy GUI oriented Mac newsreaders, and maybe the same for MS-Windows, but most of them don't seem to handle high volume as well as telnet-ing to a unix host. ) > Some information, like the dinner menu, should expire quickly. Other > postings, such as software changes should linger around for a while. > Again, this looks like a perfect task for newsgroups. But maybe you should reconsider the idea of using newsgroups for this info - maybe a gopher or web server would be a better way. They might require more maintenance for the staff, but would, I think, be easier for the users to navigate, and there are several clients for unix, mac and ms-dos/windows to choose from. You can even construct some interactive services, and you can gateway just about anything. ( TIME magazine may be trying to sell you on the idea of interactive shopping on the WorldWideWeb, but really and practically, most folks NOW are using it as a electronic bulletin board, whether for internal use or for their customers or both. ) ---| Steven D. Majewski (804-982-0831) |--- ---| Computer Systems Engineer University of Virginia |--- ---| Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics |--- ---| Box 449 Health Science Center Charlottesville,VA 22908 |--- [ "The grass is always greener, except at t=0" - Stan Kelly-Bootle ] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 19:54:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21863; Thu, 27 Jul 95 19:54:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14728; Thu, 27 Jul 95 19:51:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14722; Thu, 27 Jul 95 19:51:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbfU2-00038CC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 19:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Leigh HUNTER Subject: Could someone E-mail me info on 'vi'. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <9520908.29232@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 22:54:46 GMT Status: O X-Status: I need help in useing the program as it is new to me. Thankyou. e-mail: lahunt@ozemail.com.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 20:09:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22290; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:09:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24973; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:06:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24967; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:06:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbffX-00038EC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: davis@space.mit.edu (John E. Davis) Subject: Re: Need a newsreader easier than PINE!!!???!! Date: 28 Jul 1995 02:46:47 GMT Message-Id: <3v9j2n$jmb@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 27 Jul 1995 19:59:31 -0400, Michael Pollak wrote: : On Thu, 27 Jul 1995, Paul E. Jones wrote: : : > I was told, however, that PINE is too hard for some computer users. : > Some of the users will be people with absolutely no computer : > experience. I really think that the newsgroup mechanism would work : > wonderfully, but I need to find a "simpler" interface. : > : I think PINE is the easiest newsreader for UNIX by far, once someone : (like you) has set up the config file (which isn't hard for someone like : you.) I have never used pine but someone told me that `slrn' is easier to use than pine is. Quite a few people have told me that they think it has the best user interface of any unix newsreader (tin, trn, nn, ...). Of course it is much more powerful than pine. It is available from space.mit.edu in pub/davis/slrn. Here is a list of features: * True referenced-based threading * Draws a colored thread tree using line drawing characters * Multiple server support * Multiple windows - Header summary window showing threads - Article window * Customizable - Keybindings - Colors For example, the default colors, say, using a color xterm such as rxvt, shows the top status bar in blue on white, the author's name in the header summary window as magenta on white, the thread tree as red lines connecting subject titles, the window status lines appear as yellow on blue, the article headers in the article window are cyan on white, the quoted text appears as red on white, and the body of the article appears as blue on white. - Server -> newsrc mappings * Smart screen updating * Online help which is also customizable * Automatic reconnect if server drops connection * Fast on slow modem connections. It does not read the whole active file like many other newsreaders. * Compile with TERM support under Linux From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 20:13:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22375; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:13:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15047; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:10:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15041; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:10:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbfkx-00038CC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: davis@space.mit.edu (John E. Davis) Subject: Re: Need a newsreader easier than PINE!!!???!! Date: 28 Jul 1995 02:50:44 GMT Message-Id: <3v9ja4$jmb@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <3v9j2n$jmb@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Status: O X-Status: On 28 Jul 1995 02:46:47 GMT, John E. Davis wrote: : I have never used pine but someone told me that `slrn' is easier to use than : pine is. Quite a few people have told me that they think it has the best I forgot to mention that slrn only supports reading via NNTP. It does not support reading from a spool directory, yet. --John From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 20:32:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22888; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:32:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25226; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:30:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25220; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:30:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbg6M-00038CC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david@services.more.net (David Drum) Subject: Re: bounce-to-newsgroup Date: 28 Jul 1995 01:38:12 GMT Message-Id: <3v9f24$iqd@news.missouri.edu> References: <3v99b0$et8@news.missouri.edu> Status: O X-Status: David Drum (david@services.more.net) wrote: : But looking at the code, it seems like all that would have to happen is for : pine/reply.c:bounce() to set up the extra parameters and call : pine/send.c:pine_send() instead of pine/send.c:pine_simple_send(). So far I've modified pine/send.c:pine_send() to show me what is contained in the paramters that are sent to pine_send() but not pine_simple_send(). >From the .pine-debug file: === send called === pine_send === editor_title = COMPOSE MESSAGE pine_send === fcc_arg = NULL pine_send === reply_list = 0 pine_send === ref_list = NULL pine_send === custom = 0 (a pointer) pine_send === sticky_fcc = 0 I guess I can't go wrong simulating this in pine/reply.c:bounce(), eh? Regards, David david@services.more.net -- "That man has a rare gift for obfuscation." -- ST:DS9 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 20:53:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23536; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:53:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25486; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:51:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25480; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:51:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbgNz-00038EC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jaffray@qlippoth.net (Alan Jaffray) Subject: Reading news *not* via NNTP or IMAP? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 23:46:21 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hello. I don't have NNTP. I don't have IMAP. I do, however, have read access to /usr/spool/news. Is there any way I (or some other user) can read said news with Pine? Alan (And if not, how difficult of a hack would it be?) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 20:54:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23568; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:54:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15635; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:51:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15629; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:51:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbgN5-00038CC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Pollak Subject: Re: Need a newsreader easier than PINE!!!???!! Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 19:59:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 27 Jul 1995, Paul E. Jones wrote: > I was told, however, that PINE is too hard for some computer users. > Some of the users will be people with absolutely no computer > experience. I really think that the newsgroup mechanism would work > wonderfully, but I need to find a "simpler" interface. > I think PINE is the easiest newsreader for UNIX by far, once someone (like you) has set up the config file (which isn't hard for someone like you.) __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com "When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep, like my Grandfather, and not screaming, like the passengers in his car." __________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 21:59:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25050; Thu, 27 Jul 95 21:59:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16489; Thu, 27 Jul 95 21:55:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16483; Thu, 27 Jul 95 21:55:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbhNt-00038XC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 21:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Could someone E-mail me info on 'vi'. Date: 28 Jul 1995 04:30:15 GMT Message-Id: <3v9p4n$akl@grape.epix.net> References: <9520908.29232@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Status: O X-Status: Leigh HUNTER (lahunt) wrote: : I need help in useing the program as it is new to me. : Thankyou. : e-mail: lahunt@ozemail.com.au try http://www.macom.co.il/vi/ Hope this helps, G'Day. /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 22:18:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25478; Thu, 27 Jul 95 22:18:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26454; Thu, 27 Jul 95 22:15:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26448; Thu, 27 Jul 95 22:15:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbhiG-00038CC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 22:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Could someone E-mail me info on 'vi'. Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 23:32:27 -0400 Message-Id: References: <9520908.29232@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9520908.29232@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 27 Jul 1995, Leigh HUNTER wrote: | I need help in useing the program as it is new to me. | | Thankyou. | e-mail: lahunt@ozemail.com.au Try subscribing to the newsgroup comp.editors . I think a long FAQ on vi is posted there twice a month. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 27 22:26:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25716; Thu, 27 Jul 95 22:26:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16901; Thu, 27 Jul 95 22:24:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16895; Thu, 27 Jul 95 22:24:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbhpe-00038IC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 22:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Reading news *not* via NNTP or IMAP? Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 21:58:32 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 27 Jul 1995, Alan Jaffray wrote: > Hello. > > I don't have NNTP. I don't have IMAP. I do, however, > have read access to /usr/spool/news. Is there any way > I (or some other user) can read said news with Pine? > > Alan News collections of *[] instead of *{nntp-server}[] -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 01:19:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29166; Fri, 28 Jul 95 01:19:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28411; Fri, 28 Jul 95 01:13:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28403; Fri, 28 Jul 95 01:13:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbkUX-00038EC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 01:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jonathan Allen Subject: Re: Help with printing ... Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 07:49:48 GMT Message-Id: <1995Jul28.074948.19324@mirror.demon.co.uk> References: <1995Jul27.111008.14240@mirror.demon.co.uk> Status: O X-Status: David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : What have you configured in the Setup/Printer screen? It sounds like you : have selected attached-to-ansi rather than whatever is appropriate... Yes - you are quite right. But you have answered my question by pointing me at the 'setup' screen. Thankyou. Can the same 'config' options get me out of second problem - namely that all mail sent from Pine on that machine has the 'From ' bit right, but the 'ReplyTo:' always comes out as @localhost rather than the machine's real name. Jonathan -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Allen | jonathan@mirror.demon.co.uk | Voice: 01271-79023 Barum Computer Consultants | jeremiah@cix.compulink.co.uk | Fax: 01271-24183 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 02:11:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00526; Fri, 28 Jul 95 02:11:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28975; Fri, 28 Jul 95 02:07:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28969; Fri, 28 Jul 95 02:07:01 -0700 Received: from slave.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 28 Jul 1995 09:21:02 +0100 Received: by slave.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA00756; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 09:21:37 +0100 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 09:21:36 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@slave.york.ac.uk To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Need a newsreader easier than PINE!!!???!! In-Reply-To: <3v96vq$26o@nntp.crl.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have always found tin and rn very unintuitive to use. In particular the way that articles "disappear" as soon as you have looked at them. In fact the newsreader has simply hidden them because you have looked at them. I much prefer Pine's paradigm of getting you to actually Delete them to hide them. I still find Tin tricky the odd time I use it. Sometimes "q" seems to take me out a menu level, and sometimes it dumps me out of the program (when I was expecting to go up a level instead). We're finding here that whilst our Technocrats seem to have a preference for Tin (and slagging of Pine), many new users are finding Pine just great for newsreading. I'm fairly sure that we have people now using Usenet News because of Pine, but wouldn't be if they'd had the hurdle of Yet Another Program to learn. If Pine's interface really is a problem (and I don't see why it should be if they're familiar with using it for e-mail) then you may have to be looking at an alternative technology. For example, we use World-Wide Web browsers with some home written CGI scripts to provide a nice friendly browsing/inserting mechanism for Small Ads and Login News/Notices. However this works better for "one way" announcements, rather than the two-way chains of discussions News is so much better at. It's a thought... Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 27 Jul 1995, Simeon Nevel wrote: > Paul E. Jones (paulej@iglou.com) wrote: > : > : I was told, however, that PINE is too hard for some computer users. > : Some of the users will be people with absolutely no computer > : experience. I really think that the newsgroup mechanism would work > : wonderfully, but I need to find a "simpler" interface. > > > I use the tin newsreader, I learned it just by sitting down and going to > it...Simeon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 02:41:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00935; Fri, 28 Jul 95 02:41:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20232; Fri, 28 Jul 95 02:37:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20226; Fri, 28 Jul 95 02:37:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sblpe-00038BC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 02:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "T. Chuck Hazzard" Subject: Configuring Pine 3.89 As A News Reader Date: 28 Jul 1995 09:19:56 GMT Message-Id: <3vaa3s$28m9@saturn.caps.maine.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I am trying to use Pine 3.89 as a news reader with limited success. I defined the nntp-server and news-collections variables in .pinerc. I created .newsrc with entries for each news group I am interested in. Each news group now shows up in my folder list and is accessible. My problem is when I specify e(X)punge, I receive the message: "[eXclude of deleted news not implemented yet.]" This leads me to believe that I have either missed something in pinerc or 3.89 was still not ready for primetime. Similarly, I am unable to access the list of all newsgroups using the (A)dd command. I receive the error: "[News subscribe and selection screen not ready yet!]" Your help is greatly appreciated. -- o cHaz o Maine Science & Technology Foundation Email: hazbro@mstf.org Web: http://www.mstf.org/~hazbro Phone: 207.621.6350 Fax: 207.621.6369 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 04:39:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03715; Fri, 28 Jul 95 04:39:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00804; Fri, 28 Jul 95 04:37:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00790; Fri, 28 Jul 95 04:36:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbnfS-00038BC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 04:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Need a newsreader easier than PINE!!!???!! Date: 28 Jul 95 11:36:29 GMT Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: paulej@iglou.com (Paul E. Jones) writes: >Hi Everyone, >Today, I received a request to provide the computer users at our >facility with a *very* simple "news" program. This "news" program >will provide information such as the lunch menu in the cafeteria, >training classes scheduled, notices about software changes, etc. >We're running on a UNIX platform, and my initial thought was to allow >the users to use PINE. From what *I* can see, PINE is very simple to >use, and we could set up (additional) local newsgroups for the new >information that needs to be posted. >Some information, like the dinner menu, should expire quickly. Other >postings, such as software changes should linger around for a while. >Again, this looks like a perfect task for newsgroups. >I was told, however, that PINE is too hard for some computer users. >Some of the users will be people with absolutely no computer >experience. I really think that the newsgroup mechanism would work >wonderfully, but I need to find a "simpler" interface. >I thought many folks here have probably evaluated several news readers >and might be able to answer: > Are there any *very* simply news readers out there for UNIX? I don't think news is even the best approach. Gopher explicitly presents everything in menus. It is possible to setup scripts that use the gopher client to open a particular part of the server. I have written simple scripts name "help" and "policy" that do this kind of thing. >Thanks! >Paul >// >// Paul E. Jones >// WWW Home Page: http://metro.turnpike.net/P/paulej >// PGP public key available by e-mail or my WWW page >// "These are my opinions. They might not be much, but they're all mine!" >// -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Web admin: chimera,nn,tin,jove,kermit - free's best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 05:30:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04761; Fri, 28 Jul 95 05:30:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22497; Fri, 28 Jul 95 05:26:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22491; Fri, 28 Jul 95 05:26:51 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA26173; Fri, 28 Jul 95 08:24:25 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA12197; Fri, 28 Jul 95 08:24:19 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27899; Fri, 28 Jul 95 08:24:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 08:24:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" To: Samael Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: incoming-folders In-Reply-To: <3v843a$qg6@grape.epix.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: >From procmail README: Procmail mailinglist: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de ---------------------- A recent version can be picked up at various comp.sources.misc archives. The latest version can be obtained directly from the ftp-archive at: ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (137.226.225.3) as (g)zipped tar file: /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz <160KB as compressed tar file: /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.Z <224KB On 27 Jul 1995, Samael wrote: > Jennifer Chen (jennifer@cc.cc.nccu.edu.tw) wrote: > : It's said Pine has special function like this: the user can create > : folder to receive mail from specified person or specified subject. > : Is this true? or how can i configure my pine system to do this? > > According to my documentation, you need a program called procmail, > deliver, or filter... i have none of these.. anyone want to be a darling > and direct us to them? > Samael > GT d-(---) s: a--- C++++ US++ P!+ L- E W+ N+++ K+++ w--- O+ M-- V- PS+ > PE++ Y++ PGP t+ 5-- X R+++ tv- b+++ DI- D--- G++ e* h r++ y++* > | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 09:00:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10189; Fri, 28 Jul 95 09:00:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26005; Fri, 28 Jul 95 08:57:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25996; Fri, 28 Jul 95 08:57:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbrlR-00038BC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 08:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david@services.more.net (David Drum) Subject: Re: bounce-to-newsgroup Date: 28 Jul 1995 15:43:06 GMT Message-Id: <3vb0ia$jou@news.missouri.edu> References: <3v99b0$et8@news.missouri.edu> <3v9f24$iqd@news.missouri.edu> Status: O X-Status: David Drum (david@services.more.net) wrote: : So far I've modified pine/send.c:pine_send() to show me what is contained : in the paramters that are sent to pine_send() but not pine_simple_send(). : From the .pine-debug file: [snip] : I guess I can't go wrong simulating this in pine/reply.c:bounce(), eh? Well it didn't work like I expected - it dumped me into the composer. It probably wiped out the headers too. Back to option 2. Regards, David david@services.more.net -- "That man has a rare gift for obfuscation." -- ST:DS9 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 09:33:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12138; Fri, 28 Jul 95 09:33:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27002; Fri, 28 Jul 95 09:27:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26996; Fri, 28 Jul 95 09:27:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbsDY-00038CC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 09:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stockton@southwind.edu (Brian Stockton) Subject: Re: {Q} Can pine be set to forward mail? Date: 28 Jul 1995 12:00:47 GMT Message-Id: <3vajhf$5iu@fox.friends.edu> References: <3tqb1g$pg6@unix.tpe.com> Status: O X-Status: In article <3tqb1g$pg6@unix.tpe.com>, "John Waters - @ring.com" says: > >How can we set pine to forward mail to a different address? Can't find >anything in the online docs. ..... unless we are really just missing it! It's not actually PINE doing the job. It's your systems mailer daemon. Forwarding mail is pretty simple though... Create a file in your directory called ".forward". In that file, type on the first line the address you want your mail forwarded to. (Sample: user@inter.net) Hope this helps.... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 09:33:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12154; Fri, 28 Jul 95 09:33:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04939; Fri, 28 Jul 95 09:27:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04933; Fri, 28 Jul 95 09:27:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbsCu-00038BC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 09:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stockton@southwind.edu (Brian Stockton) Subject: {Q}Problem with Pine spell check Date: 28 Jul 1995 12:21:17 GMT Message-Id: <3vaknt$5iu@fox.friends.edu> Status: O X-Status: I have recently been asked to start administrating our internet server so I will appologize "up-front" for being semi UNIX ignorant. We are having a problem with the spell check feature within Pine (Pico). Pine and Pico seem to work just fine but when you ask for it spell check, it just refreshes the screen and says that it is done. Now we all know that the spell checker ALWAYS finds something that it thinks is misspelled. With that in mind I even purposely misspelled many words and it passed them right up. I guess my question is if there is a config. file that points to a data base of words or maybe a switch somewhere that isn't set right. Any words of wisdom is appreciated. Thanks... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 10:57:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16236; Fri, 28 Jul 95 10:57:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06727; Fri, 28 Jul 95 10:52:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06721; Fri, 28 Jul 95 10:52:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbtWG-00038BC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 10:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maor@celsiustech.se (Mats Ormhed) Subject: cmsg cancel <3vanui$phd@world.celsiustech.se> Control: cancel <3vanui$phd@world.celsiustech.se> Date: 28 Jul 1995 16:07:25 +0200 Message-Id: <3vaqut$pq1@world.celsiustech.se> Status: O X-Status: <3vanui$phd@world.celsiustech.se> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 11:07:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16735; Fri, 28 Jul 95 11:07:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29352; Fri, 28 Jul 95 11:03:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29346; Fri, 28 Jul 95 11:03:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbtgL-00038BC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 10:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Automatic login for Pine In-Reply-To: pmb1@mailer.york.ac.uk's message of 25 Jul 1995 01: 15:49 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3v1b9e$d5m@news.midland.co.nz> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 17:08:36 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article pmb1@mailer.york.ac.uk (Mike Brudenell) writes: So on the IMAP server machine simply make /etc/rimapd a symbolic link pointing at the real IMAP daemon program. Obviously you'll also need to be able to rsh to the host, so may need to set up a .rhosts file (per user) or a global hosts.equiv file to allow rsh type access to the server machine. Hmm. After creating the symlink (I already had rsh authentication), PC-Pine still doesn't preauthenticate me. Does anyone have additional suggestions? Thanks, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 11:32:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18016; Fri, 28 Jul 95 11:32:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07518; Fri, 28 Jul 95 11:27:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07512; Fri, 28 Jul 95 11:27:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbu5l-00038HC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 11:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Need a newsreader easier than PINE!!!???!! Date: 28 Jul 1995 17:30:50 GMT Message-Id: <3vb6sa$rcd@news1.wolfe.net> References: Status: O X-Status: I'd say that either Pine or Lynx (with the `news:' URL) are the easiest. How about if you create a Web page with a list of the newsgroups linked using the `news:' URL and then give people a choice of using either Pine of Lynx to participate in the newsgroups? Nancy -- Nancy McGough Primary Web: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ Infinite Ink Mirror Web: http://www.best.com/~ii/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 11:42:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18601; Fri, 28 Jul 95 11:42:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07772; Fri, 28 Jul 95 11:36:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07766; Fri, 28 Jul 95 11:36:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbuCe-00038KC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 11:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: bounce-to-newsgroup In-Reply-To: david@services.more.net's message of 28 Jul 1995 00: 00:32 GMT Message-Id: References: <3v99b0$et8@news.missouri.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 17:25:54 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <3v99b0$et8@news.missouri.edu> david@services.more.net (David Drum) writes: I am in need of bounce-to-newsgroup support in Pine. I found a post from David Miller in the archives saying that it isn't supported (obviously). But looking at the code, it seems like all that would have to happen is for pine/reply.c:bounce() to set up the extra parameters and call pine/send.c:pine_send() instead of pine/send.c:pine_simple_send(). Or, pine/reply.c:bounce() could create the METAENV structure and call pine/send.c:news_poster(). Now, I'll be the first to admit that I haven't tried to set up the extra parameters, and doing so may prove difficult, but I hear people all the time looking for a method of posting to a moderated newsgroup, and this is the way to do it. I must be misunderstanding something here. Shouldn't your news software by taking care of moderated groups, so that posting normally (by pine or any other means) will have the effect of reaching the moderators? -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 11:42:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18639; Fri, 28 Jul 95 11:42:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00347; Fri, 28 Jul 95 11:36:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00341; Fri, 28 Jul 95 11:36:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbuBQ-00038HC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 11:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: How to pipe PostScript? (solution) In-Reply-To: rick@helix.nih.gov's message of Thu, 27 Jul 1995 15: 32:18 GMT Message-Id: References: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 18:03:26 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) writes: Is there an easy way to display a PostScript mail message from within Pine? More precisely, I receive a message in which the body is a PostScript file. I invoke View on it, then | (Pipe), and I enter tail +2 | ghostview Michael Joswig (my mail to him bounced, so I'll suppress what is evidently an incorrect address for him) supplied the solution: Add an argument of - (minus sign) to ghostview. Thanks, Michael! -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 12:16:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20198; Fri, 28 Jul 95 12:16:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08438; Fri, 28 Jul 95 12:09:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08432; Fri, 28 Jul 95 12:09:32 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0sbuoK-000s9VC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 21:11 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Fri, 28 Jul 95 21:08 MESZ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 21:09:20 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig X-Sender: michaelj@paddington Reply-To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE To: Leandro Navarro Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: sending as Leandro.Navarro instead of leandro In-Reply-To: <3v8j0m$sle@diable.upc.es> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- This hould become an entry in the FAQ: In the config-part of Setup you can add the following entry to the field "customized-hdrs": "Reply-To: " Your emails still come from leandro, but when replying the right address will be used. Ciao, Michael Joswig On 27 Jul 1995, Leandro Navarro wrote: > Hi, I set up sendmail to use the userdatabase. I could finally > send messages as Leandro.Navarro instead of leandro (my > username on a sun machine). Unfortunately, pine keeps sending > messages as leandro in the From: line. Any clue? > > Thanks a lot !! > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: PGP Signed with PineSign 2.0 iQB1AwUBMBk1zxWxHCTRfN4BAQGKiQL/Xv24ve8IPx0IiodMmszaDhsWC3hrRHCM jcUoXK7JOYu16Y95mLa4TV3DGzXglhHV5WPs1mgXjPbFfYrBaI96O18VC+lZKsx4 xm2XqwyC47dlp5aWeHFUauPj3/zqtugn =LeAu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE Tel. (040) 651 56 25 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 14:09:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26610; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:09:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11413; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:06:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hpux1.vtmednet.org by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11407; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:06:51 -0700 Received: by hpux1.vtmednet.org (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA150035976; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 17:12:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 17:12:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert McDowell To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug for Pine 3.91, with a bad "personal-name" changing return , address (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="929880231-1903590565-806964881=:14706" Content-Id: Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --929880231-1903590565-806964881=:14706 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 17:02:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert McDowell To: Pine Developers Subject: Bug for Pine 3.91, with a bad "personal-name" changing return address The personal-name in setup configuration threw me off. My login ID @ this host is m012499, and my email alias is Robert.McDowell I had "personal-name" set to Robert W. McDowell, M.D. PINE took this and made a line: >From : Robert W. McDowell, M.D. <"Robert.W. McDowell, M.D."@vtmednet.org> Many mailers took this as the reply address instead of the "From" line at the very top of the message. Thus a lot of people would try to reply, and would have their mail refused by my host. Thanks! --929880231-1903590565-806964881=:14706-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 14:14:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26939; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:14:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04532; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:07:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04524; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:07:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbwZk-00038BC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fox Data Subject: Internet Research, Please Help!! Date: 28 Jul 1995 20:17:17 GMT Message-Id: <3vbgkd$k99@electra.cortland.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: We are doing some research on the internet. We would appreciate some help. If you visit our page we hope you will have some fun. You can find us at: phantom.http.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 14:28:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27472; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:28:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04890; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:22:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04884; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:22:45 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04573; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:22:43 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:22:35 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Rick Troxel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Automatic login for Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 28 Jul 1995, Rick Troxel wrote: > Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 17:08:36 GMT > From: Rick Troxel > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Automatic login for Pine > > In article > pmb1@mailer.york.ac.uk (Mike Brudenell) writes: > > So on the IMAP server machine simply make /etc/rimapd a symbolic link > pointing at the real IMAP daemon program. > > Obviously you'll also need to be able to rsh to the host, so may need to > set up a .rhosts file (per user) or a global hosts.equiv file to allow > rsh type access to the server machine. > > Hmm. After creating the symlink (I already had rsh authentication), > PC-Pine still doesn't preauthenticate me. Does anyone have additional > suggestions? > PC-Pine doesn't use pre-authentication, since it is so easy to forge you ID on most PCs... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 14:41:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27983; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:41:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05107; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:34:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05101; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:34:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbx0o-00038BC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tcheney@stable.pop.upenn.edu (Timothy P. Cheney) Subject: OS/2 version of pine? Date: 28 Jul 1995 19:21:35 GMT Message-Id: <3vbdbv$fum@netnews.upenn.edu> Status: O X-Status: Has anyone ported pine to OS/2? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | tcheney@pop.upenn.edu | | Timothy P. Cheney (215) 898-3197 | | Population Studies Center | | 239 McNeil/6298 | | University of Pennsylvania | | Philadelphia, PA 19104 | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 14:45:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28175; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:45:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11936; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:34:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11930; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:34:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbwxZ-00038CC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jeffback@aol.com (Jeffback) Subject: Sending a message to all PINE users. Date: 28 Jul 1995 17:12:52 -0400 Message-Id: <3vbjsk$17a@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: We are running PINE on a SCO UNIX 486 computer. Is there any way to send a message to all of our 90 users at once. I've seen a message sent from a "SUPERUSER" that appeared to send a message to all users but I cannot get it to work on our system. Anybody have any ideas??? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 14:57:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28608; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:57:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05505; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:53:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05499; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:53:05 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05482; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:53:04 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:53:01 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Brian Stockton Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: {Q}Problem with Pine spell check In-Reply-To: <3vaknt$5iu@fox.friends.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: What type of system are you using? Some Linux systems use ispell rather than the traditional spell program and the command syntax is incompatible. The Linux port of Pine has not been updated to take that into account... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 28 Jul 1995, Brian Stockton wrote: > Date: 28 Jul 1995 12:21:17 GMT > From: Brian Stockton > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: {Q}Problem with Pine spell check > > I have recently been asked to start administrating our internet server so > I will appologize "up-front" for being semi UNIX ignorant. > > We are having a problem with the spell check feature within Pine (Pico). > Pine and Pico seem to work just fine but when you ask for it spell check, > it just refreshes the screen and says that it is done. Now we all know > that the spell checker ALWAYS finds something that it thinks is misspelled. > With that in mind I even purposely misspelled many words and it passed them > right up. I guess my question is if there is a config. file that points to > a data base of words or maybe a switch somewhere that isn't set right. > Any words of wisdom is appreciated. Thanks... > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 14:57:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28629; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:57:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05437; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:50:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05425; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:50:27 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05437; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:50:25 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:50:19 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "T. Chuck Hazzard" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Configuring Pine 3.89 As A News Reader In-Reply-To: <3vaa3s$28m9@saturn.caps.maine.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Pine 3.89 did not have full News support. In particular you could not post from it. Please try the current Pine 3.91 release... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 28 Jul 1995, T. Chuck Hazzard wrote: > Date: 28 Jul 1995 09:19:56 GMT > From: T. Chuck Hazzard > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Configuring Pine 3.89 As A News Reader > > I am trying to use Pine 3.89 as a news reader with limited > success. I defined the nntp-server and news-collections > variables in .pinerc. I created .newsrc with entries for each > news group I am interested in. Each news group now shows up in > my folder list and is accessible. My problem is when I specify > e(X)punge, I receive the message: > > "[eXclude of deleted news not implemented yet.]" > > This leads me to believe that I have either missed something in > pinerc or 3.89 was still not ready for primetime. > > Similarly, I am unable to access the list of all newsgroups > using the (A)dd command. I receive the error: > > "[News subscribe and selection screen not ready yet!]" > > Your help is greatly appreciated. > > -- > o cHaz o > > Maine Science & Technology Foundation > Email: hazbro@mstf.org > Web: http://www.mstf.org/~hazbro > Phone: 207.621.6350 > Fax: 207.621.6369 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 15:37:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00338; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:37:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13101; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:34:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13095; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:34:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbxu9-00038CC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: blane@eskimo.com (Brian Lane) Subject: Pine for OS/2 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 19:11:11 GMT Status: O X-Status: Has anyone done a port of Pine to OS/2? I'd like to be able to read my mail either locally or over a SLIP connection. Brian -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ G.U.E. Technical Institute 1:138/162.0 | ftp.eskimo.com/blane FREE Dungeon training for budding adventurers | www.eskimo.com/~blane ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 15:39:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00481; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:39:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06463; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:34:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06457; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:34:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbxtU-00038BC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jperates@world.std.com (Joe H Perates) Subject: printing problems Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 19:18:27 GMT Status: O X-Status: I was wondering if anyone could help me. I recently purchased Procomm Plus version 2.11 and when I use Pine it occasionally decides not to print when I type in "Y", "Y". I simply get a response that says "printing complete" from Pine, but I don't get anything from the printer. The printer itself works perfectly with other applications and somehow it works part of the time. I've tried everything in the printer setup of Procomm but nothing seems to have a long lasting effect. Please Help!!!!!! Thanks, Joe Perates (jperates@world.std.com) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Joe H. Perates e-mail: jperates@world.std.com http://world.std.com/~jperates Gruntal & Co. Inc Office: (617) 728-2200 x2294 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 15:44:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00774; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:44:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06474; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:34:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06466; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:34:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbxx6-00038EC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sanjib@chulu.mos.com.np (sanjib ) Subject: Pine for AIX Date: 28 Jul 1995 16:12:11 GMT Message-Id: <3vb28r$6f2@manaslu.mos.com.np> Status: O X-Status: Hello, Would me most obliged if someone there could please tell me where I can find Pine for AIX (3.2.x or 4.1.x). Thanks in advance -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sanjib Raj Bhandari Fax: 977-1-225407 Mercantile Office Systems Tel: 977-1-220773 Durbar Marg, Kathmandu, Nepal e-mail: sanjib@mos.com.np ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 16:06:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01818; Fri, 28 Jul 95 16:06:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13713; Fri, 28 Jul 95 16:04:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13707; Fri, 28 Jul 95 16:04:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbyND-00038BC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: modus@robot.asimov.net (Patrick Michael Kane) Subject: Any possible remote addressbook hacks? Date: 28 Jul 1995 19:38:42 GMT Message-Id: <3vbec3$bba@news.cais.com> Status: O X-Status: I know that remote addressbooks are currently not supported in pine, but are there any hacks or patches that would make them possible? Are the imap related functions easy enough that I could hack remote addressbooks in with little pain? Thanks for any help, Patrick From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 17:21:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05084; Fri, 28 Jul 95 17:21:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08856; Fri, 28 Jul 95 17:19:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08850; Fri, 28 Jul 95 17:19:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sbzZA-00038BC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 17:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tom Christiansen Subject: Re: Need a newsreader easier than PINE!!!???!! Date: 29 Jul 1995 00:02:29 GMT Message-Id: <3vbtql$arc@csnews.cs.colorado.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In news.software.readers, Michael Pollak writes: : :On Thu, 27 Jul 1995, Paul E. Jones wrote: : :> I was told, however, that PINE is too hard for some computer users. :> Some of the users will be people with absolutely no computer :> experience. I really think that the newsgroup mechanism would work :> wonderfully, but I need to find a "simpler" interface. :> :I think PINE is the easiest newsreader for UNIX by far, once someone :(like you) has set up the config file (which isn't hard for someone like :you.) Actually, trn is the easiest: you never hit but space, and an 8-command cheat sheet is more than adequate. Nonetheless, you still have to give them a start-up file. Most of the problems with sophisticated packages like trn, X windows, vi, emacs, and a host of similar things is that without super simple config files, computer users without a programming background will be lost. The right 30 minute tutorial by the appropriate guru sitting down and making your world better as YOU defined better will make all the difference. --tom -- Tom Christiansen Perl Consultant, Gamer, Hiker tchrist@mox.perl.com In general, they do what you want, unless you want consistency. --Larry Wall in the perl man page From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 18:30:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06719; Fri, 28 Jul 95 18:30:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16104; Fri, 28 Jul 95 18:28:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16098; Fri, 28 Jul 95 18:28:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sc0do-00038BC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 18:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maor@celsiustech.se Subject: Re: Need a newsreader easier than PINE!!!???!! Date: 28 Jul 1995 16:02:58 MET Message-Id: <3vaqjp$poq@world.celsiustech.se> References: > Today, I received a request to provide the computer users at our > facility with a *very* simple "news" program. This "news" program > will provide information such as the lunch menu in the cafeteria, > training classes scheduled, notices about software changes, etc. > > We're running on a UNIX platform, and my initial thought was to allow > the users to use PINE. From what *I* can see, PINE is very simple to > use, and we could set up (additional) local newsgroups for the new > information that needs to be posted. > > I was told, however, that PINE is too hard for some computer users. > Some of the users will be people with absolutely no computer > experience. I really think that the newsgroup mechanism would work > wonderfully, but I need to find a "simpler" interface. > > I thought many folks here have probably evaluated several news readers > and might be able to answer: > > Are there any *very* simply news readers out there for UNIX? > Try the latest version of Netscape (from www.mcom.com), it contains a newsreader, much better than pine (but not too god). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 28 19:10:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07382; Fri, 28 Jul 95 19:10:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10365; Fri, 28 Jul 95 19:08:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10359; Fri, 28 Jul 95 19:08:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sc1Gk-00038BC; Fri, 28 Jul 95 19:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: plaws@comp.uark.edu (Peter Laws) Subject: Re: Could someone E-mail me info on 'vi'. Date: 29 Jul 1995 01:27:10 GMT Message-Id: <3vc2pe$7p3@wizard.uark.edu> References: <9520908.29232@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Status: O X-Status: Paul O Bartlett writes: >On Thu, 27 Jul 1995, Leigh HUNTER wrote: >| I need help in useing the program as it is new to me. >| >| Thankyou. >| e-mail: lahunt@ozemail.com.au > Try subscribing to the newsgroup comp.editors . I think >a long FAQ on vi is posted there twice a month. Or .... try 'man vi'. Slap your sysadmin if the man pages are not available ... :-) Peter Laws|"Time flies when you're slackin'" - Brian Reed n5uwy@ka5bml.#nwar.ar.usa.noam |geek From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 29 00:44:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13110; Sat, 29 Jul 95 00:44:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19984; Sat, 29 Jul 95 00:40:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19978; Sat, 29 Jul 95 00:40:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sc6UF-00038EC; Sat, 29 Jul 95 00:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bruce@rpl.regina.sk.ca (Bruce Welch) Subject: Re: Need a newsreader easier than PINE!!!???!! Date: 29 Jul 1995 00:58:13 -0600 Message-Id: <3vcm65$43m@athena.rpl.regina.sk.ca> References: <3vbtql$arc@csnews.cs.colorado.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3vbtql$arc@csnews.cs.colorado.edu>, Tom Christiansen wrote: >Actually, trn is the easiest: you never hit but space, and an 8-command >cheat sheet is more than adequate. I talked our "guru" into reconfiguring trn to use "pico -t" as the default editor for trn. Made using trn a breeze for people coming from pine. And, in turn, made my support job one heck of a lot easier. But I have asked him to set up an evaluation copy of slrn - gotta see if there can be anything easier than trn. :) -- this signature being renovated ... excuse the mess From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 29 06:39:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19867; Sat, 29 Jul 95 06:39:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19096; Sat, 29 Jul 95 06:36:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19090; Sat, 29 Jul 95 06:36:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scC1R-00038BC; Sat, 29 Jul 95 06:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Sergey A. Nikolaev" Subject: viewing postscript files in pine Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 19:38:07 +0300 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi! I set up xv as an image-viewer. My xv is capable of viewing postscript files. Still I can't view postscript file in attachment even if I put ghostview into the image-viewer line in pine configuration. If I try to view a postscript file in attachment it says [Don't know how to display attachment format Application/POSTSCRIPT]. How to fix it? Any help will be appreciated very much. +---------------------------------------------------------------+ ! Sergey A. Nikolaev nikolaev@pnpi.spb.ru ! ! Computer Systems Department phone: 007-812-71-385-40 ! ! at St. Petersburg's Nuclear fax: 007-812-71-462-56 ! ! Physics Institute ! +---------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 29 11:26:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25234; Sat, 29 Jul 95 11:26:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26473; Sat, 29 Jul 95 11:22:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26467; Sat, 29 Jul 95 11:22:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scGTN-00038BC; Sat, 29 Jul 95 11:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dan Kennedy Subject: adding headers Date: 29 Jul 1995 17:58:56 GMT Message-Id: <3vdst0$nco@shore.shore.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I moderate a newsgroup (alt.support.dwarfism), and the lack of responsiveness of Eudora and NewsWatcher with my PPP connection is making me long for the speed of Unix. My question: is it possible to add headers to newsgroup postings in pine? How? I need to be able to add an "Approved:" header so that I can repost stuff that comes into my e-mail box. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 29 13:06:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27391; Sat, 29 Jul 95 13:06:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24088; Sat, 29 Jul 95 13:02:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24082; Sat, 29 Jul 95 13:02:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scI0c-00038BC; Sat, 29 Jul 95 12:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eds@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca (Ed Stanton) Subject: HELP!!!!! Date: 29 Jul 1995 18:54:16 GMT Message-Id: <3ve04o$5gv@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca> Status: O X-Status: I was trying to delete messages out of my other mailbox using Lynx. I made a mistake and now when I try to enter my mailbox I can't enter and I get this: "Creating subdirectory"/homex/users/char/mail" where pine stores it's folders. Error creating subdirectory"/homex/users/char/mail disk quota exceeded" Can somebody tell me how to solve this problem? Thanks in advance. Ed Stanton From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 29 13:19:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27553; Sat, 29 Jul 95 13:19:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27781; Sat, 29 Jul 95 13:17:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27775; Sat, 29 Jul 95 13:17:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scIFu-00038BC; Sat, 29 Jul 95 13:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu (Christopher W. Curtis) Subject: Any info on spruce? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 19:31:41 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi, Some time ago there was talk about porting PINE to work with an X interface (codenamed, Spruce). I was wondering if anyone knew what the status was with this project. Regards, -- T | Christopher Curtis | Those who would sacrifice | O E | Sun Lab System Administrator | liberty for security | S A | Florida Institute of Technology | deserve neither. | / M | Melbourne, Florida N|N -Benjamin Franklin | 2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 29 13:35:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27804; Sat, 29 Jul 95 13:35:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24504; Sat, 29 Jul 95 13:32:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24498; Sat, 29 Jul 95 13:32:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scIVw-00038BC; Sat, 29 Jul 95 13:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tonyw8@aol.com (TonyW8) Subject: PC Pine with -create_lu command option Date: 29 Jul 1995 16:21:26 -0400 Message-Id: <3ve586$llh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: I want to run PC Pine with the -create_lu option to create the index for our global address book which is updates automatically each day. I use the following command line (which works in the Unix version): pine -create_lu addrbook fullname PC Pine 3.91 returns the error: addrbook: Can't create temporary file I don't have any idea where it is trying to create a temp file because I have write access everywhere. Is this a bug or am I missing something? BTW: On the side, what does the .lu file index exactly? Tony Wyland Messiah College wyland@messiah.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 29 13:49:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27992; Sat, 29 Jul 95 13:49:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28040; Sat, 29 Jul 95 13:47:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28034; Sat, 29 Jul 95 13:47:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scIhd-00038CC; Sat, 29 Jul 95 13:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vaca@viking.cris.com (Vaca) Subject: Reply questions Date: 29 Jul 1995 16:30:06 -0400 Message-Id: <3ve5oe$fu2@viking.cris.com> Status: O X-Status: Umm, when you include text in a reply it says "on (date) (person) wrote:" is there some way to chnge that, to read something else? pleae e-mail me as well as post. tia (\___/) |* *| "Neener" - Aaron Burr ~\_[ ]_/ ~\__________________________________ | ~ `\/' | | | VSM Images /~ | BARN -----> | Vaca@cris.com | ~~~~~~~~~~ _______|_____________|_______________| Tucson, AZ | HTTP://www.cris.com/~vaca/ | | | <------ | | *TKillian@falcon.cfsd.k12.az.us* ________|____________________________|_______| **Vaca@cow.net** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 29 19:12:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03485; Sat, 29 Jul 95 19:12:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28445; Sat, 29 Jul 95 19:07:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28439; Sat, 29 Jul 95 19:07:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scNib-00038BC; Sat, 29 Jul 95 19:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josephg@ios.com (Joseph Gutstein) Subject: Add Signature? Date: 30 Jul 1995 01:55:25 GMT Message-Id: <3veoqe$apg@news.ios.com> Status: O X-Status: How do I get pine to add a signature? (I've been trying to get the .pinerc file to recognize my signature file but I must be doing something wrong). Thanks, Joseph Gutstein, josephg@ios.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 29 22:19:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06405; Sat, 29 Jul 95 22:19:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03157; Sat, 29 Jul 95 22:17:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03151; Sat, 29 Jul 95 22:17:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scQdM-00038kC; Sat, 29 Jul 95 22:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: an255297@anon.penet.fi Message-Id: <050724Z30071995@anon.penet.fi> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 05:02:28 UTC Subject: Technical question on how to exclude countries from posting with pine and/or Status: O X-Status: How can I exclude a given country from a posting of an article. I sometimes use pine to post the news directly and sometimes I use Pine through a remailer such as news.demon.co.uk Also is this excluding reliable? How does it actually happen? Do I control it by excluding a country or including the countries I want it to go to? I would appreciate any help you could provide on this, through either above scenerio, to me by return email. Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi. If you reply to this message, your message WILL be *automatically* anonymized and you are allocated an anon id. Read the help file to prevent this. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin@anon.penet.fi. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 29 22:30:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06574; Sat, 29 Jul 95 22:30:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00981; Sat, 29 Jul 95 22:28:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00975; Sat, 29 Jul 95 22:28:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scQlI-00038CC; Sat, 29 Jul 95 22:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Need a newsreader easier than PINE!!!???!! Date: 30 Jul 1995 05:17:35 GMT Message-Id: <3vf4lf$2u1@grape.epix.net> References: <3v96vq$26o@nntp.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: Mike Brudenell (pmb1@mailer.york.ac.uk) wrote: : I have always found tin and rn very unintuitive to use. In particular : the way that articles "disappear" as soon as you have looked at them. In : fact the newsreader has simply hidden them because you have looked at : them. That's because you have it set up wrong. From TIN type M (shift+m) then change item 11 (show only unread) to 'off' ... or alternatively, if you want to leave it on as the default, at anytime type r to toggle the read-unread back to off. : I still find Tin tricky the odd time I use it. Sometimes "q" seems to : take me out a menu level, and sometimes it dumps me out of the program : (when I was expecting to go up a level instead). q takes you out a menu level, as does left arrow ... Q exits the program. : We're finding here that whilst our Technocrats seem to have a preference : for Tin (and slagging of Pine), many new users are finding Pine just : great for newsreading. I'm fairly sure that we have people now using : Usenet News because of Pine, but wouldn't be if they'd had the hurdle of : Yet Another Program to learn. ... and then some other stuff ... deleted ... : On 27 Jul 1995, Simeon Nevel wrote: : > Paul E. Jones (paulej@iglou.com) wrote: : > : I was told, however, that PINE is too hard for some computer users. : > : Some of the users will be people with absolutely no computer : > : experience. I really think that the newsgroup mechanism would work : > : wonderfully, but I need to find a "simpler" interface. : > I use the tin newsreader, I learned it just by sitting down and going to : > it...Simeon IMHO, TIN is easier for a beginner, or a non-unix savy user, but the TIN defaults of deleteing stuff you have read (acually it doesn't delete, it just doesn't show it) etc are not good, but any TIN user should go thru the M menu and reset the defaults to your preference for sorting threading etc etc etc, ... TIN can also do thing PINE can't like make .kill files etc. ... Don't forget that also in TIN you can press h for help at anytime and get a much more detailed list of available options than you see at the bottom of the screen ... Only my 895 cents worth ... G'Day. ... Hope this helps ... /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 29 22:40:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06759; Sat, 29 Jul 95 22:40:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03401; Sat, 29 Jul 95 22:38:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03395; Sat, 29 Jul 95 22:38:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scR10-00038EC; Sat, 29 Jul 95 22:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Add Signature? Date: 30 Jul 1995 05:23:03 GMT Message-Id: <3vf4vn$2u1@grape.epix.net> References: <3veoqe$apg@news.ios.com> Status: O X-Status: Joseph Gutstein (josephg@ios.com) wrote: : How do I get pine to add a signature? (I've been trying to get the : .pinerc file to recognize my signature file but I must be doing something : wrong). : Thanks, : Joseph Gutstein, josephg@ios.com your sig file should (MUST) be named .signature, not signature. The (.) is important. Alternatively, and IMHO a better way, name it sig and ^R it in when you want it. G'Day. /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 30 02:26:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10971; Sun, 30 Jul 95 02:26:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03947; Sun, 30 Jul 95 02:23:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03941; Sun, 30 Jul 95 02:23:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scUWO-00038BC; Sun, 30 Jul 95 02:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bruce@athena () Subject: Re: Need a newsreader easier than PINE!!!???!! Date: 30 Jul 1995 08:49:05 GMT Message-Id: <3vfh21$d3t@tomcat.sasknet.sk.ca> References: <3vbtql$arc@csnews.cs.colorado.edu> <3vcm65$43m@athena.rpl.regina.sk.ca> Status: O X-Status: In article <3vcm65$43m@athena.rpl.regina.sk.ca>, Bruce Welch wrote: : But I :have asked him to set up an evaluation copy of slrn - gotta see if there :can be anything easier than trn. :) Hoo boy. This post is with slrn set up to use pico -t as the editor. Been fiddling with a test group for what seems forever. This should work. It may even identify me as me. slrn feels a bit awkward after trn, but it is faaaaast. Not having to grab all of the threading info until asked probably lessens the load on the server. While I was at it, I set up 2 aliases - one for work in good old black and white, and one for home in living 16 colour. Hmmm. It also posts faster than trn. But changing the editor from vi to pico is what kept me from just tossing it. And learning the new key combinations will be great for avoiding repetitive motion syndrome :) Now, all I need to know is why the -create flag didn't work properly ... I'm sure there is more than one whole newsgroup on that server ... -- this signature being renovated ... excuse the mess From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 30 05:41:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14535; Sun, 30 Jul 95 05:41:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07646; Sun, 30 Jul 95 05:39:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07640; Sun, 30 Jul 95 05:39:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scXbR-00038BC; Sun, 30 Jul 95 05:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: peliwe@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (Pelisa Peliwe) Subject: Help: CAPI binaries for PINE Date: 28 Jul 95 12:40:46 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hi everyone, Anybody who can help me find some CAPI (Computer Aided Personal Interviewing) programs/binaries on the net that can be read using mail viewers like PINE, ELM, PEGASUS, etc. What I'm looking for precisely is something which has an AutoMailBack feature, ie when I send people a self-completion questionnaire by e-mail upon opening their mail one is prompted to fill in the questionnaire, complete with skip patterns and at the end prompted to type a character(s) which will activate AutoMailBack and the completed questionnaire is sent back to me. I'm not sure if anybody has been down this path before but I reckon there must be someone or people out there who might help. Positive suggestions, contributions from gurus and enthusiasts alike are most welcome. Thank you Peli From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 30 06:21:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14915; Sun, 30 Jul 95 06:21:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06705; Sun, 30 Jul 95 06:19:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06699; Sun, 30 Jul 95 06:19:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scYDN-00038BC; Sun, 30 Jul 95 06:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gweisz@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Gideon Weisz) Subject: how use external filter? Date: 30 Jul 1995 07:01:36 -0600 Message-Id: <3vfvrg$j9c@nyx10.cs.du.edu> Status: O X-Status: is there any way to use an external filter either from the compose screen or with mail that has been received (without first exporting the text)? this is relevant eg for reversing the direction of hebrew text i just wrote backwards, or reversing the direction of received hebrew text before printing it. of course, it can all be done offline or outside the pine program, but it would be very convenient to access filters from within pine. info about my parameters: one of the service providers i use might have an "old-growth" option that includes being able to use a pipe. i'm not sure, and i don't understand what choosing an "old-growth" option in .pinerc would do. all the unix pine programs that i use are three point something. thanks, gideon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 30 07:47:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15864; Sun, 30 Jul 95 07:47:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08638; Sun, 30 Jul 95 07:44:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08632; Sun, 30 Jul 95 07:44:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scZYA-00038BC; Sun, 30 Jul 95 07:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: s001eiy@discover.wright.edu (Eralp Yalcin) Subject: mass mailing Date: 30 Jul 1995 14:32:38 GMT Message-Id: <3vg566$8jt@alpha.wright.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi all, How can you send a mail to multiple users at one time without having everybody's address appear in the "To:" section? Thanks, -- Eralp Yalcin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 30 08:22:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16436; Sun, 30 Jul 95 08:22:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08028; Sun, 30 Jul 95 08:19:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08022; Sun, 30 Jul 95 08:19:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sca71-00038BC; Sun, 30 Jul 95 08:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: darklord@Access.Mountain.Net (Brian McClure) Subject: {Q} How to filter incomingmail to different directories Date: 30 Jul 1995 15:16:07 GMT Message-Id: <3vg7nn$o0j@news.mountain.net> Status: O X-Status: I am fairly new to Unix and Pine i need to know how to filter my incoming mail to different directories. Specific instructions please Please email any responces +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Brian McClure | "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, | | | for they are subtle and quick to anger." | | Amateur Radio Call: N8PQI | | | darklord@access.mountain.net |- Gildor Inglorian of the House of Finrod - | | | J.R.R. Tolkien | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCNAy/u6jcAAAEEAMnBxwWz+uKiU2MYh92crrga34NDrn7c/1Dk5GdQ9qsPEPDe MwUThnqhxMMjYSUqv6KXr+QgKQZ0t9H8FYmde7asGe6MsvvkyQ12F7Zhm7N/DNzN PVtVK7oNtHZanVb12b98lltCIYa6G3LbNdcHfXTQzbhIS8r4/5HJ2vNhGW0ZAAUR tEBCcmlhbiBNY0NsdXJlIHsgZGFya2xvcmRAYWNjZXNzLm1vdW50YWluLm5ldCAg b3IgbjhwcWlAYW9sLmNvbSB9 =ThfL -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 30 09:09:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17211; Sun, 30 Jul 95 09:09:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09318; Sun, 30 Jul 95 09:04:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09312; Sun, 30 Jul 95 09:04:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scalA-00038BC; Sun, 30 Jul 95 08:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Add Signature? Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 11:58:03 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3veoqe$apg@news.ios.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3veoqe$apg@news.ios.com> Status: O X-Status: On 30 Jul 1995, Joseph Gutstein wrote: | How do I get pine to add a signature? (I've been trying to get the | .pinerc file to recognize my signature file but I must be doing something | wrong). | Thanks, | Joseph Gutstein, josephg@ios.com IF you are on a Unix system (which it looks like you might be), and IF you have not specified otherwise in your configuration with the signature-file variable, then your signature file must be in your home directory and named exactly .signature with a mandatory leading period. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 30 21:24:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29227; Sun, 30 Jul 95 21:24:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16223; Sun, 30 Jul 95 21:21:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16217; Sun, 30 Jul 95 21:21:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scmGL-00038BC; Sun, 30 Jul 95 21:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: {Q} How to filter incomingmail to different directories Date: 31 Jul 1995 04:17:06 GMT Message-Id: <3vhlg2$far@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3vg7nn$o0j@news.mountain.net> Status: O X-Status: darklord@Access.Mountain.Net (Brian McClure) writes: >I am fairly new to Unix and Pine i need to know how to filter my incoming >mail to different directories. Specific instructions please Lots of info is at: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/mailbots.html Good Luck, Nancy -- Nancy McGough Primary Web: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ Infinite Ink Mirror Web: http://www.best.com/~ii/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 30 21:34:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29380; Sun, 30 Jul 95 21:34:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17423; Sun, 30 Jul 95 21:31:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17417; Sun, 30 Jul 95 21:31:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scmTt-00038BC; Sun, 30 Jul 95 21:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tcheney@lexis.pop.upenn.edu (Timothy P. Cheney) Subject: Re: how use external filter? Date: 31 Jul 1995 04:19:59 GMT Message-Id: <3vhllf$i18@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <3vfvrg$j9c@nyx10.cs.du.edu> Status: O X-Status: Gideon Weisz (gweisz@nyx10.cs.du.edu) wrote: : is there any way to use an external filter either from the compose : screen or with mail that has been received (without first exporting : the text)? this is relevant eg for reversing the direction of : hebrew text i just wrote backwards, or reversing the direction : of received hebrew text before printing it. : of course, it can all be done offline or outside the pine program, : but it would be very convenient to access filters from within : pine. : info about my parameters: : one of the service providers i use might have an "old-growth" : option that includes being able to use a pipe. i'm not sure, : and i don't understand what choosing an "old-growth" option : in .pinerc would do. : all the unix pine programs that i use are three point something. : thanks, gideon The pipe command will allow you to cause a received message to be used as standard input of a program like a filter. For composing messages, you can use an alternate editor. Look for one that will allow you to define a macro that accomplishes what you want to do. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | tcheney@pop.upenn.edu | | Timothy P. Cheney (215) 898-3197 | | Population Studies Center | | 239 McNeil/6298 | | University of Pennsylvania | | Philadelphia, PA 19104 | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 31 03:31:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06232; Mon, 31 Jul 95 03:31:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19959; Mon, 31 Jul 95 03:21:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19953; Mon, 31 Jul 95 03:21:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scrw9-00038BC; Mon, 31 Jul 95 03:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kraemer@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Marcus Kraemer) Subject: PINE and POP3 question Date: 29 Jul 1995 09:09:27 GMT Message-Id: <3vcts7$6dg@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Status: O X-Status: Hi! I am using Eudora for Windows 1.4.4 at home and PINE 3.91 on my mainframe account. When being at home I read my mail on the mainframe account using the POP3 protocol. How do I configure PINE that mail, read using Eudora is no longer listed as new? What I do not want is to delete the mail on the server (i.e. mainframe account). Thanks for your help, Marcus =========================================================================== Marcus Kraemer kraemer@uni-mainz.de Am blauen Garten 21 55246 Mainz-Kostheim Germany PGP 2.6 public key: finger kraemer@vzdmzy.zdv.uni-mainz.de phone: +49-6134-23537 http://www.uni-mainz.de/~kraemer/homepage.html =========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 31 07:19:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10730; Mon, 31 Jul 95 07:19:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25086; Mon, 31 Jul 95 07:16:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25080; Mon, 31 Jul 95 07:16:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scvc8-00038BC; Mon, 31 Jul 95 07:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fox Data Date: 31 Jul 1995 14:00:06 GMT Message-Id: Control: cancel <3vbgkd$k99@electra.cortland.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <3vbgkd$k99@electra.cortland.com> Status: O X-Status: EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19950731.02 for further details From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 31 07:30:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10923; Mon, 31 Jul 95 07:30:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25180; Mon, 31 Jul 95 07:20:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from AZTEC.LIB.UTK.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25174; Mon, 31 Jul 95 07:20:48 -0700 Received: by aztec.lib.utk.edu (5.x/2.8s-UTK) id AA08040; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 10:19:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 10:19:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Patrick To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: A couple of features Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: We've been moving people from our ageing VAX Allin1 system to UNIX with pine, and, although most are pleased with the relative ease of using pine, a couple of things have been noticed that allin1 does better. I would be interested in knowing if there's an easier way of doing these and, if not, I wonder if future versions of pine will provide an easier way. They are: 1 - Many, many addresses in the To: or Cc: fields of an allin1 messages are wrapped down to the bottom of the message. I know that one can use Bcc: to hide this list, but many here would prefer that the addresses appear somewhere, but not right at the top where they must be waded through. Doesn't bother me, but there are many... 2 - I receive a list of attachments, and I can save each attachment individually to a directory, but I cannot save attachments to a mail folder like I can other messages. In allin1 this is accomplished through the FT [file text] option, and a number of people have become used to it. Shouldn't "save to mail folder" be an option as well as "save to disk"? Just curious... -bob ~~~ bobpatrick@utk.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 31 07:30:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10978; Mon, 31 Jul 95 07:30:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22523; Mon, 31 Jul 95 07:26:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22517; Mon, 31 Jul 95 07:26:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scvlP-00038HC; Mon, 31 Jul 95 07:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: trafton@sealbark.itd.nrl.navy.mil (Greg Trafton) Subject: delete-backward word in pine 3.91? Date: 31 Jul 1995 10:07:20 -0400 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hi, all. sorry for the beginning question, but I've checked the documentation without much luck... I'd like to bind some keys in pine 3.91. specifically, I'd like to use control-w as delete-backward-word. how would I do that? many thanks! greg -- Greg Trafton, Ph.D (trafton@itd.nrl.navy.mil) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 31 10:15:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18345; Mon, 31 Jul 95 10:15:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29301; Mon, 31 Jul 95 10:11:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29295; Mon, 31 Jul 95 10:11:50 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id NAA01879; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 13:11:45 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id NAA02608; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 13:11:43 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA23469; Mon, 31 Jul 95 13:10:22 EDT Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 13:10:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Eralp Yalcin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mass mailing In-Reply-To: <3vg566$8jt@alpha.wright.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 30 Jul 1995, Eralp Yalcin wrote: > Hi all, > How can you send a mail to multiple users at one time without having > everybody's address appear in the "To:" section? > Thanks, > -- Put the multiple users in the bcc: (activate rich headers with ^R in the header portion of the compose screen) and put yourself on the To: line. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 31 10:29:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18914; Mon, 31 Jul 95 10:29:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29532; Mon, 31 Jul 95 10:21:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29526; Mon, 31 Jul 95 10:21:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0scyWO-00038BC; Mon, 31 Jul 95 10:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave Saville Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 12:19:46 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 28 Jul 1995, Brian Lane wrote: > Has anyone done a port of Pine to OS/2? I'd like to be able to read my > mail either locally or over a SLIP connection. > Contact willer@io.org (Steve Willer) for a beta David C. Saville Tel: +44 1293 556326 Second star to the right and straight on 'til morning. Capt. James T. Kirk (Quoting Peter Pan) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 31 11:54:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22321; Mon, 31 Jul 95 11:54:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01691; Mon, 31 Jul 95 11:49:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01685; Mon, 31 Jul 95 11:49:10 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13113; Mon, 31 Jul 95 11:49:07 -0700 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 11:49:02 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Dan Kennedy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: adding headers In-Reply-To: <3vdst0$nco@shore.shore.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Yes, you can add whatever headers you want in the Setup/Config screen under customized-hdrs... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 29 Jul 1995, Dan Kennedy wrote: > Date: 29 Jul 1995 17:58:56 GMT > From: Dan Kennedy > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: adding headers > > I moderate a newsgroup (alt.support.dwarfism), and the lack of > responsiveness of Eudora and NewsWatcher with my PPP connection is > making me long for the speed of Unix. > > My question: is it possible to add headers to newsgroup postings in > pine? How? I need to be able to add an "Approved:" header so that I can > repost stuff that comes into my e-mail box. > > Thanks. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 31 11:54:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22353; Mon, 31 Jul 95 11:54:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27925; Mon, 31 Jul 95 11:50:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27919; Mon, 31 Jul 95 11:50:34 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13158; Mon, 31 Jul 95 11:50:27 -0700 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 11:50:24 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Christopher W. Curtis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Any info on spruce? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The last info I heard was that the author had given up on ever having time to continue with it..... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 29 Jul 1995, Christopher W. Curtis wrote: > Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 19:31:41 GMT > From: Christopher W. Curtis > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Any info on spruce? > > Hi, > > Some time ago there was talk about porting PINE to work > with an X interface (codenamed, Spruce). I was wondering > if anyone knew what the status was with this project. > > Regards, > -- > T | Christopher Curtis | Those who would sacrifice | O > E | Sun Lab System Administrator | liberty for security | S > A | Florida Institute of Technology | deserve neither. | / > M | Melbourne, Florida N|N -Benjamin Franklin | 2 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 31 12:25:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23775; Mon, 31 Jul 95 12:25:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28713; Mon, 31 Jul 95 12:21:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28707; Mon, 31 Jul 95 12:21:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sd0No-00038BC; Mon, 31 Jul 95 12:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david@services.more.net (David Drum) Subject: Re: bounce-to-newsgroup Date: 31 Jul 1995 18:58:37 GMT Message-Id: <3vj94t$fgo@news.missouri.edu> References: <3v99b0$et8@news.missouri.edu> Status: O X-Status: Rick Troxel (rick@helix.nih.gov) wrote: : I must be misunderstanding something here. Shouldn't your news software : by taking care of moderated groups, so that posting normally (by pine or : any other means) will have the effect of reaching the moderators? My news software (tin and inn) do get the posts to the moderator's mail, but I need something for the moderators to get the mail approved and posted. Maybe you can suggest a program other than pine? David david@services.more.net -- "That man has a rare gift for obfuscation." -- ST:DS9 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 31 12:28:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23852; Mon, 31 Jul 95 12:28:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02726; Mon, 31 Jul 95 12:26:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02719; Mon, 31 Jul 95 12:26:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sd0TA-00038BC; Mon, 31 Jul 95 12:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pjh@mccc.edu (Pete HOLSBERG) Subject: Reply to??? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 17:48:21 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to set pine so that the "from" or "reply-to" domain is different from the actual domain? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 31 13:51:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27050; Mon, 31 Jul 95 13:51:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00474; Mon, 31 Jul 95 13:46:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00468; Mon, 31 Jul 95 13:46:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sd1ff-00038BC; Mon, 31 Jul 95 13:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alison33@netnam.org.vn (Alison Eng) Date: 31 Jul 1995 20:35:05 GMT Message-Id: Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Status: O X-Status: Spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 31 14:07:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27969; Mon, 31 Jul 95 14:07:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04799; Mon, 31 Jul 95 14:02:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04793; Mon, 31 Jul 95 14:01:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sd1vd-00038IC; Mon, 31 Jul 95 13:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nsheth@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu (Nischal Sheth) Subject: Sorting Mail using Procmail Message-Id: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 03:56:32 GMT Status: O X-Status: I am trying to sort mail into different folders using procmail. I have set up the .forward file and the .procmailrc correctly (I think). The .procmailrc looks like this: MAILDIR=$HOME/mail #Directory for storing procmail log and rc files PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log :0: * ^Subject:.*test IN.testing Even though I created the folder IN.testing in the "Incoming Message Folders", any mail with "test" in the subject goes into a folder called IN.testing in the Folder-Collection (mail/[]). As a result I cannot step thru all new mail using the TAB key. Any ideas as to what I am doing wrong? TIA, Nischal. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 31 18:06:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07251; Mon, 31 Jul 95 18:06:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05567; Mon, 31 Jul 95 18:02:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05561; Mon, 31 Jul 95 18:02:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sd5eq-00038BC; Mon, 31 Jul 95 17:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rross@lang1.langara.bc.ca (Ron Ross) Subject: Re: Sorting Mail using Procmail Date: 31 Jul 1995 23:29:06 GMT Message-Id: <3vjp02$e04@vcc7.vcc.bc.ca> References: Status: O X-Status: Nischal Sheth (nsheth@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu) wrote: : I am trying to sort mail into different folders using procmail. I have set : up the .forward file and the .procmailrc correctly (I think). The .procmailrc : looks like this: : MAILDIR=$HOME/mail : #Directory for storing procmail log and rc files : PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail : LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log : :0: : * ^Subject:.*test : IN.testing : Even though I created the folder IN.testing in the "Incoming Message Folders", : any mail with "test" in the subject goes into a folder called IN.testing in : the Folder-Collection (mail/[]). As a result I cannot step thru all new : mail using the TAB key. Any ideas as to what I am doing wrong? You need to create your incoming message folders in a different directory than your folder collection. Try something like: MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail -or- MAILDIR=$HOME/Incoming Then set that up in your incoming-folders variable in your .pinerc file. Good Luck... -- ___ Oo .:/ (___)o_o ,,///;, ,;/ //====--//(_) o:::::::;;/// Ron Ross \\ ^ >::::::::;;\\\ ''\\\\\'" ';\ I'd rather be diving !!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 31 19:37:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09407; Mon, 31 Jul 95 19:37:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11592; Mon, 31 Jul 95 19:32:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11586; Mon, 31 Jul 95 19:32:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sd73x-00038BC; Mon, 31 Jul 95 19:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Reply to??? Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 22:16:27 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 31 Jul 1995, Pete HOLSBERG wrote: > Is there a way to set pine so that the "from" or "reply-to" > domain is different from the actual domain? From the Main Menu, go into Setup and Config. There is a field user-domain which you can adjust for From: (in fact, I adjust mine slightly). Reply-To: is an optional added header (a screen or two further down) which you have to put in by hand, anyway, and you can make it read anything you want. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 31 20:29:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10421; Mon, 31 Jul 95 20:29:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12439; Mon, 31 Jul 95 20:27:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12433; Mon, 31 Jul 95 20:27:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sd7z3-00038EC; Mon, 31 Jul 95 20:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: BJ Adkins Subject: folder .lock file error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 23:47:23 GMT Status: O X-Status: Whenever I access one of my folders I get an error message that the folder.lock Error creating /mail/XXX.lock: no such file or directory... Is there a setting or something I need to check? -- BJ Adkins PACCOM Technician, University of Hawaii (808) 956-5335 adkins@Hawaii.Edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 31 20:30:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10459; Mon, 31 Jul 95 20:30:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07300; Mon, 31 Jul 95 20:27:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07294; Mon, 31 Jul 95 20:27:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sd7yt-00038CC; Mon, 31 Jul 95 20:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: BJ Adkins Subject: folder .lock file error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 23:47:02 GMT Status: O X-Status: Whenever I access one of my folders I get an error message that the folder.lock Error creating /mail/XXX.lock: no such file or directory... Is there a setting or something I need to check? -- BJ Adkins PACCOM Technician, University of Hawaii (808) 956-5335 adkins@Hawaii.Edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 31 20:30:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10491; Mon, 31 Jul 95 20:30:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12447; Mon, 31 Jul 95 20:27:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12441; Mon, 31 Jul 95 20:27:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sd7zN-00038IC; Mon, 31 Jul 95 20:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: BJ Adkins Subject: folder.lock problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 23:49:49 GMT Status: O X-Status: Whenever I open or close a folder I get the error message "Error creating /mail/XXX.lock: no such file or directory. Is there a setting I need to check somewhere? -- BJ Adkins PACCOM Technician, University of Hawaii (808) 956-5335 adkins@Hawaii.Edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 31 20:30:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10499; Mon, 31 Jul 95 20:30:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07308; Mon, 31 Jul 95 20:27:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07302; Mon, 31 Jul 95 20:27:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sd7zH-00038HC; Mon, 31 Jul 95 20:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: BJ Adkins Subject: folder.lock problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 23:49:36 GMT Status: O X-Status: Whenever I open or close a folder I get the error message "Error creating /mail/XXX.lock: no such file or directory. Is there a setting I need to check somewhere? -- BJ Adkins PACCOM Technician, University of Hawaii (808) 956-5335 adkins@Hawaii.Edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 31 22:01:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12203; Mon, 31 Jul 95 22:01:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08355; Mon, 31 Jul 95 21:57:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from coyote.rain.org by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08349; Mon, 31 Jul 95 21:57:45 -0700 Received: (from cookcibn@localhost) by coyote.rain.org (8.6.12/CSE) id VAA20653; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 21:57:16 -0700 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 21:57:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Cook To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug (ID 689UW): (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1928597665-287843060-807242898=:28251" Content-Id: Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1928597665-287843060-807242898=:28251 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Gary Cook ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 19:08:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Cook To: Pine Developers Subject: Bug (ID 689UW): I am interested in finding a way around my inability to add to a current address list, by use of the T command. When I "take" an address, I delete a previous address list. Thanking you in advance. Regards, Gary Cook --1928597665-287843060-807242898=:28251 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = cookcibn, full = Gary Cook home = /home/u3/users/cookcibn home_dir= /home/u3/users/cookcibn hostname= coyote.rain.org localdom= rain.org userdom= NULL maildom= rain.org cur_cntxt= mail/[] cur_fldr= sent-mail actual mbox= /home/u3/users/cookcibn/mail/sent-mail msgmap: tot=62, cur=2, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival actual inbox= /usr/spool/mail/cookcibn inbox map: tot=10, cur=10, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival term type=vt100, ttyname=/dev/ttypb, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Gary Cook user-id : cookcibn inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : expunge-without-confirm : quit-without-confirm : save-will-advance : select-without-confirm : show-selected-in-boldface : enable-mail-check-cue : preserve-start-stop-characters saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : Yes printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 95.7 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/u3/users/cookcibn/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Gary Cook feature-list : expunge-without-confirm : quit-without-confirm : save-will-advance : select-without-confirm : show-selected-in-boldface : enable-mail-check-cue : preserve-start-stop-characters use-only-domain-name : Yes last-time-prune-ques : 95.7 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance select-without-confirm show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys --1928597665-287843060-807242898=:28251-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 31 22:50:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13448; Mon, 31 Jul 95 22:50:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09054; Mon, 31 Jul 95 22:48:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09048; Mon, 31 Jul 95 22:48:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdAAY-00038CC; Mon, 31 Jul 95 22:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: folder.lock problem Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 22:13:52 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 31 Jul 1995, BJ Adkins wrote: > Whenever I open or close a folder I get the error > message "Error creating /mail/XXX.lock: no such file or > directory. Is there a setting I need to check > somewhere? What is the setting of the "folder-collections" in your .pinerc file? -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.